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Author
29 Oct 2006 4:36 PM
Tim.Marshall.KKI
I have a setup that I would like to try, but I am having some trouble.
I have two machines both running Windows XP. My main machine will be
for performance with striped disks, high end vid cards, etc. My second
machine is the fault tolerant server with RAID 5 array and all the
backup. What I would like to do is have all my critical data files be
stored on the "server" and just have all my program files on the main
machine. For the most part this is no problem but my local user
settings and information is pretty much forced, by my estimation, to be
stored on the local machine. I have tried to change my profile pointer
to the remote server but it just comes back and says the security
permissions are not valid and it will not work.

Has anyone else tried to do this utilizing just Windows XP or do I have
to go the server route and have roaming profiles? I just have an extra
license of XP laying around but do not have one for the Server 2000 or
2003.

Author
29 Oct 2006 5:21 PM
GTS
As you speculated, you would have to use a server version with roaming
profiles.  You can't otherwise store a local profile remotely.
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<Tim.Marshall.***@gmail.com> wrote in message
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>I have a setup that I would like to try, but I am having some trouble.
> I have two machines both running Windows XP. My main machine will be
> for performance with striped disks, high end vid cards, etc. My second
> machine is the fault tolerant server with RAID 5 array and all the
> backup. What I would like to do is have all my critical data files be
> stored on the "server" and just have all my program files on the main
> machine. For the most part this is no problem but my local user
> settings and information is pretty much forced, by my estimation, to be
> stored on the local machine. I have tried to change my profile pointer
> to the remote server but it just comes back and says the security
> permissions are not valid and it will not work.
>
> Has anyone else tried to do this utilizing just Windows XP or do I have
> to go the server route and have roaming profiles? I just have an extra
> license of XP laying around but do not have one for the Server 2000 or
> 2003.
>
Author
29 Oct 2006 9:00 PM
AJR
In addition to GTS's comments - you would not be able to access the
applications on the "main machine" from the "server". - "real" server
required

<Tim.Marshall.***@gmail.com> wrote in message
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>I have a setup that I would like to try, but I am having some trouble.
> I have two machines both running Windows XP. My main machine will be
> for performance with striped disks, high end vid cards, etc. My second
> machine is the fault tolerant server with RAID 5 array and all the
> backup. What I would like to do is have all my critical data files be
> stored on the "server" and just have all my program files on the main
> machine. For the most part this is no problem but my local user
> settings and information is pretty much forced, by my estimation, to be
> stored on the local machine. I have tried to change my profile pointer
> to the remote server but it just comes back and says the security
> permissions are not valid and it will not work.
>
> Has anyone else tried to do this utilizing just Windows XP or do I have
> to go the server route and have roaming profiles? I just have an extra
> license of XP laying around but do not have one for the Server 2000 or
> 2003.
>
Author
29 Oct 2006 9:59 PM
Ian
-Roaming profiles don't need to be on a server, they can be anywhere, even
on the same computer. Neither do they require a domain.

However, roaming profiles are not really intended to serve the purpose of
backup; for one thing not all data is included. The 'Local Settings' folder,
which often contains the user's email, is not included.

I'd suggest that the best approach for fixed computers with a single user is
NOT to store your data in the profile at all. Store it on network shares
instead.  Or on a separate partition  (or SUBST if you prefer) on the same
computer. It's relatively easy to reconfig most apps to look for data on
another (mapped) driveletter. 

The other option is to store the data locally, but have a script copy it to
the server at regular intervals. This is the arrangement we use for laptops.
It's less of a hassle than roaming profiles, plus it's saved the data on more
than one occasion when a HD has failed.

The other key point to realise is that if your data is valuable to you then
a single backup ain't enough. If a profile is copied at every logoff, then
you only have until the next logoff to realise that a key file has been
trashed. Once you've logged-off.. too late, both copies are now trashed! This
is why any serious backup policy will provide for more than one copy of the
data.
Author
30 Oct 2006 10:25 PM
AJR
Windows Server 2003 -Administrator's Pocket Consultant, page 244 , quote
"...Roaming profiles are server based and can be stored only on a server
running Windows 2000 or Windows Server 2003...." unquote.

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"Ian" <I**@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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>
> -Roaming profiles don't need to be on a server, they can be anywhere, even
> on the same computer. Neither do they require a domain.
>
> However, roaming profiles are not really intended to serve the purpose of
> backup; for one thing not all data is included. The 'Local Settings'
> folder,
> which often contains the user's email, is not included.
>
> I'd suggest that the best approach for fixed computers with a single user
> is
> NOT to store your data in the profile at all. Store it on network shares
> instead.  Or on a separate partition  (or SUBST if you prefer) on the same
> computer. It's relatively easy to reconfig most apps to look for data on
> another (mapped) driveletter.
>
> The other option is to store the data locally, but have a script copy it
> to
> the server at regular intervals. This is the arrangement we use for
> laptops.
> It's less of a hassle than roaming profiles, plus it's saved the data on
> more
> than one occasion when a HD has failed.
>
> The other key point to realise is that if your data is valuable to you
> then
> a single backup ain't enough. If a profile is copied at every logoff, then
> you only have until the next logoff to realise that a key file has been
> trashed. Once you've logged-off.. too late, both copies are now trashed!
> This
> is why any serious backup policy will provide for more than one copy of
> the
> data.
>
>