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Author
29 Oct 2006 7:48 PM
Craig G
I have an existing workgroup network with 3 NT machines, 2 win98 machines,
and one XP machine.  They all communicated together with a hub and lan modem
which was the DHCP.
Last week I changed to a DSL modem and a new switch.  The DHCP now comes
from the DSL and all the computers can see the internet via the new
switch/DSL.  However, now the XP machine can't see the other computers in the
workgroup, and the other machines see the XP machine, but can't view it.  I
tried using the XP CD to add more files to one of the win98 machines, but
that didn't help.  Since nothing else changed, I'm at a loss what to do next.
Any suggestions as I need to access the files and printers on the other
machines from my XP machine.

Author
29 Oct 2006 8:38 PM
Ian
This is most likely because the IPs have changed, confusing the browser
service. 

Try issuing NBTSTAT -R  on the computers that can't see others.

(unusually, this command is case-sensitive, it must be -R)
Author
29 Oct 2006 11:26 PM
Chuck
On Sun, 29 Oct 2006 11:48:02 -0800, Craig G <Craig G@discussions.microsoft.com>
wrote:

>I have an existing workgroup network with 3 NT machines, 2 win98 machines,
>and one XP machine.  They all communicated together with a hub and lan modem
>which was the DHCP.
>Last week I changed to a DSL modem and a new switch.  The DHCP now comes
>from the DSL and all the computers can see the internet via the new
>switch/DSL.  However, now the XP machine can't see the other computers in the
>workgroup, and the other machines see the XP machine, but can't view it.  I
>tried using the XP CD to add more files to one of the win98 machines, but
>that didn't help.  Since nothing else changed, I'm at a loss what to do next.
> Any suggestions as I need to access the files and printers on the other
>machines from my XP machine.

Craig,

This problem will frequently be caused by a misconfigured or overlooked personal
firewall, or other security component. There are several other possibilities
too, and any might be the cause of your problem. Read this article with an open
mind.
<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/10/irregularities-in-workgroup-visibility.html>
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/10/irregularities-in-workgroup-visibility.html

If you have Windows 98 and Windows XP on the LAN together, read about the
possible browser conflict, which your problem is a classical example.
<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/windows-9x-9598me-and-browser.html>
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/windows-9x-9598me-and-browser.html

For more direct help, provide "browstat status", "browstat listwfw (workgroup)"
(substitute your workgroup name) and "ipconfig /all", from each Windows XP
computer, and "ipconfig /all" from each Windows 98 computer, so we can diagnose
the problem.  Read this article, and linked articles, and follow instructions
precisely (download browstat!):
<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/troubleshooting-network-neighborhood.html#AskingForHelp>
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/troubleshooting-network-neighborhood.html#AskingForHelp

--
Cheers,
Chuck, MS-MVP [Windows - Networking]
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/
Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience.
My        email         is          AT         DOT
   actual       address    pchuck       mvps        org.
Author
30 Oct 2006 8:47 PM
Craig G
Chuck,

Thanks so much, my firewall was misconfigured for the new IP's that the new
DSL modem assigned.  I'm back in business thanks to you!

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"Chuck" wrote:

> On Sun, 29 Oct 2006 11:48:02 -0800, Craig G <Craig G@discussions.microsoft.com>
> wrote:
>
> >I have an existing workgroup network with 3 NT machines, 2 win98 machines,
> >and one XP machine.  They all communicated together with a hub and lan modem
> >which was the DHCP.
> >Last week I changed to a DSL modem and a new switch.  The DHCP now comes
> >from the DSL and all the computers can see the internet via the new
> >switch/DSL.  However, now the XP machine can't see the other computers in the
> >workgroup, and the other machines see the XP machine, but can't view it.  I
> >tried using the XP CD to add more files to one of the win98 machines, but
> >that didn't help.  Since nothing else changed, I'm at a loss what to do next.
> > Any suggestions as I need to access the files and printers on the other
> >machines from my XP machine.
>
> Craig,
>
> This problem will frequently be caused by a misconfigured or overlooked personal
> firewall, or other security component. There are several other possibilities
> too, and any might be the cause of your problem. Read this article with an open
> mind.
> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/10/irregularities-in-workgroup-visibility.html>
> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/10/irregularities-in-workgroup-visibility.html
>
> If you have Windows 98 and Windows XP on the LAN together, read about the
> possible browser conflict, which your problem is a classical example.
> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/windows-9x-9598me-and-browser.html>
> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/windows-9x-9598me-and-browser.html
>
> For more direct help, provide "browstat status", "browstat listwfw (workgroup)"
> (substitute your workgroup name) and "ipconfig /all", from each Windows XP
> computer, and "ipconfig /all" from each Windows 98 computer, so we can diagnose
> the problem.  Read this article, and linked articles, and follow instructions
> precisely (download browstat!):
> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/troubleshooting-network-neighborhood.html#AskingForHelp>
> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/troubleshooting-network-neighborhood.html#AskingForHelp
>
> --
> Cheers,
> Chuck, MS-MVP [Windows - Networking]
> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/
> Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience.
> My        email         is          AT         DOT
>    actual       address    pchuck       mvps        org.
>
Author
30 Oct 2006 8:59 PM
Chuck
On Mon, 30 Oct 2006 12:47:03 -0800, Craig G <Cra***@discussions.microsoft.com>
wrote:

Kewl.  Thanks for the feedback!

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>Chuck,
>
>Thanks so much, my firewall was misconfigured for the new IP's that the new
>DSL modem assigned.  I'm back in business thanks to you!
>
>"Chuck" wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 29 Oct 2006 11:48:02 -0800, Craig G <Craig G@discussions.microsoft.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >I have an existing workgroup network with 3 NT machines, 2 win98 machines,
>> >and one XP machine.  They all communicated together with a hub and lan modem
>> >which was the DHCP.
>> >Last week I changed to a DSL modem and a new switch.  The DHCP now comes
>> >from the DSL and all the computers can see the internet via the new
>> >switch/DSL.  However, now the XP machine can't see the other computers in the
>> >workgroup, and the other machines see the XP machine, but can't view it.  I
>> >tried using the XP CD to add more files to one of the win98 machines, but
>> >that didn't help.  Since nothing else changed, I'm at a loss what to do next.
>> > Any suggestions as I need to access the files and printers on the other
>> >machines from my XP machine.
>>
>> Craig,
>>
>> This problem will frequently be caused by a misconfigured or overlooked personal
>> firewall, or other security component. There are several other possibilities
>> too, and any might be the cause of your problem. Read this article with an open
>> mind.
>> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/10/irregularities-in-workgroup-visibility.html>
>> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/10/irregularities-in-workgroup-visibility.html
>>
>> If you have Windows 98 and Windows XP on the LAN together, read about the
>> possible browser conflict, which your problem is a classical example.
>> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/windows-9x-9598me-and-browser.html>
>> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/windows-9x-9598me-and-browser.html
>>
>> For more direct help, provide "browstat status", "browstat listwfw (workgroup)"
>> (substitute your workgroup name) and "ipconfig /all", from each Windows XP
>> computer, and "ipconfig /all" from each Windows 98 computer, so we can diagnose
>> the problem.  Read this article, and linked articles, and follow instructions
>> precisely (download browstat!):
>> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/troubleshooting-network-neighborhood.html#AskingForHelp>
>> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/troubleshooting-network-neighborhood.html#AskingForHelp
>>
>> --
>> Cheers,
>> Chuck, MS-MVP [Windows - Networking]
>> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/
>> Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience.
>> My        email         is          AT         DOT
>>    actual       address    pchuck       mvps        org.
>>


--
Cheers,
Chuck, MS-MVP [Windows - Networking]
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/
Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience.
My        email         is          AT         DOT
   actual       address    pchuck       mvps        org.