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Mixed Networks ProblemI have two Windows XP Pro SP2 PC's connected to each other via a crossover
ethernet cable. Each originally had only dial-up access to the Internet. Recently purchased high speed access via cable, but had to use a wireless (Linksys) router to get the access to these two PC's. Each PC now has a wireless antenna and can see the wireless router; each can connect to the internet as long as it's 'wired' ethernet connection is disabled, neither can connect to the internet if it is enabled. Keeping the wired network is important for some legacy applications I have from work, some processing jobs run for an hour or so. Is there anything I can do to keep both, and use the wireless only for Internet without shutting down the wired connections? Thanks in advance for any help you can give. In article <2A137618-BA09-4A92-A031-79BCE758A***@microsoft.com>, M
Craig <MCr***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote: >I have two Windows XP Pro SP2 PC's connected to each other via a crossover The problem could be one or both of these:>ethernet cable. Each originally had only dial-up access to the Internet. >Recently purchased high speed access via cable, but had to use a wireless >(Linksys) router to get the access to these two PC's. Each PC now has a >wireless antenna and can see the wireless router; each can connect to the >internet as long as it's 'wired' ethernet connection is disabled, neither can >connect to the internet if it is enabled. Keeping the wired network is >important for some legacy applications I have from work, some processing jobs >run for an hour or so. Is there anything I can do to keep both, and use the >wireless only for Internet without shutting down the wired connections? >Thanks in advance for any help you can give. 1. The wired and wireless networks use the same subnet (TCP/IP address range). For the new setup to work, wired and wireless must use different subnets. 2. The wired connection has a default gateway specified. Internet access uses the default gateway, so wired could be overriding wireless for that. Please post a news group reply with a copy of the TCP/IP route table, which will clarify the situation. To write the route table to a file, open a command prompt window (Start > Run > cmd) and type this command: route print >route.txt Then, copy and paste the contents of the "route.txt" file into the news group message. -- Best Wishes, Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking) Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups. Microsoft Most Valuable Professional Program http://mvp.support.microsoft.com Below is the route table when both networks are 'engaged'. I tried changing
the default gateway (only) on the wired connection to that of the wireless, but still no connection. =========================================================================== Interface List 0x1 ........................... MS TCP Loopback interface 0x10003 ...00 12 0e 24 19 65 ...... (ZD1211)IEEE 802.11b+g USB Adapter - Packet Scheduler Miniport 0x40004 ...00 07 e9 d6 28 4f ...... Intel(R) PRO/100 VE Network Connection - Packet Scheduler Miniport =========================================================================== =========================================================================== Active Routes: Network Destination Netmask Gateway Interface Metric 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 192.168.1.1 192.168.1.120 25 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 199.129.209.1 199.129.209.208 20 127.0.0.0 255.0.0.0 127.0.0.1 127.0.0.1 1 192.168.1.0 255.255.255.0 192.168.1.120 192.168.1.120 25 192.168.1.120 255.255.255.255 127.0.0.1 127.0.0.1 25 192.168.1.255 255.255.255.255 192.168.1.120 192.168.1.120 25 199.129.209.0 255.255.255.0 199.129.209.208 199.129.209.208 20 199.129.209.208 255.255.255.255 127.0.0.1 127.0.0.1 20 199.129.209.255 255.255.255.255 199.129.209.208 199.129.209.208 20 224.0.0.0 240.0.0.0 192.168.1.120 192.168.1.120 25 224.0.0.0 240.0.0.0 199.129.209.208 199.129.209.208 20 255.255.255.255 255.255.255.255 192.168.1.120 192.168.1.120 1 255.255.255.255 255.255.255.255 199.129.209.208 199.129.209.208 1 Default Gateway: 199.129.209.1 =========================================================================== Persistent Routes: None In article <93B3B54C-6025-49B9-9D17-7D2A342F1***@microsoft.com>, M
Craig <MCr***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote: Show quoteHide quote >>>I have two Windows XP Pro SP2 PC's connected to each other via a crossover Thanks for posting the route table. It shows two default routes>>>ethernet cable. Each originally had only dial-up access to the Internet. >>>Recently purchased high speed access via cable, but had to use a wireless >>>(Linksys) router to get the access to these two PC's. Each PC now has a >>>wireless antenna and can see the wireless router; each can connect to the >>>internet as long as it's 'wired' ethernet connection is disabled, neither can >>>connect to the internet if it is enabled. Keeping the wired network is >>>important for some legacy applications I have from work, some processing jobs >>>run for an hour or so. Is there anything I can do to keep both, and use the >>>wireless only for Internet without shutting down the wired connections? >>>Thanks in advance for any help you can give. >> >>The problem could be one or both of these: >> >>1. The wired and wireless networks use the same subnet (TCP/IP address >>range). For the new setup to work, wired and wireless must use >>different subnets. >> >>2. The wired connection has a default gateway specified. Internet >>access uses the default gateway, so wired could be overriding wireless >>for that. >> >>Please post a news group reply with a copy of the TCP/IP route table, >>which will clarify the situation. To write the route table to a file, >>open a command prompt window (Start > Run > cmd) and type this >>command: >> >> route print >route.txt >> >>Then, copy and paste the contents of the "route.txt" file into the >>news group message. > >Below is the route table when both networks are 'engaged'. I tried changing >the default gateway (only) on the wired connection to that of the wireless, >but still no connection. > >=========================================================================== >Interface List >0x1 ........................... MS TCP Loopback interface >0x10003 ...00 12 0e 24 19 65 ...... (ZD1211)IEEE 802.11b+g USB Adapter - >Packet Scheduler Miniport >0x40004 ...00 07 e9 d6 28 4f ...... Intel(R) PRO/100 VE Network Connection - >Packet Scheduler Miniport >=========================================================================== >=========================================================================== >Active Routes: >Network Destination Netmask Gateway Interface Metric > 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 192.168.1.1 192.168.1.120 25 > 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 199.129.209.1 199.129.209.208 20 > 127.0.0.0 255.0.0.0 127.0.0.1 127.0.0.1 1 > 192.168.1.0 255.255.255.0 192.168.1.120 192.168.1.120 25 > 192.168.1.120 255.255.255.255 127.0.0.1 127.0.0.1 25 > 192.168.1.255 255.255.255.255 192.168.1.120 192.168.1.120 25 > 199.129.209.0 255.255.255.0 199.129.209.208 199.129.209.208 20 > 199.129.209.208 255.255.255.255 127.0.0.1 127.0.0.1 20 > 199.129.209.255 255.255.255.255 199.129.209.208 199.129.209.208 20 > 224.0.0.0 240.0.0.0 192.168.1.120 192.168.1.120 25 > 224.0.0.0 240.0.0.0 199.129.209.208 199.129.209.208 20 > 255.255.255.255 255.255.255.255 192.168.1.120 192.168.1.120 1 > 255.255.255.255 255.255.255.255 199.129.209.208 199.129.209.208 1 >Default Gateway: 199.129.209.1 >=========================================================================== >Persistent Routes: > None (lines starting with 0.0.0.0). The first one uses the wireless connection to the Linksys router. The second one uses the wired connection. With more than one default route, Windows uses the one with the lowest metric value (last number in each line). Since wireless=25 and wired=20, wired overrides wireless when both are active. To make wireless override wired, specify a metric value of less than 20 for the wireless connection: 1. Open the Network Connections folder. 2. Right-click the wireless connection. 3. Click Properties | Internet Protocol (TCP/IP). 4. Click Properties | Advanced. 5. Un-check "Automatic metric". 6. Enter a number between 1 and 19 for the "Interface metric". It's possible that some of the legacy applications from work will stop working after making that change, because the default gateway no will no longer point to the work network. If that happens, you'll have to create static route(s) to one or more subnets on the work network. -- Best Wishes, Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking) Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups. Microsoft Most Valuable Professional Program http://mvp.support.microsoft.com Problem Solved! Thanks a bunch, Steve. I changed the Metrics as described,
then ran batch jobs (the legacy ap) on each PC with no problems. Also can connect to the Internet on both now, at the same time. In article <BD91F7CD-4599-40FF-A60D-F747A2D05***@microsoft.com>, M
Craig <MCr***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote: Show quoteHide quote >>>[snip] You're welcome!>>>Below is the route table when both networks are 'engaged'. I tried changing >>>the default gateway (only) on the wired connection to that of the wireless, >>>but still no connection. >>> >>>=========================================================================== >>>Interface List >>>0x1 ........................... MS TCP Loopback interface >>>0x10003 ...00 12 0e 24 19 65 ...... (ZD1211)IEEE 802.11b+g USB Adapter - >>>Packet Scheduler Miniport >>>0x40004 ...00 07 e9 d6 28 4f ...... Intel(R) PRO/100 VE Network Connection - >>>Packet Scheduler Miniport >>>=========================================================================== >>>=========================================================================== >>>Active Routes: >>>Network Destination Netmask Gateway Interface Metric >>> 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 192.168.1.1 192.168.1.120 25 >>> 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 199.129.209.1 199.129.209.208 20 >>> 127.0.0.0 255.0.0.0 127.0.0.1 127.0.0.1 1 >>> 192.168.1.0 255.255.255.0 192.168.1.120 192.168.1.120 25 >>> 192.168.1.120 255.255.255.255 127.0.0.1 127.0.0.1 25 >>> 192.168.1.255 255.255.255.255 192.168.1.120 192.168.1.120 25 >>> 199.129.209.0 255.255.255.0 199.129.209.208 199.129.209.208 20 >>> 199.129.209.208 255.255.255.255 127.0.0.1 127.0.0.1 20 >>> 199.129.209.255 255.255.255.255 199.129.209.208 199.129.209.208 20 >>> 224.0.0.0 240.0.0.0 192.168.1.120 192.168.1.120 25 >>> 224.0.0.0 240.0.0.0 199.129.209.208 199.129.209.208 20 >>> 255.255.255.255 255.255.255.255 192.168.1.120 192.168.1.120 1 >>> 255.255.255.255 255.255.255.255 199.129.209.208 199.129.209.208 1 >>>Default Gateway: 199.129.209.1 >>>=========================================================================== >>>Persistent Routes: >>> None >> >>Thanks for posting the route table. It shows two default routes >>(lines starting with 0.0.0.0). The first one uses the wireless >>connection to the Linksys router. The second one uses the wired >>connection. With more than one default route, Windows uses the one >>with the lowest metric value (last number in each line). Since >>wireless=25 and wired=20, wired overrides wireless when both are >>active. >> >>To make wireless override wired, specify a metric value of less than >>20 for the wireless connection: >> >>1. Open the Network Connections folder. >>2. Right-click the wireless connection. >>3. Click Properties | Internet Protocol (TCP/IP). >>4. Click Properties | Advanced. >>5. Un-check "Automatic metric". >>6. Enter a number between 1 and 19 for the "Interface metric". >> >>It's possible that some of the legacy applications from work will stop >>working after making that change, because the default gateway no will >>no longer point to the work network. If that happens, you'll have to >>create static route(s) to one or more subnets on the work network. > >Problem Solved! Thanks a bunch, Steve. I changed the Metrics as described, >then ran batch jobs (the legacy ap) on each PC with no problems. Also can >connect to the Internet on both now, at the same time. -- Best Wishes, Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking) Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups. Microsoft Most Valuable Professional Program http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
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