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Author
31 Oct 2006 5:06 PM
pelican
I'm tring to add a Samsung ML2251-NP printer to a wireless network. It
has an ethernet port, and we're buying a wireless router (which one?),
so that our small office of six can all access it wirelessly.
We're clueless how to set this up. Any kind souls want to set us on the
path to setting this up?

Suz

Author
31 Oct 2006 5:57 PM
Malke
pelican wrote:

> I'm tring to add a Samsung ML2251-NP printer to a wireless network. It
> has an ethernet port, and we're buying a wireless router (which one?),
> so that our small office of six can all access it wirelessly.
> We're clueless how to set this up. Any kind souls want to set us on
> the path to setting this up?

After you purchase the wireless router, attach the printer to one of the
ports. Assign it a static IP address per Samsung's instructions.
Install it per Samsung's instructions on each machine. If you have lost
the manual that came with the printer - or don't have one - go to
Samsung's tech support website and they will have the manual there,
probably in .pdf format.

Malke
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Elephant Boy Computers
www.elephantboycomputers.com
"Don't Panic!"
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Author
31 Oct 2006 7:56 PM
pelican
Actually, the printer status page lists it's IP address. I'll give it a
go, and let you know how it works out. I tried this using a Netgear
WGT64v2  - with the following instructions:

1) ignore the Samsung software.
2) Add local printer, but don't search for plugnplay
3) when prompted to enter the port type, pick "TCP/IP port",
4) hookup the printer to the network and determine its IP address using
the status print page,
5) connect to the printer's IP address in a web browser, and assign the
printer a static ip under the appropriate tabs,
6) enter the Ip address you assigned to the printer in the add printer
wizard dialog box, and select a generic network card option,
7) add the printer driver from the CD. That should be it!

But this isn't working for us. Even though the status page indicates
the IP address is 192.168.0.10, if I type that into IE browser, it
doesn't find it. Nor does printing a test page work.

Suz
Author
31 Oct 2006 8:37 PM
Malke
pelican wrote:

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> Actually, the printer status page lists it's IP address. I'll give it
> a go, and let you know how it works out. I tried this using a Netgear
> WGT64v2  - with the following instructions:
>
> 1) ignore the Samsung software.
> 2) Add local printer, but don't search for plugnplay
> 3) when prompted to enter the port type, pick "TCP/IP port",
> 4) hookup the printer to the network and determine its IP address
> using the status print page,
> 5) connect to the printer's IP address in a web browser, and assign
> the printer a static ip under the appropriate tabs,
> 6) enter the Ip address you assigned to the printer in the add printer
> wizard dialog box, and select a generic network card option,
> 7) add the printer driver from the CD. That should be it!
>
> But this isn't working for us. Even though the status page indicates
> the IP address is 192.168.0.10, if I type that into IE browser, it
> doesn't find it. Nor does printing a test page work.

You're doing far more work than you need to. Since the printer already
has an IP address - and you should assign a static one, not allow it to
be assigned by DHCP - make a note of it.

On each computer that will use the printer, install the Samsung drivers.
After the driver install is finished, go to the Printer applet in
Control Panel. Right-click on the Samsung printer and then choose
"properties". Then click on the Ports tab and pick New Port. You want a
standard TCP/IP port. The TCP/IP dialog should now open. Put the
printer's IP address in and follow the wizard. Choose the Samsung in
the drivers list. After the TCP/IP dialog/wizard is finished, close any
open boxes and you will be able to print to the Samsung.

Please note that the wireless part of the router has nothing to do with
printer sharing. Whether your computers connect to the lan wired or
wirelessly is irrelevant; you will install the printer the same way.
The point of a printer that has a wireless network adapter is so that
the printer doesn't have to sit next to the router and be connected to
it with an ethernet cable.

Malke
--
Elephant Boy Computers
www.elephantboycomputers.com
"Don't Panic!"
MS-MVP Windows - Shell/User
Author
31 Oct 2006 8:56 PM
Jack (MVP-Networking).
Hi
I am Not familiar with the Samsung per se.
However some printers that are Network capable would not install correctly
if you ignore their software.
I.e., if you do not go through the installation motions, you might have
diffeliculties in configuring the printer and its Network capacity
correctly.  Some Network printers depends on more than the pure driver to
print correctly through the Network.
Jack (MVP-Networking).

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"pelican" <pelicanme***@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> I'm tring to add a Samsung ML2251-NP printer to a wireless network. It
> has an ethernet port, and we're buying a wireless router (which one?),
> so that our small office of six can all access it wirelessly.
> We're clueless how to set this up. Any kind souls want to set us on the
> path to setting this up?
>
> Suz
>
Author
2 Nov 2006 3:12 AM
pelican
Well, I've done as described but it's not working. I hope by just
adding the IP address in the printer properties, it's indeed static
(and not DHCP). Any suggestions?

Suz
Jack (MVP-Networking). wrote:
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> Hi
> I am Not familiar with the Samsung per se.
> However some printers that are Network capable would not install correctly
> if you ignore their software.
> I.e., if you do not go through the installation motions, you might have
> diffeliculties in configuring the printer and its Network capacity
> correctly.  Some Network printers depends on more than the pure driver to
> print correctly through the Network.
> Jack (MVP-Networking).
>
> "pelican" <pelicanme***@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1162314381.388443.178840@f16g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
> > I'm tring to add a Samsung ML2251-NP printer to a wireless network. It
> > has an ethernet port, and we're buying a wireless router (which one?),
> > so that our small office of six can all access it wirelessly.
> > We're clueless how to set this up. Any kind souls want to set us on the
> > path to setting this up?
> >
> > Suz
> >
Author
2 Nov 2006 12:37 PM
Malke
pelican wrote:

> Well, I've done as described but it's not working. I hope by just
> adding the IP address in the printer properties, it's indeed static
> (and not DHCP). Any suggestions?

You are doing something wrong, but because I can't see your computers
and what you're doing there is no way to answer you. It is very easy to
set up most Samsung printers for network use - I set up 150 laptops for
a school laptop program this way. You might want to look at Samsung's
support website (if they have one) for more specific instructions.

At this point, your best course of action is to have a professional come
on-site and set you up. This will not be someone from your local
BigStoreUSA.

Malke
--
Elephant Boy Computers
www.elephantboycomputers.com
"Don't Panic!"
MS-MVP Windows - Shell/User
Author
2 Nov 2006 1:45 PM
pelican
Ok, getting close. I was able to print, but only if I select the
Netgear wireless router (in the XP wireless connection app) which is
the router connected to the printer.
When I select "connect" to the printer's wireless router, I can no
longer get online - we lose the connection to the SBC wireless router.
Hmmm?

Suz

Malke wrote:
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> pelican wrote:
>
> > Well, I've done as described but it's not working. I hope by just
> > adding the IP address in the printer properties, it's indeed static
> > (and not DHCP). Any suggestions?
>
> You are doing something wrong, but because I can't see your computers
> and what you're doing there is no way to answer you. It is very easy to
> set up most Samsung printers for network use - I set up 150 laptops for
> a school laptop program this way. You might want to look at Samsung's
> support website (if they have one) for more specific instructions.
>
> At this point, your best course of action is to have a professional come
> on-site and set you up. This will not be someone from your local
> BigStoreUSA.
>
> Malke
> --
> Elephant Boy Computers
> www.elephantboycomputers.com
> "Don't Panic!"
> MS-MVP Windows - Shell/User
Author
2 Nov 2006 2:01 PM
Malke
pelican wrote:

> Ok, getting close. I was able to print, but only if I select the
> Netgear wireless router (in the XP wireless connection app) which is
> the router connected to the printer.
> When I select "connect" to the printer's wireless router, I can no
> longer get online - we lose the connection to the SBC wireless router.
> Hmmm?

Sorry, your description of your setup is just too hard to visualize. I
understand that you'd prefer to solve this without spending any money,
but someone else will have to give you the answers. I do think that in
cases like yours the most efficient way to solve problems is to have
someone on-site who can see what is going on and do hands-on work.

Perhaps someone else reading this thread will have your answer, but I
don't. I'm sorry I was unable to help you.

Malke
--
Elephant Boy Computers
www.elephantboycomputers.com
"Don't Panic!"
MS-MVP Windows - Shell/User
Author
2 Nov 2006 2:29 PM
pelican
At this point, it's not a matter of money but pride.
Please don't give up on me yet.
Here's a better description:
http://www.pelicandevelopers.com/wireless.gif

1. Our Samsung printer (which has a network connection static IP) is
connected to the Netgear wirless router.

2. Our wireless internet connection is on the 2wire469

3. When we select "connect" to either one we get,, connected,  but lose
the other connection, and cannot get simultaneous internet and
printing.

Suz

Malke wrote:
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> pelican wrote:
>
> > Ok, getting close. I was able to print, but only if I select the
> > Netgear wireless router (in the XP wireless connection app) which is
> > the router connected to the printer.
> > When I select "connect" to the printer's wireless router, I can no
> > longer get online - we lose the connection to the SBC wireless router.
> > Hmmm?
>
> Sorry, your description of your setup is just too hard to visualize. I
> understand that you'd prefer to solve this without spending any money,
> but someone else will have to give you the answers. I do think that in
> cases like yours the most efficient way to solve problems is to have
> someone on-site who can see what is going on and do hands-on work.
>
> Perhaps someone else reading this thread will have your answer, but I
> don't. I'm sorry I was unable to help you.
>
> Malke
> --
> Elephant Boy Computers
> www.elephantboycomputers.com
> "Don't Panic!"
> MS-MVP Windows - Shell/User
Author
2 Nov 2006 5:21 PM
Lem
pelican wrote:
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> At this point, it's not a matter of money but pride.
> Please don't give up on me yet.
> Here's a better description:
> http://www.pelicandevelopers.com/wireless.gif
>
> 1. Our Samsung printer (which has a network connection static IP) is
> connected to the Netgear wirless router.
>
> 2. Our wireless internet connection is on the 2wire469
>
> 3. When we select "connect" to either one we get,, connected,  but lose
> the other connection, and cannot get simultaneous internet and
> printing.
>
> Suz
>
> Malke wrote:
>> pelican wrote:
>>
>>> Ok, getting close. I was able to print, but only if I select the
>>> Netgear wireless router (in the XP wireless connection app) which is
>>> the router connected to the printer.
>>> When I select "connect" to the printer's wireless router, I can no
>>> longer get online - we lose the connection to the SBC wireless router.
>>> Hmmm?
>> Sorry, your description of your setup is just too hard to visualize. I
>> understand that you'd prefer to solve this without spending any money,
>> but someone else will have to give you the answers. I do think that in
>> cases like yours the most efficient way to solve problems is to have
>> someone on-site who can see what is going on and do hands-on work.
>>
>> Perhaps someone else reading this thread will have your answer, but I
>> don't. I'm sorry I was unable to help you.
>>
>> Malke
>> --
>> Elephant Boy Computers
>> www.elephantboycomputers.com
>> "Don't Panic!"
>> MS-MVP Windows - Shell/User
>
You have too many routers.  I think you bought the wrong product, but
I'm not sure, because I'm unable to find anything called the "WGT64" on
Netgear's U.S. site.  There is a product called the "WGT624" which is a
wireless router.  The only Netgear wireless print server is the WGPS606".

The screenshot you linked to appears to confirm this.  It shows two
separate wireless networks (at least the two entries marked with red are
two separate networks).

Although you may (or may not) be able to configure the second (Netgear)
router to act as a print server, not all entry-level wireless routers
are capable of this with factory-standard firmware, and I'm not
particularly familiar with Netgear products.

I suggest two alternatives, assuming that what you have is the WGT624:

1.  Return the Netgear router and exchange it for a wireless print server.

2.  Call Netgear support and ask how (if) the WGT624 can be configured
as a wireless print server.

--
Lem   MS MVP -- Networking

To the moon and back with 64 Kbits of RAM and 512 Kbits of ROM.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_Guidance_Computer
Author
2 Nov 2006 5:37 PM
Lem
Lem wrote:
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> pelican wrote:
>> At this point, it's not a matter of money but pride.
>> Please don't give up on me yet.
>> Here's a better description:
>> http://www.pelicandevelopers.com/wireless.gif
>>
>> 1. Our Samsung printer (which has a network connection static IP) is
>> connected to the Netgear wirless router.
>>
>> 2. Our wireless internet connection is on the 2wire469
>>
>> 3. When we select "connect" to either one we get,, connected,  but lose
>> the other connection, and cannot get simultaneous internet and
>> printing.
>>
>> Suz
>>
>> Malke wrote:
>>> pelican wrote:
>>>
>>>> Ok, getting close. I was able to print, but only if I select the
>>>> Netgear wireless router (in the XP wireless connection app) which is
>>>> the router connected to the printer.
>>>> When I select "connect" to the printer's wireless router, I can no
>>>> longer get online - we lose the connection to the SBC wireless router.
>>>> Hmmm?
>>> Sorry, your description of your setup is just too hard to visualize. I
>>> understand that you'd prefer to solve this without spending any money,
>>> but someone else will have to give you the answers. I do think that in
>>> cases like yours the most efficient way to solve problems is to have
>>> someone on-site who can see what is going on and do hands-on work.
>>>
>>> Perhaps someone else reading this thread will have your answer, but I
>>> don't. I'm sorry I was unable to help you.
>>>
>>> Malke
>>> --
>>> Elephant Boy Computers
>>> www.elephantboycomputers.com
>>> "Don't Panic!"
>>> MS-MVP Windows - Shell/User
>>
> You have too many routers.  I think you bought the wrong product, but
> I'm not sure, because I'm unable to find anything called the "WGT64" on
> Netgear's U.S. site.  There is a product called the "WGT624" which is a
> wireless router.  The only Netgear wireless print server is the WGPS606".
>
> The screenshot you linked to appears to confirm this.  It shows two
> separate wireless networks (at least the two entries marked with red are
> two separate networks).
>
> Although you may (or may not) be able to configure the second (Netgear)
> router to act as a print server, not all entry-level wireless routers
> are capable of this with factory-standard firmware, and I'm not
> particularly familiar with Netgear products.
>
> I suggest two alternatives, assuming that what you have is the WGT624:
>
> 1.  Return the Netgear router and exchange it for a wireless print server.
>
> 2.  Call Netgear support and ask how (if) the WGT624 can be configured
> as a wireless print server.
>

I need to clarify my previous answer a bit.

Because the printer is "network ready," you don't in fact, need a "print
server."  Print servers, have either USB and/or parallel ports to which
you can connect a printer that does not have an ethernet connection.
the WGPS606, for example, has 2 USB ports (it also has 4 ethernet ports,
but that's for a different purpose).

What you want is a "wireless bridge."  Again, it's possible that the
Netgear router you have may be configurable as a bridge, which may or
may not work with your 2wire wireless router.

So, change my option #1 to "exchange the router for a wireless bridge."

--
Lem   MS MVP -- Networking

To the moon and back with 64 Kbits of RAM and 512 Kbits of ROM.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_Guidance_Computer
Author
6 Nov 2006 3:26 PM
pelican
Thanks so much for your thorough reply.
>From what I've read, I don't think the Netgear-WGT624 will bridge with
the 2Wire-1000HG.

Can anyone recommend a Wireless router that will brigde (wirelessly)
with the SBC 2wire 1000HG?

Suz

Lem wrote:
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> Lem wrote:
> > pelican wrote:
> >> At this point, it's not a matter of money but pride.
> >> Please don't give up on me yet.
> >> Here's a better description:
> >> http://www.pelicandevelopers.com/wireless.gif
> >>
> >> 1. Our Samsung printer (which has a network connection static IP) is
> >> connected to the Netgear wirless router.
> >>
> >> 2. Our wireless internet connection is on the 2wire469
> >>
> >> 3. When we select "connect" to either one we get,, connected,  but lose
> >> the other connection, and cannot get simultaneous internet and
> >> printing.
> >>
> >> Suz
> >>
> >> Malke wrote:
> >>> pelican wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Ok, getting close. I was able to print, but only if I select the
> >>>> Netgear wireless router (in the XP wireless connection app) which is
> >>>> the router connected to the printer.
> >>>> When I select "connect" to the printer's wireless router, I can no
> >>>> longer get online - we lose the connection to the SBC wireless router.
> >>>> Hmmm?
> >>> Sorry, your description of your setup is just too hard to visualize. I
> >>> understand that you'd prefer to solve this without spending any money,
> >>> but someone else will have to give you the answers. I do think that in
> >>> cases like yours the most efficient way to solve problems is to have
> >>> someone on-site who can see what is going on and do hands-on work.
> >>>
> >>> Perhaps someone else reading this thread will have your answer, but I
> >>> don't. I'm sorry I was unable to help you.
> >>>
> >>> Malke
> >>> --
> >>> Elephant Boy Computers
> >>> www.elephantboycomputers.com
> >>> "Don't Panic!"
> >>> MS-MVP Windows - Shell/User
> >>
> > You have too many routers.  I think you bought the wrong product, but
> > I'm not sure, because I'm unable to find anything called the "WGT64" on
> > Netgear's U.S. site.  There is a product called the "WGT624" which is a
> > wireless router.  The only Netgear wireless print server is the WGPS606".
> >
> > The screenshot you linked to appears to confirm this.  It shows two
> > separate wireless networks (at least the two entries marked with red are
> > two separate networks).
> >
> > Although you may (or may not) be able to configure the second (Netgear)
> > router to act as a print server, not all entry-level wireless routers
> > are capable of this with factory-standard firmware, and I'm not
> > particularly familiar with Netgear products.
> >
> > I suggest two alternatives, assuming that what you have is the WGT624:
> >
> > 1.  Return the Netgear router and exchange it for a wireless print server.
> >
> > 2.  Call Netgear support and ask how (if) the WGT624 can be configured
> > as a wireless print server.
> >
>
> I need to clarify my previous answer a bit.
>
> Because the printer is "network ready," you don't in fact, need a "print
> server."  Print servers, have either USB and/or parallel ports to which
> you can connect a printer that does not have an ethernet connection.
> the WGPS606, for example, has 2 USB ports (it also has 4 ethernet ports,
> but that's for a different purpose).
>
> What you want is a "wireless bridge."  Again, it's possible that the
> Netgear router you have may be configurable as a bridge, which may or
> may not work with your 2wire wireless router.
>
> So, change my option #1 to "exchange the router for a wireless bridge."
>
> --
> Lem   MS MVP -- Networking
>
> To the moon and back with 64 Kbits of RAM and 512 Kbits of ROM.
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_Guidance_Computer