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Making a home connection using ethernet

Author
4 Nov 2006 3:59 AM
Alastair
i have been trying to make a direct connection between two computers with an
ethernet cable but keep getting errors so i have decided to try and set up a
LAN, how do i do this?

Author
4 Nov 2006 4:26 AM
Steve Winograd [MVP]
In article <C39B6991-03FA-4EF9-9AAC-B9957E3E9***@microsoft.com>,
Alastair <Alast***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
>i have been trying to make a direct connection between two computers with an
>ethernet cable but keep getting errors so i have decided to try and set up a
>LAN, how do i do this?

A direct connection between two computers with an Ethernet cable is a
LAN (local area network), so I'm not sure what you're asking.

What errors are you getting?  A direct computer-to-computer connection
requires a crossover Ethernet cable.  A regular (straight-through)
Ethernet cable won't work, and both computers will report that the
network cable is unplugged,

If you don't want to use a crossover cable, then get a network hub or
switch and connect both computers to it using regular Ethernet cables.
A typical home broadband router has a built-in switch, so both
computers can access a broadband Internet connection through it.
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Author
4 Nov 2006 7:12 AM
Alastair
i dont have a crossover ethernet cable but could the hub be one of the
computers as it has 4 networking ethernet cable sockets

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"Steve Winograd [MVP]" wrote:

> In article <C39B6991-03FA-4EF9-9AAC-B9957E3E9***@microsoft.com>,
> Alastair <Alast***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
> >i have been trying to make a direct connection between two computers with an
> >ethernet cable but keep getting errors so i have decided to try and set up a
> >LAN, how do i do this?
>
> A direct connection between two computers with an Ethernet cable is a
> LAN (local area network), so I'm not sure what you're asking.
>
> What errors are you getting?  A direct computer-to-computer connection
> requires a crossover Ethernet cable.  A regular (straight-through)
> Ethernet cable won't work, and both computers will report that the
> network cable is unplugged,
>
> If you don't want to use a crossover cable, then get a network hub or
> switch and connect both computers to it using regular Ethernet cables.
> A typical home broadband router has a built-in switch, so both
> computers can access a broadband Internet connection through it.
> --
> Best Wishes,
> Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)
>
> Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group
> for everyone to see.  I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions
> addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups.
>
> Microsoft Most Valuable Professional Program
> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
>
Author
4 Nov 2006 6:52 PM
Pop`
??  That's why you can't get the direct connect to work:  It requires the
crossover cable.

Direct connect is simpler and easier than using a hub or switch or whatever
if it's only the two computers involved.


Alastair wrote:
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> i dont have a crossover ethernet cable but could the hub be one of the
> computers as it has 4 networking ethernet cable sockets
>
> "Steve Winograd [MVP]" wrote:
>
>> In article <C39B6991-03FA-4EF9-9AAC-B9957E3E9***@microsoft.com>,
>> Alastair <Alast***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
>>> i have been trying to make a direct connection between two
>>> computers with an ethernet cable but keep getting errors so i have
>>> decided to try and set up a LAN, how do i do this?
>>
>> A direct connection between two computers with an Ethernet cable is a
>> LAN (local area network), so I'm not sure what you're asking.
>>
>> What errors are you getting?  A direct computer-to-computer
>> connection requires a crossover Ethernet cable.  A regular
>> (straight-through) Ethernet cable won't work, and both computers
>> will report that the network cable is unplugged,
>>
>> If you don't want to use a crossover cable, then get a network hub or
>> switch and connect both computers to it using regular Ethernet
>> cables. A typical home broadband router has a built-in switch, so
>> both computers can access a broadband Internet connection through it.
>> --
>> Best Wishes,
>> Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)
>>
>> Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group
>> for everyone to see.  I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions
>> addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups.
>>
>> Microsoft Most Valuable Professional Program
>> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
Author
4 Nov 2006 7:25 AM
Alastair
i configured both computers as host and guest, when i tried to connect to the
computer without internet acces i got eroor 628 and when i tried to connect
to the computer with internet i got error 777, but when i got those messages
the computer whithout internet access said it was accessing the internet via
another computer but i dont think it actually was

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"Steve Winograd [MVP]" wrote:

> In article <C39B6991-03FA-4EF9-9AAC-B9957E3E9***@microsoft.com>,
> Alastair <Alast***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
> >i have been trying to make a direct connection between two computers with an
> >ethernet cable but keep getting errors so i have decided to try and set up a
> >LAN, how do i do this?
>
> A direct connection between two computers with an Ethernet cable is a
> LAN (local area network), so I'm not sure what you're asking.
>
> What errors are you getting?  A direct computer-to-computer connection
> requires a crossover Ethernet cable.  A regular (straight-through)
> Ethernet cable won't work, and both computers will report that the
> network cable is unplugged,
>
> If you don't want to use a crossover cable, then get a network hub or
> switch and connect both computers to it using regular Ethernet cables.
> A typical home broadband router has a built-in switch, so both
> computers can access a broadband Internet connection through it.
> --
> Best Wishes,
> Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)
>
> Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group
> for everyone to see.  I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions
> addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups.
>
> Microsoft Most Valuable Professional Program
> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
>
Author
4 Nov 2006 3:20 PM
FedUp
On Fri, 3 Nov 2006 23:25:01 -0800, Alastair wrote:

> i configured both computers as host and guest, when i tried to connect to the
> computer without internet acces i got eroor 628 and when i tried to connect
> to the computer with internet i got error 777, but when i got those messages
> the computer whithout internet access said it was accessing the internet via
> another computer but i dont think it actually was
>
You were given the answer by two different people. Why are you not
following the instructions given? You need a crossover cable to connect two
computers to each other, or you need a switch or hub to connect both
computers to.
Author
5 Nov 2006 2:51 AM
Alastair
I no i just wanna no if and how i can turn one of the computers (with 4
ethernet cable sockets) into a hub

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"FedUp" wrote:

> On Fri, 3 Nov 2006 23:25:01 -0800, Alastair wrote:
>
> > i configured both computers as host and guest, when i tried to connect to the
> > computer without internet acces i got eroor 628 and when i tried to connect
> > to the computer with internet i got error 777, but when i got those messages
> > the computer whithout internet access said it was accessing the internet via
> > another computer but i dont think it actually was
> >
> You were given the answer by two different people. Why are you not
> following the instructions given? You need a crossover cable to connect two
> computers to each other, or you need a switch or hub to connect both
> computers to.
>
Author
5 Nov 2006 11:35 AM
Richard G. Harper
The answer is, you cannot.  A network hub, switch or router is wired
differently than the network adapter in a computer.  You can't make a
network adapter port work as a hub/switch port does without hardware
modifications - like a crossover cable.

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"Alastair" <Alast***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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>I no i just wanna no if and how i can turn one of the computers (with 4
> ethernet cable sockets) into a hub
Author
4 Nov 2006 4:34 AM
BobC
On Fri, 3 Nov 2006 19:59:01 -0800, Alastair wrote:

> i have been trying to make a direct connection between two computers with an
> ethernet cable but keep getting errors so i have decided to try and set up a
> LAN, how do i do this?

Direct connection between two computers requires the use of a cross over
ethernet cable.

You could set up a LAN using a switch or hub with both computers connected
to the switch or hub with straight through ethernet cables.

You could also use a router to allow both computers to access the Internet
and be on a LAN if you have cable or DSL Internet.