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LAN kaput. Workgoup permission problem?LAN quit working. This computer's name is Kenneth (this one crashed). The other computer on the LAN is Bernard. Both drive C and the registry were restored from very recent backups when the LAN was working fine Neither computer can see the other in Network Neighborhood Router seems to be working XP Home firewall is turned off on both machines. Currently set Kenneth Master Browser Yes, Bernard No. Also tried both as Auto and both No. I read on the web to access Control/Panel/Administrative Tools/Services and set Computer Browser to Stopped and changed Startup Type to Disabled (was Automatic) in Kenneth. (http://forums.speedguide.net/showthread.php?t= 204969) Bernard can see its own drives and folders in Network Neighborhood when I click on Folders (Control Panel). Kenneth cannot see its own drives and folders in Network Neighborhood when I click on Folders (Control Panel). Drives are set to be shared. It shows an icon for MSHOME but I cannot use that to see the computers in the workgroup - says I do not have permission. I think this may be my main problem? From Kenneth I can ping Kenneth but not Bernard From Bernard I can ping Bernard but not Kenneth I didn't change any hardware or cabling I ran the XP network wizard I have a copy of all the network property settings from before the crash and they are the same Tried turning off firewall (Tiny Personal Firewall, version 2.0.15A). Both use MSHOME for workgroup name. HELP! I suspect this is something simple. Ken -- Untie the two knots to email me Every silver lining has a cloud. Ken Knecht <kenkk***@deruknot.com> wrote in
news:Xns987262D199687kenkderucom@140.99.23.22: With regard to this:> Kenneth cannot see its own drives and folders in Network Neighborhood > when I click on Folders (Control Panel). Drives are set to be shared. > It shows an icon for MSHOME but I cannot use that to see the computers > in the workgroup - says I do not have permission. I think this may be > my main problem? > I am the only user on my XP Home machine (Kenneth). There is no Adminstrator. This is the XP Home default. When the machine boots it shows my desktop. -- Untie the two knots to email me Every silver lining has a cloud. Ken Knecht wrote:
Show quoteHide quote > I crashed my system and had to restore drive C. Among other things, my Have you reset Sharing on the one that crashed? Repairing XP would hvae > LAN quit working. This computer's name is Kenneth (this one crashed). > The other computer on the LAN is Bernard. > > Both drive C and the registry were restored from very recent backups > when the LAN was working fine > > Neither computer can see the other in Network Neighborhood > > Router seems to be working > > XP Home firewall is turned off on both machines. > > Currently set Kenneth Master Browser Yes, Bernard No. Also tried both > as Auto and both No. > > I read on the web to access Control/Panel/Administrative > Tools/Services and set Computer Browser to Stopped and changed > Startup Type to Disabled (was Automatic) in Kenneth. > (http://forums.speedguide.net/showthread.php?t= 204969) > > Bernard can see its own drives and folders in Network Neighborhood > when I click on Folders (Control Panel). > > Kenneth cannot see its own drives and folders in Network Neighborhood > when I click on Folders (Control Panel). Drives are set to be shared. > It shows an icon for MSHOME but I cannot use that to see the > computers in the workgroup - says I do not have permission. I think > this may be my main problem? > > From Kenneth I can ping Kenneth but not Bernard > > From Bernard I can ping Bernard but not Kenneth > > I didn't change any hardware or cabling > > I ran the XP network wizard > > I have a copy of all the network property settings from before the > crash and they are the same > > Tried turning off firewall (Tiny Personal Firewall, version 2.0.15A). > > Both use MSHOME for workgroup name. > > HELP! > > I suspect this is something simple. > > Ken turned them all off so perhaps you simply need to set the sharing where you need it.
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"Pop`" <nodoby@devnull.spamcop.net> wrote in I just double-checked. Yes, all hard drives are set to share on both news:#ZZvz0PAHHA.204@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl: > Ken Knecht wrote: >> I crashed my system and had to restore drive C. Among other things, >> my LAN quit working. This computer's name is Kenneth (this one >> crashed). The other computer on the LAN is Bernard. >> >> Both drive C and the registry were restored from very recent backups >> when the LAN was working fine >> >> Neither computer can see the other in Network Neighborhood >> >> Router seems to be working >> >> XP Home firewall is turned off on both machines. >> >> Currently set Kenneth Master Browser Yes, Bernard No. Also tried both >> as Auto and both No. >> >> I read on the web to access Control/Panel/Administrative >> Tools/Services and set Computer Browser to Stopped and changed >> Startup Type to Disabled (was Automatic) in Kenneth. >> (http://forums.speedguide.net/showthread.php?t= 204969) >> >> Bernard can see its own drives and folders in Network Neighborhood >> when I click on Folders (Control Panel). >> >> Kenneth cannot see its own drives and folders in Network Neighborhood >> when I click on Folders (Control Panel). Drives are set to be shared. >> It shows an icon for MSHOME but I cannot use that to see the >> computers in the workgroup - says I do not have permission. I think >> this may be my main problem? >> >> From Kenneth I can ping Kenneth but not Bernard >> >> From Bernard I can ping Bernard but not Kenneth >> >> I didn't change any hardware or cabling >> >> I ran the XP network wizard >> >> I have a copy of all the network property settings from before the >> crash and they are the same >> >> Tried turning off firewall (Tiny Personal Firewall, version 2.0.15A). >> >> Both use MSHOME for workgroup name. >> >> HELP! >> >> I suspect this is something simple. >> >> Ken > > Have you reset Sharing on the one that crashed? Repairing XP would > hvae turned them all off so perhaps you simply need to set the sharing > where you need it. > > > Kenneth and Bernard. Ken -- Untie the two knots to email me Every silver lining has a cloud. Curious, didn't see you mention it, but can either PC ping the router??
Seems that one PC cannot ping the other. If singnals are going to the router, and not to one another, I would take another look at the firewall. If you cannot ping the router, then it's another problem altogether. Show quoteHide quote "Ken Knecht" wrote: > I crashed my system and had to restore drive C. Among other things, my > LAN quit working. This computer's name is Kenneth (this one crashed). The > other computer on the LAN is Bernard. > > Both drive C and the registry were restored from very recent backups when > the LAN was working fine > > Neither computer can see the other in Network Neighborhood > > Router seems to be working > > XP Home firewall is turned off on both machines. > > Currently set Kenneth Master Browser Yes, Bernard No. Also tried both as > Auto and both No. > > I read on the web to access Control/Panel/Administrative Tools/Services and > set Computer Browser to Stopped and changed Startup Type to Disabled (was > Automatic) in Kenneth. (http://forums.speedguide.net/showthread.php?t= > 204969) > > Bernard can see its own drives and folders in Network Neighborhood when I > click on Folders (Control Panel). > > Kenneth cannot see its own drives and folders in Network Neighborhood when > I click on Folders (Control Panel). Drives are set to be shared. It shows > an icon for MSHOME but I cannot use that to see the computers in the > workgroup - says I do not have permission. I think this may be my main > problem? > > From Kenneth I can ping Kenneth but not Bernard > > From Bernard I can ping Bernard but not Kenneth > > I didn't change any hardware or cabling > > I ran the XP network wizard > > I have a copy of all the network property settings from before the crash > and they are the same > > Tried turning off firewall (Tiny Personal Firewall, version 2.0.15A). > > Both use MSHOME for workgroup name. > > HELP! > > I suspect this is something simple. > > Ken > > > -- > Untie the two knots to email me > > Every silver lining has a cloud. > > > > Sorry. I misspoke. It's not a router; it's a Netgear EN104 Ethernet Hub.
AFAIK it's not pingable. Ken =?Utf-8?B?RnJhbmtDaGlu?= <FrankC***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in Show quoteHide quote news:D6F2349A-397F-4B11-9B14-3C25AB337E18@microsoft.com: > > Curious, didn't see you mention it, but can either PC ping the > router?? Seems that one PC cannot ping the other. If singnals are > going to the router, and not to one another, I would take another look > at the firewall. > > If you cannot ping the router, then it's another problem altogether. > > > > > "Ken Knecht" wrote: > >> I crashed my system and had to restore drive C. Among other things, >> my LAN quit working. This computer's name is Kenneth (this one >> crashed). The other computer on the LAN is Bernard. >> >> Both drive C and the registry were restored from very recent backups >> when the LAN was working fine >> >> Neither computer can see the other in Network Neighborhood >> >> Router seems to be working >> >> XP Home firewall is turned off on both machines. >> >> Currently set Kenneth Master Browser Yes, Bernard No. Also tried both >> as Auto and both No. >> >> I read on the web to access Control/Panel/Administrative >> Tools/Services and set Computer Browser to Stopped and changed >> Startup Type to Disabled (was Automatic) in Kenneth. >> (http://forums.speedguide.net/showthread.php?t= 204969) >> >> Bernard can see its own drives and folders in Network Neighborhood >> when I click on Folders (Control Panel). >> >> Kenneth cannot see its own drives and folders in Network Neighborhood >> when I click on Folders (Control Panel). Drives are set to be shared. >> It shows an icon for MSHOME but I cannot use that to see the >> computers in the workgroup - says I do not have permission. I think >> this may be my main problem? >> >> From Kenneth I can ping Kenneth but not Bernard >> >> From Bernard I can ping Bernard but not Kenneth >> >> I didn't change any hardware or cabling >> >> I ran the XP network wizard >> >> I have a copy of all the network property settings from before the >> crash and they are the same >> >> Tried turning off firewall (Tiny Personal Firewall, version 2.0.15A). >> >> Both use MSHOME for workgroup name. >> >> HELP! >> >> I suspect this is something simple. >> >> Ken >> >> >> -- >> Untie the two knots to email me >> >> Every silver lining has a cloud. >> >> >> >> > -- Untie the two knots to email me Every silver lining has a cloud. On Sun, 05 Nov 2006 16:45:06 GMT, Ken Knecht <kenkk***@deruknot.com> wrote:
Show quoteHide quote >I crashed my system and had to restore drive C. Among other things, my Ken,>LAN quit working. This computer's name is Kenneth (this one crashed). The >other computer on the LAN is Bernard. > >Both drive C and the registry were restored from very recent backups when >the LAN was working fine > >Neither computer can see the other in Network Neighborhood > >Router seems to be working > >XP Home firewall is turned off on both machines. > >Currently set Kenneth Master Browser Yes, Bernard No. Also tried both as >Auto and both No. > >I read on the web to access Control/Panel/Administrative Tools/Services and >set Computer Browser to Stopped and changed Startup Type to Disabled (was >Automatic) in Kenneth. (http://forums.speedguide.net/showthread.php?t= >204969) > >Bernard can see its own drives and folders in Network Neighborhood when I >click on Folders (Control Panel). > >Kenneth cannot see its own drives and folders in Network Neighborhood when >I click on Folders (Control Panel). Drives are set to be shared. It shows >an icon for MSHOME but I cannot use that to see the computers in the >workgroup - says I do not have permission. I think this may be my main >problem? > >From Kenneth I can ping Kenneth but not Bernard > >From Bernard I can ping Bernard but not Kenneth > >I didn't change any hardware or cabling > >I ran the XP network wizard > >I have a copy of all the network property settings from before the crash >and they are the same > >Tried turning off firewall (Tiny Personal Firewall, version 2.0.15A). > >Both use MSHOME for workgroup name. > >HELP! > >I suspect this is something simple. > >Ken Turning off a firewall isn't always productive. And there are a few more security settings that might be relevant. <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/10/irregularities-in-workgroup-visibility.html> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/10/irregularities-in-workgroup-visibility.html You could look at "browstat status" and "ipconfig /all" from each computer, and diagnose the problem. Read this article, and linked articles, and follow instructions precisely (download browstat!): <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/troubleshooting-network-neighborhood.html#AskingForHelp> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/troubleshooting-network-neighborhood.html#AskingForHelp -- Cheers, Chuck, MS-MVP [Windows - Networking] http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/ Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience. My email is AT DOT actual address pchuck mvps org. 
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