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Network password request during mapping???

Author
10 Nov 2006 10:45 PM
DrB
Have main computer running WinXp-Pro with file/printer sharing on small
network which may not have file/printer sharing. Generally I can see the
Main computer from mine but now (has happened before several times) when I
try to access files on the Main it asks for a password, which I never put in
or installed. Originally it was a mapped drive on Main but I removed to
remap and still asks for a password. Anyone know why and how to remove since
I do not know of any password?

Thanks for your help.

Author
10 Nov 2006 11:16 PM
Robert L [MVP - Networking]
You may need to create the same username on the remote computer. This search result may help,

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Bob Lin, MS-MVP, MCSE & CNE
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  "DrB" <drbur***@pacbell.net> wrote in message news:%23e1W7nRBHHA.3928@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
  Have main computer running WinXp-Pro with file/printer sharing on small
  network which may not have file/printer sharing. Generally I can see the
  Main computer from mine but now (has happened before several times) when I
  try to access files on the Main it asks for a password, which I never put in
  or installed. Originally it was a mapped drive on Main but I removed to
  remap and still asks for a password. Anyone know why and how to remove since
  I do not know of any password?

  Thanks for your help.
Author
10 Nov 2006 11:33 PM
Hamid
You might have to disable SIMPLE FILE SHARING on your both PCs if you havent
done so.



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"DrB" wrote:

> Have main computer running WinXp-Pro with file/printer sharing on small
> network which may not have file/printer sharing. Generally I can see the
> Main computer from mine but now (has happened before several times) when I
> try to access files on the Main it asks for a password, which I never put in
> or installed. Originally it was a mapped drive on Main but I removed to
> remap and still asks for a password. Anyone know why and how to remove since
> I do not know of any password?
>
> Thanks for your help.
>
>
>
Author
11 Nov 2006 2:30 PM
Patty
On Fri, 10 Nov 2006 15:33:02 -0800, Hamid wrote:

> You might have to disable SIMPLE FILE SHARING on your both PCs if you havent
> done so.
>

I don't think so.  If you have simple file sharing enabled, the computers
should allow access to Everyone and not ask for any passwords.  If you
disable simple file sharing, then passwords and permissions may be
necessary for access.

Patty
Author
11 Nov 2006 5:19 PM
Steve Winograd [MVP]
In article <1du163uitvb7d$.1ayduacguqy6w$.***@40tude.net>, Patty
<pa***@iainttellin.com> wrote:
>On Fri, 10 Nov 2006 15:33:02 -0800, Hamid wrote:
>
>> You might have to disable SIMPLE FILE SHARING on your both PCs if you havent
>> done so.
>>
>
>I don't think so.  If you have simple file sharing enabled, the computers
>should allow access to Everyone and not ask for any passwords.  If you
>disable simple file sharing, then passwords and permissions may be
>necessary for access.
>
>Patty

It's possible to get a password request when simple file sharing is
enabled.  That will happen if network access via the Guest account is
disabled, and there's no correct reply to the password prompt in that
case.

Use these commands in a command prompt window (Start > Run > cmd) to
control network access via the Guest account:

To enable:

   net user guest /active:yes

To disable:

   net user guest /active:no
--
Best Wishes,
Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)

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Author
11 Nov 2006 6:45 PM
Patty
On Sat, 11 Nov 2006 10:19:30 -0700, Steve Winograd [MVP] wrote:

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> In article <1du163uitvb7d$.1ayduacguqy6w$.***@40tude.net>, Patty
> <pa***@iainttellin.com> wrote:
>>On Fri, 10 Nov 2006 15:33:02 -0800, Hamid wrote:
>>
>>> You might have to disable SIMPLE FILE SHARING on your both PCs if you havent
>>> done so.
>>>
>>
>>I don't think so.  If you have simple file sharing enabled, the computers
>>should allow access to Everyone and not ask for any passwords.  If you
>>disable simple file sharing, then passwords and permissions may be
>>necessary for access.
>>
>>Patty
>
> It's possible to get a password request when simple file sharing is
> enabled.  That will happen if network access via the Guest account is
> disabled, and there's no correct reply to the password prompt in that
> case.
>
> Use these commands in a command prompt window (Start > Run > cmd) to
> control network access via the Guest account:
>
> To enable:
>
>    net user guest /active:yes
>
> To disable:
>
>    net user guest /active:no

Even so, it is more likely that a password will not be required for simple
file sharing, where it most probably will be if you turn off simple file
sharing.  I have a network with 5 computers using various OSes.  One
computer (XP Pro) had simple file sharing enabled when I first set it up
and everyone played real nice on the network.  Then I turned off simple
file sharing.  Everyone who was playing nice already, continued to play
nice, but any new systems were treated much differently.  I have a second
computer using XP Pro with simple file sharing enabled and it lets everyone
connect, new and old.  Guest account is disabled on both systems.

Patty
Author
12 Nov 2006 12:11 AM
Steve Winograd [MVP]
In article <svw8wnf8l5bc$.t9j9mkfsanud$.***@40tude.net>, Patty
<pa***@iainttellin.com> wrote:
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>> It's possible to get a password request when simple file sharing is
>> enabled.  That will happen if network access via the Guest account is
>> disabled, and there's no correct reply to the password prompt in that
>> case.
>>
>> Use these commands in a command prompt window (Start > Run > cmd) to
>> control network access via the Guest account:
>>
>> To enable:
>>
>>    net user guest /active:yes
>>
>> To disable:
>>
>>    net user guest /active:no
>
>Even so, it is more likely that a password will not be required for simple
>file sharing, where it most probably will be if you turn off simple file
>sharing.  I have a network with 5 computers using various OSes.  One
>computer (XP Pro) had simple file sharing enabled when I first set it up
>and everyone played real nice on the network.  Then I turned off simple
>file sharing.  Everyone who was playing nice already, continued to play
>nice, but any new systems were treated much differently.  I have a second
>computer using XP Pro with simple file sharing enabled and it lets everyone
>connect, new and old.  Guest account is disabled on both systems.
>
>Patty

If a computer uses simple file sharing and the Guest account is
disabled for network access, no one will be able to access its shared
folders over the network.

I suspect that you disabled the Guest account in Control Panel > User
Accounts.  That setting has nothing to do with networking.  It
determines whether someone can log on as Guest at the keyboard.
--
Best Wishes,
Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)

Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group
for everyone to see.  I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions
addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups.

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Author
12 Nov 2006 5:06 PM
DrB
Guest account is off on all three computers and I do not have any problems
seeing each other except for the Wife's (which I had called as Main is this
newsgroup) computer. So why do I need to change to allow Guest accounts?

Doesn't one go into control panel-user accounts to do this and on what
computer?


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"Steve Winograd [MVP]" <bcma***@mvps.org> wrote in message
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> In article <1du163uitvb7d$.1ayduacguqy6w$.***@40tude.net>, Patty
> <pa***@iainttellin.com> wrote:
>>On Fri, 10 Nov 2006 15:33:02 -0800, Hamid wrote:
>>
>>> You might have to disable SIMPLE FILE SHARING on your both PCs if you
>>> havent
>>> done so.
>>>
>>
>>I don't think so.  If you have simple file sharing enabled, the computers
>>should allow access to Everyone and not ask for any passwords.  If you
>>disable simple file sharing, then passwords and permissions may be
>>necessary for access.
>>
>>Patty
>
> It's possible to get a password request when simple file sharing is
> enabled.  That will happen if network access via the Guest account is
> disabled, and there's no correct reply to the password prompt in that
> case.
>
> Use these commands in a command prompt window (Start > Run > cmd) to
> control network access via the Guest account:
>
> To enable:
>
>   net user guest /active:yes
>
> To disable:
>
>   net user guest /active:no
> --
> Best Wishes,
> Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)
>
> Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group
> for everyone to see.  I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions
> addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups.
>
> Microsoft Most Valuable Professional Program
> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
Author
12 Nov 2006 8:10 PM
Steve Winograd [MVP]
In article <#rLEQznBHHA.4***@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl>, "DrB"
<drbur***@pacbell.net> wrote:
>Guest account is off on all three computers and I do not have any problems
>seeing each other except for the Wife's (which I had called as Main is this
>newsgroup) computer. So why do I need to change to allow Guest accounts?
>
>Doesn't one go into control panel-user accounts to do this and on what
>computer?

Enabling or disabling the Guest account in Control Panel > User
Accounts has nothing to do with networking.  It determines whether
someone can log on as Guest at a computer's local keyboard when the
Welcome Screen or logon prompt appears.

These commands control networked access to a computer's shared folders
from other computers via the Guest account when simple file sharing is
enabled:

To allow other computers to access shared folders:

     net user guest /active:yes

To prevent other computers from accessing shared folders:

     net user guest /active:no
--
Best Wishes,
Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)

Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group
for everyone to see.  I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions
addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups.

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Author
13 Nov 2006 6:09 PM
DrB
Now it is working again. Only thing I did was to restart over a 2 days. Hope
it continues to work since this has happened  before for no known reason.

Should I go into DOS and turn on net user guest/active anyway and maybe
prevent future failure to see the computer?

DrB
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"Steve Winograd [MVP]" <bcma***@mvps.org> wrote in message
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> In article <#rLEQznBHHA.4***@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl>, "DrB"
> <drbur***@pacbell.net> wrote:
>>Guest account is off on all three computers and I do not have any problems
>>seeing each other except for the Wife's (which I had called as Main is
>>this
>>newsgroup) computer. So why do I need to change to allow Guest accounts?
>>
>>Doesn't one go into control panel-user accounts to do this and on what
>>computer?
>
> Enabling or disabling the Guest account in Control Panel > User
> Accounts has nothing to do with networking.  It determines whether
> someone can log on as Guest at a computer's local keyboard when the
> Welcome Screen or logon prompt appears.
>
> These commands control networked access to a computer's shared folders
> from other computers via the Guest account when simple file sharing is
> enabled:
>
> To allow other computers to access shared folders:
>
>     net user guest /active:yes
>
> To prevent other computers from accessing shared folders:
>
>     net user guest /active:no
> --
> Best Wishes,
> Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)
>
> Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group
> for everyone to see.  I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions
> addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups.
>
> Microsoft Most Valuable Professional Program
> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
Author
13 Nov 2006 6:25 PM
Steve Winograd [MVP]
In article <#hH#X70BHHA.4***@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl>, "DrB"
<drbur***@pacbell.net> wrote:
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>>>Guest account is off on all three computers and I do not have any problems
>>>seeing each other except for the Wife's (which I had called as Main is
>>>this
>>>newsgroup) computer. So why do I need to change to allow Guest accounts?
>>>
>>>Doesn't one go into control panel-user accounts to do this and on what
>>>computer?
>>
>> Enabling or disabling the Guest account in Control Panel > User
>> Accounts has nothing to do with networking.  It determines whether
>> someone can log on as Guest at a computer's local keyboard when the
>> Welcome Screen or logon prompt appears.
>>
>> These commands control networked access to a computer's shared folders
>> from other computers via the Guest account when simple file sharing is
>> enabled:
>>
>> To allow other computers to access shared folders:
>>
>>     net user guest /active:yes
>>
>> To prevent other computers from accessing shared folders:
>>
>>     net user guest /active:no
>
>Now it is working again. Only thing I did was to restart over a 2 days. Hope
>it continues to work since this has happened  before for no known reason.
>
>Should I go into DOS and turn on net user guest/active anyway and maybe
>prevent future failure to see the computer?
>
>DrB

Rebooting often fixes strange problems.  :-)

Since everything is working, there's no need to fix anything.  Since
other computers can access this computer's shared folders, the Guest
account is already enabled for network access.  Entering the command
to enable access would have no effect, good or bad.

Disabling network access via the Guest account doesn't make a computer
invisible.  It causes a logon prompt to appear when you try to access
a shared folder on the computer.  If a computer can't be seen at all,
something else is causing the problem.
--
Best Wishes,
Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)

Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group
for everyone to see.  I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions
addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups.

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