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Internet Gatewaydsl router, and under my Network Connections I have always had under 'LAN or high speed internet' the BT voyager remote devide listed as a 'local area connection', and this was the only connection that was ever enabled. However, today there has appeared another connection, under Internet Gateway, titled internet connection, which I have never seen there before, and I cannot understand why it would just appear today. Both this and the above connection are enabled at the same time now. I tried speaking to BT broadband help (three different people) but they couldnt help, so hoping someone here can help. I am also concerned that this new connection is something rogue, or allows someone to access my pc or connection from another pc. I only have one pc used at home for business, ie no network PCs set up in my home. I am very non-tech so please if you need any more info just let me know. many thanks, md In article <A77F2378-B44B-4A8C-A1EE-93662127E***@microsoft.com>, md
<m*@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote: Show quoteHide quote >Hello, hope someone can help - I have a BT broadband connection via voyager The Internet Gateway is a normal part of Windows XP. It represents>dsl router, and under my Network Connections I have always had under 'LAN or >high speed internet' the BT voyager remote devide listed as a 'local area >connection', and this was the only connection that was ever enabled. > >However, today there has appeared another connection, under Internet >Gateway, titled internet connection, which I have never seen there before, >and I cannot understand why it would just appear today. Both this and the >above connection are enabled at the same time now. > >I tried speaking to BT broadband help (three different people) but they >couldnt help, so hoping someone here can help. I am also concerned that this >new connection is something rogue, or allows someone to access my pc or >connection from another pc. I only have one pc used at home for business, ie >no network PCs set up in my home. > >I am very non-tech so please if you need any more info just let me know. > >many thanks, > md the device that gives Internet access to your computer. In your case, that's the BT Voyager DSL router. Why did it just appear? It could be because of a Windows Update on the computer, an update to the router's firmware, or a change in firewall settings on your computer. If your computer has a wireless network connection, it might have connected to a network belonging to one of your neighbors. For more information, click Start > Help and Support, and search for the topic "Using Internet Gateway Device Discovery and Control". -- Best Wishes, Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking) Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups. Microsoft Most Valuable Professional Program http://mvp.support.microsoft.com Many thanks Steve. I checked and last windows update was end of last week
(IE7) so dont think its that as have used PC since. I havent updated the router software, nor changed firewall settings, so Im stumped as to why. However I will read the article you have kindly mentioned to see if sheds any light. My PC was bought 'wireless enabled', but I have (as far as I am aware) disabled this as I am not happy I could ensure it would be securely set up. The wireless network connection option in my network connections list is shown as disabled. Hmmm perhaps this is something to do with upgrading to IE7, though its strange it would take a few days to do this, I dont know. My concern also was someone said to me that the gateway isnt secure and its best to disable it (something about leaves a 'port insecure'). Sorry if this is vague, its a bit beyond my PC knowledge which is basic. So I tried to disable it, but then internet connection is lost, which would make sense given what you say. Presume I would need to do more to remove its use, but then again I dont feel I understand well enough to be able to decide whether to do this. Ok, I will look at the article you mention and hopefully I can make some sense of it all, many thanks again Steve. Show quoteHide quote "Steve Winograd [MVP]" wrote: > In article <A77F2378-B44B-4A8C-A1EE-93662127E***@microsoft.com>, md > <m*@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote: > >Hello, hope someone can help - I have a BT broadband connection via voyager > >dsl router, and under my Network Connections I have always had under 'LAN or > >high speed internet' the BT voyager remote devide listed as a 'local area > >connection', and this was the only connection that was ever enabled. > > > >However, today there has appeared another connection, under Internet > >Gateway, titled internet connection, which I have never seen there before, > >and I cannot understand why it would just appear today. Both this and the > >above connection are enabled at the same time now. > > > >I tried speaking to BT broadband help (three different people) but they > >couldnt help, so hoping someone here can help. I am also concerned that this > >new connection is something rogue, or allows someone to access my pc or > >connection from another pc. I only have one pc used at home for business, ie > >no network PCs set up in my home. > > > >I am very non-tech so please if you need any more info just let me know. > > > >many thanks, > > md > > The Internet Gateway is a normal part of Windows XP. It represents > the device that gives Internet access to your computer. In your case, > that's the BT Voyager DSL router. > > Why did it just appear? It could be because of a Windows Update on > the computer, an update to the router's firmware, or a change in > firewall settings on your computer. If your computer has a wireless > network connection, it might have connected to a network belonging to > one of your neighbors. > > For more information, click Start > Help and Support, and search for > the topic "Using Internet Gateway Device Discovery and Control". > -- > Best Wishes, > Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking) > > Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group > for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions > addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups. > > Microsoft Most Valuable Professional Program > http://mvp.support.microsoft.com > In article <26AE4199-C062-4B42-A42A-30DADB35E***@microsoft.com>, md
<m*@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote: Show quoteHide quote >> >Hello, hope someone can help - I have a BT broadband connection via voyager You're welcome. Clicking the Internet Gateway icon lets you monitor>> >dsl router, and under my Network Connections I have always had under 'LAN or >> >high speed internet' the BT voyager remote devide listed as a 'local area >> >connection', and this was the only connection that was ever enabled. >> > >> >However, today there has appeared another connection, under Internet >> >Gateway, titled internet connection, which I have never seen there before, >> >and I cannot understand why it would just appear today. Both this and the >> >above connection are enabled at the same time now. >> > >> >I tried speaking to BT broadband help (three different people) but they >> >couldnt help, so hoping someone here can help. I am also concerned that this >> >new connection is something rogue, or allows someone to access my pc or >> >connection from another pc. I only have one pc used at home for business, ie >> >no network PCs set up in my home. >> > >> >I am very non-tech so please if you need any more info just let me know. >> > >> >many thanks, >> > md >> >> The Internet Gateway is a normal part of Windows XP. It represents >> the device that gives Internet access to your computer. In your case, >> that's the BT Voyager DSL router. >> >> Why did it just appear? It could be because of a Windows Update on >> the computer, an update to the router's firmware, or a change in >> firewall settings on your computer. If your computer has a wireless >> network connection, it might have connected to a network belonging to >> one of your neighbors. >> >> For more information, click Start > Help and Support, and search for >> the topic "Using Internet Gateway Device Discovery and Control". > >Many thanks Steve. I checked and last windows update was end of last week >(IE7) so dont think its that as have used PC since. I havent updated the >router software, nor changed firewall settings, so Im stumped as to why. >However I will read the article you have kindly mentioned to see if sheds any >light. My PC was bought 'wireless enabled', but I have (as far as I am aware) >disabled this as I am not happy I could ensure it would be securely set up. >The wireless network connection option in my network connections list is >shown as disabled. > >Hmmm perhaps this is something to do with upgrading to IE7, though its >strange it would take a few days to do this, I dont know. > >My concern also was someone said to me that the gateway isnt secure and its >best to disable it (something about leaves a 'port insecure'). Sorry if this >is vague, its a bit beyond my PC knowledge which is basic. So I tried to >disable it, but then internet connection is lost, which would make sense >given what you say. Presume I would need to do more to remove its use, but >then again I dont feel I understand well enough to be able to decide whether >to do this. > >Ok, I will look at the article you mention and hopefully I can make some >sense of it all, > many thanks again Steve. and control the your DSL router's operation. Disabling the Internet Gateway tells the DSL router to disconnect you from the Internet. I'm not sure what the concern about 'port insecure' is. Can you say more about it? I'm not aware of any way that a bad guy on the Internet can exploit an Internet Gateway. However, most people have no need for the Internet Gateway. If you want to remove it, disable "UPnP" support in the router's setup, or go to Control Panel > Add or Remove Programs > Windows Setup > Networking Services, and un-install "Internet Gateway Device Discovery and Control Client". -- Best Wishes, Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking) Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups. Microsoft Most Valuable Professional Program http://mvp.support.microsoft.com Thanks Steve, Im not sure now what the port thing was, I spoke to various
people at bt one of which mentioned the gateway can make a port insecure, i think he said it left one open. To be honest I was flummoxed with their advice, andits pot luck if you get someone who can help there, one even said the problem was spam ?! and to report it to them on another number which he gave - now, im not that tech non-savvy ! For curiosity I phoned it tho, the number was a fax one surprise surprise. Ive had more than one instance where this has happenned with bt, and another trick is they put you on hold as they transfer you to someone who can help, and the line goes dead. Seems to be an easy way of ticking off a successful completed call when they are stumped is my guess. Anyway, I diverge into a rant ... Ive now cleared the checkbox on the network services for gateway, and all seems back to normal (well, I then had a problem with outlook not opening also after that, but managed to find some online help to start it in safe mode then repair it, which seems to have got it up and running again). many thanks, md Show quoteHide quote "Steve Winograd [MVP]" wrote: > In article <26AE4199-C062-4B42-A42A-30DADB35E***@microsoft.com>, md > <m*@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote: > >> >Hello, hope someone can help - I have a BT broadband connection via voyager > >> >dsl router, and under my Network Connections I have always had under 'LAN or > >> >high speed internet' the BT voyager remote devide listed as a 'local area > >> >connection', and this was the only connection that was ever enabled. > >> > > >> >However, today there has appeared another connection, under Internet > >> >Gateway, titled internet connection, which I have never seen there before, > >> >and I cannot understand why it would just appear today. Both this and the > >> >above connection are enabled at the same time now. > >> > > >> >I tried speaking to BT broadband help (three different people) but they > >> >couldnt help, so hoping someone here can help. I am also concerned that this > >> >new connection is something rogue, or allows someone to access my pc or > >> >connection from another pc. I only have one pc used at home for business, ie > >> >no network PCs set up in my home. > >> > > >> >I am very non-tech so please if you need any more info just let me know. > >> > > >> >many thanks, > >> > md > >> > >> The Internet Gateway is a normal part of Windows XP. It represents > >> the device that gives Internet access to your computer. In your case, > >> that's the BT Voyager DSL router. > >> > >> Why did it just appear? It could be because of a Windows Update on > >> the computer, an update to the router's firmware, or a change in > >> firewall settings on your computer. If your computer has a wireless > >> network connection, it might have connected to a network belonging to > >> one of your neighbors. > >> > >> For more information, click Start > Help and Support, and search for > >> the topic "Using Internet Gateway Device Discovery and Control". > > > >Many thanks Steve. I checked and last windows update was end of last week > >(IE7) so dont think its that as have used PC since. I havent updated the > >router software, nor changed firewall settings, so Im stumped as to why. > >However I will read the article you have kindly mentioned to see if sheds any > >light. My PC was bought 'wireless enabled', but I have (as far as I am aware) > >disabled this as I am not happy I could ensure it would be securely set up. > >The wireless network connection option in my network connections list is > >shown as disabled. > > > >Hmmm perhaps this is something to do with upgrading to IE7, though its > >strange it would take a few days to do this, I dont know. > > > >My concern also was someone said to me that the gateway isnt secure and its > >best to disable it (something about leaves a 'port insecure'). Sorry if this > >is vague, its a bit beyond my PC knowledge which is basic. So I tried to > >disable it, but then internet connection is lost, which would make sense > >given what you say. Presume I would need to do more to remove its use, but > >then again I dont feel I understand well enough to be able to decide whether > >to do this. > > > >Ok, I will look at the article you mention and hopefully I can make some > >sense of it all, > > many thanks again Steve. > > You're welcome. Clicking the Internet Gateway icon lets you monitor > and control the your DSL router's operation. Disabling the Internet > Gateway tells the DSL router to disconnect you from the Internet. > > I'm not sure what the concern about 'port insecure' is. Can you say > more about it? I'm not aware of any way that a bad guy on the > Internet can exploit an Internet Gateway. > > However, most people have no need for the Internet Gateway. If you > want to remove it, disable "UPnP" support in the router's setup, or go > to Control Panel > Add or Remove Programs > Windows Setup > Networking > Services, and un-install "Internet Gateway Device Discovery and > Control Client". > -- > Best Wishes, > Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking) > > Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group > for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions > addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups. > > Microsoft Most Valuable Professional Program > http://mvp.support.microsoft.com > This article might help.
http://www.networklab.co.uk/cmodem/winxpics.html I actually had this "gateway" showing up on some PC's when I was new at XP networking, and from time to time, I get it when I set up a new connection, apparently if asked "if the PC will be sharing the internet connection", and the answer to it is "yes". I kinda know this because when I started networking, and was green, I got "little or no connectivity", so I tried setting up connections in all different ways. So I see many different things popping up. My two networks are now stable. Since ths internet is connected at the router level, the answer should be "no" to ICS. I'm not technical enough to say what consequence would be if I answered yes, and not used. Redundant?? My guess is it is capable of internet sharing, but with no other PC's to share with as they all go through the router. At the time, I wasn't sure what I was doing, and some PC's got the "gateway"icon showing up, and others not, depending on how I answered in the setup. I also noticed in the "status" of the gateway, packet counts are made, but often, when I click properties, it appears for a second, then goes away, without staying put. Currently, I got the "router" icon showing on some PC's and not others. In fact, I got some "bridges" showing up on some connections, depending on some questions I answered, since I got wired and wireless on most machines. I since deleted all the bridges, gateways, and it seems not to affect overall operations any. I kept the router icon in some machines, though that's redundant as I can access at http://192.168.1.1 Bottomline seems to be, if your PC's get its internet connections thru the router, the gateway is redundant. Show quoteHide quote "md" wrote: > Hello, hope someone can help - I have a BT broadband connection via voyager > dsl router, and under my Network Connections I have always had under 'LAN or > high speed internet' the BT voyager remote devide listed as a 'local area > connection', and this was the only connection that was ever enabled. > > However, today there has appeared another connection, under Internet > Gateway, titled internet connection, which I have never seen there before, > and I cannot understand why it would just appear today. Both this and the > above connection are enabled at the same time now. > > I tried speaking to BT broadband help (three different people) but they > couldnt help, so hoping someone here can help. I am also concerned that this > new connection is something rogue, or allows someone to access my pc or > connection from another pc. I only have one pc used at home for business, ie > no network PCs set up in my home. > > I am very non-tech so please if you need any more info just let me know. > > many thanks, > md 
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