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Author
19 Nov 2006 2:57 PM
Old-T
My desktop is a WinXP home that's been running for 3½ years now without any
problem. The machine has an iTunes share and a couple of file shares.
Last week the machine suddenly started to behave strange.
The machine is connected to a router through a wireless network.

From the machine I can
- use the internet,
- use SAMBA shares that is on my Linux machine
- download files from ftp server when I have the full path to the file.
- connect and log in to ftp server
I cannot
- share my iTunes library
- share files using standard file sharing
- LIST anything on other ftp server.

The ip address of the XP machine is 176.8.128.19

When I from another machine tries to conect to my ..19 machine everything
fails :-(
It does not even respond to ping.

I ran a port scan on both the machine locally and from another machine. I
get different result....
When I run the port scan from the XP on the XP it says that port 21, 80,
110, 139 and 443 are open
When I run the same port scan from another machine it says that ALL ports
except port 110 are blocked.

So, what have I since it worked?
I have upgraded the anti virus from AVG 7.1 to AVG 7.5. No matter where I
look, the AVG 7.5 does not say it has any form of firewall (it shouldn't have
either)

Disableing the XP firewall and anti-virus does not help.

Help, anyone!?

// T

Author
19 Nov 2006 3:33 PM
Malke
Old-T wrote:

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> My desktop is a WinXP home that's been running for 3½ years now
> without any problem. The machine has an iTunes share and a couple of
> file shares. Last week the machine suddenly started to behave strange.
> The machine is connected to a router through a wireless network.
>
> From the machine I can
> - use the internet,
> - use SAMBA shares that is on my Linux machine
> - download files from ftp server when I have the full path to the
> file. - connect and log in to ftp server
> I cannot
> - share my iTunes library
> - share files using standard file sharing
> - LIST anything on other ftp server.
>
> The ip address of the XP machine is 176.8.128.19
>
> When I from another machine tries to conect to my ..19 machine
> everything fails :-(
> It does not even respond to ping.
>
> I ran a port scan on both the machine locally and from another
> machine. I get different result....
> When I run the port scan from the XP on the XP it says that port 21,
> 80, 110, 139 and 443 are open
> When I run the same port scan from another machine it says that ALL
> ports except port 110 are blocked.

(snip)

Unless you made a typo, here's your problem:

> The ip address of the XP machine is 176.8.128.19

Allowable IPv4 addresses for private networks (your local area network)
are:

10.0.0.0/8. The 10.0.0.0/8 private network is a Class A network ID that
supports the following range of valid IP addresses: 10.0.0.1 through
10.255.255.254.

172.16.0.0/12. The 172.16.0.0/12 private network can be interpreted
either as a block of 16 Class B network IDs or as a 20-bit assignable
address space (20 host bits) that can be used for any subnetting scheme
within the private organization. The 172.16.0.0/12 private network
supports the following range of valid IP addresses: 172.16.0.1 through
172.31.255.254.

192.168.0.0/16. The 192.168.0.0/16 private network can be interpreted
either as a block of 256 Class C network IDs or as a 16-bit assignable
address space (16 host bits) that can be used for any subnetting scheme
within the private organization. The 192.168.0.0/16 private network
supports the following range of valid IP addresses: 192.168.0.1 through
192.168.255.254.

I don't know what caused your machine's IP address to change, but you
need to make sure it is using one of the private IP schemes above and
naturally matches the rest of your lan.

Malke
--
Elephant Boy Computers
www.elephantboycomputers.com
"Don't Panic!"
MS-MVP Windows - Shell/User
Author
19 Nov 2006 4:44 PM
Old-T
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"Malke" wrote:

> Old-T wrote:
>
> > My desktop is a WinXP home that's been running for 3½ years now
> > without any problem. The machine has an iTunes share and a couple of
> > file shares. Last week the machine suddenly started to behave strange.
> > The machine is connected to a router through a wireless network.
> >
> > From the machine I can
> > - use the internet,
> > - use SAMBA shares that is on my Linux machine
> > - download files from ftp server when I have the full path to the
> > file. - connect and log in to ftp server
> > I cannot
> > - share my iTunes library
> > - share files using standard file sharing
> > - LIST anything on other ftp server.
> >
> > The ip address of the XP machine is 176.8.128.19
> >
> > When I from another machine tries to conect to my ..19 machine
> > everything fails :-(
> > It does not even respond to ping.
> >
> > I ran a port scan on both the machine locally and from another
> > machine. I get different result....
> > When I run the port scan from the XP on the XP it says that port 21,
> > 80, 110, 139 and 443 are open
> > When I run the same port scan from another machine it says that ALL
> > ports except port 110 are blocked.
>
>  (snip)
>
> Unless you made a typo, here's your problem:
>
> > The ip address of the XP machine is 176.8.128.19
>
> Allowable IPv4 addresses for private networks (your local area network)
> are:
>
> 10.0.0.0/8. The 10.0.0.0/8 private network is a Class A network ID that
> supports the following range of valid IP addresses: 10.0.0.1 through
> 10.255.255.254.
>
> 172.16.0.0/12. The 172.16.0.0/12 private network can be interpreted
> either as a block of 16 Class B network IDs or as a 20-bit assignable
> address space (20 host bits) that can be used for any subnetting scheme
> within the private organization. The 172.16.0.0/12 private network
> supports the following range of valid IP addresses: 172.16.0.1 through
> 172.31.255.254.
>
> 192.168.0.0/16. The 192.168.0.0/16 private network can be interpreted
> either as a block of 256 Class C network IDs or as a 16-bit assignable
> address space (16 host bits) that can be used for any subnetting scheme
> within the private organization. The 192.168.0.0/16 private network
> supports the following range of valid IP addresses: 192.168.0.1 through
> 192.168.255.254.
>
> I don't know what caused your machine's IP address to change, but you
> need to make sure it is using one of the private IP schemes above and
> naturally matches the rest of your lan.
>
> Malke
> --
> Elephant Boy Computers
> www.elephantboycomputers.com
> "Don't Panic!"
> MS-MVP Windows - Shell/User
>

I've been using these 176.8.128.xx for years now without any problem.
I have four machines with a static ip (176.8.128.19-23), the rest are DHCP
rangin from 176.8.128.2-7

I have various OS:es as well, Linux Suse 10.1, XP Home, XP Pro, ME and an
XBox on the same subnet but only this particular XP Home that have this
problem.

The machine used to show itself with name on the router, but now the router
just reports UNKNOWN.

The XP behaves as if there is a "second" firewall that blocks all port
accesses.
Disabling the Windows Firewall does not help.

I tried to uninstall the AVG Anti virus, but the result was the same.

// Confused-T
Author
20 Nov 2006 4:18 PM
Superfly Merlin
I think one of the latest Microsoft updates has reset the built-in XP
firewall to block services on a local subnets that were previously available.
I do not think simply stopping the XP firewall is sufficient.  I am
searching Microsoft to see if I can verify this but right now all I see is a
lot of issues that *could* be related.  On the machine you are unable to
communicate with, go into the XP firewall settings and try allowing tcp 139
for the local subnet and, depending on what type of DNS server you have in
that environment, tcp 445 for a Microsoft DNS server or tcp 53 for any other
type of DNS.  TCP 139 should get your file shares working if you use IP
addresses and the DNS ports should fix the name resolution if you prefer to
use names instead of IPs.  I will check back on this thread to see if you
have any luck!

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"Old-T" wrote:

>
>
> "Malke" wrote:
>
> > Old-T wrote:
> >
> > > My desktop is a WinXP home that's been running for 3½ years now
> > > without any problem. The machine has an iTunes share and a couple of
> > > file shares. Last week the machine suddenly started to behave strange.
> > > The machine is connected to a router through a wireless network.
> > >
> > > From the machine I can
> > > - use the internet,
> > > - use SAMBA shares that is on my Linux machine
> > > - download files from ftp server when I have the full path to the
> > > file. - connect and log in to ftp server
> > > I cannot
> > > - share my iTunes library
> > > - share files using standard file sharing
> > > - LIST anything on other ftp server.
> > >
> > > The ip address of the XP machine is 176.8.128.19
> > >
> > > When I from another machine tries to conect to my ..19 machine
> > > everything fails :-(
> > > It does not even respond to ping.
> > >
> > > I ran a port scan on both the machine locally and from another
> > > machine. I get different result....
> > > When I run the port scan from the XP on the XP it says that port 21,
> > > 80, 110, 139 and 443 are open
> > > When I run the same port scan from another machine it says that ALL
> > > ports except port 110 are blocked.
> >
> >  (snip)
> >
> > Unless you made a typo, here's your problem:
> >
> > > The ip address of the XP machine is 176.8.128.19
> >
> > Allowable IPv4 addresses for private networks (your local area network)
> > are:
> >
> > 10.0.0.0/8. The 10.0.0.0/8 private network is a Class A network ID that
> > supports the following range of valid IP addresses: 10.0.0.1 through
> > 10.255.255.254.
> >
> > 172.16.0.0/12. The 172.16.0.0/12 private network can be interpreted
> > either as a block of 16 Class B network IDs or as a 20-bit assignable
> > address space (20 host bits) that can be used for any subnetting scheme
> > within the private organization. The 172.16.0.0/12 private network
> > supports the following range of valid IP addresses: 172.16.0.1 through
> > 172.31.255.254.
> >
> > 192.168.0.0/16. The 192.168.0.0/16 private network can be interpreted
> > either as a block of 256 Class C network IDs or as a 16-bit assignable
> > address space (16 host bits) that can be used for any subnetting scheme
> > within the private organization. The 192.168.0.0/16 private network
> > supports the following range of valid IP addresses: 192.168.0.1 through
> > 192.168.255.254.
> >
> > I don't know what caused your machine's IP address to change, but you
> > need to make sure it is using one of the private IP schemes above and
> > naturally matches the rest of your lan.
> >
> > Malke
> > --
> > Elephant Boy Computers
> > www.elephantboycomputers.com
> > "Don't Panic!"
> > MS-MVP Windows - Shell/User
> >
>
> I've been using these 176.8.128.xx for years now without any problem.
> I have four machines with a static ip (176.8.128.19-23), the rest are DHCP
> rangin from 176.8.128.2-7
>
> I have various OS:es as well, Linux Suse 10.1, XP Home, XP Pro, ME and an
> XBox on the same subnet but only this particular XP Home that have this
> problem.
>
> The machine used to show itself with name on the router, but now the router
> just reports UNKNOWN.
>
> The XP behaves as if there is a "second" firewall that blocks all port
> accesses.
> Disabling the Windows Firewall does not help.
>
> I tried to uninstall the AVG Anti virus, but the result was the same.
>
> // Confused-T
Author
21 Nov 2006 9:44 PM
Old-T
The Firewall won't allow me to add port 139 since it (the firewall) already
consider it as added. The PortScan (on the XP) does agree on that as well,
the port is open.

Problem is that running the PortScan on another machine _to_ the XP says it
is a very closed computer, only port 110 is open.

Any more hints (or tools to show what's wrong) will be appreciated :-)

// Confused-T

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"Superfly Merlin" wrote:

> I think one of the latest Microsoft updates has reset the built-in XP
> firewall to block services on a local subnets that were previously available.
>  I do not think simply stopping the XP firewall is sufficient.  I am
> searching Microsoft to see if I can verify this but right now all I see is a
> lot of issues that *could* be related.  On the machine you are unable to
> communicate with, go into the XP firewall settings and try allowing tcp 139
> for the local subnet and, depending on what type of DNS server you have in
> that environment, tcp 445 for a Microsoft DNS server or tcp 53 for any other
> type of DNS.  TCP 139 should get your file shares working if you use IP
> addresses and the DNS ports should fix the name resolution if you prefer to
> use names instead of IPs.  I will check back on this thread to see if you
> have any luck!
>
> "Old-T" wrote:
>
>  // Confused-T
Author
28 Nov 2006 6:54 PM
Old-T
More information in this case.

If I start the machien in Fail safe mode with network, my ftp problems are
gone!!

Something evil is loaded when I run a "normal" XP session compared to the
"Fail safe" session.

(plus the fact that the programs start MUCH faster in safe mode.)

// Tommy