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Author
28 Nov 2006 4:34 AM
Denis
I have a network with some 300 PCs.
40% of them are XP,  40% of them are 2000 and remaining are 98.

We use WINS server for Name Resolution.  But, we have a problem since we
have started deploying XP Systems.  The PCs with XP as OS are not shown in
Network Neighbourhood of 98 or Network Places of 2000 in the same workgroup. 
We have configured WINS server's IP address in each and every PCs.  I can
access them direcltly by their name.  Even we have tried disabling Firewall
on XP systems.  But, neither the XP systems are shown in workgroup in 2000/98
nor in XP systems I can see any 98/2000 systems in workgroup.

What might be the problem?  And what is its solution?

Author
28 Nov 2006 5:49 AM
Chuck
On Mon, 27 Nov 2006 20:34:01 -0800, Denis <De***@discussions.microsoft.com>
wrote:

>I have a network with some 300 PCs.
>40% of them are XP,  40% of them are 2000 and remaining are 98.
>
>We use WINS server for Name Resolution.  But, we have a problem since we
>have started deploying XP Systems.  The PCs with XP as OS are not shown in
>Network Neighbourhood of 98 or Network Places of 2000 in the same workgroup. 
>We have configured WINS server's IP address in each and every PCs.  I can
>access them direcltly by their name.  Even we have tried disabling Firewall
>on XP systems.  But, neither the XP systems are shown in workgroup in 2000/98
>nor in XP systems I can see any 98/2000 systems in workgroup.
>
>What might be the problem?  And what is its solution?

Browsing is the problem, not name resolution.  If you have a master browser
conflict, you'll end up with various computers in different browse domains.
<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/04/nt-browser-or-why-cant-i-always-see.html>
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/04/nt-browser-or-why-cant-i-always-see.html

With Windows 9x on the network with Windows NT / 2000 / XP, you have a potential
problem.
<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/windows-9x-9598me-and-browser.html>
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/windows-9x-9598me-and-browser.html

You can run browstat only on Windows 2000 or XP.  But running "browstat status"
on some of the Windows 2000, and some of the XP, computers is a good start.
Remember to download browstat!
<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/browstat-utility-from-microsoft.html>
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/browstat-utility-from-microsoft.html

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Cheers,
Chuck, MS-MVP [Windows - Networking]
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/
Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience.
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   actual       address    pchuck       mvps        org.
Author
28 Nov 2006 7:13 AM
Denis
Thanks for your valued information.

But, my biggest problem is between 2000 and XP systems and not 9x and NT
systems.

Can this problem be solved by implementing a DNS Server instead of WINS
server?

Regards,
Denis





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"Chuck" wrote:

> On Mon, 27 Nov 2006 20:34:01 -0800, Denis <De***@discussions.microsoft.com>
> wrote:
>
> >I have a network with some 300 PCs.
> >40% of them are XP,  40% of them are 2000 and remaining are 98.
> >
> >We use WINS server for Name Resolution.  But, we have a problem since we
> >have started deploying XP Systems.  The PCs with XP as OS are not shown in
> >Network Neighbourhood of 98 or Network Places of 2000 in the same workgroup. 
> >We have configured WINS server's IP address in each and every PCs.  I can
> >access them direcltly by their name.  Even we have tried disabling Firewall
> >on XP systems.  But, neither the XP systems are shown in workgroup in 2000/98
> >nor in XP systems I can see any 98/2000 systems in workgroup.
> >
> >What might be the problem?  And what is its solution?
>
> Browsing is the problem, not name resolution.  If you have a master browser
> conflict, you'll end up with various computers in different browse domains.
> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/04/nt-browser-or-why-cant-i-always-see.html>
> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/04/nt-browser-or-why-cant-i-always-see.html
>
> With Windows 9x on the network with Windows NT / 2000 / XP, you have a potential
> problem.
> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/windows-9x-9598me-and-browser.html>
> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/windows-9x-9598me-and-browser.html
>
> You can run browstat only on Windows 2000 or XP.  But running "browstat status"
> on some of the Windows 2000, and some of the XP, computers is a good start.
> Remember to download browstat!
> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/browstat-utility-from-microsoft.html>
> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/browstat-utility-from-microsoft.html
>
> --
> Cheers,
> Chuck, MS-MVP [Windows - Networking]
> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/
> Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience.
> My        email         is          AT         DOT
>    actual       address    pchuck       mvps        org.
>
Author
28 Nov 2006 10:56 AM
Richard G. Harper
DNS won't help network browsing issues.  Please do read the links Chuck
posted, as they will help you resolve your issues.

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"Denis" <De***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:5D9B0142-0C3B-43E3-8683-3B5EEB26C5FB@microsoft.com...
> Thanks for your valued information.
>
> But, my biggest problem is between 2000 and XP systems and not 9x and NT
> systems.
>
> Can this problem be solved by implementing a DNS Server instead of WINS
> server?
>
> Regards,
> Denis
>
>
>
>
>
> "Chuck" wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 27 Nov 2006 20:34:01 -0800, Denis
>> <De***@discussions.microsoft.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >I have a network with some 300 PCs.
>> >40% of them are XP,  40% of them are 2000 and remaining are 98.
>> >
>> >We use WINS server for Name Resolution.  But, we have a problem since we
>> >have started deploying XP Systems.  The PCs with XP as OS are not shown
>> >in
>> >Network Neighbourhood of 98 or Network Places of 2000 in the same
>> >workgroup.
>> >We have configured WINS server's IP address in each and every PCs.  I
>> >can
>> >access them direcltly by their name.  Even we have tried disabling
>> >Firewall
>> >on XP systems.  But, neither the XP systems are shown in workgroup in
>> >2000/98
>> >nor in XP systems I can see any 98/2000 systems in workgroup.
>> >
>> >What might be the problem?  And what is its solution?
>>
>> Browsing is the problem, not name resolution.  If you have a master
>> browser
>> conflict, you'll end up with various computers in different browse
>> domains.
>> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/04/nt-browser-or-why-cant-i-always-see.html>
>> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/04/nt-browser-or-why-cant-i-always-see.html
>>
>> With Windows 9x on the network with Windows NT / 2000 / XP, you have a
>> potential
>> problem.
>> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/windows-9x-9598me-and-browser.html>
>> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/windows-9x-9598me-and-browser.html
>>
>> You can run browstat only on Windows 2000 or XP.  But running "browstat
>> status"
>> on some of the Windows 2000, and some of the XP, computers is a good
>> start.
>> Remember to download browstat!
>> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/browstat-utility-from-microsoft.html>
>> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/browstat-utility-from-microsoft.html
>>
>> --
>> Cheers,
>> Chuck, MS-MVP [Windows - Networking]
>> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/
>> Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience.
>> My        email         is          AT         DOT
>>    actual       address    pchuck       mvps        org.
>>
Author
28 Nov 2006 7:05 PM
Chuck
On Mon, 27 Nov 2006 23:13:01 -0800, Denis <De***@discussions.microsoft.com>
wrote:

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>"Chuck" wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 27 Nov 2006 20:34:01 -0800, Denis <De***@discussions.microsoft.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >I have a network with some 300 PCs.
>> >40% of them are XP,  40% of them are 2000 and remaining are 98.
>> >
>> >We use WINS server for Name Resolution.  But, we have a problem since we
>> >have started deploying XP Systems.  The PCs with XP as OS are not shown in
>> >Network Neighbourhood of 98 or Network Places of 2000 in the same workgroup. 
>> >We have configured WINS server's IP address in each and every PCs.  I can
>> >access them direcltly by their name.  Even we have tried disabling Firewall
>> >on XP systems.  But, neither the XP systems are shown in workgroup in 2000/98
>> >nor in XP systems I can see any 98/2000 systems in workgroup.
>> >
>> >What might be the problem?  And what is its solution?
>>
>> Browsing is the problem, not name resolution.  If you have a master browser
>> conflict, you'll end up with various computers in different browse domains.
>> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/04/nt-browser-or-why-cant-i-always-see.html>
>> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/04/nt-browser-or-why-cant-i-always-see.html
>>
>> With Windows 9x on the network with Windows NT / 2000 / XP, you have a potential
>> problem.
>> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/windows-9x-9598me-and-browser.html>
>> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/windows-9x-9598me-and-browser.html
>>
>> You can run browstat only on Windows 2000 or XP.  But running "browstat status"
>> on some of the Windows 2000, and some of the XP, computers is a good start.
>> Remember to download browstat!
>> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/browstat-utility-from-microsoft.html>
>> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/browstat-utility-from-microsoft.html

>Thanks for your valued information.
>
>But, my biggest problem is between 2000 and XP systems and not 9x and NT
>systems.
>
>Can this problem be solved by implementing a DNS Server instead of WINS
>server?
>
>Regards,
>Denis

Denis,

As Richard indicates, your problem is with browsing, not with name resolution.
Browstat, run against several Windows XP and several Windows 2000, computers,
will provide the clues.  Run "browstat status", and identify each computer by
name and OS, so we can continue.

--
Cheers,
Chuck, MS-MVP [Windows - Networking]
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/
Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience.
My        email         is          AT         DOT
   actual       address    pchuck       mvps        org.