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ntoskrnl.exe "Changed"Firstly, apologies for the multiple posting, but I wasn`t sure which
would be the most relevant group to use. I have IE6 with Outlook Express, a USB ADSL router (using PPPoA) and am having on-going trouble connecting to newsgroups. Unfortunately, advice that I have received following earlier posts hasn`t resolved the problem and my ISP hasn`t been helpful at all. However, a recent virus scan showed that ntoskrnl.exe had "changed" and I wondered if that might have something to do with it? As I am not sure exactly what function this program has, apart from being essential during boot-up, I thought it might be worth asking... Thanks Kate "Kate" <@*slamaspam*.demon.co.uk> wrote in message You're apt to get most of the advice over again since you started a new news:ev8YhGIFHHA.5000@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... > Firstly, apologies for the multiple posting, but I wasn`t sure which > would be the most relevant group to use. > > I have IE6 with Outlook Express, a USB ADSL router (using PPPoA) and > am having on-going trouble connecting to newsgroups. Unfortunately, > advice that I have received following earlier posts hasn`t resolved > the problem and my ISP hasn`t been helpful at all. However, a recent > virus scan showed that ntoskrnl.exe had "changed" and I wondered if > that might have something to do with it? As I am not sure exactly > what function this program has, apart from being essential during > boot-up, I thought it might be worth asking... thread. Help with malware All MS-MVP Sites. http://aumha.org/a/parasite.htm http://aumha.org/a/quickfix.htm http://www.elephantboycomputers.com/page2.html#Removing_Malware http://mvps.org/winhelp2002/unwanted.htm http://inetexplorer.mvps.org/darnit.html http://www.mvps.org/sramesh2k/Malware_Defence.htm Unexplained computer behavior may be caused by deceptive software. http://support.microsoft.com/kb/827315 So How Did I Get Infected Anyway? For quite a few people it's by installing Messenger Plus, whose ads for malware don't identify the malware as such and try to convince you that you owe it to the author. See also: http://www.wilderssecurity.com/showthread.php?t=27971 Don't ever do a "default" install of anything. Always choose Custom and see what else is being carried along. Don't install any extras you're not sure of. Kate wrote on Thu, 30 Nov 2006 13:15:25 -0000:
Show quoteHide quote > Firstly, apologies for the multiple posting, but I wasn`t sure which Are you using AVG by any chance? And have you installed any MS patches > would be the most relevant group to use. > > I have IE6 with Outlook Express, a USB ADSL router (using PPPoA) and > am having on-going trouble connecting to newsgroups. Unfortunately, > advice that I have received following earlier posts hasn`t resolved > the problem and my ISP hasn`t been helpful at all. However, a recent > virus scan showed that ntoskrnl.exe had "changed" and I wondered if > that might have something to do with it? As I am not sure exactly > what function this program has, apart from being essential during > boot-up, I thought it might be worth asking... > > Thanks > Kate > recently? ntoskrnl.exe is the kernel image for Windows. It's a core part of the operating system, not just a boot process. If it goes missing or gets damaged Windows won't even run. While it's possible that something may be attempting to infect it, it's unlikely. It can be updated by MS patches, although the current version on my XP Pro SP2 machine is dated 2nd March 2005, have you recently installed Service Pack 2? Or at least since the last time you ran a virus scan? Dan
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"Daniel Crichton" <msn***@worldofspack.com> wrote in message news:%23InEjnJFHHA.1356@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... Kate's trouble is OE stating that no connection to the internet exists when> Kate wrote on Thu, 30 Nov 2006 13:15:25 -0000: > >> Firstly, apologies for the multiple posting, but I wasn`t sure which >> would be the most relevant group to use. >> >> I have IE6 with Outlook Express, a USB ADSL router (using PPPoA) and >> am having on-going trouble connecting to newsgroups. Unfortunately, >> advice that I have received following earlier posts hasn`t resolved >> the problem and my ISP hasn`t been helpful at all. However, a recent >> virus scan showed that ntoskrnl.exe had "changed" and I wondered if >> that might have something to do with it? As I am not sure exactly >> what function this program has, apart from being essential during >> boot-up, I thought it might be worth asking... >> >> Thanks >> Kate >> > > Are you using AVG by any chance? And have you installed any MS patches > recently? > > ntoskrnl.exe is the kernel image for Windows. It's a core part of the > operating system, not just a boot process. If it goes missing or gets > damaged Windows won't even run. > > While it's possible that something may be attempting to infect it, it's > unlikely. It can be updated by MS patches, although the current version on > my XP Pro SP2 machine is dated 2nd March 2005, have you recently installed > Service Pack 2? Or at least since the last time you ran a virus scan? > > Dan opening a newsgroup, when a connection does exist. I have this trouble, thought I'd fixed it, told her what I did, but it didn't work for either of us. In case her situation is different from mine, here is what I've got listed: ntoskrnl.exe 2,129 KB Application 3/1/2005 6:59 PM version 5.1.2600.2622 (xpsp_sp2_gdr.050301-1519)
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"Daniel Crichton" <msn***@worldofspack.com> wrote in message Yes, I use AVG Free, but without email scanning enabled, as I know itnews:%23InEjnJFHHA.1356@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... > Kate wrote on Thu, 30 Nov 2006 13:15:25 -0000: > >> Firstly, apologies for the multiple posting, but I wasn`t sure >> which would be the most relevant group to use. >> >> I have IE6 with Outlook Express, a USB ADSL router (using PPPoA) >> and >> am having on-going trouble connecting to newsgroups. Unfortunately, >> advice that I have received following earlier posts hasn`t resolved >> the problem and my ISP hasn`t been helpful at all. However, a >> recent >> virus scan showed that ntoskrnl.exe had "changed" and I wondered if >> that might have something to do with it? As I am not sure exactly >> what function this program has, apart from being essential during >> boot-up, I thought it might be worth asking... >> >> Thanks >> Kate >> > > Are you using AVG by any chance? And have you installed any MS > patches recently? > > ntoskrnl.exe is the kernel image for Windows. It's a core part of > the operating system, not just a boot process. If it goes missing or > gets damaged Windows won't even run. > > While it's possible that something may be attempting to infect it, > it's unlikely. It can be updated by MS patches, although the current > version on my XP Pro SP2 machine is dated 2nd March 2005, have you > recently installed Service Pack 2? Or at least since the last time > you ran a virus scan? > > Dan > can create many problems. I have had XP2 installed for ages (not long after it first became available, I think) and I regularly update. I last updated on 20 November, when I accepted IE7 (which I subsequently uninstalled), and the one before that was 16 October. The problem with connecting to NGs began around 16 November, when I cancelled a message on a newsserver. My version of ntoskrnl.exe is also 2 March 2005, BTW. It was a long shot that it was the cause of the connection difficulty, but at least I can probably eliminate it now, as everything else works fine. However, if I do need to replace it, I have SP2 on disk. Many thanks for the reply Kate Daniel Crichton schrieb am Thu, 30 Nov 2006 16:09:15 -0000:
> While it's possible that something may be attempting to infect it, it's Well, we don't know what virusscan revealed exactly which change and which > unlikely. the exact message and path to the file was, so it could just be some malware coming in disguise. She better asks about this in another newsgroup talking about malware. Kai
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"Kai Schaetzl" <k**@mvps.org.invalid> wrote in message The result of the scan said only that ntoskrnl.exe had changed, butnews:VA.00005125.03d1d4b5@news.conactive.com... > Daniel Crichton schrieb am Thu, 30 Nov 2006 16:09:15 -0000: > >> While it's possible that something may be attempting to infect it, >> it's >> unlikely. > > Well, we don't know what virusscan revealed exactly which change and > which > the exact message and path to the file was, so it could just be some > malware coming in disguise. She better asks about this in another > newsgroup talking about malware. > > Kai > -- > Helpsites about Windows: http://www.mvps.org > IE repair script: http://iefaq.info > not in what way. There was also the same result for kernel32.dll, user32.dll, and shell32.dll, and the path to all four is F:\WINDOWS\system32. I have carried out a malware scan with Ad-Aware with nothing found and also run Hijackthis where the results showed nothing that I was unable to recognise. It is perhaps a bit drastic, but would re-installing Outlook Express and/or IE6 be worth a try, do you think? If so, how would I go about it, please? Thanks Kate Kate schrieb am Thu, 30 Nov 2006 18:38:57 -0000:
> It is perhaps a bit drastic, but would re-installing Outlook Express No, there is nothing wrong it seems, apart from you having problems with > and/or IE6 be worth a try, do you think? If so, how would I go about > it, please? connecting to newsgroups. You should carry this problem to the OE6 newsgroup. They will ask you some diagnostic questions then I guess. You don't seem to have a problem connecting now. Kai
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"Kai Schaetzl" <k**@mvps.org.invalid> wrote in message Sorry, Kai, but I tried the OE6 NG first and they cannot help any news:VA.0000512b.0474a0ab@news.conactive.com... > Kate schrieb am Thu, 30 Nov 2006 18:38:57 -0000: > >> It is perhaps a bit drastic, but would re-installing Outlook >> Express >> and/or IE6 be worth a try, do you think? If so, how would I go >> about >> it, please? > > No, there is nothing wrong it seems, apart from you having problems > with > connecting to newsgroups. You should carry this problem to the OE6 > newsgroup. They will ask you some diagnostic questions then I guess. > You > don't seem to have a problem connecting now. > > Kai > -- > Helpsites about Windows: http://www.mvps.org > IE repair script: http://iefaq.info > more. There, I listed all the things I have tried - which are numerous. Contributors to ms.p.network-web and internetexplorer.general will also be familiar with my problem, I fear! Briefly, I get the message that no connection to the internet is available, but when I click "Retry", I get connected - hence my ability to post. It is not a major problem, I know, but inconvenient and - as Michael Jennings will no doubt agree - most irritating, and an indication that something is wrong that needs putting right. Thank you again for responding. Kate It has not been irritating enough to get me to reinstall OE.
To reinstall OE, modify the "IsInstalled" value data to zero and then connect to WU, according to the registry hack at http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?kbid=318378 There are other things the KB says to try first, but that one interests me, so for that reason and for your sake I'll try it and see if I'm able to report back to this thread. If there are any glitches or gotchas I will advise what to watch out for. Since the absurd notice is occasional, I won't know for sure when it departs that it won't occur. On the other hand, if it occurs even once I will know that it is still there. "Kate" <@*slamaspam*.demon.co.uk> wrote in message news:%23KZ4gVMFHHA.2468@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... <snip>Show quoteHide quote > Briefly, I get the message that no connection to the internet is > available, but when I click "Retry", I get connected - hence my > ability to post. It is not a major problem, I know, but inconvenient > and - as Michael Jennings will no doubt agree - most irritating, and > an indication that something is wrong that needs putting right. > > Thank you again for responding. > Kate > > Michael Jennings schrieb am Thu, 30 Nov 2006 16:44:29 -0600:
> To reinstall OE, modify the "IsInstalled" value data to zero Please don't do this with an installed IE7, uninstall it first!> and then connect to WU, according to the registry hack at > http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?kbid=318378 Kai "Kai Schaetzl" <k**@mvps.org.invalid> wrote in message news:VA.00005143.0c188ceb@news.conactive.com... They knocked that post off the server, Kai. I feel that I have> Michael Jennings schrieb am Thu, 30 Nov 2006 16:44:29 -0600: > >> To reinstall OE, modify the "IsInstalled" value data to zero >> and then connect to WU, according to the registry hack at >> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?kbid=318378 > > Please don't do this with an installed IE7, uninstall it first! been excused from doing the dirty deed to OE6, so I won't. Kate schrieb am Thu, 30 Nov 2006 21:20:19 -0000:
> Briefly, I get the message that no connection to the internet is Can you repro this *without* IE being open? e.g. Open IE7, make sure it is > available, but when I click "Retry", I get connected - hence my > ability to post. not in "work offline" mode, close it. Don't use it for some hours now. But use OE during that time. Does it still happen? How often does it happen? When (which actions) does it happen exactly? I remember you talked about anti-virus software. Did you already uninstall it? From your header I see that you are posting directly to msnews. msnews is slow and not reliable. Does your problem happen only with msnews? Kai
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"Kai Schaetzl" <k**@mvps.org.invalid> wrote in message news:VA.00005139.051c2725@news.conactive.com... She has IE6, Kai, as do I. I have only observed the behavior with msnews.> Kate schrieb am Thu, 30 Nov 2006 21:20:19 -0000: > >> Briefly, I get the message that no connection to the internet is >> available, but when I click "Retry", I get connected - hence my >> ability to post. > > Can you repro this *without* IE being open? e.g. Open IE7, make sure it is > not in "work offline" mode, close it. Don't use it for some hours now. But > use OE during that time. Does it still happen? How often does it happen? > When (which actions) does it happen exactly? I remember you talked about > anti-virus software. Did you already uninstall it? > From your header I see that you are posting directly to msnews. msnews is > slow and not reliable. Does your problem happen only with msnews? Michael Jennings schrieb am Thu, 30 Nov 2006 18:15:14 -0600:
> She has IE6, Kai, as do I. I have only observed the behavior with msnews. Then use other newsservers for comparison. I'm not astonished that you get a connection problem to msnews from time to time. I haven't been using it for years, it's about ten times slower as the one I use. There might *still* be a problem on your PC or down the line before the server, but you cannot use msnews for testing this. It's like testing a street with bumps for smooth driving. Kai "Kai Schaetzl" <k**@mvps.org.invalid> wrote in message news:VA.0000514f.05890a92@news.conactive.com... I am content to blame Microsoft's msnews server, and to click "retry," when> Michael Jennings schrieb am Thu, 30 Nov 2006 18:15:14 -0600: > >> She has IE6, Kai, as do I. I have only observed the behavior with msnews. > > Then use other newsservers for comparison. I'm not astonished that you get > a connection problem to msnews from time to time. I haven't been using it > for years, it's about ten times slower as the one I use. > There might *still* be a problem on your PC or down the line before the > server, but you cannot use msnews for testing this. It's like testing a > street with bumps for smooth driving. the no connection thing happens. That has yet to fail in coughing up the posts. I'll keep an eye out for the behavior occurring with other news servers.
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"Kai Schaetzl" <k**@mvps.org.invalid> wrote in message Kai : I don`t usually have both IE (I use v.6, having taken an instantnews:VA.00005139.051c2725@news.conactive.com... > Kate schrieb am Thu, 30 Nov 2006 21:20:19 -0000: > >> Briefly, I get the message that no connection to the internet is >> available, but when I click "Retry", I get connected - hence my >> ability to post. > > Can you repro this *without* IE being open? e.g. Open IE7, make sure > it is not in "work offline" mode, close it. Don't use it for some > hours now. But use OE during that time. Does it still happen? How > often does it happen? When (which actions) does it happen exactly? I > remember you talked about anti-virus software. Did you already > uninstall it? From your header I see that you are posting directly > to msnews. msnews is slow and not reliable. Does your problem happen > only with msnews? > > Kai > -- > Helpsites about Windows: http://www.mvps.org > IE repair script: http://iefaq.info > dislike to v.7 - too "tricksy" for me) and OE6 open at the same time - it`s either one or the other. I never get this message in IE, nor when I click Send/Receive in OE; it only happens when I first click a newsgroup, not just in msnews but with the two other newsservers I use as well. If I close OE and then re-open it within about 5 minutes, everything works fine. If I leave it longer, then up pops the message again. I gave a full description of ways I have tried to rectify this in my post entitled "It may be coincidental, but since uninstalling IE7..." dated 25 November, posted to ms.p.internetexplorer.general and then copied to ms.p.windowsxp.network_web. BTW, I used to use my ISP`s newsserver rather than msnews, until I read that msnews was quicker and kept messages on the server for longer. I use AVG Free and keep it updated every day since the computer was new 2 1/2 years ago. Frank : I just wanted to eliminate ntoskrnl.exe from my enquiries, as it were, rather than resurrect my previous threads. I am generally very wary about installing downloaded software, and always save it to file and get AVG to scan it before installing - although that won`t prevent malware, I guess. Also, I don`t use Messenger or Windows Messenger and have no idea what Messenger Plus is! Michael : I`m not keen on a re-install, either, but as I get the notice every time I try to get to a newsgroup, rather than occasionally, I don`t know how long my patience will last. But I`ll keep my fingers crossed that you can find a resolution. I am not sufficiently experienced to try anything too ambitious without step-by-step guidance by someone knowledgeable. Good luck! Many thanks to all Kate "Kate" <@*slamaspam*.demon.co.uk> wrote in message news:uNe8RjOFHHA.3616@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... Well, the registry hack is for XP sp1, and I found that it didn't work> Michael : I`m not keen on a re-install, either, but as I get the > notice every time I try to get to a newsgroup, rather than > occasionally, I don`t know how long my patience will last. But I`ll > keep my fingers crossed that you can find a resolution. I am not > sufficiently experienced to try anything too ambitious without > step-by-step guidance by someone knowledgeable. Good luck! for XP sp2, for which you are supposed to reinstall service pack 2 in order to reinstall Outlook Express 6, then get the WU updates. The IE6 setup file did not accept the "IsInstalled" value data zero, either for OE alone or for both IE and OE. Windows, however, "saw" the "uninstallations" and offered to remove personal settings (which I accepted) after each of the two reboots. I am using the so-called uninstalled OE6 to make this post. Sorry to fade on you, Kate, but "live with it" beats out reinstalling SP2 for me.
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"Michael Jennings" <metarh***@gmail.com> wrote in message Although I have always had e-mail scanning turned off in AVG Free, onnews:%2389XyVPFHHA.1188@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... > "Kate" <@*slamaspam*.demon.co.uk> wrote in message > news:uNe8RjOFHHA.3616@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >> Michael : I`m not keen on a re-install, either, but as I get the >> notice every time I try to get to a newsgroup, rather than >> occasionally, I don`t know how long my patience will last. But >> I`ll >> keep my fingers crossed that you can find a resolution. I am not >> sufficiently experienced to try anything too ambitious without >> step-by-step guidance by someone knowledgeable. Good luck! > > Well, the registry hack is for XP sp1, and I found that it didn't > work > for XP sp2, for which you are supposed to reinstall service pack 2 > in order to reinstall Outlook Express 6, then get the WU updates. > The IE6 setup file did not accept the "IsInstalled" value data zero, > either for OE alone or for both IE and OE. Windows, however, > "saw" the "uninstallations" and offered to remove personal settings > (which I accepted) after each of the two reboots. I am using the > so-called uninstalled OE6 to make this post. Sorry to fade on you, > Kate, but "live with it" beats out reinstalling SP2 for me. > > Thursday night I disabled it in Manage/Services & Applications and, lo! no more tiresome message re `no connection available`. Coincidence maybe? Kate
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"Kate" <@*slamaspam*.demon.co.uk> wrote in message That very well could be the answer because with AVG, just unchecking e-mail news:%23B0%23RDiFHHA.420@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... > > "Michael Jennings" <metarh***@gmail.com> wrote in message > news:%2389XyVPFHHA.1188@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... >> "Kate" <@*slamaspam*.demon.co.uk> wrote in message >> news:uNe8RjOFHHA.3616@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >>> Michael : I`m not keen on a re-install, either, but as I get the >>> notice every time I try to get to a newsgroup, rather than >>> occasionally, I don`t know how long my patience will last. But >>> I`ll >>> keep my fingers crossed that you can find a resolution. I am not >>> sufficiently experienced to try anything too ambitious without >>> step-by-step guidance by someone knowledgeable. Good luck! >> >> Well, the registry hack is for XP sp1, and I found that it didn't >> work >> for XP sp2, for which you are supposed to reinstall service pack 2 >> in order to reinstall Outlook Express 6, then get the WU updates. >> The IE6 setup file did not accept the "IsInstalled" value data zero, >> either for OE alone or for both IE and OE. Windows, however, >> "saw" the "uninstallations" and offered to remove personal settings >> (which I accepted) after each of the two reboots. I am using the >> so-called uninstalled OE6 to make this post. Sorry to fade on you, >> Kate, but "live with it" beats out reinstalling SP2 for me. >> >> > > Although I have always had e-mail scanning turned off in AVG Free, on > Thursday night I disabled it in Manage/Services & Applications and, > lo! no more tiresome message re `no connection available`. > Coincidence maybe? > > Kate > > > scanning is not enough. Reinstall AVG and choose Custom Mode. Uncheck E-mail Scanning when you see that option. For some reason, just unchecking it in the security center causes a conflict with the Windows Security Center. BTW. Have you upgraded to version 7.5? 7.1 will no longer support updated for new Trojans. I have 7.5 and cannot see Manage/Services & Applications. Where was that? -- Bruce Hagen MS-MVP Outlook Express ~IB-CA~
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"Bruce Hagen" <Nospam@mymail.invalid> wrote in message I have version 7.5.430. In Manage/Services & Applications/Services,news:OdvRoeiFHHA.3616@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... > > "Kate" <@*slamaspam*.demon.co.uk> wrote in message > news:%23B0%23RDiFHHA.420@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... >> >> "Michael Jennings" <metarh***@gmail.com> wrote in message >> news:%2389XyVPFHHA.1188@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... >>> "Kate" <@*slamaspam*.demon.co.uk> wrote in message >>> news:uNe8RjOFHHA.3616@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >>>> Michael : I`m not keen on a re-install, either, but as I get the >>>> notice every time I try to get to a newsgroup, rather than >>>> occasionally, I don`t know how long my patience will last. But >>>> I`ll >>>> keep my fingers crossed that you can find a resolution. I am not >>>> sufficiently experienced to try anything too ambitious without >>>> step-by-step guidance by someone knowledgeable. Good luck! >>> >>> Well, the registry hack is for XP sp1, and I found that it didn't >>> work >>> for XP sp2, for which you are supposed to reinstall service pack 2 >>> in order to reinstall Outlook Express 6, then get the WU updates. >>> The IE6 setup file did not accept the "IsInstalled" value data >>> zero, >>> either for OE alone or for both IE and OE. Windows, however, >>> "saw" the "uninstallations" and offered to remove personal >>> settings >>> (which I accepted) after each of the two reboots. I am using the >>> so-called uninstalled OE6 to make this post. Sorry to fade on you, >>> Kate, but "live with it" beats out reinstalling SP2 for me. >>> >> >> Although I have always had e-mail scanning turned off in AVG Free, >> on >> Thursday night I disabled it in Manage/Services & Applications and, >> lo! no more tiresome message re `no connection available`. >> Coincidence maybe? >> >> Kate > > That very well could be the answer because with AVG, just unchecking > e-mail scanning is not enough. > > Reinstall AVG and choose Custom Mode. Uncheck E-mail Scanning when > you see that option. For some reason, just unchecking it in the > security center causes a conflict with the Windows Security Center. > > BTW. Have you upgraded to version 7.5? 7.1 will no longer support > updated for new Trojans. I have 7.5 and cannot see Manage/Services & > Applications. Where was that? > -- > Bruce Hagen > MS-MVP Outlook Express > ~IB-CA~ it is the first AVG item, but if you unchecked E-mail Scanning when you installed the AVG upgrade, I guess it won`t be there. As I remember it, my problem with the "no connection available" notice began around 16 November. I have just looked in Programs/Grisoft/AVG Free folder, right-clicked an .exe file to access Properties and the date I installed it was 15 November, so it seems logical to assume that the e-mail scanning settings of the upgraded program was the cause, as with version 7.1 I had no such problems when it was just disabled in AVG. I wish I had thought of it two weeks ago! Kate Bruce Hagen schrieb am Sat, 2 Dec 2006 07:36:48 -0800:
> Manage/Services & Applications. She talks about My Computer/Manage.Kai Kate schrieb am Sat, 2 Dec 2006 14:47:30 -0000:
> Although I have always had e-mail scanning turned off in AVG Free, on What did I tell you about the quick route? ;-)> Thursday night I disabled it in Manage/Services & Applications and, > lo! no more tiresome message re `no connection available`. > Coincidence maybe? And remember, nntp is not email. Apart from that, you cannot even be sure that the anti-virus program really doesn't touch your email or any other whereabouts of the email program if you switch "email scanning" off. It's a matter of definition and how the scanning works. Kai
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"Kai Schaetzl" <k**@mvps.org.invalid> wrote in message I did not know that AVG E-mail Scanning was listed in Services, Kai! news:VA.00005189.0de75758@news.conactive.com... > Kate schrieb am Sat, 2 Dec 2006 14:47:30 -0000: > >> Although I have always had e-mail scanning turned off in AVG Free, >> on >> Thursday night I disabled it in Manage/Services & Applications and, >> lo! no more tiresome message re `no connection available`. >> Coincidence maybe? > > What did I tell you about the quick route? ;-) > And remember, nntp is not email. Apart from that, you cannot even be > sure > that the anti-virus program really doesn't touch your email or any > other > whereabouts of the email program if you switch "email scanning" off. > It's > a matter of definition and how the scanning works. > > Kai > -- > Helpsites about Windows: http://www.mvps.org > IE repair script: http://iefaq.info > It was only when I was considering stopping DNS again that I noticed it there. Disabling the plug-in in AVG always worked before with v.7.1 (see my reply to Bruce Hagen). Kate "Kate" <@*slamaspam*.demon.co.uk> wrote in message news:%23B0%23RDiFHHA.420@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... I suppose, Kate, I could disable F-StopW to see if it is guilty of causing> Although I have always had e-mail scanning turned off in AVG Free, on > Thursday night I disabled it in Manage/Services & Applications and, > lo! no more tiresome message re `no connection available`. > Coincidence maybe? that behavior on my machine. I pay Iceland once each year for F-Prot. Overzealous protective programs are the most likely culprits in the IE7 newsgroup reports of dysfunction. Coincidence unlikely. Congratulations! 
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