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Home Network & BroadbandBefore broadband we had two machines here at home networked via a Cat5 cable
(that's what we call them in the UK). It worked well. When we got Broadband we used the cable to connect both machines to a router and share the connection ok. Is it still possible to enjoy the facilities of networking - like sharing printers and accessing each other's hard drives - I have not been able to achieve this. Any help appreciated, Noel Noel S Pamfree wrote:
> Before broadband we had two machines here at home networked via a Cat5 Yes, most certainly you can share files/printers. You just need to> cable (that's what we call them in the UK). It worked well. > > When we got Broadband we used the cable to connect both machines to a > router and share the connection ok. > > Is it still possible to enjoy the facilities of networking - like > sharing printers and accessing each other's hard drives - I have not > been able to achieve this. create your local area network. Run the Network Setup Wizard on all computers, making sure to enable File & Printer Sharing, and reboot. The only "gotcha" is that this will turn on the XPSP2 Windows Firewall. If you aren't running a third-party firewall or have an antivirus with "Internet Worm Protection" (like Norton 2005/06) which acts as a firewall, then you're fine. If you have third-party firewall software, configure it to allow the Local Area Network traffic as trusted. I usually do this with my firewalls with an IP range. Ex. would be 192.168.1.0-192.168.1.254. Obviously you would substitute your correct subnet. If one or more of the computers is XP Pro or Media Center: a. If you need Pro's ability to set fine-grained permissions, turn off Simple File Sharing (Folder Options>View tab) and create identical user accounts/passwords on all computers. b. If you don't care about using Pro's advanced features, leave the Simple File Sharing enabled. Simple File Sharing means that Guest (network) is enabled. This means that anyone without a user account on the target system can use its resources. This is a security hole but only you can decide if it matters in your situation. Then create shares as desired. XP Home does not permit sharing of users' home directories (My Documents) or Program Files, but you can share folders inside those directories. A better choice is to simply use the Shared Documents folder. If that doesn't work for you, here is an excellent network troubleshooter by MVP Hans-Georg Michna. Take the time to go through it and it will usually pinpoint the problem area(s) - http://winhlp.com/wxnet.htm Malke If your computers were connected directly to each other with the cable, you
will have to use different cables as the direct connect cable is a crossover cable. Show quoteHide quote "Noel S Pamfree" <Noel.spamfree@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:%23SCeKkYFHHA.2468@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... > Before broadband we had two machines here at home networked via a Cat5 > cable > (that's what we call them in the UK). It worked well. > > When we got Broadband we used the cable to connect both machines to a > router > and share the connection ok. > > Is it still possible to enjoy the facilities of networking - like sharing > printers and accessing each other's hard drives - I have not been able to > achieve this. > > Any help appreciated, > > Noel > > So that's why it doesn't work - I forgot we used a cross-over cable
originally. The problem is both the pc and the laptop only have one socket for the network cable. Noel Show quoteHide quote "Shaun" <snog***@woh.chicken.com> wrote in message news:So6ch.1514$Ye5.248@tornado.ohiordc.rr.com... > If your computers were connected directly to each other with the cable, > you will have to use different cables as the direct connect cable is a > crossover cable. > > "Noel S Pamfree" <Noel.spamfree@hotmail.com> wrote in message > news:%23SCeKkYFHHA.2468@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... >> Before broadband we had two machines here at home networked via a Cat5 >> cable >> (that's what we call them in the UK). It worked well. >> >> When we got Broadband we used the cable to connect both machines to a >> router >> and share the connection ok. >> >> Is it still possible to enjoy the facilities of networking - like sharing >> printers and accessing each other's hard drives - I have not been able to >> achieve this. >> >> Any help appreciated, >> >> Noel >> >> > > Noel S Pamfree wrote:
> So that's why it doesn't work - I forgot we used a cross-over cable I thought you said you had a router. You need a router. See this link> originally. > > The problem is both the pc and the laptop only have one socket for the > network cable. for good basic information about network setup: Linksys Learning Center - http://tinyurl.com/8ka4w Naturally, you don't need to purchase Linksys equipment. I just think this site helps visualize network setup. Malke Hi,
Thanks for the link. We do have a router - a Netgear DG834. Before we had it we just set up a home network by running the network wizard. We connected the two machines with a cross-over cable and shared our Dial-up internet connection, printers and files on each others hard disks. The cross-over cable used the only network socket on the back of the pc and the single socket on the laptop. Now we use each of these single sockets to connect each machine to the router. My problem is I can't see how we could set up the network again (or re-use what is already there) as there is only a single socket in each machine and we need that to connect to the router in order to have an Internet connection. I'm not sure if I'm making sense as it's a bit difficult to explain! Noel Show quoteHide quote "Malke" <notreally@invalid.invalid> wrote in message news:uiypZZhFHHA.1216@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... > Noel S Pamfree wrote: > >> So that's why it doesn't work - I forgot we used a cross-over cable >> originally. >> >> The problem is both the pc and the laptop only have one socket for the >> network cable. > > I thought you said you had a router. You need a router. See this link > for good basic information about network setup: > > Linksys Learning Center - http://tinyurl.com/8ka4w > > Naturally, you don't need to purchase Linksys equipment. I just think > this site helps visualize network setup. > > Malke > -- > Elephant Boy Computers > www.elephantboycomputers.com > "Don't Panic!" > MS-MVP Windows - Shell/User Noel S Pamfree wrote:
Show quoteHide quote > Hi, No, you're not making sense. Please go to the website I gave you for> > Thanks for the link. > > We do have a router - a Netgear DG834. Before we had it we just set up > a home network by running the network wizard. We connected the two > machines with a cross-over cable and shared our Dial-up internet > connection, printers > and files on each others hard disks. The cross-over cable used the > only network socket on the back of the pc and the single socket on the > laptop. Now we use each of these single sockets to connect each > machine to the router. > > My problem is I can't see how we could set up the network again (or > re-use what is already there) as there is only a single socket in each > machine and we need that to connect to the router in order to have an > Internet connection. > > I'm not sure if I'm making sense as it's a bit difficult to explain! pictures of how to network. Basically you will have: cable/dsl modem --->Netgear router via one ethernet cable from modem to router Router will normally have 4 (or more) ports for computer connections. Router ---->computer via one ethernet cable from router to computer's network adapter. The ethernet cables used in all cases above will not be crossover; they will be standard straight-through cat5e ethernet cables. The router makes the Internet connection to the cable/dsl modem and then "turns around" and passes out private IP addresses to all the computers on the local area network ("lan"). Hence, all the computers on the lan can have Internet access and also share files/printers with each other. Malke Thanks!
I think my confusion was caused because my Netgear Router has the modem built into it (4-products-in-1: Modem, Router, Firewall & 4 port switch). Noel Show quoteHide quote "Malke" <notreally@invalid.invalid> wrote in message news:eTJbajjFHHA.2268@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... > Noel S Pamfree wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> Thanks for the link. >> >> We do have a router - a Netgear DG834. Before we had it we just set up >> a home network by running the network wizard. We connected the two >> machines with a cross-over cable and shared our Dial-up internet >> connection, printers >> and files on each others hard disks. The cross-over cable used the >> only network socket on the back of the pc and the single socket on the >> laptop. Now we use each of these single sockets to connect each >> machine to the router. >> >> My problem is I can't see how we could set up the network again (or >> re-use what is already there) as there is only a single socket in each >> machine and we need that to connect to the router in order to have an >> Internet connection. >> >> I'm not sure if I'm making sense as it's a bit difficult to explain! > > No, you're not making sense. Please go to the website I gave you for > pictures of how to network. > > Basically you will have: > > cable/dsl modem --->Netgear router via one ethernet cable from modem to > router > > Router will normally have 4 (or more) ports for computer connections. > Router ---->computer via one ethernet cable from router to computer's > network adapter. > > The ethernet cables used in all cases above will not be crossover; they > will be standard straight-through cat5e ethernet cables. > > The router makes the Internet connection to the cable/dsl modem and then > "turns around" and passes out private IP addresses to all the computers > on the local area network ("lan"). Hence, all the computers on the lan > can have Internet access and also share files/printers with each other. > > Malke > -- > Elephant Boy Computers > www.elephantboycomputers.com > "Don't Panic!" > MS-MVP Windows - Shell/User Noel S Pamfree wrote:
> Thanks! Fine, it's still the same concept. If you have cable service, there is a> > I think my confusion was caused because my Netgear Router has the > modem built into it (4-products-in-1: Modem, Router, Firewall & 4 port > switch). coax cable going to the wall from the modem/router. If you have DSL, the DSL cable goes to the wall telephone jack. Each computer has an ethernet cable going from each computer's network adapter to one of the ports on the modem/router. I'm not familiar with that particular modem/router but most are clearly labeled on the back as to "Internet" or "DSL" and "LAN". Malke Hi
The single socket that you see is Not the Router's connection. It is the socket of the Network card that you have in your computer/s and it serving for any Network connection. When the socket is getting the address of the Router it would connect to the Router when it is getting the address of another computer it would connect to another computer (it is like a car its goes to were you want it to go). So there is No difference in the File Sharing whether the Router is part of the Network or Not. Just configure each computer for File Sharing and leave the sockets as is. Successful Sharing involves some general consideration in Network settings, http://www.ezlan.net/sharing.html As well as specific adjustment of each computer according to what is allowed to be shared. http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/winxppro/maintain/filesharing.mspx http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;304040 Jack (MVP-Networking). Show quoteHide quote "Noel S Pamfree" <Noel.spamfree@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:eXXiFHjFHHA.4636@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... > Hi, > > Thanks for the link. > > We do have a router - a Netgear DG834. Before we had it we just set up a > home network by running the network wizard. We connected the two machines > with a cross-over cable and shared our Dial-up internet connection, > printers and files on each others hard disks. The cross-over cable used > the only network socket on the back of the pc and the single socket on the > laptop. Now we use each of these single sockets to connect each machine to > the router. > > My problem is I can't see how we could set up the network again (or re-use > what is already there) as there is only a single socket in each machine > and we need that to connect to the router in order to have an Internet > connection. > > I'm not sure if I'm making sense as it's a bit difficult to explain! > > Noel > > > "Malke" <notreally@invalid.invalid> wrote in message > news:uiypZZhFHHA.1216@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >> Noel S Pamfree wrote: >> >>> So that's why it doesn't work - I forgot we used a cross-over cable >>> originally. >>> >>> The problem is both the pc and the laptop only have one socket for the >>> network cable. >> >> I thought you said you had a router. You need a router. See this link >> for good basic information about network setup: >> >> Linksys Learning Center - http://tinyurl.com/8ka4w >> >> Naturally, you don't need to purchase Linksys equipment. I just think >> this site helps visualize network setup. >> >> Malke >> -- >> Elephant Boy Computers >> www.elephantboycomputers.com >> "Don't Panic!" >> MS-MVP Windows - Shell/User > > 
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