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Strange ProblemI have a D-Link WBR-1310 Wireless Router
I am able to connect to the internet throughout the whole day but I am unable to connect to the internet in the morning after a few hours on inactivity. I am able to connect to the internet if the cable goes from the modem to the computer's nic card. I can after a few seconds connected from the modem to the nic card and than transfer the cable from the modem to router and than put back the cable from the router to the nic card, it works fine. Is there a setting that I am forgetting to change so the router does not do this because it will be a pain to do this every single day? I had to do this for the 3 mornings I had this router. Thanks Dan This is usually a sign of a bad router, when they need to be reset
periodically. Dan Sgambelluri wrote: Show quoteHide quote > I have a D-Link WBR-1310 Wireless Router > > I am able to connect to the internet throughout the whole day but I am > unable to connect to the internet in the morning after a few hours on > inactivity. I am able to connect to the internet if the cable goes from > the modem to the computer's nic card. I can after a few seconds > connected from the modem to the nic card and than transfer the cable > from the modem to router and than put back the cable from the router to > the nic card, it works fine. > > Is there a setting that I am forgetting to change so the router does not > do this because it will be a pain to do this every single day? I had to > do this for the 3 mornings I had this router. > > Thanks > Dan Barry Watzman wrote:
Show quoteHide quote > This is usually a sign of a bad router, when they need to be reset just to be sure, you said a bad router like a bad batch or bad router > periodically. > > > Dan Sgambelluri wrote: >> I have a D-Link WBR-1310 Wireless Router >> >> I am able to connect to the internet throughout the whole day but I am >> unable to connect to the internet in the morning after a few hours on >> inactivity. I am able to connect to the internet if the cable goes >> from the modem to the computer's nic card. I can after a few seconds >> connected from the modem to the nic card and than transfer the cable >> from the modem to router and than put back the cable from the router >> to the nic card, it works fine. >> >> Is there a setting that I am forgetting to change so the router does >> not do this because it will be a pain to do this every single day? I >> had to do this for the 3 mornings I had this router. >> >> Thanks >> Dan like router series is crap and get a different type? Thanks Dan Bad router as in your particular router is no longer totally reliable.
This does not mean that another router of the exact same model would necessarily have the same problem. However, my one-year failure rate with the low cost routers has been terrible, I've gone through one to two dozen since I started doing this in the late 1990's. I've had more problems with Linksys than with D-Link, and while I used to recommend Linksys, I no longer am able to do so. I see both failures "out of the box", and also what is more troubling is failures that develop after 3 to 12 months. These are not "hard failures" .... the routers work, superficially. But they "lock up" and need to be reset periodically (anywhere from every few hours to every few days). If a router can't work reliably for weeks at a time without locking up and needing to be reset, it has a problem. And this kind of unreliability is especially unacceptable if you have Internet phone service (as we do). Dan Sgambelluri wrote: Show quoteHide quote > Barry Watzman wrote: >> This is usually a sign of a bad router, when they need to be reset >> periodically. >> >> >> Dan Sgambelluri wrote: >>> I have a D-Link WBR-1310 Wireless Router >>> >>> I am able to connect to the internet throughout the whole day but I >>> am unable to connect to the internet in the morning after a few hours >>> on inactivity. I am able to connect to the internet if the cable >>> goes from the modem to the computer's nic card. I can after a few >>> seconds connected from the modem to the nic card and than transfer >>> the cable from the modem to router and than put back the cable from >>> the router to the nic card, it works fine. >>> >>> Is there a setting that I am forgetting to change so the router does >>> not do this because it will be a pain to do this every single day? I >>> had to do this for the 3 mornings I had this router. >>> >>> Thanks >>> Dan > just to be sure, you said a bad router like a bad batch or bad router > like router series is crap and get a different type? > > Thanks > Dan Barry Watzman wrote:
Show quoteHide quote > Bad router as in your particular router is no longer totally reliable. Do you recommend any non cheap low cost wireless router?> This does not mean that another router of the exact same model would > necessarily have the same problem. > > However, my one-year failure rate with the low cost routers has been > terrible, I've gone through one to two dozen since I started doing this > in the late 1990's. I've had more problems with Linksys than with > D-Link, and while I used to recommend Linksys, I no longer am able to do > so. I see both failures "out of the box", and also what is more > troubling is failures that develop after 3 to 12 months. These are not > "hard failures" .... the routers work, superficially. But they "lock > up" and need to be reset periodically (anywhere from every few hours to > every few days). If a router can't work reliably for weeks at a time > without locking up and needing to be reset, it has a problem. And this > kind of unreliability is especially unacceptable if you have Internet > phone service (as we do). > > Thanks Dan Barry:
I wonder if this is a newer phenomenon. I've had my router for about 18 months and only once did i have to reset it. Mel Show quoteHide quote "Barry Watzman" <WatzmanNOSPAM@neo.rr.com> wrote in message news:459538a5$0$27072$4c368faf@roadrunner.com... > Bad router as in your particular router is no longer totally reliable. > This does not mean that another router of the exact same model would > necessarily have the same problem. > > However, my one-year failure rate with the low cost routers has been > terrible, I've gone through one to two dozen since I started doing this in > the late 1990's. I've had more problems with Linksys than with D-Link, > and while I used to recommend Linksys, I no longer am able to do so. I > see both failures "out of the box", and also what is more troubling is > failures that develop after 3 to 12 months. These are not "hard failures" > .... the routers work, superficially. But they "lock up" and need to be > reset periodically (anywhere from every few hours to every few days). If > a router can't work reliably for weeks at a time without locking up and > needing to be reset, it has a problem. And this kind of unreliability is > especially unacceptable if you have Internet phone service (as we do). > > > Dan Sgambelluri wrote: >> Barry Watzman wrote: >>> This is usually a sign of a bad router, when they need to be reset >>> periodically. >>> >>> >>> Dan Sgambelluri wrote: >>>> I have a D-Link WBR-1310 Wireless Router >>>> >>>> I am able to connect to the internet throughout the whole day but I am >>>> unable to connect to the internet in the morning after a few hours on >>>> inactivity. I am able to connect to the internet if the cable goes >>>> from the modem to the computer's nic card. I can after a few seconds >>>> connected from the modem to the nic card and than transfer the cable >>>> from the modem to router and than put back the cable from the router to >>>> the nic card, it works fine. >>>> >>>> Is there a setting that I am forgetting to change so the router does >>>> not do this because it will be a pain to do this every single day? I >>>> had to do this for the 3 mornings I had this router. >>>> >>>> Thanks >>>> Dan >> just to be sure, you said a bad router like a bad batch or bad router >> like router series is crap and get a different type? >> >> Thanks >> Dan
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"Barry Watzman" <WatzmanNOSPAM@neo.rr.com> wrote in message I had just the other problem. Because my model was D-Link, I thought that I news:459538a5$0$27072$4c368faf@roadrunner.com... > Bad router as in your particular router is no longer totally reliable. > This does not mean that another router of the exact same model would > necessarily have the same problem. > > However, my one-year failure rate with the low cost routers has been > terrible, I've gone through one to two dozen since I started doing this in > the late 1990's. I've had more problems with Linksys than with D-Link, > and while I used to recommend Linksys, I no longer am able to do so. I > see both failures "out of the box", and also what is more troubling is > failures that develop after 3 to 12 months. These are not "hard failures" > .... the routers work, superficially. But they "lock up" and need to be > reset periodically (anywhere from every few hours to every few days). If > a router can't work reliably for weeks at a time without locking up and > needing to be reset, it has a problem. And this kind of unreliability is > especially unacceptable if you have Internet phone service (as we do). > > > Dan Sgambelluri wrote: >> Barry Watzman wrote: >>> This is usually a sign of a bad router, when they need to be reset >>> periodically. >>> >>> >>> Dan Sgambelluri wrote: >>>> I have a D-Link WBR-1310 Wireless Router >>>> >>>> I am able to connect to the internet throughout the whole day but I am >>>> unable to connect to the internet in the morning after a few hours on >>>> inactivity. I am able to connect to the internet if the cable goes >>>> from the modem to the computer's nic card. I can after a few seconds >>>> connected from the modem to the nic card and than transfer the cable >>>> from the modem to router and than put back the cable from the router to >>>> the nic card, it works fine. >>>> >>>> Is there a setting that I am forgetting to change so the router does >>>> not do this because it will be a pain to do this every single day? I >>>> had to do this for the 3 mornings I had this router. >>>> >>>> Thanks >>>> Dan >> just to be sure, you said a bad router like a bad batch or bad router >> like router series is crap and get a different type? >> >> Thanks >> Dan would stick with them for the router. Over a 2 day period of time, I went through 3 routers that did not work. I talked with technical support for each of them and the techs said that the router was the problem. Picked up a Linksys WRT54G and it worked like a charm. It actually set itself up with a CD. Never had a problem with it in the 2 years that I used it. I have heard that setting up wireless networks can be a pain, but is wasn't with the Linksys. Before you scrap the router, have your ISP check your modem for resets. My
network was experiencing the same symptoms. Two routers later, I called the cable company and they reported my 6 year old Toshiba was resetting 300 times a day according to their logs. "Dan Sgambelluri" <dsgambell***@shaw.ca> wrote in message news:_aalh.529582$1T2.483660@pd7urf2no...Show quoteHide quote > Barry Watzman wrote: >> This is usually a sign of a bad router, when they need to be reset >> periodically. >> >> >> Dan Sgambelluri wrote: >>> I have a D-Link WBR-1310 Wireless Router >>> >>> I am able to connect to the internet throughout the whole day but I am >>> unable to connect to the internet in the morning after a few hours on >>> inactivity. I am able to connect to the internet if the cable goes from >>> the modem to the computer's nic card. I can after a few seconds >>> connected from the modem to the nic card and than transfer the cable >>> from the modem to router and than put back the cable from the router to >>> the nic card, it works fine. >>> >>> Is there a setting that I am forgetting to change so the router does not >>> do this because it will be a pain to do this every single day? I had to >>> do this for the 3 mornings I had this router. >>> >>> Thanks >>> Dan > just to be sure, you said a bad router like a bad batch or bad router like > router series is crap and get a different type? > > Thanks > Dan SPD wrote:
> Before you scrap the router, have your ISP check your modem for resets. My What did your ISP do after you contacted them. Did the replace the > network was experiencing the same symptoms. Two routers later, I called the > cable company and they reported my 6 year old Toshiba was resetting 300 > times a day according to their logs. > modem, fixed the modem from their end, have a tech come to your place to fix it? Was your modem bought or rented? Thanks Dan > I have a D-Link WBR-1310 Wireless Router I'll start by saying i'm no expert :-}> I am able to connect to the internet throughout the whole day but I am > unable to connect to the internet in the morning after a few hours on > inactivity. Check for the IP lease length time - you might need to bump it as high as possible There may be a setting to drop the connection after a period of inactivity - have a good look around the settings ! It sounds like the computer itself isn't connecting, rather than the router being an issue here - almost as if it isn't using the wireless side by default until its managed to get "out" via the NIC - not sure what you might be able to check to try to force it to connect via wireless though :-( Rather than connecting the modem to the computers' NIC, how about trying to connect it to a port on the router, and go into the config from there, see if it thinks its connected at that stage. Colin Wilson wrote:
>> I have a D-Link WBR-1310 Wireless Router It says 10080 minutes. I change it to all 9s and see if that helps.>> I am able to connect to the internet throughout the whole day but I am >> unable to connect to the internet in the morning after a few hours on >> inactivity. > > I'll start by saying i'm no expert :-} > > Check for the IP lease length time - you might need to bump it as high > as possible > > There may be a setting to drop the connection after a period of I hope that is it but I can't find it.> inactivity - have a good look around the settings ! > I don't understand, can you explain it even easier terms.> It sounds like the computer itself isn't connecting, rather than the > router being an issue here - almost as if it isn't using the wireless > side by default until its managed to get "out" via the NIC - not sure > what you might be able to check to try to force it to connect via > wireless though :-( > > Rather than connecting the modem to the computers' NIC, how about trying > to connect it to a port on the router, and go into the config from > there, see if it thinks its connected at that stage. I connect the cable modem to the router than to the computer's NIC first and it works fine until the morning than it does not work. I than unplug the modem cable that is connected to the router and plug it into the computer's NIC after I removed the cable that is connect from the router to the computer's NIC. I am able to get onto the net. I can than re I do not have wireless on my computer's NIC. It is a wired one. Thanks Dan > I don't understand, can you explain it even easier terms. Apologies (and for the cross posting, i`m in alt.sys.pc-clone.dell so > I connect the cable modem to the router than to the computer's NIC first > and it works fine until the morning than it does not work. I than > unplug the modem cable that is connected to the router and plug it into > the computer's NIC after I removed the cable that is connect from the > router to the computer's NIC. I am able to get onto the net. I can than re > I do not have wireless on my computer's NIC. It is a wired one. i'll restrict my posts to that group after this one) if I misunderstood your position - I thought you had a wireless PC / laptop, but it wouldn't connect wirelessly unless you first connected via direct cable connection. I'm afraid my answer to this is short - not a clue :-} Colin Wilson wrote:
Show quoteHide quote >> I don't understand, can you explain it even easier terms. I just got my wireless laptop today, however the problem is for my wired >> I connect the cable modem to the router than to the computer's NIC first >> and it works fine until the morning than it does not work. I than >> unplug the modem cable that is connected to the router and plug it into >> the computer's NIC after I removed the cable that is connect from the >> router to the computer's NIC. I am able to get onto the net. I can than re >> I do not have wireless on my computer's NIC. It is a wired one. > > Apologies (and for the cross posting, i`m in alt.sys.pc-clone.dell so > i'll restrict my posts to that group after this one) if I misunderstood > your position - I thought you had a wireless PC / laptop, but it > wouldn't connect wirelessly unless you first connected via direct cable > connection. > > I'm afraid my answer to this is short - not a clue :-} computer for now, we will see tomorrow if my laptop has this problem as well. Thanks though Dan it doesnt sound like this problem is being diagnosed properly.
you say you "cannot connect to the internet" but that is clearly not enough info for anyone to go on. when you have this condition, you must shell out to a dos prompt, and check your ip address. by issuing ipconfig/all and tell us those numbers there. if you dont have an ip address, that is one problem, if you dont have a gateway, or dhcp server or dns server, that will also keep you from getting out to the internet. if you do have an ip address, then connect to your router at the gateway address, and check the status from that point. i would also reset the router back to factory. it should work with factory settings. dont mess with the dhcp timeout settings. longer is always better. it is also possible that you programmed scheduled periods that the router would not work for parental control purposes. it could be almost anything. Dan Sgambelluri wrote: Show quoteHide quote > I have a D-Link WBR-1310 Wireless Router > > I am able to connect to the internet throughout the whole day but I am > unable to connect to the internet in the morning after a few hours on > inactivity. I am able to connect to the internet if the cable goes from > the modem to the computer's nic card. I can after a few seconds > connected from the modem to the nic card and than transfer the cable > from the modem to router and than put back the cable from the router to > the nic card, it works fine. > > Is there a setting that I am forgetting to change so the router does not > do this because it will be a pain to do this every single day? I had to > do this for the 3 mornings I had this router. > > Thanks > Dan Jay B wrote:
Show quoteHide quote > it doesnt sound like this problem is being diagnosed properly. I will do ipconfig/all the next time it does that and see what it gives me.> you say you "cannot connect to the internet" but that is clearly not > enough info for anyone to go on. > when you have this condition, you must shell out to a dos prompt, and > check your ip address. by issuing ipconfig/all > and tell us those numbers there. > if you dont have an ip address, that is one problem, > if you dont have a gateway, or dhcp server or dns server, that will also > keep you from getting out to the internet. > > if you do have an ip address, then connect to your router at the gateway > address, and check the status from that point. > > i would also reset the router back to factory. it should work with > factory settings. > dont mess with the dhcp timeout settings. longer is always better. > > it is also possible that you programmed scheduled periods that the > router would not work for parental control purposes. > > it could be almost anything. I have reseted the router a couple times. I haven't seen any programmed scheduled periods settings but that would go away by taking out the cable from the router and put it computer and than a few seconds later put it back to the router and have it working again. Thanks Dan Dan Sgambelluri wrote:
Show quoteHide quote > Jay B wrote: Quarter to 7 in the morning and and it works. Hopefully it works when I >> it doesnt sound like this problem is being diagnosed properly. >> you say you "cannot connect to the internet" but that is clearly not >> enough info for anyone to go on. >> when you have this condition, you must shell out to a dos prompt, and >> check your ip address. by issuing ipconfig/all >> and tell us those numbers there. >> if you dont have an ip address, that is one problem, >> if you dont have a gateway, or dhcp server or dns server, that will >> also keep you from getting out to the internet. >> >> if you do have an ip address, then connect to your router at the >> gateway address, and check the status from that point. >> >> i would also reset the router back to factory. it should work with >> factory settings. >> dont mess with the dhcp timeout settings. longer is always better. >> >> it is also possible that you programmed scheduled periods that the >> router would not work for parental control purposes. >> >> it could be almost anything. > I will do ipconfig/all the next time it does that and see what it gives me. > > I have reseted the router a couple times. > > I haven't seen any programmed scheduled periods settings but that would > go away by taking out the cable from the router and put it computer and > than a few seconds later put it back to the router and have it working > again. > > Thanks > Dan get back from work. 
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