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Author
14 Feb 2009 11:17 PM
aen
I have 3 comp's on a home network
1 is xp media center
2 is vista home premium
3 is xp pro
all three are set up for file and print share, I can see all three from any
one
none have user accounts set up
none have a password set up
I can push files from 1 to 2 and 3 with no password
I can swap files between  2 and  3  with no password
If I try to access files on 1 from 2 or 3 then a password login
window/prompt appears
since I have no password setup I am unable to access this comp.
any ideas or a fix is appreciated

Thanks

Author
14 Feb 2009 11:32 PM
ToddAndMargo
aen wrote:
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> I have 3 comp's on a home network
> 1 is xp media center
> 2 is vista home premium
> 3 is xp pro
> all three are set up for file and print share, I can see all three from any
> one
> none have user accounts set up
> none have a password set up
> I can push files from 1 to 2 and 3 with no password
> I can swap files between  2 and  3  with no password
> If I try to access files on 1 from 2 or 3 then a password login
> window/prompt appears
> since I have no password setup I am unable to access this comp.
> any ideas or a fix is appreciated
>
> Thanks
>


Hi Aen,

    Try this registry modification.  Copy and paste it to
a text file named XP.DoNotLimitBlankPasswordUse.reg on
your desktop, then double click on it.

-T

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

REGEDIT4

; This key will allow external network users to use blank passwords,
; in addition to the console.  ("on" only allows the console users
; to use a blank password.)

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Lsa]
"limitblankpassworduse"=dword:00000000
Author
15 Feb 2009 12:31 AM
aen
Thanks
I had to go into the reg and edit by hand in all three
this helped for 3 and am now able to access 1 from 3
however 2 after the reg change is still looking for a password and user name
and does not like any that i can think of
any other ideas??

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"ToddAndMargo" wrote:

> aen wrote:
> > I have 3 comp's on a home network
> > 1 is xp media center
> > 2 is vista home premium
> > 3 is xp pro
> > all three are set up for file and print share, I can see all three from any
> > one
> > none have user accounts set up
> > none have a password set up
> > I can push files from 1 to 2 and 3 with no password
> > I can swap files between  2 and  3  with no password
> > If I try to access files on 1 from 2 or 3 then a password login
> > window/prompt appears
> > since I have no password setup I am unable to access this comp.
> > any ideas or a fix is appreciated
> >
> > Thanks
> >
>
>
> Hi Aen,
>
>     Try this registry modification.  Copy and paste it to
> a text file named XP.DoNotLimitBlankPasswordUse.reg on
> your desktop, then double click on it.
>
> -T
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
> REGEDIT4
>
> ; This key will allow external network users to use blank passwords,
> ; in addition to the console.  ("on" only allows the console users
> ; to use a blank password.)
>
> [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Lsa]
> "limitblankpassworduse"=dword:00000000
>
Author
15 Feb 2009 1:41 AM
ToddAndMargo
aen wrote:
> Thanks
> I had to go into the reg and edit by hand in all three
> this helped for 3 and am now able to access 1 from 3
> however 2 after the reg change is still looking for a password and user name
> and does not like any that i can think of
> any other ideas??

Hi Aen,

Seems to me I wrote myself a How To note on that a few months ago:

    How to turn on and off "Password protected sharing" in Vista:

    --> Control Panel
      --> Network and Sharing Center
        --> Tasks (the default screen)

    Toggle on and off the "Password Protected sharing" button

HTH,
-T
Author
15 Feb 2009 2:17 AM
aen
Hi
I toggled the password protection on then off
still asking for a user and password
thanks
for the ideas
any thing else I can try

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"ToddAndMargo" wrote:

> aen wrote:
> > Thanks
> > I had to go into the reg and edit by hand in all three
> > this helped for 3 and am now able to access 1 from 3
> > however 2 after the reg change is still looking for a password and user name
> > and does not like any that i can think of
> > any other ideas??
>
> Hi Aen,
>
> Seems to me I wrote myself a How To note on that a few months ago:
>
>     How to turn on and off "Password protected sharing" in Vista:
>
>     --> Control Panel
>       --> Network and Sharing Center
>         --> Tasks (the default screen)
>
>     Toggle on and off the "Password Protected sharing" button
>
> HTH,
> -T
>
Author
15 Feb 2009 2:27 AM
ToddAndMargo
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> "ToddAndMargo" wrote:
>
>> aen wrote:
>>> Thanks
>>> I had to go into the reg and edit by hand in all three
>>> this helped for 3 and am now able to access 1 from 3
>>> however 2 after the reg change is still looking for a password and user name
>>> and does not like any that i can think of
>>> any other ideas??
>> Hi Aen,
>>
>> Seems to me I wrote myself a How To note on that a few months ago:
>>
>>     How to turn on and off "Password protected sharing" in Vista:
>>
>>     --> Control Panel
>>       --> Network and Sharing Center
>>         --> Tasks (the default screen)
>>
>>     Toggle on and off the "Password Protected sharing" button
>>
>> HTH,
>> -T
>>

aen wrote:
> Hi
> I toggled the password protection on then off
> still asking for a user and password
> thanks
> for the ideas
> any thing else I can try
>

Other than toggling it off, then rebooting, I am out of ideas.

Vista is awful.  I'd put XP or Kubunto on it and save yourself
the hassle.  Or, you could wait for Windows 7 (I have
W7beta and I have to admit, it is nice.)

-T
Author
15 Feb 2009 3:01 AM
aen
yah I do like xp not too many problems
thanks for the help

where do I get W7beta?

thanks

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"ToddAndMargo" wrote:

>
> > "ToddAndMargo" wrote:
> >
> >> aen wrote:
> >>> Thanks
> >>> I had to go into the reg and edit by hand in all three
> >>> this helped for 3 and am now able to access 1 from 3
> >>> however 2 after the reg change is still looking for a password and user name
> >>> and does not like any that i can think of
> >>> any other ideas??
> >> Hi Aen,
> >>
> >> Seems to me I wrote myself a How To note on that a few months ago:
> >>
> >>     How to turn on and off "Password protected sharing" in Vista:
> >>
> >>     --> Control Panel
> >>       --> Network and Sharing Center
> >>         --> Tasks (the default screen)
> >>
> >>     Toggle on and off the "Password Protected sharing" button
> >>
> >> HTH,
> >> -T
> >>
>
> aen wrote:
>  > Hi
>  > I toggled the password protection on then off
>  > still asking for a user and password
>  > thanks
>  > for the ideas
>  > any thing else I can try
>  >
>
> Other than toggling it off, then rebooting, I am out of ideas.
>
> Vista is awful.  I'd put XP or Kubunto on it and save yourself
> the hassle.  Or, you could wait for Windows 7 (I have
> W7beta and I have to admit, it is nice.)
>
> -T
>
Author
15 Feb 2009 3:46 AM
ToddAndMargo
aen wrote:
> yah I do like xp not too many problems
> thanks for the help
>
> where do I get W7beta?
>
> thanks
>

http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windows-7/beta-download.aspx

or directly

http://download.microsoft.com/download/6/3/3/633118BD-6C3D-45A4-B985-F0FDFFE1B021/EN/7000.0.081212-1400_client_en-us_Ultimate-GB1CULFRE_EN_DVD.iso

You only get 30 days on it, but you can extend it to 240 days.
I wrote myself a How To on that too:

1) I had to enable my administrator's account and give it
    a password.

2) open a command prompt (cmd)

3) open an elevated command prompt from the
    command prompt:

         runas /user:VB-W7beta\administrator cmd

4) then, just run the command from the new prompt

         slmgr -rearm


HTH,
-T
Author
15 Feb 2009 4:01 AM
ToddAndMargo
ToddAndMargo wrote:

>         runas /user:VB-W7beta\administrator cmd

"VB-W7beta" is the name of the virtual machine I run
W7beta on.  Change it to your computer's name.  Run
the "Set" command from a command prompt to find it.
Looks like:

COMPUTERNAME=VB-W7beta

-T
Author
15 Feb 2009 8:52 AM
James Egan
On Sat, 14 Feb 2009 16:31:01 -0800, aen
<a**@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:

>Thanks
>I had to go into the reg and edit by hand in all three

That's because he didn't indicate that you need a blank line at the
end of the .reg file he wanted you to create.

>this helped for 3 and am now able to access 1 from 3
>however 2 after the reg change is still looking for a password and user name
>and does not like any that i can think of
>any other ideas??

Use matching usernames on both machines and/or consider mapping drives
via batch file with a stated username password combo. eg

net use j: \\pcname\sharename "" /USER:fred

"" put a password between the quotes if there is one

Once the drive is mapped you will still be able to access files using
UNC names if you so wish. You don't have to use the mapped drive
letter explicitly to gain access to the files.


Jim.
Author
15 Feb 2009 12:05 PM
Steve Winograd
On Sat, 14 Feb 2009 15:17:01 -0800, aen
<a**@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:

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>I have 3 comp's on a home network
>1 is xp media center
>2 is vista home premium
>3 is xp pro
>all three are set up for file and print share, I can see all three from any
>one
>none have user accounts set up
>none have a password set up
>I can push files from 1 to 2 and 3 with no password
>I can swap files between  2 and  3  with no password
>If I try to access files on 1 from 2 or 3 then a password login
>window/prompt appears
>since I have no password setup I am unable to access this comp.
>any ideas or a fix is appreciated
>
>Thanks

Enable simple file sharing on 1:

1. Go to Control Panel > Classic View > Folder Options.
2. Click View.
3. Scroll to the end of the list of Advanced settings.
4. Put a check mark in the box "Use simple file sharing
(Recommended)".
5. Click OK.

You might need to un-share and re-share the desired disks/folders to
make the change take effect.

BTW, all Windows computers have user accounts set up.  If there's only
one user account, which is usually the case, you don't get a login
prompt when Windows starts.  To see your user account(s), go to
Control Panel > User Accounts.
--
Best Wishes,
Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Desktop Experience)

Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group
for everyone to see.  I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions
addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups.

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Author
15 Feb 2009 2:21 PM
aen
Hi all
Thanks to everyone for thier help.
The final fix is the simple sharing check box
when I went to unshare my folders I found a second tab with the notice that
windows had locked this folder from sharing, even with the folder marked as
shared
I reran the file share wiz and now am able to access with out a password.
Thanks again to all who helped

aen


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"Steve Winograd" wrote:

> On Sat, 14 Feb 2009 15:17:01 -0800, aen
> <a**@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
>
> >I have 3 comp's on a home network
> >1 is xp media center
> >2 is vista home premium
> >3 is xp pro
> >all three are set up for file and print share, I can see all three from any
> >one
> >none have user accounts set up
> >none have a password set up
> >I can push files from 1 to 2 and 3 with no password
> >I can swap files between  2 and  3  with no password
> >If I try to access files on 1 from 2 or 3 then a password login
> >window/prompt appears
> >since I have no password setup I am unable to access this comp.
> >any ideas or a fix is appreciated
> >
> >Thanks
>
> Enable simple file sharing on 1:
>
> 1. Go to Control Panel > Classic View > Folder Options.
> 2. Click View.
> 3. Scroll to the end of the list of Advanced settings.
> 4. Put a check mark in the box "Use simple file sharing
> (Recommended)".
> 5. Click OK.
>
> You might need to un-share and re-share the desired disks/folders to
> make the change take effect.
>
> BTW, all Windows computers have user accounts set up.  If there's only
> one user account, which is usually the case, you don't get a login
> prompt when Windows starts.  To see your user account(s), go to
> Control Panel > User Accounts.
> --
> Best Wishes,
> Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Desktop Experience)
>
> Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group
> for everyone to see.  I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions
> addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups.
>
> Microsoft Most Valuable Professional Program
> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
>