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Author
23 Feb 2009 2:36 PM
Kenneth
Howdy,

We have six systems, a wireless access point, and a wireless
print server, behind a router.

The WAP, and the WPS have static IP addresses, and the
systems are all DHCP.

On occasion, we get an error on one of the systems saying
that there is a duplicate IP address.

We have checked with care, and it ain't so...

What might be causing the error, and (other than the modest
inconvenience) can I ignore it?

Also, is there a way to find out what the system displaying
the error thinks the problem is specifically?

(I should add that I have checked the event viewer tree, but
it shows nothing relevant. Oddly, the System branch shows a
string of information entries dated 7-9-09 which caused me
to check the system date, which is fine. Weird...)

Thanks for any help,
--
Kenneth

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Author
23 Feb 2009 2:57 PM
Malke
Kenneth wrote:

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>
> Howdy,
>
> We have six systems, a wireless access point, and a wireless
> print server, behind a router.
>
> The WAP, and the WPS have static IP addresses, and the
> systems are all DHCP.
>
> On occasion, we get an error on one of the systems saying
> that there is a duplicate IP address.
>
> We have checked with care, and it ain't so...
>
> What might be causing the error, and (other than the modest
> inconvenience) can I ignore it?
>
> Also, is there a way to find out what the system displaying
> the error thinks the problem is specifically?
>
> (I should add that I have checked the event viewer tree, but
> it shows nothing relevant. Oddly, the System branch shows a
> string of information entries dated 7-9-09 which caused me
> to check the system date, which is fine. Weird...)

My guess is that you haven't set the static IP addresses outside of the DHCP
address range. So if your print server, for ex., is 192.168.1.3 and one of
the computers gets 192.168.1.3 before the print server "wakes up" as it
were, you'll get this kind of IP conflict.

Go into your router's configuration utility and check your DHCP range. Set
it to something like 192.168.1.2-192.168.1.149 (obviously substitute your
correct subnet). Then assign static IPs for printers, print servers,
wireless access points, etc. to addresses above that.

Malke
--
MS-MVP
Elephant Boy Computers - Don't Panic!
http://www.elephantboycomputers.com/#FAQ
Author
23 Feb 2009 5:42 PM
Kenneth
On Mon, 23 Feb 2009 06:57:36 -0800, Malke
<malke@invalid.invalid> wrote:

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>Kenneth wrote:
>
>>
>> Howdy,
>>
>> We have six systems, a wireless access point, and a wireless
>> print server, behind a router.
>>
>> The WAP, and the WPS have static IP addresses, and the
>> systems are all DHCP.
>>
>> On occasion, we get an error on one of the systems saying
>> that there is a duplicate IP address.
>>
>> We have checked with care, and it ain't so...
>>
>> What might be causing the error, and (other than the modest
>> inconvenience) can I ignore it?
>>
>> Also, is there a way to find out what the system displaying
>> the error thinks the problem is specifically?
>>
>> (I should add that I have checked the event viewer tree, but
>> it shows nothing relevant. Oddly, the System branch shows a
>> string of information entries dated 7-9-09 which caused me
>> to check the system date, which is fine. Weird...)
>
>My guess is that you haven't set the static IP addresses outside of the DHCP
>address range. So if your print server, for ex., is 192.168.1.3 and one of
>the computers gets 192.168.1.3 before the print server "wakes up" as it
>were, you'll get this kind of IP conflict.
>
>Go into your router's configuration utility and check your DHCP range. Set
>it to something like 192.168.1.2-192.168.1.149 (obviously substitute your
>correct subnet). Then assign static IPs for printers, print servers,
>wireless access points, etc. to addresses above that.
>
>Malke

Hi Malke,

I will certainly give it a try, and thank you for the
suggestion,
--
Kenneth

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Author
23 Feb 2009 5:53 PM
Kenneth
On Mon, 23 Feb 2009 12:42:15 -0500, Kenneth
<usenet@soleSPAMLESSassociates.com> wrote:

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>On Mon, 23 Feb 2009 06:57:36 -0800, Malke
><malke@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>
>>Kenneth wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Howdy,
>>>
>>> We have six systems, a wireless access point, and a wireless
>>> print server, behind a router.
>>>
>>> The WAP, and the WPS have static IP addresses, and the
>>> systems are all DHCP.
>>>
>>> On occasion, we get an error on one of the systems saying
>>> that there is a duplicate IP address.
>>>
>>> We have checked with care, and it ain't so...
>>>
>>> What might be causing the error, and (other than the modest
>>> inconvenience) can I ignore it?
>>>
>>> Also, is there a way to find out what the system displaying
>>> the error thinks the problem is specifically?
>>>
>>> (I should add that I have checked the event viewer tree, but
>>> it shows nothing relevant. Oddly, the System branch shows a
>>> string of information entries dated 7-9-09 which caused me
>>> to check the system date, which is fine. Weird...)
>>
>>My guess is that you haven't set the static IP addresses outside of the DHCP
>>address range. So if your print server, for ex., is 192.168.1.3 and one of
>>the computers gets 192.168.1.3 before the print server "wakes up" as it
>>were, you'll get this kind of IP conflict.
>>
>>Go into your router's configuration utility and check your DHCP range. Set
>>it to something like 192.168.1.2-192.168.1.149 (obviously substitute your
>>correct subnet). Then assign static IPs for printers, print servers,
>>wireless access points, etc. to addresses above that.
>>
>>Malke
>
>Hi Malke,
>
>I will certainly give it a try, and thank you for the
>suggestion,

Hi again Malke,

Well, it was such a good idea, that I apparently had done it
already:

The router's DHCP range is set to provide 40 addresses
starting from 192.168.1.100.

The two static addresses are 192.168.1.245, and
192.168.1.150, so they are out of range.

Might you have any other thoughts about this?

Thanks again,
--
Kenneth

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Author
23 Feb 2009 6:40 PM
Malke
Kenneth wrote:

> Well, it was such a good idea, that I apparently had done it
> already:
>
> The router's DHCP range is set to provide 40 addresses
> starting from 192.168.1.100.
>
> The two static addresses are 192.168.1.245, and
> 192.168.1.150, so they are out of range.
>
> Might you have any other thoughts about this?

No, I'm sorry but I don't. But hopefully one of the networking gurus will
come around. You might want to check on MVP Jack's site to see if he covers
this.

http://www.ezlan.net

Malke
--
MS-MVP
Elephant Boy Computers - Don't Panic!
http://www.elephantboycomputers.com/#FAQ
Author
23 Feb 2009 8:25 PM
Jack (MVP-Networking).
Hi
If your Router can do IP reservation within the DHCP (aka Static IP) set it
so that the Wired and Wireless computers that you have onsite would obtain
always the same IP (it usually goes by their MAC number) and would benefit
from being on a DHCP server. This way any additional transient computers
would choose an IP that is Not reserved, and the onsite computers would
always get their personal address. It is also better for the Mapped and
Shared Drives to be on Reserved the IP since they would be always at the
same Network spot.
Jack (MS, MVP-Networking)

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"Kenneth" <usenet@soleSPAMLESSassociates.com> wrote in message
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>
> Howdy,
>
> We have six systems, a wireless access point, and a wireless
> print server, behind a router.
>
> The WAP, and the WPS have static IP addresses, and the
> systems are all DHCP.
>
> On occasion, we get an error on one of the systems saying
> that there is a duplicate IP address.
>
> We have checked with care, and it ain't so...
>
> What might be causing the error, and (other than the modest
> inconvenience) can I ignore it?
>
> Also, is there a way to find out what the system displaying
> the error thinks the problem is specifically?
>
> (I should add that I have checked the event viewer tree, but
> it shows nothing relevant. Oddly, the System branch shows a
> string of information entries dated 7-9-09 which caused me
> to check the system date, which is fine. Weird...)
>
> Thanks for any help,
> --
> Kenneth
>
> If you email... Please remove the "SPAMLESS."
Author
23 Feb 2009 10:05 PM
Kenneth
On Mon, 23 Feb 2009 15:25:30 -0500, "Jack
\(MVP-Networking\)." <j***@discussiongroup.com> wrote:


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>"Kenneth" <usenet@soleSPAMLESSassociates.com> wrote in message
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>>
>> Howdy,
>>
>> We have six systems, a wireless access point, and a wireless
>> print server, behind a router.
>>
>> The WAP, and the WPS have static IP addresses, and the
>> systems are all DHCP.
>>
>> On occasion, we get an error on one of the systems saying
>> that there is a duplicate IP address.
>>
>> We have checked with care, and it ain't so...
>>
>> What might be causing the error, and (other than the modest
>> inconvenience) can I ignore it?
>>
>> Also, is there a way to find out what the system displaying
>> the error thinks the problem is specifically?
>>
>> (I should add that I have checked the event viewer tree, but
>> it shows nothing relevant. Oddly, the System branch shows a
>> string of information entries dated 7-9-09 which caused me
>> to check the system date, which is fine. Weird...)
>>
>> Thanks for any help,
>> --
>> Kenneth
>>
>> If you email... Please remove the "SPAMLESS."

Hi Jack,

Unfortunately, my router will not do the "reserved address"
stuff.

It does seem to me that the error message is spurious, and
it seems not to have caused any difficulty (other than its
occasional appearance), but I would like to learn more about
what might be causing it.

Is there any way that this problem could be caused by
flakiness in the router itself? I ask because in the last
month or so, I have found that, on occasion, one, or more,
of our systems seems to "disappear" from the lan. When we
spot that problem, we have rebooted the router and all has
been well. The router is a Linksys, and I do suspect that it
is entering its last days.

Thanks for your thoughts,
--
Kenneth

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Author
24 Feb 2009 12:34 AM
Jack (MVP-Networking).
Hi
Yap, the Linksys line does not do DHCP Reservation.
However if it is a model that can be flashed with DD_WRT you might be able
to flash the firmware have Reservation and infuse new life to the Router.
Look here, http://www.dd-wrt.com/wiki/index.php/Main_Page
Jack (MS, MVP-Networking)

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"Kenneth" <usenet@soleSPAMLESSassociates.com> wrote in message
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> On Mon, 23 Feb 2009 15:25:30 -0500, "Jack
> \(MVP-Networking\)." <j***@discussiongroup.com> wrote:
>
>
>>"Kenneth" <usenet@soleSPAMLESSassociates.com> wrote in message
>>news:llc5q4tvmd3iabs19a7v14qjd20ogqevsa@4ax.com...
>>>
>>> Howdy,
>>>
>>> We have six systems, a wireless access point, and a wireless
>>> print server, behind a router.
>>>
>>> The WAP, and the WPS have static IP addresses, and the
>>> systems are all DHCP.
>>>
>>> On occasion, we get an error on one of the systems saying
>>> that there is a duplicate IP address.
>>>
>>> We have checked with care, and it ain't so...
>>>
>>> What might be causing the error, and (other than the modest
>>> inconvenience) can I ignore it?
>>>
>>> Also, is there a way to find out what the system displaying
>>> the error thinks the problem is specifically?
>>>
>>> (I should add that I have checked the event viewer tree, but
>>> it shows nothing relevant. Oddly, the System branch shows a
>>> string of information entries dated 7-9-09 which caused me
>>> to check the system date, which is fine. Weird...)
>>>
>>> Thanks for any help,
>>> --
>>> Kenneth
>>>
>>> If you email... Please remove the "SPAMLESS."
>
> Hi Jack,
>
> Unfortunately, my router will not do the "reserved address"
> stuff.
>
> It does seem to me that the error message is spurious, and
> it seems not to have caused any difficulty (other than its
> occasional appearance), but I would like to learn more about
> what might be causing it.
>
> Is there any way that this problem could be caused by
> flakiness in the router itself? I ask because in the last
> month or so, I have found that, on occasion, one, or more,
> of our systems seems to "disappear" from the lan. When we
> spot that problem, we have rebooted the router and all has
> been well. The router is a Linksys, and I do suspect that it
> is entering its last days.
>
> Thanks for your thoughts,
> --
> Kenneth
>
> If you email... Please remove the "SPAMLESS."
Author
11 Mar 2009 3:07 PM
Kenneth
On Mon, 23 Feb 2009 19:34:44 -0500, "Jack
\(MVP-Networking\)." <j***@discussiongroup.com> wrote:

>Hi
>Yap, the Linksys line does not do DHCP Reservation.
>However if it is a model that can be flashed with DD_WRT you might be able
>to flash the firmware have Reservation and infuse new life to the Router.
>Look here, http://www.dd-wrt.com/wiki/index.php/Main_Page
>Jack (MS, MVP-Networking)

Hi Jack and All,

I had been having occasional error messages telling me that
two devices on our LAN had the same IP address, but I could
not trace it down because when I looked at each address,
they were, indeed, unique.

Well, it happened again today, but this time, something
showed up in Event Viewer.

It provided the MAC address of the device assigned the IP
address that was in conflict.

('Sounds good so far, huh...?)

Well, I can't find a device with that MAC address. I know
it's out there, but I have not been able to find it.

Is there an approach to this situation that I am missing?

Many thanks for any help,
--
Kenneth

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Author
11 Mar 2009 4:19 PM
Lem
Kenneth wrote:
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> On Mon, 23 Feb 2009 19:34:44 -0500, "Jack
> \(MVP-Networking\)." <j***@discussiongroup.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi
>> Yap, the Linksys line does not do DHCP Reservation.
>> However if it is a model that can be flashed with DD_WRT you might be able
>> to flash the firmware have Reservation and infuse new life to the Router.
>> Look here, http://www.dd-wrt.com/wiki/index.php/Main_Page
>> Jack (MS, MVP-Networking)
>
> Hi Jack and All,
>
> I had been having occasional error messages telling me that
> two devices on our LAN had the same IP address, but I could
> not trace it down because when I looked at each address,
> they were, indeed, unique.
>
> Well, it happened again today, but this time, something
> showed up in Event Viewer.
>
> It provided the MAC address of the device assigned the IP
> address that was in conflict.
>
> ('Sounds good so far, huh...?)
>
> Well, I can't find a device with that MAC address. I know
> it's out there, but I have not been able to find it.
>
> Is there an approach to this situation that I am missing?
>
> Many thanks for any help,

The first six characters of the MAC address identify the device
manufacturer. Perhaps that would help you find it.
http://www.coffer.com/mac_find/

Otherwise ... how is your network protected from intruders?

--
Lem -- MS-MVP

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Author
11 Mar 2009 6:08 PM
Kenneth
On Wed, 11 Mar 2009 12:19:52 -0400, Lem <lemp40@unknownhost>
wrote:

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>Kenneth wrote:
>> On Mon, 23 Feb 2009 19:34:44 -0500, "Jack
>> \(MVP-Networking\)." <j***@discussiongroup.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi
>>> Yap, the Linksys line does not do DHCP Reservation.
>>> However if it is a model that can be flashed with DD_WRT you might be able
>>> to flash the firmware have Reservation and infuse new life to the Router.
>>> Look here, http://www.dd-wrt.com/wiki/index.php/Main_Page
>>> Jack (MS, MVP-Networking)
>>
>> Hi Jack and All,
>>
>> I had been having occasional error messages telling me that
>> two devices on our LAN had the same IP address, but I could
>> not trace it down because when I looked at each address,
>> they were, indeed, unique.
>>
>> Well, it happened again today, but this time, something
>> showed up in Event Viewer.
>>
>> It provided the MAC address of the device assigned the IP
>> address that was in conflict.
>>
>> ('Sounds good so far, huh...?)
>>
>> Well, I can't find a device with that MAC address. I know
>> it's out there, but I have not been able to find it.
>>
>> Is there an approach to this situation that I am missing?
>>
>> Many thanks for any help,
>
>The first six characters of the MAC address identify the device
>manufacturer. Perhaps that would help you find it.
>http://www.coffer.com/mac_find/
>
>Otherwise ... how is your network protected from intruders?

Hi again,

Our 7 systems are behind a router...

(and I will check the site you suggested.)

Many thanks,
--
Kenneth

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Author
11 Mar 2009 6:20 PM
smlunatick
On Mar 11, 6:08 pm, Kenneth <use...@soleSPAMLESSassociates.com> wrote:
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> On Wed, 11 Mar 2009 12:19:52 -0400, Lem <lemp40@unknownhost>
> wrote:
>
>
>
> >Kenneth wrote:
> >> On Mon, 23 Feb 2009 19:34:44 -0500, "Jack
> >> \(MVP-Networking\)." <j***@discussiongroup.com> wrote:
>
> >>> Hi
> >>> Yap, the Linksys line does not do DHCP Reservation.
> >>> However if it is a model that can be flashed with DD_WRT you might be able
> >>> to flash the firmware have Reservation and infuse new life to the Router.
> >>> Look here,http://www.dd-wrt.com/wiki/index.php/Main_Page
> >>> Jack (MS, MVP-Networking)
>
> >> Hi Jack and All,
>
> >> I had been having occasional error messages telling me that
> >> two devices on our LAN had the same IP address, but I could
> >> not trace it down because when I looked at each address,
> >> they were, indeed, unique.
>
> >> Well, it happened again today, but this time, something
> >> showed up in Event Viewer.
>
> >> It provided the MAC address of the device assigned the IP
> >> address that was in conflict.
>
> >> ('Sounds good so far, huh...?)
>
> >> Well, I can't find a device with that MAC address. I know
> >> it's out there, but I have not been able to find it.
>
> >> Is there an approach to this situation that I am missing?
>
> >> Many thanks for any help,
>
> >The first six characters of the MAC address identify the device
> >manufacturer. Perhaps that would help you find it.
> >http://www.coffer.com/mac_find/
>
> >Otherwise ... how is your network protected from intruders?
>
> Hi again,
>
> Our 7 systems are behind a router...
>
> (and I will check the site you suggested.)
>
> Many thanks,
> --
> Kenneth
>
> If you email... Please remove the "SPAMLESS."

Is this a wireless router?
If yes, does the wireless network have a WiFi security access key
(WEP, WPA or WPA2?)  If it does not, you may have someone "piggy-
backing" onto your Internet access.

Also, you might want to check the router's status pages and check to
see what "devices" are currently connected to the router.  Check which
are truly yours.
Author
11 Mar 2009 7:00 PM
Kenneth
On Wed, 11 Mar 2009 11:20:58 -0700 (PDT), smlunatick
<yves***@gmail.com> wrote:

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>On Mar 11, 6:08 pm, Kenneth <use...@soleSPAMLESSassociates.com> wrote:
>> On Wed, 11 Mar 2009 12:19:52 -0400, Lem <lemp40@unknownhost>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> >Kenneth wrote:
>> >> On Mon, 23 Feb 2009 19:34:44 -0500, "Jack
>> >> \(MVP-Networking\)." <j***@discussiongroup.com> wrote:
>>
>> >>> Hi
>> >>> Yap, the Linksys line does not do DHCP Reservation.
>> >>> However if it is a model that can be flashed with DD_WRT you might be able
>> >>> to flash the firmware have Reservation and infuse new life to the Router.
>> >>> Look here,http://www.dd-wrt.com/wiki/index.php/Main_Page
>> >>> Jack (MS, MVP-Networking)
>>
>> >> Hi Jack and All,
>>
>> >> I had been having occasional error messages telling me that
>> >> two devices on our LAN had the same IP address, but I could
>> >> not trace it down because when I looked at each address,
>> >> they were, indeed, unique.
>>
>> >> Well, it happened again today, but this time, something
>> >> showed up in Event Viewer.
>>
>> >> It provided the MAC address of the device assigned the IP
>> >> address that was in conflict.
>>
>> >> ('Sounds good so far, huh...?)
>>
>> >> Well, I can't find a device with that MAC address. I know
>> >> it's out there, but I have not been able to find it.
>>
>> >> Is there an approach to this situation that I am missing?
>>
>> >> Many thanks for any help,
>>
>> >The first six characters of the MAC address identify the device
>> >manufacturer. Perhaps that would help you find it.
>> >http://www.coffer.com/mac_find/
>>
>> >Otherwise ... how is your network protected from intruders?
>>
>> Hi again,
>>
>> Our 7 systems are behind a router...
>>
>> (and I will check the site you suggested.)
>>
>> Many thanks,
>> --
>> Kenneth
>>
>> If you email... Please remove the "SPAMLESS."
>
>Is this a wireless router?
>If yes, does the wireless network have a WiFi security access key
>(WEP, WPA or WPA2?)  If it does not, you may have someone "piggy-
>backing" onto your Internet access.
>
>Also, you might want to check the router's status pages and check to
>see what "devices" are currently connected to the router.  Check which
>are truly yours.

Hi again,

The router is not wireless...

I had not thought to check the status page and will do that
later today.

Thanks,
--
Kenneth

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Author
17 Mar 2009 8:49 PM
Kenneth
On Wed, 11 Mar 2009 15:00:23 -0400, Kenneth
<usenet@soleSPAMLESSassociates.com> wrote:

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>On Wed, 11 Mar 2009 11:20:58 -0700 (PDT), smlunatick
><yves***@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>On Mar 11, 6:08 pm, Kenneth <use...@soleSPAMLESSassociates.com> wrote:
>>> On Wed, 11 Mar 2009 12:19:52 -0400, Lem <lemp40@unknownhost>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> >Kenneth wrote:
>>> >> On Mon, 23 Feb 2009 19:34:44 -0500, "Jack
>>> >> \(MVP-Networking\)." <j***@discussiongroup.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> >>> Hi
>>> >>> Yap, the Linksys line does not do DHCP Reservation.
>>> >>> However if it is a model that can be flashed with DD_WRT you might be able
>>> >>> to flash the firmware have Reservation and infuse new life to the Router.
>>> >>> Look here,http://www.dd-wrt.com/wiki/index.php/Main_Page
>>> >>> Jack (MS, MVP-Networking)
>>>
>>> >> Hi Jack and All,
>>>
>>> >> I had been having occasional error messages telling me that
>>> >> two devices on our LAN had the same IP address, but I could
>>> >> not trace it down because when I looked at each address,
>>> >> they were, indeed, unique.
>>>
>>> >> Well, it happened again today, but this time, something
>>> >> showed up in Event Viewer.
>>>
>>> >> It provided the MAC address of the device assigned the IP
>>> >> address that was in conflict.
>>>
>>> >> ('Sounds good so far, huh...?)
>>>
>>> >> Well, I can't find a device with that MAC address. I know
>>> >> it's out there, but I have not been able to find it.
>>>
>>> >> Is there an approach to this situation that I am missing?
>>>
>>> >> Many thanks for any help,
>>>
>>> >The first six characters of the MAC address identify the device
>>> >manufacturer. Perhaps that would help you find it.
>>> >http://www.coffer.com/mac_find/
>>>
>>> >Otherwise ... how is your network protected from intruders?
>>>
>>> Hi again,
>>>
>>> Our 7 systems are behind a router...
>>>
>>> (and I will check the site you suggested.)
>>>
>>> Many thanks,
>>> --
>>> Kenneth
>>>
>>> If you email... Please remove the "SPAMLESS."
>>
>>Is this a wireless router?
>>If yes, does the wireless network have a WiFi security access key
>>(WEP, WPA or WPA2?)  If it does not, you may have someone "piggy-
>>backing" onto your Internet access.
>>
>>Also, you might want to check the router's status pages and check to
>>see what "devices" are currently connected to the router.  Check which
>>are truly yours.
>
>Hi again,
>
>The router is not wireless...
>
>I had not thought to check the status page and will do that
>later today.
>
>Thanks,

Hi again All,

It took a while, but, I am making progress...

I just got the "System detected an IP address conflict"
error that I had described.

Event viewer told me the MAC address of the hardware with
which there was a conflict.

It was my iPhone.

It had an ip address of 192.168.1.105.

I turned off the iPhone, and looked at the ip address of the
system that displayed the error. It was the same as the
iPhone, 192.168.1.105.

(Things will get stranger in a moment, but...)

I rebooted the iPhone, and it got an ip address of
192.168.1.106. So, at that point, there was no conflict.

Of course, I had no idea how the DHCP could dole out the
same address twice.

Next, with several systems (and the iPhone) on the LAN, I
went into the router's configuration and looked at the DHCP
table.

It showed the system with the original error message as
192.168.1.104, and I thought that I had recalled something
incorrectly (because I remembered it as 192.168.1.105) so I
ran ipconfig, and it showed 192.168.1.105.

At that point the DHCP table did not match the actual
assignments, so I click to refresh the table. The screen
refreshed, but nothing was modified.

With apologies for what may be excessive detail, I am stuck:

The router's DHCP table does not match the reality of the
assignments, and the router apparently assigns addresses
that are already in use.

Is it new router time?

Thanks for any help on this,

Many thanks,
--
Kenneth

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Author
18 Mar 2009 5:23 AM
John Wunderlich
Kenneth <usenet@soleSPAMLESSassociates.com> wrote in
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> It took a while, but, I am making progress...
>
> I just got the "System detected an IP address conflict"
> error that I had described.
>
> Event viewer told me the MAC address of the hardware with
> which there was a conflict.
>
> It was my iPhone.
>
> It had an ip address of 192.168.1.105.
>
> I turned off the iPhone, and looked at the ip address of the
> system that displayed the error. It was the same as the
> iPhone, 192.168.1.105.
>
> (Things will get stranger in a moment, but...)
>
> I rebooted the iPhone, and it got an ip address of
> 192.168.1.106. So, at that point, there was no conflict.
>
> Of course, I had no idea how the DHCP could dole out the
> same address twice.
>
> Next, with several systems (and the iPhone) on the LAN, I
> went into the router's configuration and looked at the DHCP
> table.
>
> It showed the system with the original error message as
> 192.168.1.104, and I thought that I had recalled something
> incorrectly (because I remembered it as 192.168.1.105) so I
> ran ipconfig, and it showed 192.168.1.105.
>
> At that point the DHCP table did not match the actual
> assignments, so I click to refresh the table. The screen
> refreshed, but nothing was modified.
>
> With apologies for what may be excessive detail, I am stuck:
>
> The router's DHCP table does not match the reality of the
> assignments, and the router apparently assigns addresses
> that are already in use.
>
> Is it new router time?
>

Two things I would do at this point in time:

1) Unplug your router from its power source for several seconds and
repower it.  Perhaps it just needs a fresh reset.  Power-cycle all
connecting devices as well.  My router's DHCP server fails about
every 2 months or so.  Power cycling fixes it for another couple of
months.

2) Check the router manufacturer's web site for updated firmware for
the router.  This might be a common problem with that make/model of
router that has been corrected with a new firmware load.

HTH,
  John
Author
18 Mar 2009 5:04 PM
smlunatick
On Mar 17, 8:49 pm, Kenneth <use...@soleSPAMLESSassociates.com> wrote:
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> On Wed, 11 Mar 2009 15:00:23 -0400, Kenneth
>
>
>
> <use...@soleSPAMLESSassociates.com> wrote:
> >On Wed, 11 Mar 2009 11:20:58 -0700 (PDT), smlunatick
> ><yves***@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >>On Mar 11, 6:08 pm, Kenneth <use...@soleSPAMLESSassociates.com> wrote:
> >>> On Wed, 11 Mar 2009 12:19:52 -0400, Lem <lemp40@unknownhost>
> >>> wrote:
>
> >>> >Kenneth wrote:
> >>> >> On Mon, 23 Feb 2009 19:34:44 -0500, "Jack
> >>> >> \(MVP-Networking\)." <j***@discussiongroup.com> wrote:
>
> >>> >>> Hi
> >>> >>> Yap, the Linksys line does not do DHCP Reservation.
> >>> >>> However if it is a model that can be flashed with DD_WRT you might be able
> >>> >>> to flash the firmware have Reservation and infuse new life to the Router.
> >>> >>> Look here,http://www.dd-wrt.com/wiki/index.php/Main_Page
> >>> >>> Jack (MS, MVP-Networking)
>
> >>> >> Hi Jack and All,
>
> >>> >> I had been having occasional error messages telling me that
> >>> >> two devices on our LAN had the same IP address, but I could
> >>> >> not trace it down because when I looked at each address,
> >>> >> they were, indeed, unique.
>
> >>> >> Well, it happened again today, but this time, something
> >>> >> showed up in Event Viewer.
>
> >>> >> It provided the MAC address of the device assigned the IP
> >>> >> address that was in conflict.
>
> >>> >> ('Sounds good so far, huh...?)
>
> >>> >> Well, I can't find a device with that MAC address. I know
> >>> >> it's out there, but I have not been able to find it.
>
> >>> >> Is there an approach to this situation that I am missing?
>
> >>> >> Many thanks for any help,
>
> >>> >The first six characters of the MAC address identify the device
> >>> >manufacturer. Perhaps that would help you find it.
> >>> >http://www.coffer.com/mac_find/
>
> >>> >Otherwise ... how is your network protected from intruders?
>
> >>> Hi again,
>
> >>> Our 7 systems are behind a router...
>
> >>> (and I will check the site you suggested.)
>
> >>> Many thanks,
> >>> --
> >>> Kenneth
>
> >>> If you email... Please remove the "SPAMLESS."
>
> >>Is this a wireless router?
> >>If yes, does the wireless network have a WiFi security access key
> >>(WEP, WPA or WPA2?)  If it does not, you may have someone "piggy-
> >>backing" onto your Internet access.
>
> >>Also, you might want to check the router's status pages and check to
> >>see what "devices" are currently connected to the router.  Check which
> >>are truly yours.
>
> >Hi again,
>
> >The router is not wireless...
>
> >I had not thought to check the status page and will do that
> >later today.
>
> >Thanks,
>
> Hi again All,
>
> It took a while, but, I am making progress...
>
> I just got the "System detected an IP address conflict"
> error that I had described.
>
> Event viewer told me the MAC address of the hardware with
> which there was a conflict.
>
> It was my iPhone.
>
> It had an ip address of 192.168.1.105.
>
> I turned off the iPhone, and looked at the ip address of the
> system that displayed the error. It was the same as the
> iPhone, 192.168.1.105.
>
> (Things will get stranger in a moment, but...)
>
> I rebooted the iPhone, and it got an ip address of
> 192.168.1.106. So, at that point, there was no conflict.
>
> Of course, I had no idea how the DHCP could dole out the
> same address twice.
>
> Next, with several systems (and the iPhone) on the LAN, I
> went into the router's configuration and looked at the DHCP
> table.
>
> It showed the system with the original error message as
> 192.168.1.104, and I thought that I had recalled something
> incorrectly (because I remembered it as 192.168.1.105) so I
> ran ipconfig, and it showed 192.168.1.105.
>
> At that point the DHCP table did not match the actual
> assignments, so I click to refresh the table. The screen
> refreshed, but nothing was modified.
>
> With apologies for what may be excessive detail, I am stuck:
>
> The router's DHCP table does not match the reality of the
> assignments, and the router apparently assigns addresses
> that are already in use.
>
> Is it new router time?
>
> Thanks for any help on this,
>
> Many thanks,
> --
> Kenneth
>
> If you email... Please remove the "SPAMLESS."

Some DHCP service / servers can have a "bug" assigning IPs.  Some seem
to require to detect all "assigned" devices before recycling IP
addresses.
Author
18 Mar 2009 5:13 PM
Kenneth
On Wed, 18 Mar 2009 10:04:13 -0700 (PDT), smlunatick
<yves***@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>Some DHCP service / servers can have a "bug" assigning IPs.  Some seem
>to require to detect all "assigned" devices before recycling IP
>addresses.

Hi again,

Would there be something I can do about the problem...?

Thanks,
--
Kenneth

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Author
18 Mar 2009 8:27 PM
smlunatick
On Mar 18, 5:13 pm, Kenneth <use...@soleSPAMLESSassociates.com> wrote:
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> On Wed, 18 Mar 2009 10:04:13 -0700 (PDT), smlunatick
>
> <yves***@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >Some DHCP service / servers can have a "bug" assigning IPs.  Some seem
> >to require to detect all "assigned" devices before recycling IP
> >addresses.
>
> Hi again,
>
> Would there be something I can do about the problem...?
>
> Thanks,
> --
> Kenneth
>
> If you email... Please remove the "SPAMLESS."

Depending on the DHCP server / unit / service, there might be an
update / fix / firmware upgrade.  May or may not "fix" this "bug"
unless the  DHCP "maker" had "deemed" that their DHCP is to work that
way.

It would be easier to take note of this previous problem since it can,
and will, re-occur.
Author
19 Mar 2009 12:47 AM
Kenneth
On Wed, 18 Mar 2009 13:27:33 -0700 (PDT), smlunatick
<yves***@gmail.com> wrote:

>
>It would be easier to take note of this previous problem since it can,
>and will, re-occur.

Hi again,

With apology, I do not understand your comment above...

Of course, I understand that it might occur again, but what
do you mean by my taking note of it?

Thanks again,
--
Kenneth

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Author
19 Mar 2009 8:58 PM
smlunatick
On Mar 19, 12:47 am, Kenneth <use...@soleSPAMLESSassociates.com>
wrote:
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> On Wed, 18 Mar 2009 13:27:33 -0700 (PDT), smlunatick
>
> <yves***@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >It would be easier to take note of this previous problem since it can,
> >and will, re-occur.
>
> Hi again,
>
> With apology, I do not understand your comment above...
>
> Of course, I understand that it might occur again, but what
> do you mean by my taking note of it?
>
> Thanks again,
> --
> Kenneth
>
> If you email... Please remove the "SPAMLESS."

Note which possible "devices" that might get the "same" IP and write
down the steps you did to fix this problem.

Apple is reported to be releasing a revised platform for the iPhone.
I live in Canada, where the only authorized cell carrier of the iPhone
is "over-charging" the plan.  Because of this over-charge, it is
rumoured  that "only" Canadian Apple Store is refusing to sell the
iPhones.