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17 Apr 2009 10:58 PM
MZB
OK-- I just got my new Acer netbook. It's very nice.

Now, I have a problem.

I have a desktop in the basement with a Linksys Router and my regular
notebook upstairs.

Unfortunately, I no longer have the password for my router (long story -- it
got lost when I moved 3 years ago). So, I want to add my new netbook to my
network and have internet access. But the security settings will not allow
that.

I assume I will somehow have to hit the reset button to restore the Linksys
to its factory settings. Beyond that, I don't remember how to reset the
security settings that will now allow my netbook and notebook access. I'm
probably going to have one of my IT guys from work come over and do it (I'll
pay him, of course), unless someone here has some other better suggestions.

Mel

Author
17 Apr 2009 11:08 PM
Malke
MZB wrote:

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> OK-- I just got my new Acer netbook. It's very nice.
>
> Now, I have a problem.
>
> I have a desktop in the basement with a Linksys Router and my regular
> notebook upstairs.
>
> Unfortunately, I no longer have the password for my router (long story --
> it got lost when I moved 3 years ago). So, I want to add my new netbook to
> my network and have internet access. But the security settings will not
> allow that.
>
> I assume I will somehow have to hit the reset button to restore the
> Linksys to its factory settings. Beyond that, I don't remember how to
> reset the security settings that will now allow my netbook and notebook
> access. I'm probably going to have one of my IT guys from work come over
> and do it (I'll pay him, of course), unless someone here has some other
> better suggestions.

You don't need to pay anyone to do this because it is dead easy. With the
Linksys plugged in, look for a tiny reset button. It's on the back of mine
next to one of the wireless antennas. Press this button in - I use a pencil
point - and hold it for 30 seconds. Count them out. This will reset the
router to factory condition. Now configure your wireless network (general
instructions follow).

Have a computer connected to the router with an ethernet cable. Examples
given are for a Linksys router. Refer to your router manual or the router
mftr.'s website for default settings if you don't have a Linksys. Open a
browser such as Internet Explorer or Firefox and in the addressbar type:

http://192.168.1.1 [enter] (this is the router's default IP address, which
varies from router to router so check your manual)

This will bring you to router's login screen. The default username is left
blank and the Linksys default password is "admin" without the quotes. Enter
that information. You are now in the router's configuration utility. Your
configuration utility may differ slightly from mine.

Click on the Administration link at the top of the page. You want to change
the router's password from the default to something of your own. Enter your
new password. WRITE IT DOWN SOMEWHERE YOU WILL NOT LOSE IT. Re-enter the
password to confirm it and click the Save Settings button at the bottom of
the page. The router will restart and present you with the login box again.
Leave the username blank and put in your new password to get back into the
configuration utility.

Now click on the Wireless link at the top of the page. Change the Wireless
Network Name (SSID) from the default to something you will recognize. I
suggest that my clients not use their family name as the SSID. For example,
you might wish to name your wireless network "CastleAnthrax" or the
like. ;-)

Click the Save Settings and when you get the prompt that your changes were
successful, click on the Wireless Security link which is right next to the
Basic Wireless Settings link (where you changed your SSID). If you have a
newish computer, you will be able to set the Security Mode to
WPA2-Personal. Do that and enter a passphrase. The passphrase is what you
will enter on any computers that are allowed to connect to the wireless
network. An example might be something like, "Here be dragons, beware you
scurvy dogs!" WRITE IT DOWN SOMEWHERE YOU WILL NOT LOSE IT.

At this point, your router is configured and if the computer you were using
to configure the router is normally going to connect wirelessly, disconnect
the ethernet cable and the computer's wireless feature should see your new
network. Enter the passphrase you created to join the network exactly as
you wrote it (including spaces and punctuation, etc.) and start surfing.

Malke
--
MS-MVP
Elephant Boy Computers - Don't Panic!
http://www.elephantboycomputers.com/#FAQ
Author
18 Apr 2009 2:10 AM
MZB
Malke:

I'm confused about one thing. Currently, my desktop is connected to the
router via ethernet.

OK, let's say I follow your directions using the desktop.

I now turn on my laptop. I assume the laptop says I have a wireless
connection. I assume it will then ask me for a passphrase when I select that
connection?
I assume once I type in the passphrase, THAT FROM THAT POINT ON I WILL BE
SET (ie: I will not need to enter the passphrase again?).

If that's correct, then I repeat the process for the netbook, right?

One more question regarding security mode. I do NOT have a newish computer;
I have a Dell Dimension 2400 with XP Home SP 2. So I don't think I can
choose the WPA2- personal. So do I pick some other choice and is there still
a passphrase?

Mel



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"Malke" <malke@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
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> MZB wrote:
>
>> OK-- I just got my new Acer netbook. It's very nice.
>>
>> Now, I have a problem.
>>
>> I have a desktop in the basement with a Linksys Router and my regular
>> notebook upstairs.
>>
>> Unfortunately, I no longer have the password for my router (long story --
>> it got lost when I moved 3 years ago). So, I want to add my new netbook
>> to
>> my network and have internet access. But the security settings will not
>> allow that.
>>
>> I assume I will somehow have to hit the reset button to restore the
>> Linksys to its factory settings. Beyond that, I don't remember how to
>> reset the security settings that will now allow my netbook and notebook
>> access. I'm probably going to have one of my IT guys from work come over
>> and do it (I'll pay him, of course), unless someone here has some other
>> better suggestions.
>
> You don't need to pay anyone to do this because it is dead easy. With the
> Linksys plugged in, look for a tiny reset button. It's on the back of mine
> next to one of the wireless antennas. Press this button in - I use a
> pencil
> point - and hold it for 30 seconds. Count them out. This will reset the
> router to factory condition. Now configure your wireless network (general
> instructions follow).
>
> Have a computer connected to the router with an ethernet cable. Examples
> given are for a Linksys router. Refer to your router manual or the router
> mftr.'s website for default settings if you don't have a Linksys. Open a
> browser such as Internet Explorer or Firefox and in the addressbar type:
>
> http://192.168.1.1 [enter] (this is the router's default IP address, which
> varies from router to router so check your manual)
>
> This will bring you to router's login screen. The default username is left
> blank and the Linksys default password is "admin" without the quotes.
> Enter
> that information. You are now in the router's configuration utility. Your
> configuration utility may differ slightly from mine.
>
> Click on the Administration link at the top of the page. You want to
> change
> the router's password from the default to something of your own. Enter
> your
> new password. WRITE IT DOWN SOMEWHERE YOU WILL NOT LOSE IT. Re-enter the
> password to confirm it and click the Save Settings button at the bottom of
> the page. The router will restart and present you with the login box
> again.
> Leave the username blank and put in your new password to get back into the
> configuration utility.
>
> Now click on the Wireless link at the top of the page. Change the Wireless
> Network Name (SSID) from the default to something you will recognize. I
> suggest that my clients not use their family name as the SSID. For
> example,
> you might wish to name your wireless network "CastleAnthrax" or the
> like. ;-)
>
> Click the Save Settings and when you get the prompt that your changes were
> successful, click on the Wireless Security link which is right next to the
> Basic Wireless Settings link (where you changed your SSID). If you have a
> newish computer, you will be able to set the Security Mode to
> WPA2-Personal. Do that and enter a passphrase. The passphrase is what you
> will enter on any computers that are allowed to connect to the wireless
> network. An example might be something like, "Here be dragons, beware you
> scurvy dogs!" WRITE IT DOWN SOMEWHERE YOU WILL NOT LOSE IT.
>
> At this point, your router is configured and if the computer you were
> using
> to configure the router is normally going to connect wirelessly,
> disconnect
> the ethernet cable and the computer's wireless feature should see your new
> network. Enter the passphrase you created to join the network exactly as
> you wrote it (including spaces and punctuation, etc.) and start surfing.
>
> Malke
> --
> MS-MVP
> Elephant Boy Computers - Don't Panic!
> http://www.elephantboycomputers.com/#FAQ
>
Author
18 Apr 2009 3:42 AM
Lem
MZB wrote:
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> Malke:
>
> I'm confused about one thing. Currently, my desktop is connected to the
> router via ethernet.
>
> OK, let's say I follow your directions using the desktop.
>
> I now turn on my laptop. I assume the laptop says I have a wireless
> connection. I assume it will then ask me for a passphrase when I select that
> connection?
> I assume once I type in the passphrase, THAT FROM THAT POINT ON I WILL BE
> SET (ie: I will not need to enter the passphrase again?).
>
> If that's correct, then I repeat the process for the netbook, right?
>
> One more question regarding security mode. I do NOT have a newish computer;
> I have a Dell Dimension 2400 with XP Home SP 2. So I don't think I can
> choose the WPA2- personal. So do I pick some other choice and is there still
> a passphrase?
>
> Mel
>
>
>
> "Malke" <malke@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
> news:u$uh7F7vJHA.1208@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> MZB wrote:
>>
>>> OK-- I just got my new Acer netbook. It's very nice.
>>>
>>> Now, I have a problem.
>>>
>>> I have a desktop in the basement with a Linksys Router and my regular
>>> notebook upstairs.
>>>
>>> Unfortunately, I no longer have the password for my router (long story --
>>> it got lost when I moved 3 years ago). So, I want to add my new netbook
>>> to
>>> my network and have internet access. But the security settings will not
>>> allow that.
>>>
>>> I assume I will somehow have to hit the reset button to restore the
>>> Linksys to its factory settings. Beyond that, I don't remember how to
>>> reset the security settings that will now allow my netbook and notebook
>>> access. I'm probably going to have one of my IT guys from work come over
>>> and do it (I'll pay him, of course), unless someone here has some other
>>> better suggestions.
>> You don't need to pay anyone to do this because it is dead easy. With the
>> Linksys plugged in, look for a tiny reset button. It's on the back of mine
>> next to one of the wireless antennas. Press this button in - I use a
>> pencil
>> point - and hold it for 30 seconds. Count them out. This will reset the
>> router to factory condition. Now configure your wireless network (general
>> instructions follow).
>>
>> Have a computer connected to the router with an ethernet cable. Examples
>> given are for a Linksys router. Refer to your router manual or the router
>> mftr.'s website for default settings if you don't have a Linksys. Open a
>> browser such as Internet Explorer or Firefox and in the addressbar type:
>>
>> http://192.168.1.1 [enter] (this is the router's default IP address, which
>> varies from router to router so check your manual)
>>
>> This will bring you to router's login screen. The default username is left
>> blank and the Linksys default password is "admin" without the quotes.
>> Enter
>> that information. You are now in the router's configuration utility. Your
>> configuration utility may differ slightly from mine.
>>
>> Click on the Administration link at the top of the page. You want to
>> change
>> the router's password from the default to something of your own. Enter
>> your
>> new password. WRITE IT DOWN SOMEWHERE YOU WILL NOT LOSE IT. Re-enter the
>> password to confirm it and click the Save Settings button at the bottom of
>> the page. The router will restart and present you with the login box
>> again.
>> Leave the username blank and put in your new password to get back into the
>> configuration utility.
>>
>> Now click on the Wireless link at the top of the page. Change the Wireless
>> Network Name (SSID) from the default to something you will recognize. I
>> suggest that my clients not use their family name as the SSID. For
>> example,
>> you might wish to name your wireless network "CastleAnthrax" or the
>> like. ;-)
>>
>> Click the Save Settings and when you get the prompt that your changes were
>> successful, click on the Wireless Security link which is right next to the
>> Basic Wireless Settings link (where you changed your SSID). If you have a
>> newish computer, you will be able to set the Security Mode to
>> WPA2-Personal. Do that and enter a passphrase. The passphrase is what you
>> will enter on any computers that are allowed to connect to the wireless
>> network. An example might be something like, "Here be dragons, beware you
>> scurvy dogs!" WRITE IT DOWN SOMEWHERE YOU WILL NOT LOSE IT.
>>
>> At this point, your router is configured and if the computer you were
>> using
>> to configure the router is normally going to connect wirelessly,
>> disconnect
>> the ethernet cable and the computer's wireless feature should see your new
>> network. Enter the passphrase you created to join the network exactly as
>> you wrote it (including spaces and punctuation, etc.) and start surfing.
>>
>> Malke
>> --
>> MS-MVP
>> Elephant Boy Computers - Don't Panic!
>> http://www.elephantboycomputers.com/#FAQ
>>
>
>

You should have WPA-Personal. Pick that. And yes, you do need a
passphrase.  If you have a choice between WPA_Personal with "AES" or
with "TKIP," pick "AES" -- if *all* of the wireless devices support this.

Once you successfully connect to a secure wireless network, Windows XP
will save the password. You won't need to enter it again from that
computer.  This is one more reason to be sure to change the SSID of your
network from its default (Linksys) to something unique to you.
Otherwise you may end up saving the password (or lack thereof) to some
other network with the same name.

--
Lem -- MS-MVP

To the moon and back with 2K words of RAM and 36K words of ROM.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_Guidance_Computer
http://history.nasa.gov/afj/compessay.htm
Author
18 Apr 2009 3:55 AM
MZB
Lem:

My devices are:

Dell Dim 2400 (about 7 years old, but not my wireless device--this is cabled
with the router).

Dell Inspiron 2200 -- about 4 years old

A new Acer One Aspire Netbook.

Is there any way I can tell if these support the AES choice before I make
the choice?

Mel



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"Lem" <lemp40@unknownhost> wrote in message
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> MZB wrote:
>> Malke:
>>
>> I'm confused about one thing. Currently, my desktop is connected to the
>> router via ethernet.
>>
>> OK, let's say I follow your directions using the desktop.
>>
>> I now turn on my laptop. I assume the laptop says I have a wireless
>> connection. I assume it will then ask me for a passphrase when I select
>> that connection?
>> I assume once I type in the passphrase, THAT FROM THAT POINT ON I WILL BE
>> SET (ie: I will not need to enter the passphrase again?).
>>
>> If that's correct, then I repeat the process for the netbook, right?
>>
>> One more question regarding security mode. I do NOT have a newish
>> computer; I have a Dell Dimension 2400 with XP Home SP 2. So I don't
>> think I can choose the WPA2- personal. So do I pick some other choice and
>> is there still a passphrase?
>>
>> Mel
>>
>>
>>
>> "Malke" <malke@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
>> news:u$uh7F7vJHA.1208@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>> MZB wrote:
>>>
>>>> OK-- I just got my new Acer netbook. It's very nice.
>>>>
>>>> Now, I have a problem.
>>>>
>>>> I have a desktop in the basement with a Linksys Router and my regular
>>>> notebook upstairs.
>>>>
>>>> Unfortunately, I no longer have the password for my router (long
>>>> story --
>>>> it got lost when I moved 3 years ago). So, I want to add my new netbook
>>>> to
>>>> my network and have internet access. But the security settings will not
>>>> allow that.
>>>>
>>>> I assume I will somehow have to hit the reset button to restore the
>>>> Linksys to its factory settings. Beyond that, I don't remember how to
>>>> reset the security settings that will now allow my netbook and notebook
>>>> access. I'm probably going to have one of my IT guys from work come
>>>> over
>>>> and do it (I'll pay him, of course), unless someone here has some other
>>>> better suggestions.
>>> You don't need to pay anyone to do this because it is dead easy. With
>>> the
>>> Linksys plugged in, look for a tiny reset button. It's on the back of
>>> mine
>>> next to one of the wireless antennas. Press this button in - I use a
>>> pencil
>>> point - and hold it for 30 seconds. Count them out. This will reset the
>>> router to factory condition. Now configure your wireless network
>>> (general
>>> instructions follow).
>>>
>>> Have a computer connected to the router with an ethernet cable. Examples
>>> given are for a Linksys router. Refer to your router manual or the
>>> router
>>> mftr.'s website for default settings if you don't have a Linksys. Open a
>>> browser such as Internet Explorer or Firefox and in the addressbar type:
>>>
>>> http://192.168.1.1 [enter] (this is the router's default IP address,
>>> which
>>> varies from router to router so check your manual)
>>>
>>> This will bring you to router's login screen. The default username is
>>> left
>>> blank and the Linksys default password is "admin" without the quotes.
>>> Enter
>>> that information. You are now in the router's configuration utility.
>>> Your
>>> configuration utility may differ slightly from mine.
>>>
>>> Click on the Administration link at the top of the page. You want to
>>> change
>>> the router's password from the default to something of your own. Enter
>>> your
>>> new password. WRITE IT DOWN SOMEWHERE YOU WILL NOT LOSE IT. Re-enter the
>>> password to confirm it and click the Save Settings button at the bottom
>>> of
>>> the page. The router will restart and present you with the login box
>>> again.
>>> Leave the username blank and put in your new password to get back into
>>> the
>>> configuration utility.
>>>
>>> Now click on the Wireless link at the top of the page. Change the
>>> Wireless
>>> Network Name (SSID) from the default to something you will recognize. I
>>> suggest that my clients not use their family name as the SSID. For
>>> example,
>>> you might wish to name your wireless network "CastleAnthrax" or the
>>> like. ;-)
>>>
>>> Click the Save Settings and when you get the prompt that your changes
>>> were
>>> successful, click on the Wireless Security link which is right next to
>>> the
>>> Basic Wireless Settings link (where you changed your SSID). If you have
>>> a
>>> newish computer, you will be able to set the Security Mode to
>>> WPA2-Personal. Do that and enter a passphrase. The passphrase is what
>>> you
>>> will enter on any computers that are allowed to connect to the wireless
>>> network. An example might be something like, "Here be dragons, beware
>>> you
>>> scurvy dogs!" WRITE IT DOWN SOMEWHERE YOU WILL NOT LOSE IT.
>>>
>>> At this point, your router is configured and if the computer you were
>>> using
>>> to configure the router is normally going to connect wirelessly,
>>> disconnect
>>> the ethernet cable and the computer's wireless feature should see your
>>> new
>>> network. Enter the passphrase you created to join the network exactly as
>>> you wrote it (including spaces and punctuation, etc.) and start surfing.
>>>
>>> Malke
>>> --
>>> MS-MVP
>>> Elephant Boy Computers - Don't Panic!
>>> http://www.elephantboycomputers.com/#FAQ
>>>
>>
>>
>
> You should have WPA-Personal. Pick that. And yes, you do need a
> passphrase.  If you have a choice between WPA_Personal with "AES" or with
> "TKIP," pick "AES" -- if *all* of the wireless devices support this.
>
> Once you successfully connect to a secure wireless network, Windows XP
> will save the password. You won't need to enter it again from that
> computer.  This is one more reason to be sure to change the SSID of your
> network from its default (Linksys) to something unique to you. Otherwise
> you may end up saving the password (or lack thereof) to some other network
> with the same name.
>
> --
> Lem -- MS-MVP
>
> To the moon and back with 2K words of RAM and 36K words of ROM.
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_Guidance_Computer
> http://history.nasa.gov/afj/compessay.htm
Author
18 Apr 2009 6:32 AM
Lem
MZB wrote:
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> Lem:
>
> My devices are:
>
> Dell Dim 2400 (about 7 years old, but not my wireless device--this is cabled
> with the router).
>
> Dell Inspiron 2200 -- about 4 years old
>
> A new Acer One Aspire Netbook.
>
> Is there any way I can tell if these support the AES choice before I make
> the choice?
>
> Mel
>
>
>
> "Lem" <lemp40@unknownhost> wrote in message
> news:%23zhi6e9vJHA.4980@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> MZB wrote:
>>> Malke:
>>>
>>> I'm confused about one thing. Currently, my desktop is connected to the
>>> router via ethernet.
>>>
>>> OK, let's say I follow your directions using the desktop.
>>>
>>> I now turn on my laptop. I assume the laptop says I have a wireless
>>> connection. I assume it will then ask me for a passphrase when I select
>>> that connection?
>>> I assume once I type in the passphrase, THAT FROM THAT POINT ON I WILL BE
>>> SET (ie: I will not need to enter the passphrase again?).
>>>
>>> If that's correct, then I repeat the process for the netbook, right?
>>>
>>> One more question regarding security mode. I do NOT have a newish
>>> computer; I have a Dell Dimension 2400 with XP Home SP 2. So I don't
>>> think I can choose the WPA2- personal. So do I pick some other choice and
>>> is there still a passphrase?
>>>
>>> Mel
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "Malke" <malke@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
>>> news:u$uh7F7vJHA.1208@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>> MZB wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> OK-- I just got my new Acer netbook. It's very nice.
>>>>>
>>>>> Now, I have a problem.
>>>>>
>>>>> I have a desktop in the basement with a Linksys Router and my regular
>>>>> notebook upstairs.
>>>>>
>>>>> Unfortunately, I no longer have the password for my router (long
>>>>> story --
>>>>> it got lost when I moved 3 years ago). So, I want to add my new netbook
>>>>> to
>>>>> my network and have internet access. But the security settings will not
>>>>> allow that.
>>>>>
>>>>> I assume I will somehow have to hit the reset button to restore the
>>>>> Linksys to its factory settings. Beyond that, I don't remember how to
>>>>> reset the security settings that will now allow my netbook and notebook
>>>>> access. I'm probably going to have one of my IT guys from work come
>>>>> over
>>>>> and do it (I'll pay him, of course), unless someone here has some other
>>>>> better suggestions.
>>>> You don't need to pay anyone to do this because it is dead easy. With
>>>> the
>>>> Linksys plugged in, look for a tiny reset button. It's on the back of
>>>> mine
>>>> next to one of the wireless antennas. Press this button in - I use a
>>>> pencil
>>>> point - and hold it for 30 seconds. Count them out. This will reset the
>>>> router to factory condition. Now configure your wireless network
>>>> (general
>>>> instructions follow).
>>>>
>>>> Have a computer connected to the router with an ethernet cable. Examples
>>>> given are for a Linksys router. Refer to your router manual or the
>>>> router
>>>> mftr.'s website for default settings if you don't have a Linksys. Open a
>>>> browser such as Internet Explorer or Firefox and in the addressbar type:
>>>>
>>>> http://192.168.1.1 [enter] (this is the router's default IP address,
>>>> which
>>>> varies from router to router so check your manual)
>>>>
>>>> This will bring you to router's login screen. The default username is
>>>> left
>>>> blank and the Linksys default password is "admin" without the quotes.
>>>> Enter
>>>> that information. You are now in the router's configuration utility.
>>>> Your
>>>> configuration utility may differ slightly from mine.
>>>>
>>>> Click on the Administration link at the top of the page. You want to
>>>> change
>>>> the router's password from the default to something of your own. Enter
>>>> your
>>>> new password. WRITE IT DOWN SOMEWHERE YOU WILL NOT LOSE IT. Re-enter the
>>>> password to confirm it and click the Save Settings button at the bottom
>>>> of
>>>> the page. The router will restart and present you with the login box
>>>> again.
>>>> Leave the username blank and put in your new password to get back into
>>>> the
>>>> configuration utility.
>>>>
>>>> Now click on the Wireless link at the top of the page. Change the
>>>> Wireless
>>>> Network Name (SSID) from the default to something you will recognize. I
>>>> suggest that my clients not use their family name as the SSID. For
>>>> example,
>>>> you might wish to name your wireless network "CastleAnthrax" or the
>>>> like. ;-)
>>>>
>>>> Click the Save Settings and when you get the prompt that your changes
>>>> were
>>>> successful, click on the Wireless Security link which is right next to
>>>> the
>>>> Basic Wireless Settings link (where you changed your SSID). If you have
>>>> a
>>>> newish computer, you will be able to set the Security Mode to
>>>> WPA2-Personal. Do that and enter a passphrase. The passphrase is what
>>>> you
>>>> will enter on any computers that are allowed to connect to the wireless
>>>> network. An example might be something like, "Here be dragons, beware
>>>> you
>>>> scurvy dogs!" WRITE IT DOWN SOMEWHERE YOU WILL NOT LOSE IT.
>>>>
>>>> At this point, your router is configured and if the computer you were
>>>> using
>>>> to configure the router is normally going to connect wirelessly,
>>>> disconnect
>>>> the ethernet cable and the computer's wireless feature should see your
>>>> new
>>>> network. Enter the passphrase you created to join the network exactly as
>>>> you wrote it (including spaces and punctuation, etc.) and start surfing.
>>>>
>>>> Malke
>>>> --
>>>> MS-MVP
>>>> Elephant Boy Computers - Don't Panic!
>>>> http://www.elephantboycomputers.com/#FAQ
>>>>
>>>
>> You should have WPA-Personal. Pick that. And yes, you do need a
>> passphrase.  If you have a choice between WPA_Personal with "AES" or with
>> "TKIP," pick "AES" -- if *all* of the wireless devices support this.
>>
>> Once you successfully connect to a secure wireless network, Windows XP
>> will save the password. You won't need to enter it again from that
>> computer.  This is one more reason to be sure to change the SSID of your
>> network from its default (Linksys) to something unique to you. Otherwise
>> you may end up saving the password (or lack thereof) to some other network
>> with the same name.
>>
>> --
>> Lem -- MS-MVP
>>
>> To the moon and back with 2K words of RAM and 36K words of ROM.
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_Guidance_Computer
>> http://history.nasa.gov/afj/compessay.htm
>
>

Based just on time of purchase, the Acer probably can handle WPA2 and
WPA (AES).
It obviously doesn't matter for the desktop that doesn't use wireless.
Can't tell about the Dell laptop. It depends on the wireless adapter
installed (and perhaps the recency of its driver).

In any case, start with your router.  Some routers are clever enough to
handle both. You'll have to read the router's manual. Don't obsess about
it, however. WPA with TKIP is still pretty good even though it can be
cracked with some effort. See summary by MVP Jack below.

In general, set up wireless networks with no security first.  Make sure
that all your wireless devices can connect successfully.  Then configure
security on the router.  Start with WPA-Personal (AES). If your wireless
devices connect, you're done.  If one or both can't, change the router
to WPA-Personal (TKIP).

Here's a summary from MVP Jack:

From the weakest to the strongest, Wireless security capacity is.
No Security
Switching Off SSID (same as No Security. SSID can be easily sniffed even
if it is Off)
MAC Filtering______(Band Aid if nothing else is available, MAC number
can be easily Spoofed).
WEP64____(Easy, to "Break" by knowledgeable people).
WEP128___(A little Harder, but "Hackable" too).
-------------------
The three above are Not considered safe.
Safe Starts here at WPA.
-------------------
WPA-PSK__(Very Hard to Break).
WPA-AES__(Not functionally Breakable)
WPA2____ (Not functionally Breakable).
Note 1: WPA-AES the the current entry level rendition of WPA2.
Note 2: If you use WinXP bellow SP3 and did not updated it, you would
have to download the WPA2 patch from Microsoft.
<http://support.microsoft.com/kb/893357>
The documentation of your Wireless devices (Wireless Router, and
Wireless Computer's Card) should state the type of security that is
available with your Wireless hardware.
All devices MUST be set to the same security level using the same pass
phrase.
Therefore the security must be set according what ever is the best
possible of one of the Wireless devices.
I.e. even if most of your system might be capable to be configured to
the max. with WPA2, but one device is only capable to be configured to
max . of WEP, to whole system must be configured to WEP.
If you need more good security and one device (like a Wireless card that
can do WEP only) is holding better security for the whole Network,
replace the device with a better one.
The Core differences between WEP, WPA, and WPA2 -
<http://www.ezlan.net/wpa_wep.html>

--
Lem -- MS-MVP

To the moon and back with 2K words of RAM and 36K words of ROM.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_Guidance_Computer
http://history.nasa.gov/afj/compessay.htm
Author
18 Apr 2009 1:23 PM
Malke
MZB wrote:

> I'm confused about one thing. Currently, my desktop is connected to the
> router via ethernet.
>
> OK, let's say I follow your directions using the desktop.
>
> I now turn on my laptop. I assume the laptop says I have a wireless
> connection. I assume it will then ask me for a passphrase when I select
> that connection?
> I assume once I type in the passphrase, THAT FROM THAT POINT ON I WILL BE
> SET (ie: I will not need to enter the passphrase again?).

Yes, that's correct.

> If that's correct, then I repeat the process for the netbook, right?

Yes, and for any other computers that are connecting to your network
wirelessly. In most cases, the wireless network manager (whether you are
using the one that comes with Windows or the one that comes with the
wireless adapter) will pop up and say something like, "there are wireless
networks available. Click here to join one" (paraphrasing). You click there
and will be presented with a list of all the wireless networks broadcasting
in your area. Your own network will be there. You click to connect and
enter the passphrase.

> One more question regarding security mode. I do NOT have a newish
> computer; I have a Dell Dimension 2400 with XP Home SP 2. So I don't think
> I can choose the WPA2- personal. So do I pick some other choice and is
> there still a passphrase?

The Dimension 2400 is a desktop computer. If it is connected wired
(ethernet), your wireless settings have nothing to do with that machine.
You're just going to use the desktop machine to configure the router. Think
about it logically - if you tried to configured the router from a machine
with a wireless connection, if the wireless settings aren't right you won't
be able to connect or if they are right and you change them you'll lose the
connection! Hence the reason for configuring the router from a machine
connected to it with an ethernet cable.

The reason for my "if you have a newish computer" is that if you have a
5-year-old laptop it is possible that its wireless hardware doesn't support
WPA2. I doubt this is your case so don't worry about it. If you *do* have
an ancient laptop with hardware that doesn't support WPA2, use WPA instead.

Malke
--
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Elephant Boy Computers - Don't Panic!
http://www.elephantboycomputers.com/#FAQ
Author
17 Apr 2009 11:15 PM
Steve Winograd
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On Fri, 17 Apr 2009 18:58:17 -0400, "MZB" <m**@noway.prudigy.net>
wrote:

>OK-- I just got my new Acer netbook. It's very nice.
>
>Now, I have a problem.
>
>I have a desktop in the basement with a Linksys Router and my regular
>notebook upstairs.
>
>Unfortunately, I no longer have the password for my router (long story -- it
>got lost when I moved 3 years ago). So, I want to add my new netbook to my
>network and have internet access. But the security settings will not allow
>that.
>
>I assume I will somehow have to hit the reset button to restore the Linksys
>to its factory settings. Beyond that, I don't remember how to reset the
>security settings that will now allow my netbook and notebook access. I'm
>probably going to have one of my IT guys from work come over and do it (I'll
>pay him, of course), unless someone here has some other better suggestions.
>
>Mel

Get the User Manual here by typing the router's model number where
indicated:

http://www.linksysbycisco.com/US/en/support#
--
Best Wishes,
Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Desktop Experience)

Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group
for everyone to see.  I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions
addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups.

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http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
Author
18 Apr 2009 1:29 AM
Lem
MZB wrote:
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> OK-- I just got my new Acer netbook. It's very nice.
>
> Now, I have a problem.
>
> I have a desktop in the basement with a Linksys Router and my regular
> notebook upstairs.
>
> Unfortunately, I no longer have the password for my router (long story -- it
> got lost when I moved 3 years ago). So, I want to add my new netbook to my
> network and have internet access. But the security settings will not allow
> that.
>
> I assume I will somehow have to hit the reset button to restore the Linksys
> to its factory settings. Beyond that, I don't remember how to reset the
> security settings that will now allow my netbook and notebook access. I'm
> probably going to have one of my IT guys from work come over and do it (I'll
> pay him, of course), unless someone here has some other better suggestions.
>
> Mel
>
>

Both Malke and Steve have given you good advice.

However, before you reset the router to its factory default, if you did
*not* set a password to gain access to the router's configuration
utility, follow Malke's directions to log into the router, navigate to
the Wireless Security section and you should see, in clear, the password
needed to access your wireless network.

--
Lem -- MS-MVP

To the moon and back with 2K words of RAM and 36K words of ROM.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_Guidance_Computer
http://history.nasa.gov/afj/compessay.htm
Author
19 Apr 2009 4:17 PM
MZB
Lem and Malke



Thanks for your advice on re-setting my router.

I was all set to follow your instructions, but I figured I would still
peruse the manual for my Linksys WRT54G router.

So, I am now confused again. If all I need to do is follow you're the
instructions mentioned in the thread and ignore everything else, I'm fine.
But from reading the manual, I have the following specific questions::

1) It says on the basic set-up screen, enter settings provided by my ISP. Do
you know what that is? Is it something I can just get from my computer? eg:
would it be the subnet mask and stuff that I can get via ipconfig/all? If
so, I will print that out before resetting the router. (I will not see that
specific screen until I reset my router!) Or will it just default to what I
need? My ISP is Charter. I would rather not have to play phone tag trying to
contact them. I'd rather try and get the information from my computer
settings!

2) Do I need to change the starting IP address. The manual says "because the
Router's default IP address is 192.168.1.1, the starting IP address must be
192.168.1.2 or greater, but smaller than 192.167.1.253. The default starting
IP address is 192.168.1.100. Does this mean I can't just go with the
default?

3) They talk about the MAC address clone. Do I need to mess around with
that?

4) Advanced Routing - do I have to do anything with that

5) The Wireless Tab - Basic Wireless Settings. Is this where I put in the
SSID name? Also, do I ENABLE or DISABLE the broadcast of my router's SSID. I
seem to vaguely recall that one worked better than the other. With one
setting it took my laptop a long time each time to find the connection. The
other was instant. Does this make any sense? Finally, they talk about
selecting the wireless channel to correspond with my network settings. What
is that?

6) Should I filter via MAC addresses.? If so, I assume I just enter the MAC
address for each of my two laptops? Where is my MAC address (or is it the
same as the Physical Address that I get via ipconfig/all)?







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"Lem" <lemp40@unknownhost> wrote in message
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> MZB wrote:
>> OK-- I just got my new Acer netbook. It's very nice.
>>
>> Now, I have a problem.
>>
>> I have a desktop in the basement with a Linksys Router and my regular
>> notebook upstairs.
>>
>> Unfortunately, I no longer have the password for my router (long story -- 
>> it got lost when I moved 3 years ago). So, I want to add my new netbook
>> to my network and have internet access. But the security settings will
>> not allow that.
>>
>> I assume I will somehow have to hit the reset button to restore the
>> Linksys to its factory settings. Beyond that, I don't remember how to
>> reset the security settings that will now allow my netbook and notebook
>> access. I'm probably going to have one of my IT guys from work come over
>> and do it (I'll pay him, of course), unless someone here has some other
>> better suggestions.
>>
>> Mel
>
> Both Malke and Steve have given you good advice.
>
> However, before you reset the router to its factory default, if you did
> *not* set a password to gain access to the router's configuration utility,
> follow Malke's directions to log into the router, navigate to the Wireless
> Security section and you should see, in clear, the password needed to
> access your wireless network.
>
> --
> Lem -- MS-MVP
>
> To the moon and back with 2K words of RAM and 36K words of ROM.
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_Guidance_Computer
> http://history.nasa.gov/afj/compessay.htm
Author
19 Apr 2009 4:54 PM
Malke
MZB wrote:

Comments inline:

> 1) It says on the basic set-up screen, enter settings provided by my ISP.
> Do you know what that is? Is it something I can just get from my computer?

It means that if you have cable Internet, for the connection you just set
the router to do DHCP. If you have DSL Internet, you usually select PPoe
and enter the username and password which you chose when originally setting
up the DSL connection. This isn't something you get from your computer.
Cable doesn't require a username/password to use the Internet; DSL does.

> 2) Do I need to change the starting IP address. The manual says "because
> the Router's default IP address is 192.168.1.1, the starting IP address
> must be 192.168.1.2 or greater, but smaller than 192.167.1.253. The
> default starting IP address is 192.168.1.100. Does this mean I can't just
> go with the default?

No. Just go with the default.

> 3) They talk about the MAC address clone. Do I need to mess around with
> that?

Not usually. Older cable modems would sometimes bind to a particular network
adapter's MAC address (this is part of the hardware) but I haven't seen
this in many years.

> 4) Advanced Routing - do I have to do anything with that

No.
>
> 5) The Wireless Tab - Basic Wireless Settings. Is this where I put in the
> SSID name? Also, do I ENABLE or DISABLE the broadcast of my router's SSID.

If you will re-read what I originally wrote you, it will help you. The SSID
is your wireless network name. The default name is Linksys. Change this.
You want to enable broadcasting as not broadcasting provides no security
benefit and causes issues.

Generally you can leave the wireless channel at default.

> 6) Should I filter via MAC addresses.? If so, I assume I just enter the
> MAC address for each of my two laptops? Where is my MAC address (or is it
> the same as the Physical Address that I get via ipconfig/all)?

No. Don't add unnecessary complexity to this. Here is my full router setup
boilerplate for your convenience once again. Take the parts that are
applicable to your situation. Setting up a router and a secure wireless
connection normally takes only a few minutes.
*****
Setting up a router is quite simple. Normally you run the CD that came with
the router and follow the instructions. If you're running Vista perhaps the
CD that came with the router won't work; I don't know this. But you can set
up the router without a CD. Note that if you have cable Internet, for the
connection you just set the router to do DHCP (or there may even be a
choice of cable for you to select). If you have DSL Internet, you usually
select PPoe and enter the username and password which you chose when
originally setting up the DSL connection. So:

1. Turn off the power to your cable modem.
2. Attach a cat5e ethernet cable (usually provided with the router) going
from the router's Internet/WAN port to the cable modem's ethernet port.
3. Attach a cat5e ethernet cable going from your computer's network adapter
to one of the ports on the router. If you don't have an ethernet cable
(because you were using USB), you will need to go to the store and buy one.
4. Turn on the cable modem. After all the lights are on, turn on the router.

To configure the router:

Have a computer connected to the router with an ethernet cable. Examples
given are for a Linksys router. Refer to your router manual or the router
mftr.'s website for default settings if you don't have a Linksys. Open a
browser such as Internet Explorer or Firefox and in the addressbar type:

http://192.168.1.1 [enter] (this is the router's default IP address, which
varies from router to router so check your manual)

This will bring you to router's login screen. The default username is left
blank and the Linksys default password is "admin" without the quotes. Enter
that information. You are now in the router's configuration utility. Your
configuration utility may differ slightly from mine. The first thing to do
is change the default password because *everyone* knows the default
passwords for various routers.

Click on the Administration link at the top of the page. Enter your new
password. WRITE IT DOWN SOMEWHERE YOU WILL NOT LOSE IT. Re-enter the
password to confirm it and click the Save Settings button at the bottom of
the page. The router will restart and present you with the login box again.
Leave the username blank and put in your new password to get back into the
configuration utility.

Now click on the Wireless link at the top of the page. Change the Wireless
Network Name (SSID) from the default to something you will recognize. I
suggest that my clients not use their family name as the SSID. For example,
you might wish to name your wireless network "CastleAnthrax" or the
like. ;-)

Click the Save Settings and when you get the prompt that your changes were
successful, click on the Wireless Security link which is right next to the
Basic Wireless Settings link (where you changed your SSID). Most computers
purchased within the last 4 years have wireless hardware that will support
WPA2-Personal (also called WPA2-PSK). This is the encryption level you
want. If your wireless hardware is older, use WPA. Do not use WEP as that
is easily cracked within minutes. So go ahead and set the Security Mode to
WPA2-Personal. Do that and enter a passphrase. For example, you might use
the passphrase, "Here be dragons, beware you scurvy dogs!". The passphrase
is what you will enter on any computers that are allowed to connect to the
wireless network. WRITE IT DOWN SOMEWHERE YOU WILL NOT LOSE IT.

At this point, your router is configured and if the computer you were using
to configure the router is normally going to connect wirelessly, disconnect
the ethernet cable and the computer's wireless feature should see your new
network. Enter the passphrase you created (exactly as you wrote it with all
capitalization and punctuation) to join the network and start surfing.
*****

Malke
-
MS-MVP
Elephant Boy Computers - Don't Panic!
http://www.elephantboycomputers.com/#FAQ
Author
19 Apr 2009 5:44 PM
MZB
Thanks for the clarification. I appreciate the time you took to respond.

Mel
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"Malke" <malke@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
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> MZB wrote:
>
> Comments inline:
>
>> 1) It says on the basic set-up screen, enter settings provided by my ISP.
>> Do you know what that is? Is it something I can just get from my
>> computer?
>
> It means that if you have cable Internet, for the connection you just set
> the router to do DHCP. If you have DSL Internet, you usually select PPoe
> and enter the username and password which you chose when originally
> setting
> up the DSL connection. This isn't something you get from your computer.
> Cable doesn't require a username/password to use the Internet; DSL does.
>
>> 2) Do I need to change the starting IP address. The manual says "because
>> the Router's default IP address is 192.168.1.1, the starting IP address
>> must be 192.168.1.2 or greater, but smaller than 192.167.1.253. The
>> default starting IP address is 192.168.1.100. Does this mean I can't just
>> go with the default?
>
> No. Just go with the default.
>
>> 3) They talk about the MAC address clone. Do I need to mess around with
>> that?
>
> Not usually. Older cable modems would sometimes bind to a particular
> network
> adapter's MAC address (this is part of the hardware) but I haven't seen
> this in many years.
>
>> 4) Advanced Routing - do I have to do anything with that
>
> No.
>>
>> 5) The Wireless Tab - Basic Wireless Settings. Is this where I put in the
>> SSID name? Also, do I ENABLE or DISABLE the broadcast of my router's
>> SSID.
>
> If you will re-read what I originally wrote you, it will help you. The
> SSID
> is your wireless network name. The default name is Linksys. Change this.
> You want to enable broadcasting as not broadcasting provides no security
> benefit and causes issues.
>
> Generally you can leave the wireless channel at default.
>
>> 6) Should I filter via MAC addresses.? If so, I assume I just enter the
>> MAC address for each of my two laptops? Where is my MAC address (or is it
>> the same as the Physical Address that I get via ipconfig/all)?
>
> No. Don't add unnecessary complexity to this. Here is my full router setup
> boilerplate for your convenience once again. Take the parts that are
> applicable to your situation. Setting up a router and a secure wireless
> connection normally takes only a few minutes.
> *****
> Setting up a router is quite simple. Normally you run the CD that came
> with
> the router and follow the instructions. If you're running Vista perhaps
> the
> CD that came with the router won't work; I don't know this. But you can
> set
> up the router without a CD. Note that if you have cable Internet, for the
> connection you just set the router to do DHCP (or there may even be a
> choice of cable for you to select). If you have DSL Internet, you usually
> select PPoe and enter the username and password which you chose when
> originally setting up the DSL connection. So:
>
> 1. Turn off the power to your cable modem.
> 2. Attach a cat5e ethernet cable (usually provided with the router) going
> from the router's Internet/WAN port to the cable modem's ethernet port.
> 3. Attach a cat5e ethernet cable going from your computer's network
> adapter
> to one of the ports on the router. If you don't have an ethernet cable
> (because you were using USB), you will need to go to the store and buy
> one.
> 4. Turn on the cable modem. After all the lights are on, turn on the
> router.
>
> To configure the router:
>
> Have a computer connected to the router with an ethernet cable. Examples
> given are for a Linksys router. Refer to your router manual or the router
> mftr.'s website for default settings if you don't have a Linksys. Open a
> browser such as Internet Explorer or Firefox and in the addressbar type:
>
> http://192.168.1.1 [enter] (this is the router's default IP address, which
> varies from router to router so check your manual)
>
> This will bring you to router's login screen. The default username is left
> blank and the Linksys default password is "admin" without the quotes.
> Enter
> that information. You are now in the router's configuration utility. Your
> configuration utility may differ slightly from mine. The first thing to do
> is change the default password because *everyone* knows the default
> passwords for various routers.
>
> Click on the Administration link at the top of the page. Enter your new
> password. WRITE IT DOWN SOMEWHERE YOU WILL NOT LOSE IT. Re-enter the
> password to confirm it and click the Save Settings button at the bottom of
> the page. The router will restart and present you with the login box
> again.
> Leave the username blank and put in your new password to get back into the
> configuration utility.
>
> Now click on the Wireless link at the top of the page. Change the Wireless
> Network Name (SSID) from the default to something you will recognize. I
> suggest that my clients not use their family name as the SSID. For
> example,
> you might wish to name your wireless network "CastleAnthrax" or the
> like. ;-)
>
> Click the Save Settings and when you get the prompt that your changes were
> successful, click on the Wireless Security link which is right next to the
> Basic Wireless Settings link (where you changed your SSID). Most computers
> purchased within the last 4 years have wireless hardware that will support
> WPA2-Personal (also called WPA2-PSK). This is the encryption level you
> want. If your wireless hardware is older, use WPA. Do not use WEP as that
> is easily cracked within minutes. So go ahead and set the Security Mode to
> WPA2-Personal. Do that and enter a passphrase. For example, you might use
> the passphrase, "Here be dragons, beware you scurvy dogs!". The passphrase
> is what you will enter on any computers that are allowed to connect to the
> wireless network. WRITE IT DOWN SOMEWHERE YOU WILL NOT LOSE IT.
>
> At this point, your router is configured and if the computer you were
> using
> to configure the router is normally going to connect wirelessly,
> disconnect
> the ethernet cable and the computer's wireless feature should see your new
> network. Enter the passphrase you created (exactly as you wrote it with
> all
> capitalization and punctuation) to join the network and start surfing.
> *****
>
> Malke
> -
> MS-MVP
> Elephant Boy Computers - Don't Panic!
> http://www.elephantboycomputers.com/#FAQ
>
Author
19 Apr 2009 6:00 PM
Malke
MZB wrote:

> Thanks for the clarification. I appreciate the time you took to respond.

No problem. You're very welcome.

Malke
--
MS-MVP
Elephant Boy Computers - Don't Panic!
http://www.elephantboycomputers.com/#FAQ
Author
21 Apr 2009 12:40 AM
MZB
I really want to thank all of you again.

It LITERALLY TOOK UNDER 3 MINUTES and I was taking my time and doing it
carefully.

All went smooth as silk. I did use WPA2 and selected AES.

It worked fine.

I've quickly installed my AV and Firewall and

Now to do the 25-30 Windows Updates

All looks good

Mel



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"Malke" <malke@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
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> MZB wrote:
>
>> Thanks for the clarification. I appreciate the time you took to respond.
>
> No problem. You're very welcome.
>
> Malke
> --
> MS-MVP
> Elephant Boy Computers - Don't Panic!
> http://www.elephantboycomputers.com/#FAQ
>
Author
21 Apr 2009 11:43 AM
Malke
MZB wrote:

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> I really want to thank all of you again.
>
> It LITERALLY TOOK UNDER 3 MINUTES and I was taking my time and doing it
> carefully.
>
> All went smooth as silk. I did use WPA2 and selected AES.
>
> It worked fine.
>
> I've quickly installed my AV and Firewall and
>
> Now to do the 25-30 Windows Updates
>
> All looks good

Awesome! I'm so glad that sorted it for you. Thanks for taking the time to
let me know.

Cheers,

Malke
--
MS-MVP
Elephant Boy Computers - Don't Panic!
http://www.elephantboycomputers.com/#FAQ