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14 May 2009 8:23 AM
alin83
Hello.I'm a novice.I will try my best to describe the problem.I have windows
xp sp3 32 bit.
When the PC starts and the desktop is displayed i have to wait about 1
minute for the lan icon which shows aqquiring network adress and eventually
it displays a yellow triangle(limited or no connectivity).After this i click
on my broadband icon and i can connect to the internet.
If i go to Lan Propreties and disable TCP/IP the error is not happening and
i can quicly connect without waiting for the yellow triangle to appear.
This started happening a few days ago i have tried uninstalling/rollback the
Realteck Driver no succes.I also have an windows image program i restored
back but the same thing happens.I only have an antivirus no other security
program
I just want everything to work as before.

Author
14 May 2009 11:56 AM
Malke
alin83 wrote:

> Hello.I'm a novice.I will try my best to describe the problem.I have
> windows xp sp3 32 bit.
> When the PC starts and the desktop is displayed i have to wait about 1
> minute for the lan icon which shows aqquiring network adress and
> eventually it displays a yellow triangle(limited or no connectivity).After
> this i click on my broadband icon and i can connect to the internet.
> If i go to Lan Propreties and disable TCP/IP the error is not happening
> and i can quicly connect without waiting for the yellow triangle to
> appear. This started happening a few days ago i have tried
> uninstalling/rollback the Realteck Driver no succes.I also have an windows
> image program i restored back but the same thing happens.I only have an
> antivirus no other security program
> I just want everything to work as before.

Since updating the drivers and restoring with a previously working image
doesn't work, uninstall the network adapter (NIC) and swap in a
known-working NIC. If your current NIC is on the motherboard, disable it in
the BIOS after you put in a PCI NIC and before you boot into Window. If
this solves the issue, a new NIC is extremely inexpensive. If you have a
laptop of course this will not be possible and you will have to call the
laptop mftr.'s tech support.

Malke
--
MS-MVP
Elephant Boy Computers - Don't Panic!
http://www.elephantboycomputers.com/#FAQ
Author
14 May 2009 12:02 PM
Pavel A.
alin83 wrote:
> Hello.I'm a novice.I will try my best to describe the problem.I have windows
> xp sp3 32 bit.
> When the PC starts and the desktop is displayed i have to wait about 1
> minute for the lan icon which shows aqquiring network adress and eventually
> it displays a yellow triangle(limited or no connectivity).After this i click
> on my broadband icon and i can connect to the internet.
> If i go to Lan Propreties and disable TCP/IP the error is not happening and
> i can quicly connect without waiting for the yellow triangle to appear.
> This started happening a few days ago i have tried uninstalling/rollback the
> Realteck Driver no succes.I also have an windows image program i restored
> back but the same thing happens.I only have an antivirus no other security
> program
> I just want everything to work as before.

It can be so because your broadband network connection is "tunneled"
thru the real ethernet card. Windows also tries to use the latter,
though this does not make sense, as you don't have other PCs on local
network. Your tcp/ip address belongs to the "virtual" broadband
connection. Since it works fine, the provider does everything right.

What's going is that your broadband modem/router for whatever reason
stopped to provide IP address to the real netcard - *or* the card had a
fixed IP address, but someone has switched it to use DHCP.

This is not a problem, because the netcard does not need an IP address.
So you want just silence this yellow thingie. Disabling TCPIP on the
netcard is just fine, other options are more troublesome.
Don't tamper with the netcard driver, it is innocent.

However, if the broadband router has a web interface, _and you want to
use it_, the netcard needs to get a correct IP address.
Your broadband service support can tell you what to do for this.

Regards,
-- pa
Author
14 May 2009 1:27 PM
smlunatick
On May 14, 9:23 am, alin83 <ali***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
> Hello.I'm a novice.I will try my best to describe the problem.I have windows
> xp sp3 32 bit.
> When the PC starts and the desktop is displayed i have to wait about 1
> minute for the lan icon which shows aqquiring network adress and eventually
> it displays a yellow triangle(limited or no connectivity).After this i click
> on my broadband icon and i can connect to the internet.
> If i go to Lan Propreties and disable TCP/IP the error is not happening and
> i can quicly connect without waiting for the yellow triangle to appear.
> This started happening a few days ago i have tried uninstalling/rollback the
> Realteck Driver no succes.I also have an windows image program i restored
> back but the same thing happens.I only have an antivirus no other security
> program
> I just want everything to work as before.

How is your "broadband" modem connected to your PC?

Your PC appears to require you to "connect" to your Internet Service
Provider.  This would mean you might have a PPPoE style connection
which requires a username / password.  The PPPoE system, in XP, is a
"virtual" driver than "may" use your Ethernet port (Realtek) or a USB
port.    This seems to be correctly set up on your PC.
Author
14 May 2009 6:36 PM
alin83
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"smlunatick" wrote:

> On May 14, 9:23 am, alin83 <ali***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
> > Hello.I'm a novice.I will try my best to describe the problem.I have windows
> > xp sp3 32 bit.
> > When the PC starts and the desktop is displayed i have to wait about 1
> > minute for the lan icon which shows aqquiring network adress and eventually
> > it displays a yellow triangle(limited or no connectivity).After this i click
> > on my broadband icon and i can connect to the internet.
> > If i go to Lan Propreties and disable TCP/IP the error is not happening and
> > i can quicly connect without waiting for the yellow triangle to appear.
> > This started happening a few days ago i have tried uninstalling/rollback the
> > Realteck Driver no succes.I also have an windows image program i restored
> > back but the same thing happens.I only have an antivirus no other security
> > program
> > I just want everything to work as before.
>
> How is your "broadband" modem connected to your PC?
>
> Your PC appears to require you to "connect" to your Internet Service
> Provider.  This would mean you might have a PPPoE style connection
> which requires a username / password.  The PPPoE system, in XP, is a
> "virtual" driver than "may" use your Ethernet port (Realtek) or a USB
> port.    This seems to be correctly set up on your PC.
> First Thank You all for the replies.I don't know how to multiquote so i'll post in this message.
       smlunatick yes my connection is exactly as you described.
       Malke from my understanding the NiC is not on the motherboard,i also
searched in BIoS there is no mention about it.I have a deskop PC.Still i
don't exactly understand what you are sayin with "uninstall the network
adapter (NIC) and swap in a known-working NIC".if you mean the Realteck
driver directly through control panel or by device manager,i already did that
       Pavel A thanks also for the info.I don't have a modem,no web
interface,i don't understand what you mean by "someone".Only i and my
girlfriend are usin the PC(from what you see i'm a total noob when it comes
to network) ,and we never had malware problems,and i have the OS Back-up
program just in case.
If there are no other solution i have to leave it as it is ,i'm frustarted
and hate pC's becouse of this ,but i guess it could be worse
Author
14 May 2009 7:56 PM
Malke
alin83 wrote:

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>
>
> "smlunatick" wrote:
>
>> On May 14, 9:23 am, alin83 <ali***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
>> > Hello.I'm a novice.I will try my best to describe the problem.I have
>> > windows xp sp3 32 bit.
>> > When the PC starts and the desktop is displayed i have to wait about 1
>> > minute for the lan icon which shows aqquiring network adress and
>> > eventually it displays a yellow triangle(limited or no
>> > connectivity).After this i click on my broadband icon and i can connect
>> > to the internet. If i go to Lan Propreties and disable TCP/IP the error
>> > is not happening and i can quicly connect without waiting for the
>> > yellow triangle to appear. This started happening a few days ago i have
>> > tried uninstalling/rollback the Realteck Driver no succes.I also have
>> > an windows image program i restored back but the same thing happens.I
>> > only have an antivirus no other security program
>> > I just want everything to work as before.
>>
>> How is your "broadband" modem connected to your PC?
>>
>> Your PC appears to require you to "connect" to your Internet Service
>> Provider.  This would mean you might have a PPPoE style connection
>> which requires a username / password.  The PPPoE system, in XP, is a
>> "virtual" driver than "may" use your Ethernet port (Realtek) or a USB
>> port.    This seems to be correctly set up on your PC.
>> First Thank You all for the replies.I don't know how to multiquote so
>> i'll post in this message.
>        smlunatick yes my connection is exactly as you described.
>        Malke from my understanding the NiC is not on the motherboard,i
>        also
> searched in BIoS there is no mention about it.I have a deskop PC.Still i
> don't exactly understand what you are sayin with "uninstall the network
> adapter (NIC) and swap in a known-working NIC".if you mean the Realteck
> driver directly through control panel or by device manager,i already did
> that
>        Pavel A thanks also for the info.I don't have a modem,no web
> interface,i don't understand what you mean by "someone".Only i and my
> girlfriend are usin the PC(from what you see i'm a total noob when it
> comes to network) ,and we never had malware problems,and i have the OS
> Back-up program just in case.
> If there are no other solution i have to leave it as it is ,i'm frustarted
> and hate pC's becouse of this ,but i guess it could be worse

What I'm saying is that you may have a hardware problem. It could be a
failing network adapter (the NIC) or it could be a failing DSL modem.
Contact your ISP and have them test the modem. For the NIC, I was
suggesting that you remove the old NIC and put in a new one. If this is
going to be too hard - and there is no shame in admitting this isn't your
cup of tea - have a competent local computer tech come on-site and check
things out for you. Don't use a BigComputerStore/GeekSquad type of place.
But I would call the ISP first since their tech support is free.

Malke
--
MS-MVP
Elephant Boy Computers - Don't Panic!
http://www.elephantboycomputers.com/#FAQ
Author
14 May 2009 11:54 PM
alin83
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"Malke" wrote:

> alin83 wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > "smlunatick" wrote:
> >
> >> On May 14, 9:23 am, alin83 <ali***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
> >> > Hello.I'm a novice.I will try my best to describe the problem.I have
> >> > windows xp sp3 32 bit.
> >> > When the PC starts and the desktop is displayed i have to wait about 1
> >> > minute for the lan icon which shows aqquiring network adress and
> >> > eventually it displays a yellow triangle(limited or no
> >> > connectivity).After this i click on my broadband icon and i can connect
> >> > to the internet. If i go to Lan Propreties and disable TCP/IP the error
> >> > is not happening and i can quicly connect without waiting for the
> >> > yellow triangle to appear. This started happening a few days ago i have
> >> > tried uninstalling/rollback the Realteck Driver no succes.I also have
> >> > an windows image program i restored back but the same thing happens.I
> >> > only have an antivirus no other security program
> >> > I just want everything to work as before.
> >>
> >> How is your "broadband" modem connected to your PC?
> >>
> >> Your PC appears to require you to "connect" to your Internet Service
> >> Provider.  This would mean you might have a PPPoE style connection
> >> which requires a username / password.  The PPPoE system, in XP, is a
> >> "virtual" driver than "may" use your Ethernet port (Realtek) or a USB
> >> port.    This seems to be correctly set up on your PC.
> >> First Thank You all for the replies.I don't know how to multiquote so
> >> i'll post in this message.
> >        smlunatick yes my connection is exactly as you described.
> >        Malke from my understanding the NiC is not on the motherboard,i
> >        also
> > searched in BIoS there is no mention about it.I have a deskop PC.Still i
> > don't exactly understand what you are sayin with "uninstall the network
> > adapter (NIC) and swap in a known-working NIC".if you mean the Realteck
> > driver directly through control panel or by device manager,i already did
> > that
> >        Pavel A thanks also for the info.I don't have a modem,no web
> > interface,i don't understand what you mean by "someone".Only i and my
> > girlfriend are usin the PC(from what you see i'm a total noob when it
> > comes to network) ,and we never had malware problems,and i have the OS
> > Back-up program just in case.
> > If there are no other solution i have to leave it as it is ,i'm frustarted
> > and hate pC's becouse of this ,but i guess it could be worse
>
> What I'm saying is that you may have a hardware problem. It could be a
> failing network adapter (the NIC) or it could be a failing DSL modem.
> Contact your ISP and have them test the modem. For the NIC, I was
> suggesting that you remove the old NIC and put in a new one. If this is
> going to be too hard - and there is no shame in admitting this isn't your
> cup of tea - have a competent local computer tech come on-site and check
> things out for you. Don't use a BigComputerStore/GeekSquad type of place.
> But I would call the ISP first since their tech support is free.
>
> Malke
> --
> MS-MVP
> Elephant Boy Computers - Don't Panic!
> http://www.elephantboycomputers.com/#FAQ
>
        K thanks.I see now.I called the ISP support today they told me it's
not their fault ,and suggested to leave everything as it is.I've seen a new
card is only 5$-10$,not a problem ,opening the PC is .It's bad that it's
hardware as i was opened to every "kamikaze"software experiment.
      "smlunatick" wrote:Then, how is the broadband "modem" connected to
your PC? Via a "thin"
cable to a USB or a "thicker" Ethernet style cable?

It is a ethernet style cable
Author
15 May 2009 3:28 PM
smlunatick
On May 15, 12:54 am, alin83 <ali***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
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> "Malke" wrote:
> > alin83 wrote:
>
> > > "smlunatick" wrote:
>
> > >> On May 14, 9:23 am, alin83 <ali***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
> > >> > Hello.I'm a novice.I will try my best to describe the problem.I have
> > >> > windows xp sp3 32 bit.
> > >> > When the PC starts and the desktop is displayed i have to wait about 1
> > >> > minute for the lan icon which shows aqquiring network adress and
> > >> > eventually it displays a yellow triangle(limited or no
> > >> > connectivity).After this i click on my broadband icon and i can connect
> > >> > to the internet. If i go to Lan Propreties and disable TCP/IP the error
> > >> > is not happening and i can quicly connect without waiting for the
> > >> > yellow triangle to appear. This started happening a few days ago i have
> > >> > tried uninstalling/rollback the Realteck Driver no succes.I also have
> > >> > an windows image program i restored back but the same thing happens.I
> > >> > only have an antivirus no other security program
> > >> > I just want everything to work as before.
>
> > >> How is your "broadband" modem connected to your PC?
>
> > >> Your PC appears to require you to "connect" to your Internet Service
> > >> Provider.  This would mean you might have a PPPoE style connection
> > >> which requires a username / password.  The PPPoE system, in XP, is a
> > >> "virtual" driver than "may" use your Ethernet port (Realtek) or a USB
> > >> port.    This seems to be correctly set up on your PC.
> > >> First Thank You all for the replies.I don't know how to multiquote so
> > >> i'll post in this message.
> > >        smlunatick yes my connection is exactly as you described.
> > >        Malke from my understanding the NiC is not on the motherboard,i
> > >        also
> > > searched in BIoS there is no mention about it.I have a deskop PC.Still i
> > > don't exactly understand what you are sayin with "uninstall the network
> > > adapter (NIC) and swap in a known-working NIC".if you mean the Realteck
> > > driver directly through control panel or by device manager,i already did
> > > that
> > >        Pavel A thanks also for the info.I don't have a modem,no web
> > > interface,i don't understand what you mean by "someone".Only i and my
> > > girlfriend are usin the PC(from what you see i'm a total noob when it
> > > comes to network) ,and we never had malware problems,and i have the OS
> > > Back-up program just in case.
> > > If there are no other solution i have to leave it as it is ,i'm frustarted
> > > and hate pC's becouse of this ,but i guess it could be worse
>
> > What I'm saying is that you may have a hardware problem. It could be a
> > failing network adapter (the NIC) or it could be a failing DSL modem.
> > Contact your ISP and have them test the modem. For the NIC, I was
> > suggesting that you remove the old NIC and put in a new one. If this is
> > going to be too hard - and there is no shame in admitting this isn't your
> > cup of tea - have a competent local computer tech come on-site and check
> > things out for you. Don't use a BigComputerStore/GeekSquad type of place.
> > But I would call the ISP first since their tech support is free.
>
> > Malke
> > --
> > MS-MVP
> > Elephant Boy Computers - Don't Panic!
> >http://www.elephantboycomputers.com/#FAQ
>
>         K thanks.I see now.I called the ISP support today they told me it's
> not their fault ,and suggested to leave everything as it is.I've seen a new
> card is only 5$-10$,not a problem ,opening the PC is .It's bad that it's
> hardware as i was opened to every "kamikaze"software experiment.
>       "smlunatick" wrote:Then, how is the broadband "modem" connected to
> your PC? Via a "thin"
> cable to a USB or a "thicker" Ethernet style cable?
>
> It is a ethernet style cable

This "warning" message is normal and does not usually "affect" your
Internet access.  The problem is that the Realtek adapter is not being
"assigned" an IP address for the DSL broadband router.  Only the PPPoE
"virtual" adapter is getting an IP address once your "access" is
"authenticated" with your ISP "authentication" server.

You "could" set the Realtek "adapter" to not show the icon or assign
an IP address to it.  Several possible IP address ranges should be
within the private IP address ranges:

192.168.2.xxx (xx=1 should not be used as several DSL modems are set
to 192.168.2.1 -- SpeedStream 4x00 or 5x00 use this be default.)

10.0.0.xxx ( xxx=138  should not be used as the older Speed Touch DSL
unit appear to use this address.)
Author
14 May 2009 8:17 PM
smlunatick
On May 14, 7:36 pm, alin83 <ali***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
Show quoteHide quote
> "smlunatick" wrote:
> > On May 14, 9:23 am, alin83 <ali***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
> > > Hello.I'm a novice.I will try my best to describe the problem.I have windows
> > > xp sp3 32 bit.
> > > When the PC starts and the desktop is displayed i have to wait about 1
> > > minute for the lan icon which shows aqquiring network adress and eventually
> > > it displays a yellow triangle(limited or no connectivity).After this i click
> > > on my broadband icon and i can connect to the internet.
> > > If i go to Lan Propreties and disable TCP/IP the error is not happening and
> > > i can quicly connect without waiting for the yellow triangle to appear.
> > > This started happening a few days ago i have tried uninstalling/rollback the
> > > Realteck Driver no succes.I also have an windows image program i restored
> > > back but the same thing happens.I only have an antivirus no other security
> > > program
> > > I just want everything to work as before.
>
> > How is your "broadband" modem connected to your PC?
>
> > Your PC appears to require you to "connect" to your Internet Service
> > Provider.  This would mean you might have a PPPoE style connection
> > which requires a username / password.  The PPPoE system, in XP, is a
> > "virtual" driver than "may" use your Ethernet port (Realtek) or a USB
> > port.    This seems to be correctly set up on your PC.
> > First Thank You all for the replies.I don't know how to multiquote so i'll post in this message.
>
>        smlunatick yes my connection is exactly as you described.
>        Malke from my understanding the NiC is not on the motherboard,i also
> searched in BIoS there is no mention about it.I have a deskop PC.Still i
> don't exactly understand what you are sayin with "uninstall the network
> adapter (NIC) and swap in a known-working NIC".if you mean the Realteck
> driver directly through control panel or by device manager,i already did that
>        Pavel A thanks also for the info.I don't have a modem,no web
> interface,i don't understand what you mean by "someone".Only i and my
> girlfriend are usin the PC(from what you see i'm a total noob when it comes
> to network) ,and we never had malware problems,and i have the OS Back-up
> program just in case.
> If there are no other solution i have to leave it as it is ,i'm frustarted
> and hate pC's becouse of this ,but i guess it could be worse

Then, how is the broadband "modem" connected to your PC?  Via a "thin"
cable to a USB or a "thicker" Ethernet style cable?