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Can't connect to Internet and e-mail.I have three PCs on a home wireless network, 2 XPs and a Vista. One of
the XPs cannot access the 'Net or e-mail. No problem with the other two PCs. This problem developed very recently during a Windows update. It is likely I made the wrong selection during the update. I have been advised to obtain the current driver(s) from HP. How do I do this if connection to the 'Net is not possible on the HP machine? Is it possible to download the driver(s) to an external drive using another PC and then install the new driver(s) from this drive? Many thanks. Peter. PVR wrote:
Show quoteHide quote > I have three PCs on a home wireless network, 2 XPs and a Vista. One of The answer to your asked question is yes. Download the driver and copy > the XPs cannot access the 'Net or e-mail. No problem with the other > two PCs. > > This problem developed very recently during a Windows update. It is > likely I made the wrong selection during the update. I have been > advised to obtain the current driver(s) from HP. > > How do I do this if connection to the 'Net is not possible on the HP > machine? Is it possible to download the driver(s) to an external drive > using another PC and then install the new driver(s) from this drive? > > Many thanks. > > Peter. > > it to a USB "thumb" drive. But unless you are very confident of the advice you have already received, you might do well to post back here with some additional information. For example, - what actually happens when you attempt to connect to the Internet? Do you get any error message? - what was the "wrong choice" you made? - if the wrong choice was to install a driver from Windows Update, have you tried the "roll back driver" button (never install drivers from Windows Update)? - what drivers were you told to install? -- Lem -- MS-MVP To the moon and back with 2K words of RAM and 36K words of ROM. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_Guidance_Computer http://history.nasa.gov/afj/compessay.htm Lem, many thanks for your answer and further suggestions. Because the
other two PCs have access to the 'Net and e-mail I concluded that the modem/wireless router were working OK. The problem has to be with the XP PC which cannot access the 'Net and e-mail. "What actually happens when you attempt to connect to the internet?" Answer. The Start bar Wireless icon has a small yellow dot moving back and forth and I do not obtain access to the 'Net. I receive a message "No connection to the Internet is currently available." When I access the list of available wireless networks I find that the default is "Acquiring network address" but this never succeeds. "What was the wrong choice you made?" Answer. I did choose (in error) to have Windows install a driver from Windows Update. As far as I can tell this is when things went wrong. I did try the Windows "roll back driver" feature but this did not correct the problem. "What drivers were you told to install?" Answer. Here I list a series of suggestions obtained from another forum. >>Things to try: 1. Delete the current wireless network on the problem computer. Create it again and test. Result, Done with no improvement. 2. If that didn't work, check the settings on the wireless network adapter to make sure it is set to get an IP address/DNS automatically and that there is no Alternate setting. Result, IP address is set to automatic. 3. Also check the security on the problem computer. What antivirus/security software do you have? I've seen cases where McAfee security handled access to the outside world separately for wired and wireless connections. Perhaps an update to this software messed things up. Result, I temporarily removed security software. No improvement. 4. What happens when you connect to the router with an Ethernet cable? Result, no change. 5. Perhaps you updated the wireless network adapter drivers, either on purpose or by mistakenly accepting this from Windows Update. Try installing the latest drivers for this adapter. Get them from the OEM's website if you have that sort of computer (Dell, HP, etc.) or from the wireless network adapter's mftr. if you installed it yourself. What is the wireless network adapter hardware? Result, Have not yet tried to update the driver(s). The wireless adapter was built-in to the HP Pavilion laptop as bought.>> As indicated I checked all of these without success. Also, would a System Restore help here? I haven't done this as yet. I hope this was not too long. Peter. Show quoteHide quote "Lem" <lemp40@unknownhost> wrote in message news:e5NZ1RX1JHA.5728@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... > PVR wrote: >> I have three PCs on a home wireless network, 2 XPs and a Vista. One >> of the XPs cannot access the 'Net or e-mail. No problem with the >> other two PCs. >> >> This problem developed very recently during a Windows update. It is >> likely I made the wrong selection during the update. I have been >> advised to obtain the current driver(s) from HP. >> >> How do I do this if connection to the 'Net is not possible on the >> HP machine? Is it possible to download the driver(s) to an external >> drive using another PC and then install the new driver(s) from this >> drive? >> >> Many thanks. >> >> Peter. > > The answer to your asked question is yes. Download the driver and > copy it to a USB "thumb" drive. > > But unless you are very confident of the advice you have already > received, you might do well to post back here with some additional > information. For example, > > - what actually happens when you attempt to connect to the Internet? > Do you get any error message? > - what was the "wrong choice" you made? > - if the wrong choice was to install a driver from Windows Update, > have you tried the "roll back driver" button (never install drivers > from Windows Update)? > - what drivers were you told to install? > > -- > Lem -- MS-MVP > > To the moon and back with 2K words of RAM and 36K words of ROM. > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_Guidance_Computer > http://history.nasa.gov/afj/compessay.htm PVR wrote:
Show quoteHide quote > Lem, many thanks for your answer and further suggestions. Because the The most troubling item in your list is #4. If you can't connect > other two PCs have access to the 'Net and e-mail I concluded that the > modem/wireless router were working OK. The problem has to be with the > XP PC which cannot access the 'Net and e-mail. > > "What actually happens when you attempt to connect to the internet?" > Answer. The Start bar Wireless icon has a small yellow dot moving back > and forth and I do not obtain access to the 'Net. I receive a message > "No connection to the Internet is currently available." When I access > the list of available wireless networks I find that the default is > "Acquiring network address" but this never succeeds. > > "What was the wrong choice you made?" Answer. I did choose (in error) > to have Windows install a driver from Windows Update. As far as I can > tell this is when things went wrong. I did try the Windows "roll back > driver" feature but this did not correct the problem. > > "What drivers were you told to install?" Answer. Here I list a series > of suggestions obtained from another forum. > >>> Things to try: > > 1. Delete the current wireless network on the problem computer. Create > it > again and test. Result, Done with no improvement. > > 2. If that didn't work, check the settings on the wireless network > adapter > to make sure it is set to get an IP address/DNS automatically and that > there is no Alternate setting. Result, IP address is set to automatic. > > 3. Also check the security on the problem computer. What > antivirus/security > software do you have? I've seen cases where McAfee security handled > access > to the outside world separately for wired and wireless connections. > Perhaps > an update to this software messed things up. Result, I temporarily > removed > security software. No improvement. > > 4. What happens when you connect to the router with an Ethernet cable? > Result, no change. > > 5. Perhaps you updated the wireless network adapter drivers, either on > purpose or by mistakenly accepting this from Windows Update. Try > installing > the latest drivers for this adapter. Get them from the OEM's website > if you > have that sort of computer (Dell, HP, etc.) or from the wireless > network > adapter's mftr. if you installed it yourself. What is the wireless > network > adapter hardware? Result, Have not yet tried to update the driver(s). > The > wireless adapter was built-in to the HP Pavilion laptop as bought.>> > > As indicated I checked all of these without success. > > Also, would a System Restore help here? I haven't done this as yet. > > I hope this was not too long. > > Peter. > > > > > > "Lem" <lemp40@unknownhost> wrote in message > news:e5NZ1RX1JHA.5728@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >> PVR wrote: >>> I have three PCs on a home wireless network, 2 XPs and a Vista. One >>> of the XPs cannot access the 'Net or e-mail. No problem with the >>> other two PCs. >>> >>> This problem developed very recently during a Windows update. It is >>> likely I made the wrong selection during the update. I have been >>> advised to obtain the current driver(s) from HP. >>> >>> How do I do this if connection to the 'Net is not possible on the >>> HP machine? Is it possible to download the driver(s) to an external >>> drive using another PC and then install the new driver(s) from this >>> drive? >>> >>> Many thanks. >>> >>> Peter. >> The answer to your asked question is yes. Download the driver and >> copy it to a USB "thumb" drive. >> >> But unless you are very confident of the advice you have already >> received, you might do well to post back here with some additional >> information. For example, >> >> - what actually happens when you attempt to connect to the Internet? >> Do you get any error message? >> - what was the "wrong choice" you made? >> - if the wrong choice was to install a driver from Windows Update, >> have you tried the "roll back driver" button (never install drivers >> from Windows Update)? >> - what drivers were you told to install? >> >> -- >> Lem -- MS-MVP >> >> To the moon and back with 2K words of RAM and 36K words of ROM. >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_Guidance_Computer >> http://history.nasa.gov/afj/compessay.htm > > through an Ethernet connection then whether or not you installed a bad driver for your wireless adapter is irrelevant (that may be an *additional* problem). The "acquiring network address" message usually appears on *wireless* connections if there is a security mismatch between the router and the computer. The first step in diagnosing this is to (temporarily) disable all security on the router's wireless configuration page (i.e., no encryption, no MAC filter, no other "security" configuration). However, wireless security has no effect whatsoever on the ability to connect to the router with an Ethernet cable. If that also doesn't work for you (any error message?), then you have a deeper problem You need to do some methodical diagnostic work. The two sites below offer help on how to do that. Chuck's site is more hands-on. Hans-Georg Michna's site should pinpoint the problem(s) if you answer the questions accurately. http://networking.nitecruzr.net/2005/05/troubleshooting-internet-service.html http://winhlp.com/wxnet.htm -- Lem -- MS-MVP To the moon and back with 2K words of RAM and 36K words of ROM. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_Guidance_Computer http://history.nasa.gov/afj/compessay.htm Lem, in view of your comments re: item #4, I ran that test again, this
time with a cable I know to be good. This cable is attached to one of of the PCs which does connect to the 'Net, etc. The result was that the problem computer was able to connect to the 'Net and e-mail. I have dumped the first cable I used for the test. However, the icon representing the wired connection had a small yellow dot moving back and forward just below the icon. This also occurs when the problem PC tries to connect to the 'Net. What does this mean? Would it be wise to run the Windows Wireless Wizard again on all three PCs? Peter. Show quoteHide quote "Lem" <lemp40@unknownhost> wrote in message news:OsZgcox1JHA.4416@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... > PVR wrote: >> Lem, many thanks for your answer and further suggestions. Because >> the other two PCs have access to the 'Net and e-mail I concluded >> that the modem/wireless router were working OK. The problem has to >> be with the XP PC which cannot access the 'Net and e-mail. >> >> "What actually happens when you attempt to connect to the >> internet?" Answer. The Start bar Wireless icon has a small yellow >> dot moving back and forth and I do not obtain access to the 'Net. I >> receive a message "No connection to the Internet is currently >> available." When I access the list of available wireless networks I >> find that the default is "Acquiring network address" but this never >> succeeds. >> >> "What was the wrong choice you made?" Answer. I did choose (in >> error) to have Windows install a driver from Windows Update. As far >> as I can tell this is when things went wrong. I did try the Windows >> "roll back driver" feature but this did not correct the problem. >> >> "What drivers were you told to install?" Answer. Here I list a >> series of suggestions obtained from another forum. >> >>>> Things to try: >> >> 1. Delete the current wireless network on the problem computer. >> Create it >> again and test. Result, Done with no improvement. >> >> 2. If that didn't work, check the settings on the wireless network >> adapter >> to make sure it is set to get an IP address/DNS automatically and >> that >> there is no Alternate setting. Result, IP address is set to >> automatic. >> >> 3. Also check the security on the problem computer. What >> antivirus/security >> software do you have? I've seen cases where McAfee security handled >> access >> to the outside world separately for wired and wireless connections. >> Perhaps >> an update to this software messed things up. Result, I temporarily >> removed >> security software. No improvement. >> >> 4. What happens when you connect to the router with an Ethernet >> cable? >> Result, no change. >> >> 5. Perhaps you updated the wireless network adapter drivers, either >> on >> purpose or by mistakenly accepting this from Windows Update. Try >> installing >> the latest drivers for this adapter. Get them from the OEM's >> website if you >> have that sort of computer (Dell, HP, etc.) or from the wireless >> network >> adapter's mftr. if you installed it yourself. What is the wireless >> network >> adapter hardware? Result, Have not yet tried to update the >> driver(s). The >> wireless adapter was built-in to the HP Pavilion laptop as >> bought.>> >> >> As indicated I checked all of these without success. >> >> Also, would a System Restore help here? I haven't done this as yet. >> >> I hope this was not too long. >> >> Peter. >> >> >> >> >> >> "Lem" <lemp40@unknownhost> wrote in message >> news:e5NZ1RX1JHA.5728@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >>> PVR wrote: >>>> I have three PCs on a home wireless network, 2 XPs and a Vista. >>>> One of the XPs cannot access the 'Net or e-mail. No problem with >>>> the other two PCs. >>>> >>>> This problem developed very recently during a Windows update. It >>>> is likely I made the wrong selection during the update. I have >>>> been advised to obtain the current driver(s) from HP. >>>> >>>> How do I do this if connection to the 'Net is not possible on the >>>> HP machine? Is it possible to download the driver(s) to an >>>> external drive using another PC and then install the new >>>> driver(s) from this drive? >>>> >>>> Many thanks. >>>> >>>> Peter. >>> The answer to your asked question is yes. Download the driver and >>> copy it to a USB "thumb" drive. >>> >>> But unless you are very confident of the advice you have already >>> received, you might do well to post back here with some additional >>> information. For example, >>> >>> - what actually happens when you attempt to connect to the >>> Internet? Do you get any error message? >>> - what was the "wrong choice" you made? >>> - if the wrong choice was to install a driver from Windows Update, >>> have you tried the "roll back driver" button (never install >>> drivers from Windows Update)? >>> - what drivers were you told to install? >>> >>> -- >>> Lem -- MS-MVP >>> >>> To the moon and back with 2K words of RAM and 36K words of ROM. >>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_Guidance_Computer >>> http://history.nasa.gov/afj/compessay.htm >> >> > > The most troubling item in your list is #4. If you can't connect > through an Ethernet connection then whether or not you installed a > bad driver for your wireless adapter is irrelevant (that may be an > *additional* problem). > > The "acquiring network address" message usually appears on > *wireless* connections if there is a security mismatch between the > router and the computer. The first step in diagnosing this is to > (temporarily) disable all security on the router's wireless > configuration page (i.e., no encryption, no MAC filter, no other > "security" configuration). > > However, wireless security has no effect whatsoever on the ability > to connect to the router with an Ethernet cable. If that also > doesn't work for you (any error message?), then you have a deeper > problem > > You need to do some methodical diagnostic work. The two sites below > offer help on how to do that. Chuck's site is more hands-on. > Hans-Georg Michna's site should pinpoint the problem(s) if you > answer the questions accurately. > > http://networking.nitecruzr.net/2005/05/troubleshooting-internet-service.html > http://winhlp.com/wxnet.htm > > > > -- > Lem -- MS-MVP > > To the moon and back with 2K words of RAM and 36K words of ROM. > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_Guidance_Computer > http://history.nasa.gov/afj/compessay.htm PVR wrote:
Show quoteHide quote > Lem, in view of your comments re: item #4, I ran that test again, this No, don't re-run the Wireless Networking Wizard again.> time with a cable I know to be good. This cable is attached to one of > of the PCs which does connect to the 'Net, etc. The result was that > the problem computer was able to connect to the 'Net and e-mail. I > have dumped the first cable I used for the test. However, the icon > representing the wired connection had a small yellow dot moving back > and forward just below the icon. This also occurs when the problem PC > tries to connect to the 'Net. What does this mean? > > Would it be wise to run the Windows Wireless Wizard again on all three > PCs? > > Peter. > > > "Lem" <lemp40@unknownhost> wrote in message > news:OsZgcox1JHA.4416@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >> PVR wrote: >>> Lem, many thanks for your answer and further suggestions. Because >>> the other two PCs have access to the 'Net and e-mail I concluded >>> that the modem/wireless router were working OK. The problem has to >>> be with the XP PC which cannot access the 'Net and e-mail. >>> >>> "What actually happens when you attempt to connect to the >>> internet?" Answer. The Start bar Wireless icon has a small yellow >>> dot moving back and forth and I do not obtain access to the 'Net. I >>> receive a message "No connection to the Internet is currently >>> available." When I access the list of available wireless networks I >>> find that the default is "Acquiring network address" but this never >>> succeeds. >>> >>> "What was the wrong choice you made?" Answer. I did choose (in >>> error) to have Windows install a driver from Windows Update. As far >>> as I can tell this is when things went wrong. I did try the Windows >>> "roll back driver" feature but this did not correct the problem. >>> >>> "What drivers were you told to install?" Answer. Here I list a >>> series of suggestions obtained from another forum. >>> >>>>> Things to try: >>> 1. Delete the current wireless network on the problem computer. >>> Create it >>> again and test. Result, Done with no improvement. >>> >>> 2. If that didn't work, check the settings on the wireless network >>> adapter >>> to make sure it is set to get an IP address/DNS automatically and >>> that >>> there is no Alternate setting. Result, IP address is set to >>> automatic. >>> >>> 3. Also check the security on the problem computer. What >>> antivirus/security >>> software do you have? I've seen cases where McAfee security handled >>> access >>> to the outside world separately for wired and wireless connections. >>> Perhaps >>> an update to this software messed things up. Result, I temporarily >>> removed >>> security software. No improvement. >>> >>> 4. What happens when you connect to the router with an Ethernet >>> cable? >>> Result, no change. >>> >>> 5. Perhaps you updated the wireless network adapter drivers, either >>> on >>> purpose or by mistakenly accepting this from Windows Update. Try >>> installing >>> the latest drivers for this adapter. Get them from the OEM's >>> website if you >>> have that sort of computer (Dell, HP, etc.) or from the wireless >>> network >>> adapter's mftr. if you installed it yourself. What is the wireless >>> network >>> adapter hardware? Result, Have not yet tried to update the >>> driver(s). The >>> wireless adapter was built-in to the HP Pavilion laptop as >>> bought.>> >>> >>> As indicated I checked all of these without success. >>> >>> Also, would a System Restore help here? I haven't done this as yet. >>> >>> I hope this was not too long. >>> >>> Peter. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> "Lem" <lemp40@unknownhost> wrote in message >>> news:e5NZ1RX1JHA.5728@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >>>> PVR wrote: >>>>> I have three PCs on a home wireless network, 2 XPs and a Vista. >>>>> One of the XPs cannot access the 'Net or e-mail. No problem with >>>>> the other two PCs. >>>>> >>>>> This problem developed very recently during a Windows update. It >>>>> is likely I made the wrong selection during the update. I have >>>>> been advised to obtain the current driver(s) from HP. >>>>> >>>>> How do I do this if connection to the 'Net is not possible on the >>>>> HP machine? Is it possible to download the driver(s) to an >>>>> external drive using another PC and then install the new >>>>> driver(s) from this drive? >>>>> >>>>> Many thanks. >>>>> >>>>> Peter. >>>> The answer to your asked question is yes. Download the driver and >>>> copy it to a USB "thumb" drive. >>>> >>>> But unless you are very confident of the advice you have already >>>> received, you might do well to post back here with some additional >>>> information. For example, >>>> >>>> - what actually happens when you attempt to connect to the >>>> Internet? Do you get any error message? >>>> - what was the "wrong choice" you made? >>>> - if the wrong choice was to install a driver from Windows Update, >>>> have you tried the "roll back driver" button (never install >>>> drivers from Windows Update)? >>>> - what drivers were you told to install? >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Lem -- MS-MVP >>>> >>>> To the moon and back with 2K words of RAM and 36K words of ROM. >>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_Guidance_Computer >>>> http://history.nasa.gov/afj/compessay.htm >>> >> The most troubling item in your list is #4. If you can't connect >> through an Ethernet connection then whether or not you installed a >> bad driver for your wireless adapter is irrelevant (that may be an >> *additional* problem). >> >> The "acquiring network address" message usually appears on >> *wireless* connections if there is a security mismatch between the >> router and the computer. The first step in diagnosing this is to >> (temporarily) disable all security on the router's wireless >> configuration page (i.e., no encryption, no MAC filter, no other >> "security" configuration). >> >> However, wireless security has no effect whatsoever on the ability >> to connect to the router with an Ethernet cable. If that also >> doesn't work for you (any error message?), then you have a deeper >> problem >> >> You need to do some methodical diagnostic work. The two sites below >> offer help on how to do that. Chuck's site is more hands-on. >> Hans-Georg Michna's site should pinpoint the problem(s) if you >> answer the questions accurately. >> >> http://networking.nitecruzr.net/2005/05/troubleshooting-internet-service.html >> http://winhlp.com/wxnet.htm >> >> >> >> -- >> Lem -- MS-MVP >> >> To the moon and back with 2K words of RAM and 36K words of ROM. >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_Guidance_Computer >> http://history.nasa.gov/afj/compessay.htm > > On the problem computer,open a Command Prompt window and type ipconfig /all [press Enter] Copy and paste the results in your next post (to copy from a command prompt window, click the icon in the upper left corner of the window's title bar and use the Edit function from the drop down menu). It would also be instructive to have this same information from one of the computers that successfully connects (wired or wireless). And confirm that your other computers don't have the "small yellow dot moving back and forward just below the icon." -- Lem -- MS-MVP To the moon and back with 2K words of RAM and 36K words of ROM. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_Guidance_Computer http://history.nasa.gov/afj/compessay.htm Lem, I attach three files as follows.
1). XP wired.txt 2). XP problem.rtf 3). vista.rtf These are the ipconfig/all results from my three PCs. I have just become aware that my home network SSID is "jean" as is the name of the problem computer. Is this a source of the problem? This was the working setup before the problem occurred after the Windows update. Many thanks for your ongoing help. Peter. Show quoteHide quote "Lem" <lemp40@unknownhost> wrote in message [attached file: vista.rtf]news:ObPLzkK2JHA.2656@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... > PVR wrote: >> Lem, in view of your comments re: item #4, I ran that test again, >> this >> time with a cable I know to be good. This cable is attached to one >> of >> of the PCs which does connect to the 'Net, etc. The result was that >> the problem computer was able to connect to the 'Net and e-mail. I >> have dumped the first cable I used for the test. However, the icon >> representing the wired connection had a small yellow dot moving >> back >> and forward just below the icon. This also occurs when the problem >> PC >> tries to connect to the 'Net. What does this mean? >> >> Would it be wise to run the Windows Wireless Wizard again on all >> three >> PCs? >> >> Peter. >> >> >> "Lem" <lemp40@unknownhost> wrote in message >> news:OsZgcox1JHA.4416@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >>> PVR wrote: >>>> Lem, many thanks for your answer and further suggestions. Because >>>> the other two PCs have access to the 'Net and e-mail I concluded >>>> that the modem/wireless router were working OK. The problem has >>>> to >>>> be with the XP PC which cannot access the 'Net and e-mail. >>>> >>>> "What actually happens when you attempt to connect to the >>>> internet?" Answer. The Start bar Wireless icon has a small yellow >>>> dot moving back and forth and I do not obtain access to the 'Net. >>>> I >>>> receive a message "No connection to the Internet is currently >>>> available." When I access the list of available wireless networks >>>> I >>>> find that the default is "Acquiring network address" but this >>>> never >>>> succeeds. >>>> >>>> "What was the wrong choice you made?" Answer. I did choose (in >>>> error) to have Windows install a driver from Windows Update. As >>>> far >>>> as I can tell this is when things went wrong. I did try the >>>> Windows >>>> "roll back driver" feature but this did not correct the problem. >>>> >>>> "What drivers were you told to install?" Answer. Here I list a >>>> series of suggestions obtained from another forum. >>>> >>>>>> Things to try: >>>> 1. Delete the current wireless network on the problem computer. >>>> Create it >>>> again and test. Result, Done with no improvement. >>>> >>>> 2. If that didn't work, check the settings on the wireless >>>> network >>>> adapter >>>> to make sure it is set to get an IP address/DNS automatically and >>>> that >>>> there is no Alternate setting. Result, IP address is set to >>>> automatic. >>>> >>>> 3. Also check the security on the problem computer. What >>>> antivirus/security >>>> software do you have? I've seen cases where McAfee security >>>> handled >>>> access >>>> to the outside world separately for wired and wireless >>>> connections. >>>> Perhaps >>>> an update to this software messed things up. Result, I >>>> temporarily >>>> removed >>>> security software. No improvement. >>>> >>>> 4. What happens when you connect to the router with an Ethernet >>>> cable? >>>> Result, no change. >>>> >>>> 5. Perhaps you updated the wireless network adapter drivers, >>>> either >>>> on >>>> purpose or by mistakenly accepting this from Windows Update. Try >>>> installing >>>> the latest drivers for this adapter. Get them from the OEM's >>>> website if you >>>> have that sort of computer (Dell, HP, etc.) or from the wireless >>>> network >>>> adapter's mftr. if you installed it yourself. What is the >>>> wireless >>>> network >>>> adapter hardware? Result, Have not yet tried to update the >>>> driver(s). The >>>> wireless adapter was built-in to the HP Pavilion laptop as >>>> bought.>> >>>> >>>> As indicated I checked all of these without success. >>>> >>>> Also, would a System Restore help here? I haven't done this as >>>> yet. >>>> >>>> I hope this was not too long. >>>> >>>> Peter. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> "Lem" <lemp40@unknownhost> wrote in message >>>> news:e5NZ1RX1JHA.5728@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >>>>> PVR wrote: >>>>>> I have three PCs on a home wireless network, 2 XPs and a Vista. >>>>>> One of the XPs cannot access the 'Net or e-mail. No problem >>>>>> with >>>>>> the other two PCs. >>>>>> >>>>>> This problem developed very recently during a Windows update. >>>>>> It >>>>>> is likely I made the wrong selection during the update. I have >>>>>> been advised to obtain the current driver(s) from HP. >>>>>> >>>>>> How do I do this if connection to the 'Net is not possible on >>>>>> the >>>>>> HP machine? Is it possible to download the driver(s) to an >>>>>> external drive using another PC and then install the new >>>>>> driver(s) from this drive? >>>>>> >>>>>> Many thanks. >>>>>> >>>>>> Peter. >>>>> The answer to your asked question is yes. Download the driver >>>>> and >>>>> copy it to a USB "thumb" drive. >>>>> >>>>> But unless you are very confident of the advice you have already >>>>> received, you might do well to post back here with some >>>>> additional >>>>> information. For example, >>>>> >>>>> - what actually happens when you attempt to connect to the >>>>> Internet? Do you get any error message? >>>>> - what was the "wrong choice" you made? >>>>> - if the wrong choice was to install a driver from Windows >>>>> Update, >>>>> have you tried the "roll back driver" button (never install >>>>> drivers from Windows Update)? >>>>> - what drivers were you told to install? >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Lem -- MS-MVP >>>>> >>>>> To the moon and back with 2K words of RAM and 36K words of ROM. >>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_Guidance_Computer >>>>> http://history.nasa.gov/afj/compessay.htm >>>> >>> The most troubling item in your list is #4. If you can't connect >>> through an Ethernet connection then whether or not you installed a >>> bad driver for your wireless adapter is irrelevant (that may be an >>> *additional* problem). >>> >>> The "acquiring network address" message usually appears on >>> *wireless* connections if there is a security mismatch between the >>> router and the computer. The first step in diagnosing this is to >>> (temporarily) disable all security on the router's wireless >>> configuration page (i.e., no encryption, no MAC filter, no other >>> "security" configuration). >>> >>> However, wireless security has no effect whatsoever on the ability >>> to connect to the router with an Ethernet cable. If that also >>> doesn't work for you (any error message?), then you have a deeper >>> problem >>> >>> You need to do some methodical diagnostic work. The two sites >>> below >>> offer help on how to do that. Chuck's site is more hands-on. >>> Hans-Georg Michna's site should pinpoint the problem(s) if you >>> answer the questions accurately. >>> >>> http://networking.nitecruzr.net/2005/05/troubleshooting-internet-service.html >>> http://winhlp.com/wxnet.htm >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Lem -- MS-MVP >>> >>> To the moon and back with 2K words of RAM and 36K words of ROM. >>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_Guidance_Computer >>> http://history.nasa.gov/afj/compessay.htm >> >> > > No, don't re-run the Wireless Networking Wizard again. > > On the problem computer,open a Command Prompt window and type > > ipconfig /all [press Enter] > > Copy and paste the results in your next post (to copy from a command > prompt window, click the icon in the upper left corner of the > window's > title bar and use the Edit function from the drop down menu). > > It would also be instructive to have this same information from one > of > the computers that successfully connects (wired or wireless). And > confirm that your other computers don't have the "small yellow dot > moving back and forward just below the icon." > > -- > Lem -- MS-MVP > > To the moon and back with 2K words of RAM and 36K words of ROM. > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_Guidance_Computer > http://history.nasa.gov/afj/compessay.htm [attached file: XP Problem.rtf] [attached file: xp wired.txt] Lem, do you have any further ideas regarding my internet connection
problem. Following your last set of instructions I did run the ipconfig/all test on three computers and I posted the results to you as requested. Hopefully you did receive these(?) Peter. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lem" <lemp40@unknownhost> Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windowsxp.network_webSent: Tuesday, May 19, 2009 1:42 PM Subject: Re: Can't connect to Internet and e-mail. Show quoteHide quote > PVR wrote: >> Lem, in view of your comments re: item #4, I ran that test again, >> this time with a cable I know to be good. This cable is attached to >> one of of the PCs which does connect to the 'Net, etc. The result >> was that the problem computer was able to connect to the 'Net and >> e-mail. I have dumped the first cable I used for the test. However, >> the icon representing the wired connection had a small yellow dot >> moving back and forward just below the icon. This also occurs when >> the problem PC tries to connect to the 'Net. What does this mean? >> >> Would it be wise to run the Windows Wireless Wizard again on all >> three PCs? >> >> Peter. >> >> >> "Lem" <lemp40@unknownhost> wrote in message >> news:OsZgcox1JHA.4416@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >>> PVR wrote: >>>> Lem, many thanks for your answer and further suggestions. Because >>>> the other two PCs have access to the 'Net and e-mail I concluded >>>> that the modem/wireless router were working OK. The problem has >>>> to be with the XP PC which cannot access the 'Net and e-mail. >>>> >>>> "What actually happens when you attempt to connect to the >>>> internet?" Answer. The Start bar Wireless icon has a small yellow >>>> dot moving back and forth and I do not obtain access to the 'Net. >>>> I receive a message "No connection to the Internet is currently >>>> available." When I access the list of available wireless networks >>>> I find that the default is "Acquiring network address" but this >>>> never succeeds. >>>> >>>> "What was the wrong choice you made?" Answer. I did choose (in >>>> error) to have Windows install a driver from Windows Update. As >>>> far as I can tell this is when things went wrong. I did try the >>>> Windows "roll back driver" feature but this did not correct the >>>> problem. >>>> >>>> "What drivers were you told to install?" Answer. Here I list a >>>> series of suggestions obtained from another forum. >>>> >>>>>> Things to try: >>>> 1. Delete the current wireless network on the problem computer. >>>> Create it >>>> again and test. Result, Done with no improvement. >>>> >>>> 2. If that didn't work, check the settings on the wireless >>>> network adapter >>>> to make sure it is set to get an IP address/DNS automatically and >>>> that >>>> there is no Alternate setting. Result, IP address is set to >>>> automatic. >>>> >>>> 3. Also check the security on the problem computer. What >>>> antivirus/security >>>> software do you have? I've seen cases where McAfee security >>>> handled access >>>> to the outside world separately for wired and wireless >>>> connections. Perhaps >>>> an update to this software messed things up. Result, I >>>> temporarily removed >>>> security software. No improvement. >>>> >>>> 4. What happens when you connect to the router with an Ethernet >>>> cable? >>>> Result, no change. >>>> >>>> 5. Perhaps you updated the wireless network adapter drivers, >>>> either on >>>> purpose or by mistakenly accepting this from Windows Update. Try >>>> installing >>>> the latest drivers for this adapter. Get them from the OEM's >>>> website if you >>>> have that sort of computer (Dell, HP, etc.) or from the wireless >>>> network >>>> adapter's mftr. if you installed it yourself. What is the >>>> wireless network >>>> adapter hardware? Result, Have not yet tried to update the >>>> driver(s). The >>>> wireless adapter was built-in to the HP Pavilion laptop as >>>> bought.>> >>>> >>>> As indicated I checked all of these without success. >>>> >>>> Also, would a System Restore help here? I haven't done this as >>>> yet. >>>> >>>> I hope this was not too long. >>>> >>>> Peter. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> "Lem" <lemp40@unknownhost> wrote in message >>>> news:e5NZ1RX1JHA.5728@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >>>>> PVR wrote: >>>>>> I have three PCs on a home wireless network, 2 XPs and a Vista. >>>>>> One of the XPs cannot access the 'Net or e-mail. No problem >>>>>> with the other two PCs. >>>>>> >>>>>> This problem developed very recently during a Windows update. >>>>>> It is likely I made the wrong selection during the update. I >>>>>> have been advised to obtain the current driver(s) from HP. >>>>>> >>>>>> How do I do this if connection to the 'Net is not possible on >>>>>> the HP machine? Is it possible to download the driver(s) to an >>>>>> external drive using another PC and then install the new >>>>>> driver(s) from this drive? >>>>>> >>>>>> Many thanks. >>>>>> >>>>>> Peter. >>>>> The answer to your asked question is yes. Download the driver >>>>> and copy it to a USB "thumb" drive. >>>>> >>>>> But unless you are very confident of the advice you have already >>>>> received, you might do well to post back here with some >>>>> additional information. For example, >>>>> >>>>> - what actually happens when you attempt to connect to the >>>>> Internet? Do you get any error message? >>>>> - what was the "wrong choice" you made? >>>>> - if the wrong choice was to install a driver from Windows >>>>> Update, have you tried the "roll back driver" button (never >>>>> install drivers from Windows Update)? >>>>> - what drivers were you told to install? >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Lem -- MS-MVP >>>>> >>>>> To the moon and back with 2K words of RAM and 36K words of ROM. >>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_Guidance_Computer >>>>> http://history.nasa.gov/afj/compessay.htm >>>> >>> The most troubling item in your list is #4. If you can't connect >>> through an Ethernet connection then whether or not you installed a >>> bad driver for your wireless adapter is irrelevant (that may be an >>> *additional* problem). >>> >>> The "acquiring network address" message usually appears on >>> *wireless* connections if there is a security mismatch between the >>> router and the computer. The first step in diagnosing this is to >>> (temporarily) disable all security on the router's wireless >>> configuration page (i.e., no encryption, no MAC filter, no other >>> "security" configuration). >>> >>> However, wireless security has no effect whatsoever on the ability >>> to connect to the router with an Ethernet cable. If that also >>> doesn't work for you (any error message?), then you have a deeper >>> problem >>> >>> You need to do some methodical diagnostic work. The two sites >>> below offer help on how to do that. Chuck's site is more >>> hands-on. Hans-Georg Michna's site should pinpoint the problem(s) >>> if you answer the questions accurately. >>> >>> http://networking.nitecruzr.net/2005/05/troubleshooting-internet-service.html >>> http://winhlp.com/wxnet.htm >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Lem -- MS-MVP >>> >>> To the moon and back with 2K words of RAM and 36K words of ROM. >>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_Guidance_Computer >>> http://history.nasa.gov/afj/compessay.htm >> >> > > No, don't re-run the Wireless Networking Wizard again. > > On the problem computer,open a Command Prompt window and type > > ipconfig /all [press Enter] > > Copy and paste the results in your next post (to copy from a command > prompt window, click the icon in the upper left corner of the > window's title bar and use the Edit function from the drop down > menu). > > It would also be instructive to have this same information from one > of the computers that successfully connects (wired or wireless). And > confirm that your other computers don't have the "small yellow dot > moving back and forward just below the icon." > > -- > Lem -- MS-MVP > > To the moon and back with 2K words of RAM and 36K words of ROM. > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_Guidance_Computer > http://history.nasa.gov/afj/compessay.htm "Lem" <lemp40@unknownhost> wrote in message news:ObPLzkK2JHA.2656@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... > PVR wrote: >> Lem, in view of your comments re: item #4, I ran that test again, >> this time with a cable I know to be good. This cable is attached to >> one of of the PCs which does connect to the 'Net, etc. The result >> was that the problem computer was able to connect to the 'Net and >> e-mail. I have dumped the first cable I used for the test. However, >> the icon representing the wired connection had a small yellow dot >> moving back and forward just below the icon. This also occurs when >> the problem PC tries to connect to the 'Net. What does this mean? >> >> Would it be wise to run the Windows Wireless Wizard again on all >> three PCs? >> >> Peter. >> >> >> "Lem" <lemp40@unknownhost> wrote in message >> news:OsZgcox1JHA.4416@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >>> PVR wrote: >>>> Lem, many thanks for your answer and further suggestions. Because >>>> the other two PCs have access to the 'Net and e-mail I concluded >>>> that the modem/wireless router were working OK. The problem has >>>> to be with the XP PC which cannot access the 'Net and e-mail. >>>> >>>> "What actually happens when you attempt to connect to the >>>> internet?" Answer. The Start bar Wireless icon has a small yellow >>>> dot moving back and forth and I do not obtain access to the 'Net. >>>> I receive a message "No connection to the Internet is currently >>>> available." When I access the list of available wireless networks >>>> I find that the default is "Acquiring network address" but this >>>> never succeeds. >>>> >>>> "What was the wrong choice you made?" Answer. I did choose (in >>>> error) to have Windows install a driver from Windows Update. As >>>> far as I can tell this is when things went wrong. I did try the >>>> Windows "roll back driver" feature but this did not correct the >>>> problem. >>>> >>>> "What drivers were you told to install?" Answer. Here I list a >>>> series of suggestions obtained from another forum. >>>> >>>>>> Things to try: >>>> 1. Delete the current wireless network on the problem computer. >>>> Create it >>>> again and test. Result, Done with no improvement. >>>> >>>> 2. If that didn't work, check the settings on the wireless >>>> network adapter >>>> to make sure it is set to get an IP address/DNS automatically and >>>> that >>>> there is no Alternate setting. Result, IP address is set to >>>> automatic. >>>> >>>> 3. Also check the security on the problem computer. What >>>> antivirus/security >>>> software do you have? I've seen cases where McAfee security >>>> handled access >>>> to the outside world separately for wired and wireless >>>> connections. Perhaps >>>> an update to this software messed things up. Result, I >>>> temporarily removed >>>> security software. No improvement. >>>> >>>> 4. What happens when you connect to the router with an Ethernet >>>> cable? >>>> Result, no change. >>>> >>>> 5. Perhaps you updated the wireless network adapter drivers, >>>> either on >>>> purpose or by mistakenly accepting this from Windows Update. Try >>>> installing >>>> the latest drivers for this adapter. Get them from the OEM's >>>> website if you >>>> have that sort of computer (Dell, HP, etc.) or from the wireless >>>> network >>>> adapter's mftr. if you installed it yourself. What is the >>>> wireless network >>>> adapter hardware? Result, Have not yet tried to update the >>>> driver(s). The >>>> wireless adapter was built-in to the HP Pavilion laptop as >>>> bought.>> >>>> >>>> As indicated I checked all of these without success. >>>> >>>> Also, would a System Restore help here? I haven't done this as >>>> yet. >>>> >>>> I hope this was not too long. >>>> >>>> Peter. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> "Lem" <lemp40@unknownhost> wrote in message >>>> news:e5NZ1RX1JHA.5728@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >>>>> PVR wrote: >>>>>> I have three PCs on a home wireless network, 2 XPs and a Vista. >>>>>> One of the XPs cannot access the 'Net or e-mail. No problem >>>>>> with the other two PCs. >>>>>> >>>>>> This problem developed very recently during a Windows update. >>>>>> It is likely I made the wrong selection during the update. I >>>>>> have been advised to obtain the current driver(s) from HP. >>>>>> >>>>>> How do I do this if connection to the 'Net is not possible on >>>>>> the HP machine? Is it possible to download the driver(s) to an >>>>>> external drive using another PC and then install the new >>>>>> driver(s) from this drive? >>>>>> >>>>>> Many thanks. >>>>>> >>>>>> Peter. >>>>> The answer to your asked question is yes. Download the driver >>>>> and copy it to a USB "thumb" drive. >>>>> >>>>> But unless you are very confident of the advice you have already >>>>> received, you might do well to post back here with some >>>>> additional information. For example, >>>>> >>>>> - what actually happens when you attempt to connect to the >>>>> Internet? Do you get any error message? >>>>> - what was the "wrong choice" you made? >>>>> - if the wrong choice was to install a driver from Windows >>>>> Update, have you tried the "roll back driver" button (never >>>>> install drivers from Windows Update)? >>>>> - what drivers were you told to install? >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Lem -- MS-MVP >>>>> >>>>> To the moon and back with 2K words of RAM and 36K words of ROM. >>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_Guidance_Computer >>>>> http://history.nasa.gov/afj/compessay.htm >>>> >>> The most troubling item in your list is #4. If you can't connect >>> through an Ethernet connection then whether or not you installed a >>> bad driver for your wireless adapter is irrelevant (that may be an >>> *additional* problem). >>> >>> The "acquiring network address" message usually appears on >>> *wireless* connections if there is a security mismatch between the >>> router and the computer. The first step in diagnosing this is to >>> (temporarily) disable all security on the router's wireless >>> configuration page (i.e., no encryption, no MAC filter, no other >>> "security" configuration). >>> >>> However, wireless security has no effect whatsoever on the ability >>> to connect to the router with an Ethernet cable. If that also >>> doesn't work for you (any error message?), then you have a deeper >>> problem >>> >>> You need to do some methodical diagnostic work. The two sites >>> below offer help on how to do that. Chuck's site is more >>> hands-on. Hans-Georg Michna's site should pinpoint the problem(s) >>> if you answer the questions accurately. >>> >>> http://networking.nitecruzr.net/2005/05/troubleshooting-internet-service.html >>> http://winhlp.com/wxnet.htm >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Lem -- MS-MVP >>> >>> To the moon and back with 2K words of RAM and 36K words of ROM. >>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_Guidance_Computer >>> http://history.nasa.gov/afj/compessay.htm >> >> > > No, don't re-run the Wireless Networking Wizard again. > > On the problem computer,open a Command Prompt window and type > > ipconfig /all [press Enter] > > Copy and paste the results in your next post (to copy from a command > prompt window, click the icon in the upper left corner of the > window's title bar and use the Edit function from the drop down > menu). > > It would also be instructive to have this same information from one > of the computers that successfully connects (wired or wireless). And > confirm that your other computers don't have the "small yellow dot > moving back and forward just below the icon." > > -- > Lem -- MS-MVP > > To the moon and back with 2K words of RAM and 36K words of ROM. > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_Guidance_Computer > http://history.nasa.gov/afj/compessay.htm
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On May 15, 3:10 pm, "PVR" <peterv***@roadrunner.com> wrote: You can also "try" to roll-back the "defective" driver.> I have three PCs on a home wireless network, 2 XPs and a Vista. One of > the XPs cannot access the 'Net or e-mail. No problem with the other > two PCs. > > This problem developed very recently during a Windows update. It is > likely I made the wrong selection during the update. I have been > advised to obtain the current driver(s) from HP. > > How do I do this if connection to the 'Net is not possible on the HP > machine? Is it possible to download the driver(s) to an external drive > using another PC and then install the new driver(s) from this drive? > > Many thanks. > > Peter.
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"PVR" wrote: I believe all Microsoft updates are downloadable individually as a installer > I have three PCs on a home wireless network, 2 XPs and a Vista. One of > the XPs cannot access the 'Net or e-mail. No problem with the other > two PCs. > > This problem developed very recently during a Windows update. It is > likely I made the wrong selection during the update. I have been > advised to obtain the current driver(s) from HP. > > How do I do this if connection to the 'Net is not possible on the HP > machine? Is it possible to download the driver(s) to an external drive > using another PC and then install the new driver(s) from this drive? > > Many thanks. > > Peter. file. Each update is referenced by KB followed by a number. If you know the number of the update you can find information about the update by appending the number to http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid= You can also find the installer file to download by searching for it on http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/en/default.aspx using the KB reference number as a keyword (include the KB). Best wishes. Mark Hi
Regardless of what cause the problem you should find what actually is wrong. This page might help in assessing the status of the computer's network configuration, http://www.ezlan.net/debug.html Jack (MS, MVP-Networking) Show quoteHide quote "PVR" <peterv***@roadrunner.com> wrote in message news:eiNbhbW1JHA.5772@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >I have three PCs on a home wireless network, 2 XPs and a Vista. One of the >XPs cannot access the 'Net or e-mail. No problem with the other two PCs. > > This problem developed very recently during a Windows update. It is likely > I made the wrong selection during the update. I have been advised to > obtain the current driver(s) from HP. > > How do I do this if connection to the 'Net is not possible on the HP > machine? Is it possible to download the driver(s) to an external drive > using another PC and then install the new driver(s) from this drive? > > Many thanks. > > Peter. > |
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