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Setting up a computer which was previously part of a network.I have been asked to help someone setup a computer (Windows XP Pro) for home
and internet use. This is a computer which has been discarded but which was previously part of a network in an office. My memory tells me that in trying to do this earlier for someone, the computer is always looking around for its “network pals†and one gets interminable error messages. What can I do to prevent this from happening? Does it mean that the computer needs to be reattached to its home network and properly disconnected from it first? I am a network newbie but did set up my Verizon FIOS. Thanks for any assistance you can provide. Mary Hi
You have to set the computer to be on a Group Network. Use the Change Button as seen here, http://www.ezlan.net/network/met-name.jpg Jack (MS, MVP-Networking) Show quoteHide quote "sweeneysmsm" <sweeneys***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:66039FFC-31BB-4E73-A87C-1A07B749BA0E@microsoft.com... >I have been asked to help someone setup a computer (Windows XP Pro) for >home > and internet use. This is a computer which has been discarded but which > was > previously part of a network in an office. My memory tells me that in > trying > to do this earlier for someone, the computer is always looking around for > its > “network pals†and one gets interminable error messages. What can I do to > prevent this from happening? Does it mean that the computer needs to be > reattached to its home network and properly disconnected from it first? > > I am a network newbie but did set up my Verizon FIOS. > > Thanks for any assistance you can provide. > > Mary > Hi
Sorry had a typo in the link above it should be http://www.ezlan.net/network/net-name.jpg Jack (MS, MVP-Networking) Show quoteHide quote "Jack [MVP-Networking]" <j***@discussiongroup.com> wrote in message news:uBTQt%23g4JHA.1380@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... > Hi > You have to set the computer to be on a Group Network. > Use the Change Button as seen here, > http://www.ezlan.net/network/met-name.jpg > Jack (MS, MVP-Networking) > > "sweeneysmsm" <sweeneys***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > news:66039FFC-31BB-4E73-A87C-1A07B749BA0E@microsoft.com... >>I have been asked to help someone setup a computer (Windows XP Pro) for >>home >> and internet use. This is a computer which has been discarded but which >> was >> previously part of a network in an office. My memory tells me that in >> trying >> to do this earlier for someone, the computer is always looking around for >> its >> “network pals†and one gets interminable error messages. What can I do to >> prevent this from happening? Does it mean that the computer needs to be >> reattached to its home network and properly disconnected from it first? >> >> I am a network newbie but did set up my Verizon FIOS. >> >> Thanks for any assistance you can provide. >> >> Mary >> > I'm sorry. I guess I was not sufficiently clear.
This computer is no longer going to be on a network. It was previously on a network. My guess is that it was only physically disconnected from its former network and given to my friend to use in her home. I'm going to transport this device from where it was to its new place. I want to know if I should do that, or if I should take it back, reconnect it to its network and then go through whatever software disconnect process I need to so that it says "goodby" properly or if there is something I can do when I get it to the new place to prevent it from looking for its former network. In its new environment it will not be part of a network, just a standalone. Show quoteHide quote "Jack [MVP-Networking]" wrote: > Hi > Sorry had a typo in the link above it should be > http://www.ezlan.net/network/net-name.jpg > Jack (MS, MVP-Networking) > > "Jack [MVP-Networking]" <j***@discussiongroup.com> wrote in message > news:uBTQt%23g4JHA.1380@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... > > Hi > > You have to set the computer to be on a Group Network. > > Use the Change Button as seen here, > > http://www.ezlan.net/network/met-name.jpg > > Jack (MS, MVP-Networking) > > > > "sweeneysmsm" <sweeneys***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > > news:66039FFC-31BB-4E73-A87C-1A07B749BA0E@microsoft.com... > >>I have been asked to help someone setup a computer (Windows XP Pro) for > >>home > >> and internet use. This is a computer which has been discarded but which > >> was > >> previously part of a network in an office. My memory tells me that in > >> trying > >> to do this earlier for someone, the computer is always looking around for > >> its > >> “network pals†and one gets interminable error messages. What can I do to > >> prevent this from happening? Does it mean that the computer needs to be > >> reattached to its home network and properly disconnected from it first? > >> > >> I am a network newbie but did set up my Verizon FIOS. > >> > >> Thanks for any assistance you can provide. > >> > >> Mary > >> > > > > Hi
If your friend is going to use Broadband Internet Connection (DSL or Cable Internet), then it has to be configured for a workgroup (even if it is single computer) since the Network interface is used for the Internet connection. The Internet is a Network :D. Jack (MS, MVP-Networking) Show quoteHide quote "sweeneysmsm" <sweeneys***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:B29A1B91-7B4D-4D5F-832D-437EEF5763DD@microsoft.com... > I'm sorry. I guess I was not sufficiently clear. > > This computer is no longer going to be on a network. It was previously on > a > network. My guess is that it was only physically disconnected from its > former > network and given to my friend to use in her home. I'm going to transport > this device from where it was to its new place. I want to know if I should > do > that, or if I should take it back, reconnect it to its network and then go > through whatever software disconnect process I need to so that it says > "goodby" properly or if there is something I can do when I get it to the > new > place to prevent it from looking for its former network. In its new > environment it will not be part of a network, just a standalone. > > "Jack [MVP-Networking]" wrote: > >> Hi >> Sorry had a typo in the link above it should be >> http://www.ezlan.net/network/net-name.jpg >> Jack (MS, MVP-Networking) >> >> "Jack [MVP-Networking]" <j***@discussiongroup.com> wrote in message >> news:uBTQt%23g4JHA.1380@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >> > Hi >> > You have to set the computer to be on a Group Network. >> > Use the Change Button as seen here, >> > http://www.ezlan.net/network/met-name.jpg >> > Jack (MS, MVP-Networking) >> > >> > "sweeneysmsm" <sweeneys***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message >> > news:66039FFC-31BB-4E73-A87C-1A07B749BA0E@microsoft.com... >> >>I have been asked to help someone setup a computer (Windows XP Pro) for >> >>home >> >> and internet use. This is a computer which has been discarded but >> >> which >> >> was >> >> previously part of a network in an office. My memory tells me that in >> >> trying >> >> to do this earlier for someone, the computer is always looking around >> >> for >> >> its >> >> “network pals†and one gets interminable error messages. What can I do >> >> to >> >> prevent this from happening? Does it mean that the computer needs to >> >> be >> >> reattached to its home network and properly disconnected from it >> >> first? >> >> >> >> I am a network newbie but did set up my Verizon FIOS. >> >> >> >> Thanks for any assistance you can provide. >> >> >> >> Mary >> >> >> > >> >> Hi, Jack.
Yes, I see exactly what you are saying and it is taking me back to a bit more detail. The computer that my friend had in her home previously had dial-up and for various excellent reasons we terminated the service so initially there will be no Internet service, therefore no network. So, can we focus again on what I need to do to prevent that computer from looking for the network it formerly had. I just want to clear the decks and prevent them from having to work through a maze of error messages. Any insight appreciated. Mary Show quoteHide quote "Jack [MVP-Networking]" wrote: > Hi > If your friend is going to use Broadband Internet Connection (DSL or Cable > Internet), then it has to be configured for a workgroup (even if it is > single computer) since the Network interface is used for the Internet > connection. The Internet is a Network :D. > Jack (MS, MVP-Networking) > > "sweeneysmsm" <sweeneys***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > news:B29A1B91-7B4D-4D5F-832D-437EEF5763DD@microsoft.com... > > I'm sorry. I guess I was not sufficiently clear. > > > > This computer is no longer going to be on a network. It was previously on > > a > > network. My guess is that it was only physically disconnected from its > > former > > network and given to my friend to use in her home. I'm going to transport > > this device from where it was to its new place. I want to know if I should > > do > > that, or if I should take it back, reconnect it to its network and then go > > through whatever software disconnect process I need to so that it says > > "goodby" properly or if there is something I can do when I get it to the > > new > > place to prevent it from looking for its former network. In its new > > environment it will not be part of a network, just a standalone. > > > > "Jack [MVP-Networking]" wrote: > > > >> Hi > >> Sorry had a typo in the link above it should be > >> http://www.ezlan.net/network/net-name.jpg > >> Jack (MS, MVP-Networking) > >> > >> "Jack [MVP-Networking]" <j***@discussiongroup.com> wrote in message > >> news:uBTQt%23g4JHA.1380@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... > >> > Hi > >> > You have to set the computer to be on a Group Network. > >> > Use the Change Button as seen here, > >> > http://www.ezlan.net/network/met-name.jpg > >> > Jack (MS, MVP-Networking) > >> > > >> > "sweeneysmsm" <sweeneys***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > >> > news:66039FFC-31BB-4E73-A87C-1A07B749BA0E@microsoft.com... > >> >>I have been asked to help someone setup a computer (Windows XP Pro) for > >> >>home > >> >> and internet use. This is a computer which has been discarded but > >> >> which > >> >> was > >> >> previously part of a network in an office. My memory tells me that in > >> >> trying > >> >> to do this earlier for someone, the computer is always looking around > >> >> for > >> >> its > >> >> “network pals†and one gets interminable error messages. What can I do > >> >> to > >> >> prevent this from happening? Does it mean that the computer needs to > >> >> be > >> >> reattached to its home network and properly disconnected from it > >> >> first? > >> >> > >> >> I am a network newbie but did set up my Verizon FIOS. > >> >> > >> >> Thanks for any assistance you can provide. > >> >> > >> >> Mary > >> >> > >> > > >> > >> > > sweeneysmsm wrote:
Show quoteHide quote > Hi, Jack. The advice Jack gave you was how to change a Windows computer from being > > Yes, I see exactly what you are saying and it is taking me back to a bit > more detail. The computer that my friend had in her home previously had > dial-up and for various excellent reasons we terminated the service so > initially there will be no Internet service, therefore no network. So, can we > focus again on what I need to do to prevent that computer from looking for > the network it formerly had. I just want to clear the decks and prevent them > from having to work through a maze of error messages. > > Any insight appreciated. > > Mary > "Jack [MVP-Networking]" wrote: > >> Hi >> If your friend is going to use Broadband Internet Connection (DSL or Cable >> Internet), then it has to be configured for a workgroup (even if it is >> single computer) since the Network interface is used for the Internet >> connection. The Internet is a Network :D. >> Jack (MS, MVP-Networking) >> >> "sweeneysmsm" <sweeneys***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message >> news:B29A1B91-7B4D-4D5F-832D-437EEF5763DD@microsoft.com... >>> I'm sorry. I guess I was not sufficiently clear. >>> >>> This computer is no longer going to be on a network. It was previously on >>> a >>> network. My guess is that it was only physically disconnected from its >>> former >>> network and given to my friend to use in her home. I'm going to transport >>> this device from where it was to its new place. I want to know if I should >>> do >>> that, or if I should take it back, reconnect it to its network and then go >>> through whatever software disconnect process I need to so that it says >>> "goodby" properly or if there is something I can do when I get it to the >>> new >>> place to prevent it from looking for its former network. In its new >>> environment it will not be part of a network, just a standalone. >>> >>> "Jack [MVP-Networking]" wrote: >>> >>>> Hi >>>> Sorry had a typo in the link above it should be >>>> http://www.ezlan.net/network/net-name.jpg >>>> Jack (MS, MVP-Networking) >>>> >>>> "Jack [MVP-Networking]" <j***@discussiongroup.com> wrote in message >>>> news:uBTQt%23g4JHA.1380@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >>>>> Hi >>>>> You have to set the computer to be on a Group Network. >>>>> Use the Change Button as seen here, >>>>> http://www.ezlan.net/network/met-name.jpg >>>>> Jack (MS, MVP-Networking) >>>>> >>>>> "sweeneysmsm" <sweeneys***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message >>>>> news:66039FFC-31BB-4E73-A87C-1A07B749BA0E@microsoft.com... >>>>>> I have been asked to help someone setup a computer (Windows XP Pro) for >>>>>> home >>>>>> and internet use. This is a computer which has been discarded but >>>>>> which >>>>>> was >>>>>> previously part of a network in an office. My memory tells me that in >>>>>> trying >>>>>> to do this earlier for someone, the computer is always looking around >>>>>> for >>>>>> its >>>>>> “network pals†and one gets interminable error messages. What can I do >>>>>> to >>>>>> prevent this from happening? Does it mean that the computer needs to >>>>>> be >>>>>> reattached to its home network and properly disconnected from it >>>>>> first? >>>>>> >>>>>> I am a network newbie but did set up my Verizon FIOS. >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks for any assistance you can provide. >>>>>> >>>>>> Mary >>>>>> >>>> >> a Domain member (typical office network) to being a Workgroup member (typical home network). Depending on what sort of "lockdown" was imposed by the former office IT department (by, e.g., use of Group Policies), you may be better off reinstalling Windows. -- Lem -- MS-MVP To the moon and back with 2K words of RAM and 36K words of ROM. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_Guidance_Computer http://history.nasa.gov/afj/compessay.htm Mary,
Some places you may want to check are in the Control Panel. First, is Internet Options, on the Connections tab, I would remove any item in the Dial-up and Virtual Network settings box. Also click on the LAN settings button and make sure everything there is unchecked. Close Internet Options. Back to the Control Panel, open Network Connections, if there is a network connection listed there, right click it and choose Properties from the context menu. From the list in the resulting Properties form, highlight Internet Protocol (TCP/IP) and click the Properties button. Make sure the radio buttons for Obtain an IP address and Obtain DNS server address automatically are selected. Do the same for any other Network Connections listed. Let us know how you make out. OK? -Kevin Show quoteHide quote "sweeneysmsm" <sweeneys***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:B043D12D-974C-41A2-956B-D0071398FF8C@microsoft.com... > Hi, Jack. > > Yes, I see exactly what you are saying and it is taking me back to a bit > more detail. The computer that my friend had in her home previously had > dial-up and for various excellent reasons we terminated the service so > initially there will be no Internet service, therefore no network. So, can > we > focus again on what I need to do to prevent that computer from looking for > the network it formerly had. I just want to clear the decks and prevent > them > from having to work through a maze of error messages. > > Any insight appreciated. > > Mary > "Jack [MVP-Networking]" wrote: > >> Hi >> If your friend is going to use Broadband Internet Connection (DSL or >> Cable >> Internet), then it has to be configured for a workgroup (even if it is >> single computer) since the Network interface is used for the Internet >> connection. The Internet is a Network :D. >> Jack (MS, MVP-Networking) >> >> "sweeneysmsm" <sweeneys***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message >> news:B29A1B91-7B4D-4D5F-832D-437EEF5763DD@microsoft.com... >> > I'm sorry. I guess I was not sufficiently clear. >> > >> > This computer is no longer going to be on a network. It was previously >> > on >> > a >> > network. My guess is that it was only physically disconnected from its >> > former >> > network and given to my friend to use in her home. I'm going to >> > transport >> > this device from where it was to its new place. I want to know if I >> > should >> > do >> > that, or if I should take it back, reconnect it to its network and then >> > go >> > through whatever software disconnect process I need to so that it says >> > "goodby" properly or if there is something I can do when I get it to >> > the >> > new >> > place to prevent it from looking for its former network. In its new >> > environment it will not be part of a network, just a standalone. >> > >> > "Jack [MVP-Networking]" wrote: >> > >> >> Hi >> >> Sorry had a typo in the link above it should be >> >> http://www.ezlan.net/network/net-name.jpg >> >> Jack (MS, MVP-Networking) >> >> >> >> "Jack [MVP-Networking]" <j***@discussiongroup.com> wrote in message >> >> news:uBTQt%23g4JHA.1380@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >> >> > Hi >> >> > You have to set the computer to be on a Group Network. >> >> > Use the Change Button as seen here, >> >> > http://www.ezlan.net/network/met-name.jpg >> >> > Jack (MS, MVP-Networking) >> >> > >> >> > "sweeneysmsm" <sweeneys***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in >> >> > message >> >> > news:66039FFC-31BB-4E73-A87C-1A07B749BA0E@microsoft.com... >> >> >>I have been asked to help someone setup a computer (Windows XP Pro) >> >> >>for >> >> >>home >> >> >> and internet use. This is a computer which has been discarded but >> >> >> which >> >> >> was >> >> >> previously part of a network in an office. My memory tells me that >> >> >> in >> >> >> trying >> >> >> to do this earlier for someone, the computer is always looking >> >> >> around >> >> >> for >> >> >> its >> >> >> "network pals" and one gets interminable error messages. What can I >> >> >> do >> >> >> to >> >> >> prevent this from happening? Does it mean that the computer needs >> >> >> to >> >> >> be >> >> >> reattached to its home network and properly disconnected from it >> >> >> first? >> >> >> >> >> >> I am a network newbie but did set up my Verizon FIOS. >> >> >> >> >> >> Thanks for any assistance you can provide. >> >> >> >> >> >> Mary >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> Thank you so much. Tentative plans are to try to do the new setup on
Thursday, so yes, I will let you know how it all goes if those plans stay in place. Thanks for all your help. Mary Show quoteHide quote "Kevin" wrote: > Mary, > Some places you may want to check are in the Control Panel. > First, is Internet Options, on the Connections tab, I would remove any item > in the Dial-up and Virtual Network settings box. Also click on the LAN > settings button and make sure everything there is unchecked. > Close Internet Options. > Back to the Control Panel, open Network Connections, if there is a network > connection listed there, right click it and choose Properties from the > context menu. From the list in the resulting Properties form, highlight > Internet Protocol (TCP/IP) and click the Properties button. Make sure the > radio buttons for Obtain an IP address and Obtain DNS server address > automatically are selected. > Do the same for any other Network Connections listed. > Let us know how you make out. OK? > -Kevin > > "sweeneysmsm" <sweeneys***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > news:B043D12D-974C-41A2-956B-D0071398FF8C@microsoft.com... > > Hi, Jack. > > > > Yes, I see exactly what you are saying and it is taking me back to a bit > > more detail. The computer that my friend had in her home previously had > > dial-up and for various excellent reasons we terminated the service so > > initially there will be no Internet service, therefore no network. So, can > > we > > focus again on what I need to do to prevent that computer from looking for > > the network it formerly had. I just want to clear the decks and prevent > > them > > from having to work through a maze of error messages. > > > > Any insight appreciated. > > > > Mary > > "Jack [MVP-Networking]" wrote: > > > >> Hi > >> If your friend is going to use Broadband Internet Connection (DSL or > >> Cable > >> Internet), then it has to be configured for a workgroup (even if it is > >> single computer) since the Network interface is used for the Internet > >> connection. The Internet is a Network :D. > >> Jack (MS, MVP-Networking) > >> > >> "sweeneysmsm" <sweeneys***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > >> news:B29A1B91-7B4D-4D5F-832D-437EEF5763DD@microsoft.com... > >> > I'm sorry. I guess I was not sufficiently clear. > >> > > >> > This computer is no longer going to be on a network. It was previously > >> > on > >> > a > >> > network. My guess is that it was only physically disconnected from its > >> > former > >> > network and given to my friend to use in her home. I'm going to > >> > transport > >> > this device from where it was to its new place. I want to know if I > >> > should > >> > do > >> > that, or if I should take it back, reconnect it to its network and then > >> > go > >> > through whatever software disconnect process I need to so that it says > >> > "goodby" properly or if there is something I can do when I get it to > >> > the > >> > new > >> > place to prevent it from looking for its former network. In its new > >> > environment it will not be part of a network, just a standalone. > >> > > >> > "Jack [MVP-Networking]" wrote: > >> > > >> >> Hi > >> >> Sorry had a typo in the link above it should be > >> >> http://www.ezlan.net/network/net-name.jpg > >> >> Jack (MS, MVP-Networking) > >> >> > >> >> "Jack [MVP-Networking]" <j***@discussiongroup.com> wrote in message > >> >> news:uBTQt%23g4JHA.1380@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... > >> >> > Hi > >> >> > You have to set the computer to be on a Group Network. > >> >> > Use the Change Button as seen here, > >> >> > http://www.ezlan.net/network/met-name.jpg > >> >> > Jack (MS, MVP-Networking) > >> >> > > >> >> > "sweeneysmsm" <sweeneys***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in > >> >> > message > >> >> > news:66039FFC-31BB-4E73-A87C-1A07B749BA0E@microsoft.com... > >> >> >>I have been asked to help someone setup a computer (Windows XP Pro) > >> >> >>for > >> >> >>home > >> >> >> and internet use. This is a computer which has been discarded but > >> >> >> which > >> >> >> was > >> >> >> previously part of a network in an office. My memory tells me that > >> >> >> in > >> >> >> trying > >> >> >> to do this earlier for someone, the computer is always looking > >> >> >> around > >> >> >> for > >> >> >> its > >> >> >> "network pals" and one gets interminable error messages. What can I > >> >> >> do > >> >> >> to > >> >> >> prevent this from happening? Does it mean that the computer needs > >> >> >> to > >> >> >> be > >> >> >> reattached to its home network and properly disconnected from it > >> >> >> first? > >> >> >> > >> >> >> I am a network newbie but did set up my Verizon FIOS. > >> >> >> > >> >> >> Thanks for any assistance you can provide. > >> >> >> > >> >> >> Mary > >> >> >> > >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> > >> > >> > > > Hello Mary,
I am not really answering your question....rather just confirming your possible problem? I am having similar trouble. I thought I was going to be smart and set up my three computers to network and I have only succeeded in creating a monster. I have tried to restore everything but does not seem to let me. I am not sure how to undo what I did. I have gone into Tools/Connections/Etc./Etc. and am at a loss. If that were not bad enough, I can no longer access Internet Exployer (or MSN for that matter) on two of the computers. I am not quite sure why this laptop is working. I compared the Tools/Etc. and all of that and I just don't see where the trouble lies. My wireless connections are pretty good but obviously I have done some bad things....Anyway, just letting you know you are not alone and not the only newbie to this networking thing. If anyone knows anything about wireless networking and undoing it, please let me know. I would very much appreciate it. -- Show quoteHide quoteThank you! Sincerely, Heather "sweeneysmsm" wrote: > I have been asked to help someone setup a computer (Windows XP Pro) for home > and internet use. This is a computer which has been discarded but which was > previously part of a network in an office. My memory tells me that in trying > to do this earlier for someone, the computer is always looking around for its > “network pals†and one gets interminable error messages. What can I do to > prevent this from happening? Does it mean that the computer needs to be > reattached to its home network and properly disconnected from it first? > > I am a network newbie but did set up my Verizon FIOS. > > Thanks for any assistance you can provide. > > Mary > 
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