> The setup: a WinXPSP3 PC connected to the internet via a network cable
> linking its Realtek RTL8139 Family PCI network adaptor to a four-port
> Netgear DG834G (v3--UK) wireless firewall ADSL router. Wireless capability
> is not currently in use and is disabled; no other PC is currently connected
> to the router.
>
>
> The user (me): a novice as regards XP, networking, and ADSL.
>
>
> The problem:
>
> Sometimes, when I boot up the PC, only one network connection is
> created--namely "Local Area Connection" (type 'LAN or High Speed Internet';
> Device name 'Realtek RTL8139 Family PCI Fast Ethernet NIC'). When this
> happens, all is well.
>
> But sometimes, when I boot up the PC, a second network connection is also
> created--namely "Internet Connection" (type: 'internet gateway'; Device name
> 'internet connection'). When this happens, the network card talks
> incessantly to the router at a rate of approx. 39kbits/sec down, and
> 45kbits/sec up (measurements from Networx.exe, a freeware LAN monitor).
>
> In either case I can access internet services, but in the latter case the
> incessant chatter just never stops; heaven knows what the network card and
> router are trying to tell each other. Every time this data flow appears on
> the Networx graph I get the horrids in case some malware has taken over my
> PC and is sending out a pile of spam or suchlike, although a check on the
> internet connection's status display shows that the packets are only passing
> between the two devices until I make use of an internet service such as the
> web or check mail or suchlike.
>
> I have repeatedly tried running the 'set up a home or small office network'
> wizard but it appears to make no difference, regardless of which option I
> choose.
>
> XP's choice as regards whether or not to set up that second connection
> appears to be quite random as far as I'm concerned... I'd be most grateful
> for advice on how to solve this odd and slightly unnerving problem. Please
> bear in mind that, although PC literate, I'm something of a novice in this
> area.
>

>Peter Boulding wrote:
>> The setup: a WinXPSP3 PC connected to the internet via a network cable
>> linking its Realtek RTL8139 Family PCI network adaptor to a four-port
>> Netgear DG834G (v3--UK) wireless firewall ADSL router. Wireless capability
>> is not currently in use and is disabled; no other PC is currently connected
>> to the router.
>>
>>
>> The user (me): a novice as regards XP, networking, and ADSL.
>>
>>
>> The problem:
>>
>> Sometimes, when I boot up the PC, only one network connection is
>> created--namely "Local Area Connection" (type 'LAN or High Speed Internet';
>> Device name 'Realtek RTL8139 Family PCI Fast Ethernet NIC'). When this
>> happens, all is well.
>>
>> But sometimes, when I boot up the PC, a second network connection is also
>> created--namely "Internet Connection" (type: 'internet gateway'; Device name
>> 'internet connection'). When this happens, the network card talks
>> incessantly to the router at a rate of approx. 39kbits/sec down, and
>> 45kbits/sec up (measurements from Networx.exe, a freeware LAN monitor).
>>
>> In either case I can access internet services, but in the latter case the
>> incessant chatter just never stops; heaven knows what the network card and
>> router are trying to tell each other. Every time this data flow appears on
>> the Networx graph I get the horrids in case some malware has taken over my
>> PC and is sending out a pile of spam or suchlike, although a check on the
>> internet connection's status display shows that the packets are only passing
>> between the two devices until I make use of an internet service such as the
>> web or check mail or suchlike.
>>
>> I have repeatedly tried running the 'set up a home or small office network'
>> wizard but it appears to make no difference, regardless of which option I
>> choose.
>>
>> XP's choice as regards whether or not to set up that second connection
>> appears to be quite random as far as I'm concerned... I'd be most grateful
>> for advice on how to solve this odd and slightly unnerving problem. Please
>> bear in mind that, although PC literate, I'm something of a novice in this
>> area.
>>
>
>The "Internet Gateway" icon is a means of accessing and configuring your
>router without having to use a browser to access its built-in web
>configuration pages. 

"Peter Boulding" <pjbnews1@UNSPAMpboulding.co.uk> wrote in message
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> On Sat, 06 Jun 2009 13:18:11 -0400, Lem <lemp40@unknownhost> wrote in
> <#F#tErs5JHA.6***@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl>:
>
>>Peter Boulding wrote:
>>> The setup: a WinXPSP3 PC connected to the internet via a network cable
>>> linking its Realtek RTL8139 Family PCI network adaptor to a four-port
>>> Netgear DG834G (v3--UK) wireless firewall ADSL router. Wireless
>>> capability
>>> is not currently in use and is disabled; no other PC is currently
>>> connected
>>> to the router.
>>>
>>>
>>> The user (me): a novice as regards XP, networking, and ADSL.
>>>
>>>
>>> The problem:
>>>
>>> Sometimes, when I boot up the PC, only one network connection is
>>> created--namely "Local Area Connection" (type 'LAN or High Speed
>>> Internet';
>>> Device name 'Realtek RTL8139 Family PCI Fast Ethernet NIC'). When this
>>> happens, all is well.
>>>
>>> But sometimes, when I boot up the PC, a second network connection is
>>> also
>>> created--namely "Internet Connection" (type: 'internet gateway'; Device
>>> name
>>> 'internet connection'). When this happens, the network card talks
>>> incessantly to the router at a rate of approx. 39kbits/sec down, and
>>> 45kbits/sec up (measurements from Networx.exe, a freeware LAN monitor).
>>>
>>> In either case I can access internet services, but in the latter case
>>> the
>>> incessant chatter just never stops; heaven knows what the network card
>>> and
>>> router are trying to tell each other. Every time this data flow appears
>>> on
>>> the Networx graph I get the horrids in case some malware has taken over
>>> my
>>> PC and is sending out a pile of spam or suchlike, although a check on
>>> the
>>> internet connection's status display shows that the packets are only
>>> passing
>>> between the two devices until I make use of an internet service such as
>>> the
>>> web or check mail or suchlike.
>>>
>>> I have repeatedly tried running the 'set up a home or small office
>>> network'
>>> wizard but it appears to make no difference, regardless of which option
>>> I
>>> choose.
>>>
>>> XP's choice as regards whether or not to set up that second connection
>>> appears to be quite random as far as I'm concerned... I'd be most
>>> grateful
>>> for advice on how to solve this odd and slightly unnerving problem.
>>> Please
>>> bear in mind that, although PC literate, I'm something of a novice in
>>> this
>>> area.
>>>
>>
>>The "Internet Gateway" icon is a means of accessing and configuring your
>>router without having to use a browser to access its built-in web
>>configuration pages.
>
> Hmm... It does let me display some very limited info from the router,
> including the passage of packets between the router and my ISP's gateway,
> and to "disable" it--which causes the router to disconnect my ADSL link,
> but
> mostly it tells me I don't have permission; I have to use my browser to
> see
> and change most router settings.
>
>>If you don't want it, go into your router's
>>configuration pages and disable UPnP (Universal Plug and Play).
>
> OK ... have done, and this indeed has stopped the incessant data flow
> between network card and router.
>
>>Alternately, you can disable UPnP:
>>
>>- Manually disable the UPnP device host service by typing "services.msc"
>>(without quotes) in Start > Run and set Startup Type to "Disabled."
>>
>>- Use Steve Gibson's utility to do it: http://www.grc.com/unpnp/unpnp.htm
>
> Haven't tried disabling UPnP on the PC, having no idea what else that
> might
> affect (or why I might want it in the future).
>
>>Probably more than you want to know:
>>Settings for minimizing periodic WAN traffic
>>http://support.microsoft.com/kb/819108
>
> Indeed: that KB article is talking about stuff I know damn all about.
> Luckily it also seems to be pretty irrelevant to my setup, with XP Home;
> no
> domain controller involved; no dialup or ISDN; and NetBIOS disabled.
>
>
> Anyway: disabling the router's UPnP service has done the trick--for which
> my
> grateful thanks--but I still wonder what the Hell could cause UPnP to need
> to send non-stop traffic to the network card at a rate of 39kbits/sec and
> cause the card to reply with an equally continuous 45kbits/sec.
>
> --
> Regards,   Peter Boulding
> pjbnews1@UNSPAMpboulding.co.uk (to e-mail, remove "UNSPAM")
> Fractal Music and Images: http://www.pboulding.co.uk/ and
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"Peter Boulding" <pjbnews1@UNSPAMpboulding.co.uk> wrote in message
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> On Sat, 6 Jun 2009 21:47:52 -0400, "Jack [MVP-Networking]"
> <j***@discussiongroup.com> wrote in
> <em1eXIx5JHA.1***@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl>:
>
>>>I still wonder what the Hell could cause UPnP to need
>>> to send non-stop traffic to the network card at a rate of 39kbits/sec
>>> and
>>> cause the card to reply with an equally continuous 45kbits/sec.
>
>>Quote: "If you haven't yet tackled the constant UPnP chatter on your
>>network, read on to discover what UPnP traffic is".
>>Continue here,
>>http://windowsitpro.com/article/articleid/26008/the-perils-of-upnp.html
>
> Without being a subscriber I only get to read the first two paragraphs,
> but
> that includes: "Every time the UPnP specter raises its ugly head, the
> traffic pattern is always consistent: The firewall logs four UPnP packets
> every 25 seconds from each system, 24 hours a day."
>
> For that to explain a continuous data flow of around 5 KB/sec from a
> single
> network card to the router each UPnP packet would have to be around 30KB
> in
> size... Is that realistic?
>
> --
> Regards,   Peter Boulding
> pjbnews1@UNSPAMpboulding.co.uk (to e-mail, remove "UNSPAM")
> Fractal Music and Images: http://www.pboulding.co.uk/ and
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