"Stan Hilliard" <usenetreplyMS@samplingplansNOTSPAM.com> wrote in message
news:9qam251n5v236dcfj6jg09vv6398tkom85@4ax.com...
>I have three PCs on a home network. OSs are XP-Pro-SP2 connected by
> Ethernet to  Win98SE, and by wireless, XP-Home-SP3 on a Laptop.
>
> Question -- Why can't the two Ethernet-connected PCs see each other
> unless the laptop is also on with the wireless connection established?
>
> Here is the hardware configuration:
> Comcast cable to Motorola SB5120 Surfboard cable modem.
> Ethernet: Modem to Win98 PC.
> Ethernet: Win98PC to Netgear WNR2000 wireless router.
> Ethernet: Netgear WNR2000 to XP-Pro-SP2.
> Wireless: Netgear WNR2000 to Netgear Adapter WN511B on XP-Home laptop.
>
> Using windows explorer, the two Ethernet-connected PCs cannot see each
> other unless the laptop is on and connected by wireless. Then all
> three computers see each other in explorer. When I break the wireless
> connection to the laptop the Ethernet connected PCs again cannot see
> each other.
>
> Why is the laptop necessary for the Ethernet network to work? How can
> I change this situation?
>
> Stan Hilliard
>

"Stan Hilliard" <usenetreplyMS@samplingplansNOTSPAM.com> wrote in message
news:9qam251n5v236dcfj6jg09vv6398tkom85@4ax.com...
>I have three PCs on a home network. OSs are XP-Pro-SP2 connected by
> Ethernet to  Win98SE, and by wireless, XP-Home-SP3 on a Laptop.
>
> Question -- Why can't the two Ethernet-connected PCs see each other
> unless the laptop is also on with the wireless connection established?
>
> Here is the hardware configuration:
> Comcast cable to Motorola SB5120 Surfboard cable modem.
> Ethernet: Modem to Win98 PC.
> Ethernet: Win98PC to Netgear WNR2000 wireless router.
> Ethernet: Netgear WNR2000 to XP-Pro-SP2.
> Wireless: Netgear WNR2000 to Netgear Adapter WN511B on XP-Home laptop.
>
> Using windows explorer, the two Ethernet-connected PCs cannot see each
> other unless the laptop is on and connected by wireless. Then all
> three computers see each other in explorer. When I break the wireless
> connection to the laptop the Ethernet connected PCs again cannot see
> each other.
>
> Why is the laptop necessary for the Ethernet network to work? How can
> I change this situation?
>
> Stan Hilliard
>

On Sat, 6 Jun 2009 17:49:08 -1000, "Randem" <newsgro***@randem.com>
wrote:
>That is a bad network configuration. Why are you going from the modem to the
>Win98 PC instead of directly to the Netgear WNR2000 router? That
>configuration would allow all three computers to see each other especially
>if they all were part of the same workgroup. But they still would be able to
>see each other thru IP addresses.
>
>--
>Randem Systems
>Your Installation Specialist
>The Top Inno Setup Script Generator
>http://www.randem.com/innoscript.html
>Disk Read Error Press Ctl+Alt+Del to Restart
>http://www.randem.com/discus/messages/9402/9406.html?1236319938
>
>
>
>"Stan Hilliard" <usenetreplyMS@samplingplansNOTSPAM.com> wrote in message
>news:9qam251n5v236dcfj6jg09vv6398tkom85@4ax.com...
>>I have three PCs on a home network. OSs are XP-Pro-SP2 connected by
>> Ethernet to  Win98SE, and by wireless, XP-Home-SP3 on a Laptop.
>>
>> Question -- Why can't the two Ethernet-connected PCs see each other
>> unless the laptop is also on with the wireless connection established?
>>
>> Here is the hardware configuration:
>> Comcast cable to Motorola SB5120 Surfboard cable modem.
>> Ethernet: Modem to Win98 PC.
>> Ethernet: Win98PC to Netgear WNR2000 wireless router.
>> Ethernet: Netgear WNR2000 to XP-Pro-SP2.
>> Wireless: Netgear WNR2000 to Netgear Adapter WN511B on XP-Home laptop.
>>
>> Using windows explorer, the two Ethernet-connected PCs cannot see each
>> other unless the laptop is on and connected by wireless. Then all
>> three computers see each other in explorer. When I break the wireless
>> connection to the laptop the Ethernet connected PCs again cannot see
>> each other.
>>
>> Why is the laptop necessary for the Ethernet network to work? How can
>> I change this situation?
>>
>> Stan Hilliard
>>
>

"Stan Hilliard" <usenetreplyMS@samplingplansNOTSPAM.com> wrote in message
news:b6jm25ht8n84iglmum34m4nq1fktd7auhl@4ax.com...
> ==== OOPs, my mistake. The configuration is/was really: ====
> Comcast cable to Motorola SB5120 Surfboard cable modem.
> Ethernet: Cable Modem to Netgear WNR2000 wireless router.
> Ethernet: Netgear WNR2000  wireless router to Win98PC.
> Ethernet: Netgear WNR2000  wireless router to XP-Pro-SP2.
> Wireless: Netgear WNR2000  wireless router to Netgear Adapter WN511B
> on XP-Home laptop.
>
> All three computers have the same workgroup. How can I determine the
> three IP addresses?
> Stan
>
>
> On Sat, 6 Jun 2009 17:49:08 -1000, "Randem" <newsgro***@randem.com>
> wrote:
>>That is a bad network configuration. Why are you going from the modem to
>>the
>>Win98 PC instead of directly to the Netgear WNR2000 router? That
>>configuration would allow all three computers to see each other especially
>>if they all were part of the same workgroup. But they still would be able
>>to
>>see each other thru IP addresses.
>>
>>--
>>Randem Systems
>>Your Installation Specialist
>>The Top Inno Setup Script Generator
>>http://www.randem.com/innoscript.html
>>Disk Read Error Press Ctl+Alt+Del to Restart
>>http://www.randem.com/discus/messages/9402/9406.html?1236319938
>>
>>
>>
>>"Stan Hilliard" <usenetreplyMS@samplingplansNOTSPAM.com> wrote in message
>>news:9qam251n5v236dcfj6jg09vv6398tkom85@4ax.com...
>>>I have three PCs on a home network. OSs are XP-Pro-SP2 connected by
>>> Ethernet to  Win98SE, and by wireless, XP-Home-SP3 on a Laptop.
>>>
>>> Question -- Why can't the two Ethernet-connected PCs see each other
>>> unless the laptop is also on with the wireless connection established?
>>>
>>> Here is the hardware configuration:
>>> Comcast cable to Motorola SB5120 Surfboard cable modem.
>>> Ethernet: Modem to Win98 PC.
>>> Ethernet: Win98PC to Netgear WNR2000 wireless router.
>>> Ethernet: Netgear WNR2000 to XP-Pro-SP2.
>>> Wireless: Netgear WNR2000 to Netgear Adapter WN511B on XP-Home laptop.
>>>
>>> Using windows explorer, the two Ethernet-connected PCs cannot see each
>>> other unless the laptop is on and connected by wireless. Then all
>>> three computers see each other in explorer. When I break the wireless
>>> connection to the laptop the Ethernet connected PCs again cannot see
>>> each other.
>>>
>>> Why is the laptop necessary for the Ethernet network to work? How can
>>> I change this situation?
>>>
>>> Stan Hilliard
>>>
>>
>

On Sat, 6 Jun 2009 18:51:25 -1000, "Randem" <newsgro***@randem.com>
wrote:
>Open a command prompt (Run->cmd) then type in
>
>ipconfig /all
>
>do this on each computer to find out the ip addresses then once you find out
>all ip addresses you can type in each window on eac computer
>
>Ping <IPaddress>
>
>Where <IPaddress> is the actual ip address of one of the other computers. If
>you can see them via IP address there will be a reply from that computer
>other wise there will be a timeout.
>
>BTW: All the ip addresses should be similar...
>
>After you get this far report back and we will take further steps.
>
>--
>Randem Systems
>Your Installation Specialist
>The Top Inno Setup Script Generator
>http://www.randem.com/innoscript.html
>Disk Read Error Press Ctl+Alt+Del to Restart
>http://www.randem.com/discus/messages/9402/9406.html?1236319938
>
>
>
>"Stan Hilliard" <usenetreplyMS@samplingplansNOTSPAM.com> wrote in message
>news:b6jm25ht8n84iglmum34m4nq1fktd7auhl@4ax.com...
>> ==== OOPs, my mistake. The configuration is/was really: ====
>> Comcast cable to Motorola SB5120 Surfboard cable modem.
>> Ethernet: Cable Modem to Netgear WNR2000 wireless router.
>> Ethernet: Netgear WNR2000  wireless router to Win98PC.
>> Ethernet: Netgear WNR2000  wireless router to XP-Pro-SP2.
>> Wireless: Netgear WNR2000  wireless router to Netgear Adapter WN511B
>> on XP-Home laptop.
>>
>> All three computers have the same workgroup. How can I determine the
>> three IP addresses?
>> Stan
>>
>>
>> On Sat, 6 Jun 2009 17:49:08 -1000, "Randem" <newsgro***@randem.com>
>> wrote:
>>>That is a bad network configuration. Why are you going from the modem to
>>>the
>>>Win98 PC instead of directly to the Netgear WNR2000 router? That
>>>configuration would allow all three computers to see each other especially
>>>if they all were part of the same workgroup. But they still would be able
>>>to
>>>see each other thru IP addresses.
>>>
>>>--
>>>Randem Systems
>>>Your Installation Specialist
>>>The Top Inno Setup Script Generator
>>>http://www.randem.com/innoscript.html
>>>Disk Read Error Press Ctl+Alt+Del to Restart
>>>http://www.randem.com/discus/messages/9402/9406.html?1236319938
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>"Stan Hilliard" <usenetreplyMS@samplingplansNOTSPAM.com> wrote in message
>>>news:9qam251n5v236dcfj6jg09vv6398tkom85@4ax.com...
>>>>I have three PCs on a home network. OSs are XP-Pro-SP2 connected by
>>>> Ethernet to  Win98SE, and by wireless, XP-Home-SP3 on a Laptop.
>>>>
>>>> Question -- Why can't the two Ethernet-connected PCs see each other
>>>> unless the laptop is also on with the wireless connection established?
>>>>
>>>> Here is the hardware configuration:
>>>> Comcast cable to Motorola SB5120 Surfboard cable modem.
>>>> Ethernet: Modem to Win98 PC.
>>>> Ethernet: Win98PC to Netgear WNR2000 wireless router.
>>>> Ethernet: Netgear WNR2000 to XP-Pro-SP2.
>>>> Wireless: Netgear WNR2000 to Netgear Adapter WN511B on XP-Home laptop.
>>>>
>>>> Using windows explorer, the two Ethernet-connected PCs cannot see each
>>>> other unless the laptop is on and connected by wireless. Then all
>>>> three computers see each other in explorer. When I break the wireless
>>>> connection to the laptop the Ethernet connected PCs again cannot see
>>>> each other.
>>>>
>>>> Why is the laptop necessary for the Ethernet network to work? How can
>>>> I change this situation?
>>>>
>>>> Stan Hilliard
>>>>
>>>
>>
>

"Stan Hilliard" <usenetreplyMS@samplingplansNOTSPAM.com> wrote in message
news:ji6p2552mps5p50578lnfl1d6t648busva@4ax.com...
> 1) The pings work with the following addresses. However I there seems
> to be several choices so I pasted the three ipconfig outputs below. I
> suspect I have some configuration issues. Do they look reasonable?
>
> 2) Are these the right IP addresses?
> Win98SE                TOWER  IP Address: 192.168.1.1
> XP-Pro           HOMEBUILT  IP Address: 192.168.1.5
> XP-Home  BARBS-LAPTOP  IP Address: 192.168.1.7
>
> 3) Host Names: Why are the ipconfig host names not the same as the
> computer names in network neighborhood, as shown under the workgroup
> name=servicco? On win98SE the computer name is tower.
>
> =================================================
> ==== TOWER Win98SE =============================
> Windows 98 IP Configuration
> Host Name . . . . . . . . . : Stan Hilliard
> DNS Servers . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
> Node Type . . . . . . . . . : Broadcast
> NetBIOS Scope ID. . . . . . :
> IP Routing Enabled. . . . . : No
> WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . : No
> NetBIOS Resolution Uses DNS : No
> 0 Ethernet adapter :
> Description . . . . . . . . : PPP Adapter.
> Physical Address. . . . . . : 44-45-53-54-00-00
> DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . : Yes
> IP Address. . . . . . . . . : 0.0.0.0
> Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . : 0.0.0.0
> Default Gateway . . . . . . :
> DHCP Server . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.255
> Primary WINS Server . . . . :
> Secondary WINS Server . . . :
> Lease Obtained. . . . . . . :
> Lease Expires . . . . . . . :
> 1 Ethernet adapter :
> Description . . . . . . . . : Linksys LNE100TX(v5) Fast
> Ethernet Adapter NDIS5 Driver
> Physical Address. . . . . . : 00-04-5A-80-A4-2F
> DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . : Yes
> IP Address. . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.3
> Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
> Default Gateway . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
> DHCP Server . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
> Primary WINS Server . . . . :
> Secondary WINS Server . . . :
> Lease Obtained. . . . . . . : 06 07 09 8:54:43 PM
> Lease Expires . . . . . . . : 06 08 09 8:54:43 PM
>
> =================================================
> ==== homebuilt XP-Pro SP2 ==========================
> Windows IP Configuration
>        Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : homebuilt
>        Primary Dns Suffix  . . . . . . . :
>        Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Unknown
>        IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : Yes
>        WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : Yes
> Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:
>        Connection-specific DNS Suffix  . :
>        Description . . . . . . . . . . . : IC Plus IP100 10/100 Fast
> Ethernet Adapter
>        Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-50-8D-82-87-D7
>        Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
>        Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
>        IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.5
>        Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
>        Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
>        DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
>        DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
>        Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Sunday, June 07, 2009
> 7:01:48 PM
>        Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Monday, June 08, 2009
> 7:01:48 PM
>
> ===============================================
> ==== BARBS-LAPTOP XP-hOME SP3 ================
> Windows IP Configuration
>        Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : BARBS-LAPTOP
>        Primary Dns Suffix  . . . . . . . :
>        Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid
>        IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
>        WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
> Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection 2:
>        Connection-specific DNS Suffix  . :
>        Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Microsoft Loopback Adapter
>        Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 02-00-4C-4F-4F-50
>        Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
>        Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
>        Autoconfiguration IP Address. . . : 169.254.25.129
>        Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.0.0
>        Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :
> Ethernet adapter Wireless Network Connection 5:
>        Connection-specific DNS Suffix  . :
>        Description . . . . . . . . . . . : RangeMax(tm) NEXT Wireless
> Notebook Adapter WN511B
>        Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-14-6C-D2-FE-4E
>        Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
>        Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
>        IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.7
>        Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
>        Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
>        DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
>        DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
>        Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Sunday, June 07, 2009
> 8:46:01 PM
>        Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Monday, June 08, 2009
> 8:46:01 PM
> Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:
>        Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
>        Description . . . . . . . . . . . : National Semiconductor
> Corp. DP83815/816 10/100 MacPhyter PCI Adapter
>        Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-0B-CD-87-45-9F

"Randem" <newsgro***@randem.com> wrote in message
news:OOEtqfA6JHA.4116@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> What is your routers IP address? Normally it is 192.168.1.1 but you have
> your Win98 computer setup for that address. Don't run DHCP or DNS on the
> Win98 computer that should only be active on the router.
>
> --
> Randem Systems
> Your Installation Specialist
> The Top Inno Setup Script Generator
> http://www.randem.com/innoscript.html
> Disk Read Error Press Ctl+Alt+Del to Restart
> http://www.randem.com/discus/messages/9402/9406.html?1236319938
>
>
>
> "Stan Hilliard" <usenetreplyMS@samplingplansNOTSPAM.com> wrote in message
> news:ji6p2552mps5p50578lnfl1d6t648busva@4ax.com...
>> 1) The pings work with the following addresses. However I there seems
>> to be several choices so I pasted the three ipconfig outputs below. I
>> suspect I have some configuration issues. Do they look reasonable?
>>
>> 2) Are these the right IP addresses?
>> Win98SE                TOWER  IP Address: 192.168.1.1
>> XP-Pro           HOMEBUILT  IP Address: 192.168.1.5
>> XP-Home  BARBS-LAPTOP  IP Address: 192.168.1.7
>>
>> 3) Host Names: Why are the ipconfig host names not the same as the
>> computer names in network neighborhood, as shown under the workgroup
>> name=servicco? On win98SE the computer name is tower.
>>
>> =================================================
>> ==== TOWER Win98SE =============================
>> Windows 98 IP Configuration
>> Host Name . . . . . . . . . : Stan Hilliard
>> DNS Servers . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
>> Node Type . . . . . . . . . : Broadcast
>> NetBIOS Scope ID. . . . . . :
>> IP Routing Enabled. . . . . : No
>> WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . : No
>> NetBIOS Resolution Uses DNS : No
>> 0 Ethernet adapter :
>> Description . . . . . . . . : PPP Adapter.
>> Physical Address. . . . . . : 44-45-53-54-00-00
>> DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . : Yes
>> IP Address. . . . . . . . . : 0.0.0.0
>> Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . : 0.0.0.0
>> Default Gateway . . . . . . :
>> DHCP Server . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.255
>> Primary WINS Server . . . . :
>> Secondary WINS Server . . . :
>> Lease Obtained. . . . . . . :
>> Lease Expires . . . . . . . :
>> 1 Ethernet adapter :
>> Description . . . . . . . . : Linksys LNE100TX(v5) Fast
>> Ethernet Adapter NDIS5 Driver
>> Physical Address. . . . . . : 00-04-5A-80-A4-2F
>> DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . : Yes
>> IP Address. . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.3
>> Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
>> Default Gateway . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
>> DHCP Server . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
>> Primary WINS Server . . . . :
>> Secondary WINS Server . . . :
>> Lease Obtained. . . . . . . : 06 07 09 8:54:43 PM
>> Lease Expires . . . . . . . : 06 08 09 8:54:43 PM
>>
>> =================================================
>> ==== homebuilt XP-Pro SP2 ==========================
>> Windows IP Configuration
>>        Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : homebuilt
>>        Primary Dns Suffix  . . . . . . . :
>>        Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Unknown
>>        IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : Yes
>>        WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : Yes
>> Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:
>>        Connection-specific DNS Suffix  . :
>>        Description . . . . . . . . . . . : IC Plus IP100 10/100 Fast
>> Ethernet Adapter
>>        Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-50-8D-82-87-D7
>>        Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
>>        Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
>>        IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.5
>>        Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
>>        Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
>>        DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
>>        DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
>>        Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Sunday, June 07, 2009
>> 7:01:48 PM
>>        Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Monday, June 08, 2009
>> 7:01:48 PM
>>
>> ===============================================
>> ==== BARBS-LAPTOP XP-hOME SP3 ================
>> Windows IP Configuration
>>        Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : BARBS-LAPTOP
>>        Primary Dns Suffix  . . . . . . . :
>>        Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid
>>        IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
>>        WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
>> Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection 2:
>>        Connection-specific DNS Suffix  . :
>>        Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Microsoft Loopback Adapter
>>        Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 02-00-4C-4F-4F-50
>>        Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
>>        Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
>>        Autoconfiguration IP Address. . . : 169.254.25.129
>>        Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.0.0
>>        Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :
>> Ethernet adapter Wireless Network Connection 5:
>>        Connection-specific DNS Suffix  . :
>>        Description . . . . . . . . . . . : RangeMax(tm) NEXT Wireless
>> Notebook Adapter WN511B
>>        Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-14-6C-D2-FE-4E
>>        Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
>>        Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
>>        IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.7
>>        Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
>>        Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
>>        DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
>>        DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
>>        Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Sunday, June 07, 2009
>> 8:46:01 PM
>>        Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Monday, June 08, 2009
>> 8:46:01 PM
>> Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:
>>        Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
>>        Description . . . . . . . . . . . : National Semiconductor
>> Corp. DP83815/816 10/100 MacPhyter PCI Adapter
>>        Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-0B-CD-87-45-9F
>
>

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>
>
>
>"Randem" <newsgro***@randem.com> wrote in message
>news:OOEtqfA6JHA.4116@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> What is your routers IP address? Normally it is 192.168.1.1 but you have
>> your Win98 computer setup for that address. Don't run DHCP or DNS on the
>> Win98 computer that should only be active on the router.
>>
>> --
>> Randem Systems
>> Your Installation Specialist
>> The Top Inno Setup Script Generator
>> http://www.randem.com/innoscript.html
>> Disk Read Error Press Ctl+Alt+Del to Restart
>> http://www.randem.com/discus/messages/9402/9406.html?1236319938
>>
>>
>>
>> "Stan Hilliard" <usenetreplyMS@samplingplansNOTSPAM.com> wrote in message
>> news:ji6p2552mps5p50578lnfl1d6t648busva@4ax.com...
>>> 1) The pings work with the following addresses. However I there seems
>>> to be several choices so I pasted the three ipconfig outputs below. I
>>> suspect I have some configuration issues. Do they look reasonable?
>>>
>>> 2) Are these the right IP addresses?
>>> Win98SE                TOWER  IP Address: 192.168.1.1
>>> XP-Pro           HOMEBUILT  IP Address: 192.168.1.5
>>> XP-Home  BARBS-LAPTOP  IP Address: 192.168.1.7
>>>
>>> 3) Host Names: Why are the ipconfig host names not the same as the
>>> computer names in network neighborhood, as shown under the workgroup
>>> name=servicco? On win98SE the computer name is tower.
>>>
>>> =================================================
>>> ==== TOWER Win98SE =============================
>>> Windows 98 IP Configuration
>>> Host Name . . . . . . . . . : Stan Hilliard
>>> DNS Servers . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
>>> Node Type . . . . . . . . . : Broadcast
>>> NetBIOS Scope ID. . . . . . :
>>> IP Routing Enabled. . . . . : No
>>> WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . : No
>>> NetBIOS Resolution Uses DNS : No
>>> 0 Ethernet adapter :
>>> Description . . . . . . . . : PPP Adapter.
>>> Physical Address. . . . . . : 44-45-53-54-00-00
>>> DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . : Yes
>>> IP Address. . . . . . . . . : 0.0.0.0
>>> Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . : 0.0.0.0
>>> Default Gateway . . . . . . :
>>> DHCP Server . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.255
>>> Primary WINS Server . . . . :
>>> Secondary WINS Server . . . :
>>> Lease Obtained. . . . . . . :
>>> Lease Expires . . . . . . . :
>>> 1 Ethernet adapter :
>>> Description . . . . . . . . : Linksys LNE100TX(v5) Fast
>>> Ethernet Adapter NDIS5 Driver
>>> Physical Address. . . . . . : 00-04-5A-80-A4-2F
>>> DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . : Yes
>>> IP Address. . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.3
>>> Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
>>> Default Gateway . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
>>> DHCP Server . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
>>> Primary WINS Server . . . . :
>>> Secondary WINS Server . . . :
>>> Lease Obtained. . . . . . . : 06 07 09 8:54:43 PM
>>> Lease Expires . . . . . . . : 06 08 09 8:54:43 PM
>>>
>>> =================================================
>>> ==== homebuilt XP-Pro SP2 ==========================
>>> Windows IP Configuration
>>>        Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : homebuilt
>>>        Primary Dns Suffix  . . . . . . . :
>>>        Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Unknown
>>>        IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : Yes
>>>        WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : Yes
>>> Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:
>>>        Connection-specific DNS Suffix  . :
>>>        Description . . . . . . . . . . . : IC Plus IP100 10/100 Fast
>>> Ethernet Adapter
>>>        Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-50-8D-82-87-D7
>>>        Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
>>>        Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
>>>        IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.5
>>>        Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
>>>        Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
>>>        DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
>>>        DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
>>>        Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Sunday, June 07, 2009
>>> 7:01:48 PM
>>>        Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Monday, June 08, 2009
>>> 7:01:48 PM
>>>
>>> ===============================================
>>> ==== BARBS-LAPTOP XP-hOME SP3 ================
>>> Windows IP Configuration
>>>        Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : BARBS-LAPTOP
>>>        Primary Dns Suffix  . . . . . . . :
>>>        Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid
>>>        IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
>>>        WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
>>> Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection 2:
>>>        Connection-specific DNS Suffix  . :
>>>        Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Microsoft Loopback Adapter
>>>        Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 02-00-4C-4F-4F-50
>>>        Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
>>>        Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
>>>        Autoconfiguration IP Address. . . : 169.254.25.129
>>>        Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.0.0
>>>        Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :
>>> Ethernet adapter Wireless Network Connection 5:
>>>        Connection-specific DNS Suffix  . :
>>>        Description . . . . . . . . . . . : RangeMax(tm) NEXT Wireless
>>> Notebook Adapter WN511B
>>>        Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-14-6C-D2-FE-4E
>>>        Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
>>>        Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
>>>        IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.7
>>>        Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
>>>        Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
>>>        DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
>>>        DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
>>>        Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Sunday, June 07, 2009
>>> 8:46:01 PM
>>>        Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Monday, June 08, 2009
>>> 8:46:01 PM
>>> Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:
>>>        Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
>>>        Description . . . . . . . . . . . : National Semiconductor
>>> Corp. DP83815/816 10/100 MacPhyter PCI Adapter
>>>        Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-0B-CD-87-45-9F
>>
>>
>

>On Sun, 7 Jun 2009 21:12:16 -1000, "Randem" <newsgro***@randem.com>
>wrote:
>
>>Your Netgear WNR2000 wireless router should be set up for DHCP and it should
>>be the only DHCP server on the network.
>>
>>What address range does your DHCP server give out.
>
>The Netgear WNR2000 DHCP server gives out 192.168.1.2 to 192.168.1.254
>Use Router As DHCP Server is checked.
>RIP Direction = Both
>RIP Version = Disabled
>
>>The addresses of your
>>computers suggest that the Win98 pc is giving out the IP addresses (a Big
>>NO-NO!!!).
>
>I can't find evidence of the Win98 PC giving out the IP addresses. I
>looked in TCP/IP properties. Where else should I look?
>
>>If you only have DHCP on the router and you set all other computers to get
>>the IP and DNS address automatically you should be ok.
>
>The XP-Pro SP2 properties show DNS server as blank and IP address as
>"DHCP Enabled". Ipconfig shows the IP address has changed from
>192.168.1.5 yesterday to 192.168.1.6 today. I shutdown overnight and
>reboot in the morning. Also the node type changed from "unknown" to
>"Broadcast".
>
>The XP-Home Laptop properties show DNS server as blank and IP address
>as blank.
>
>>--
>>Randem Systems
>>Your Installation Specialist
>>The Top Inno Setup Script Generator
>>http://www.randem.com/innoscript.html
>>Disk Read Error Press Ctl+Alt+Del to Restart
>>http://www.randem.com/discus/messages/9402/9406.html?1236319938
>>
>>
>>
>>"Randem" <newsgro***@randem.com> wrote in message
>>news:OOEtqfA6JHA.4116@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>> What is your routers IP address? Normally it is 192.168.1.1 but you have
>>> your Win98 computer setup for that address. Don't run DHCP or DNS on the
>>> Win98 computer that should only be active on the router.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Randem Systems
>>> Your Installation Specialist
>>> The Top Inno Setup Script Generator
>>> http://www.randem.com/innoscript.html
>>> Disk Read Error Press Ctl+Alt+Del to Restart
>>> http://www.randem.com/discus/messages/9402/9406.html?1236319938
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "Stan Hilliard" <usenetreplyMS@samplingplansNOTSPAM.com> wrote in message
>>> news:ji6p2552mps5p50578lnfl1d6t648busva@4ax.com...
>>>> 1) The pings work with the following addresses. However I there seems
>>>> to be several choices so I pasted the three ipconfig outputs below. I
>>>> suspect I have some configuration issues. Do they look reasonable?
>>>>
>>>> 2) Are these the right IP addresses?
>>>> Win98SE                TOWER  IP Address: 192.168.1.1
>>>> XP-Pro           HOMEBUILT  IP Address: 192.168.1.5
>>>> XP-Home  BARBS-LAPTOP  IP Address: 192.168.1.7
>>>>
>>>> 3) Host Names: Why are the ipconfig host names not the same as the
>>>> computer names in network neighborhood, as shown under the workgroup
>>>> name=servicco? On win98SE the computer name is tower.
>>>>
>>>> =================================================
>>>> ==== TOWER Win98SE =============================
>>>> Windows 98 IP Configuration
>>>> Host Name . . . . . . . . . : Stan Hilliard
>>>> DNS Servers . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
>>>> Node Type . . . . . . . . . : Broadcast
>>>> NetBIOS Scope ID. . . . . . :
>>>> IP Routing Enabled. . . . . : No
>>>> WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . : No
>>>> NetBIOS Resolution Uses DNS : No
>>>> 0 Ethernet adapter :
>>>> Description . . . . . . . . : PPP Adapter.
>>>> Physical Address. . . . . . : 44-45-53-54-00-00
>>>> DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . : Yes
>>>> IP Address. . . . . . . . . : 0.0.0.0
>>>> Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . : 0.0.0.0
>>>> Default Gateway . . . . . . :
>>>> DHCP Server . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.255
>>>> Primary WINS Server . . . . :
>>>> Secondary WINS Server . . . :
>>>> Lease Obtained. . . . . . . :
>>>> Lease Expires . . . . . . . :
>>>> 1 Ethernet adapter :
>>>> Description . . . . . . . . : Linksys LNE100TX(v5) Fast
>>>> Ethernet Adapter NDIS5 Driver
>>>> Physical Address. . . . . . : 00-04-5A-80-A4-2F
>>>> DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . : Yes
>>>> IP Address. . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.3
>>>> Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
>>>> Default Gateway . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
>>>> DHCP Server . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
>>>> Primary WINS Server . . . . :
>>>> Secondary WINS Server . . . :
>>>> Lease Obtained. . . . . . . : 06 07 09 8:54:43 PM
>>>> Lease Expires . . . . . . . : 06 08 09 8:54:43 PM
>>>>
>>>> =================================================
>>>> ==== homebuilt XP-Pro SP2 ==========================
>>>> Windows IP Configuration
>>>>        Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : homebuilt
>>>>        Primary Dns Suffix  . . . . . . . :
>>>>        Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Unknown
>>>>        IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : Yes
>>>>        WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : Yes
>>>> Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:
>>>>        Connection-specific DNS Suffix  . :
>>>>        Description . . . . . . . . . . . : IC Plus IP100 10/100 Fast
>>>> Ethernet Adapter
>>>>        Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-50-8D-82-87-D7
>>>>        Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
>>>>        Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
>>>>        IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.5
>>>>        Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
>>>>        Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
>>>>        DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
>>>>        DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
>>>>        Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Sunday, June 07, 2009
>>>> 7:01:48 PM
>>>>        Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Monday, June 08, 2009
>>>> 7:01:48 PM
>>>>
>>>> ===============================================
>>>> ==== BARBS-LAPTOP XP-hOME SP3 ================
>>>> Windows IP Configuration
>>>>        Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : BARBS-LAPTOP
>>>>        Primary Dns Suffix  . . . . . . . :
>>>>        Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid
>>>>        IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
>>>>        WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
>>>> Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection 2:
>>>>        Connection-specific DNS Suffix  . :
>>>>        Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Microsoft Loopback Adapter
>>>>        Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 02-00-4C-4F-4F-50
>>>>        Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
>>>>        Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
>>>>        Autoconfiguration IP Address. . . : 169.254.25.129
>>>>        Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.0.0
>>>>        Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :
>>>> Ethernet adapter Wireless Network Connection 5:
>>>>        Connection-specific DNS Suffix  . :
>>>>        Description . . . . . . . . . . . : RangeMax(tm) NEXT Wireless
>>>> Notebook Adapter WN511B
>>>>        Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-14-6C-D2-FE-4E
>>>>        Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
>>>>        Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
>>>>        IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.7
>>>>        Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
>>>>        Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
>>>>        DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
>>>>        DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
>>>>        Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Sunday, June 07, 2009
>>>> 8:46:01 PM
>>>>        Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Monday, June 08, 2009
>>>> 8:46:01 PM
>>>> Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:
>>>>        Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
>>>>        Description . . . . . . . . . . . : National Semiconductor
>>>> Corp. DP83815/816 10/100 MacPhyter PCI Adapter
>>>>        Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-0B-CD-87-45-9F
>>>
>>>
>>

"Stan Hilliard" <usenetreplyMS@samplingplansNOTSPAM.com> wrote in message
news:jc7q25p45jtva0tbtiq7akq579r0htdq5p@4ax.com...
> On Sun, 7 Jun 2009 21:08:27 -1000, "Randem" <newsgro***@randem.com>
> wrote:
>>What is your routers IP address? Normally it is 192.168.1.1 but you have
>>your Win98 computer setup for that address.
>
> The router's IP address is 192.168.1.1
>
> The Win98SE computer's [Network] [TCP/IP] [Properties] are/were set as
> follows:
> [IP address] = "Obtain an IP address automatically."
>
>> Don't run DHCP or DNS on the
>>Win98 computer that should only be active on the router.
>
> The Win98SE computer's [network] [TCP/IP] [Properties] are/were set as
> follows:
> [DNS Configuration] = "Disable DNS"
>
> The only mention I see of DHCP in the Win98SE computer's [Network]
> [TCP/IP]  [Properties] are as follows:
> [WINS Configuration] = "Use DHCP for WINS Resolution"

>"Stan Hilliard" <usenetreplyMS@samplingplansNOTSPAM.com> wrote in message
>news:jc7q25p45jtva0tbtiq7akq579r0htdq5p@4ax.com...
>> On Sun, 7 Jun 2009 21:08:27 -1000, "Randem" <newsgro***@randem.com>
>> wrote:
>>>What is your routers IP address? Normally it is 192.168.1.1 but you have
>>>your Win98 computer setup for that address.
>>
>> The router's IP address is 192.168.1.1
>>
>> The Win98SE computer's [Network] [TCP/IP] [Properties] are/were set as
>> follows:
>> [IP address] = "Obtain an IP address automatically."
>>
>>> Don't run DHCP or DNS on the
>>>Win98 computer that should only be active on the router.
>>
>> The Win98SE computer's [network] [TCP/IP] [Properties] are/were set as
>> follows:
>> [DNS Configuration] = "Disable DNS"
>>
>> The only mention I see of DHCP in the Win98SE computer's [Network]
>> [TCP/IP]  [Properties] are as follows:
>> [WINS Configuration] = "Use DHCP for WINS Resolution"
>

"Stan Hilliard" <usenetreplyMS@samplingplansNOTSPAM.com> wrote in message news:9qam251n5v236dcfj6jg09vv6398tkom85@4ax.com...
>I have three PCs on a home network. OSs are XP-Pro-SP2 connected by
> Ethernet to  Win98SE, and by wireless, XP-Home-SP3 on a Laptop.
>
> Question -- Why can't the two Ethernet-connected PCs see each other
> unless the laptop is also on with the wireless connection established?
>
> Here is the hardware configuration:
> Comcast cable to Motorola SB5120 Surfboard cable modem.
> Ethernet: Modem to Win98 PC.
> Ethernet: Win98PC to Netgear WNR2000 wireless router.
> Ethernet: Netgear WNR2000 to XP-Pro-SP2.
> Wireless: Netgear WNR2000 to Netgear Adapter WN511B on XP-Home laptop.
>
> Using windows explorer, the two Ethernet-connected PCs cannot see each
> other unless the laptop is on and connected by wireless. Then all
> three computers see each other in explorer. When I break the wireless
> connection to the laptop the Ethernet connected PCs again cannot see
> each other.
>
> Why is the laptop necessary for the Ethernet network to work? How can
> I change this situation?
>
> Stan Hilliard
>

  "Stan Hilliard" <usenetreplyMS@samplingplansNOTSPAM.com> wrote in message news:9qam251n5v236dcfj6jg09vv6398tkom85@4ax.com...
  >I have three PCs on a home network. OSs are XP-Pro-SP2 connected by
  > Ethernet to  Win98SE, and by wireless, XP-Home-SP3 on a Laptop.
  >
  > Question -- Why can't the two Ethernet-connected PCs see each other
  > unless the laptop is also on with the wireless connection established?
  >
  > Here is the hardware configuration:
  > Comcast cable to Motorola SB5120 Surfboard cable modem.
  > Ethernet: Modem to Win98 PC.
  > Ethernet: Win98PC to Netgear WNR2000 wireless router.
  > Ethernet: Netgear WNR2000 to XP-Pro-SP2.
  > Wireless: Netgear WNR2000 to Netgear Adapter WN511B on XP-Home laptop.
  >
  > Using windows explorer, the two Ethernet-connected PCs cannot see each
  > other unless the laptop is on and connected by wireless. Then all
  > three computers see each other in explorer. When I break the wireless
  > connection to the laptop the Ethernet connected PCs again cannot see
  > each other.
  >
  > Why is the laptop necessary for the Ethernet network to work? How can
  > I change this situation?
  >
  > Stan Hilliard
  >

>  "Stan Hilliard" <usenetreplyMS@samplingplansNOTSPAM.com> wrote in message news:9qam251n5v236dcfj6jg09vv6398tkom85@4ax.com...
>  >I have three PCs on a home network. OSs are XP-Pro-SP2 connected by
>  > Ethernet to  Win98SE, and by wireless, XP-Home-SP3 on a Laptop.
>  >
>  > Question -- Why can't the two Ethernet-connected PCs see each other
>  > unless the laptop is also on with the wireless connection established?
>  >
>  > Here is the hardware configuration:
>  > Comcast cable to Motorola SB5120 Surfboard cable modem.
>  > Ethernet: Modem to Win98 PC.
>  > Ethernet: Win98PC to Netgear WNR2000 wireless router.
>  > Ethernet: Netgear WNR2000 to XP-Pro-SP2.
>  > Wireless: Netgear WNR2000 to Netgear Adapter WN511B on XP-Home laptop.
>  >
>  > Using windows explorer, the two Ethernet-connected PCs cannot see each
>  > other unless the laptop is on and connected by wireless. Then all
>  > three computers see each other in explorer. When I break the wireless
>  > connection to the laptop the Ethernet connected PCs again cannot see
>  > each other.
>  >
>  > Why is the laptop necessary for the Ethernet network to work? How can
>  > I change this situation?
>  >
>  > Stan Hilliard
>  >

> On Sat, 6 Jun 2009 21:58:13 -0600, "Donald" <donaldhu***@live.ca>
> wrote:
>>  You can make sure all your computers are with the IP address in the same subnet so they will be able to see each other no matter how many are online. subnet
> I don't think I have a subnet. Could that be my problem?
> Stan Hilliard
>
>>  "Stan Hilliard" <usenetreplyMS@samplingplansNOTSPAM.com> wrote in message news:9qam251n5v236dcfj6jg09vv6398tkom85@4ax.com...
>>  >I have three PCs on a home network. OSs are XP-Pro-SP2 connected by
>>  > Ethernet to  Win98SE, and by wireless, XP-Home-SP3 on a Laptop.
>>  >
>>  > Question -- Why can't the two Ethernet-connected PCs see each other
>>  > unless the laptop is also on with the wireless connection established?
>>  >
>>  > Here is the hardware configuration:
>>  > Comcast cable to Motorola SB5120 Surfboard cable modem.
>>  > Ethernet: Modem to Win98 PC.
>>  > Ethernet: Win98PC to Netgear WNR2000 wireless router.
>>  > Ethernet: Netgear WNR2000 to XP-Pro-SP2.
>>  > Wireless: Netgear WNR2000 to Netgear Adapter WN511B on XP-Home laptop.
>>  >
>>  > Using windows explorer, the two Ethernet-connected PCs cannot see each
>>  > other unless the laptop is on and connected by wireless. Then all
>>  > three computers see each other in explorer. When I break the wireless
>>  > connection to the laptop the Ethernet connected PCs again cannot see
>>  > each other.
>>  >
>>  > Why is the laptop necessary for the Ethernet network to work? How can
>>  > I change this situation?
>>  >
>>  > Stan Hilliard
>>  >
>

>I have three PCs on a home network. OSs are XP-Pro-SP2 connected by
>Ethernet to  Win98SE, and by wireless, XP-Home-SP3 on a Laptop.
>
>Question -- Why can't the two Ethernet-connected PCs see each other
>unless the laptop is also on with the wireless connection established?
>
>Here is the hardware configuration:
>Comcast cable to Motorola SB5120 Surfboard cable modem.
>Ethernet: Modem to Win98 PC.
>Ethernet: Win98PC to Netgear WNR2000 wireless router.
>Ethernet: Netgear WNR2000 to XP-Pro-SP2.
>Wireless: Netgear WNR2000 to Netgear Adapter WN511B on XP-Home laptop.
>
>Using windows explorer, the two Ethernet-connected PCs cannot see each
>other unless the laptop is on and connected by wireless. Then all
>three computers see each other in explorer. When I break the wireless
>connection to the laptop the Ethernet connected PCs again cannot see
>each other.
>
>Why is the laptop necessary for the Ethernet network to work? How can
>I change this situation?
>
>Stan Hilliard

>On Sat, 06 Jun 2009 22:02:08 -0500, Stan Hilliard
><usenetreplyMS@samplingplansNOTSPAM.com> wrote:
>
>>I have three PCs on a home network. OSs are XP-Pro-SP2 connected by
>>Ethernet to  Win98SE, and by wireless, XP-Home-SP3 on a Laptop.
>>
>>Question -- Why can't the two Ethernet-connected PCs see each other
>>unless the laptop is also on with the wireless connection established?
>>
>>Here is the hardware configuration:
>>Comcast cable to Motorola SB5120 Surfboard cable modem.
>>Ethernet: Modem to Win98 PC.
>>Ethernet: Win98PC to Netgear WNR2000 wireless router.
>>Ethernet: Netgear WNR2000 to XP-Pro-SP2.
>>Wireless: Netgear WNR2000 to Netgear Adapter WN511B on XP-Home laptop.
>>
>>Using windows explorer, the two Ethernet-connected PCs cannot see each
>>other unless the laptop is on and connected by wireless. Then all
>>three computers see each other in explorer. When I break the wireless
>>connection to the laptop the Ethernet connected PCs again cannot see
>>each other.
>>
>>Why is the laptop necessary for the Ethernet network to work? How can
>>I change this situation?
>>
>>Stan Hilliard
>
>Network browsing in Network Neighborhood and My Network Places depends
>on having one computer, designated as the "master browser", keep track
>of the computers and respond to browsing requests from other
>computers.  If that computer leaves the network, the other computers
>are supposed to notice and elect another computer as the "master
>browser". 

"Stan Hilliard" <usenetreplyMS@samplingplansNOTSPAM.com> wrote in message
news:h9jq259ks938de1oneg74msmr11n8gl4fb@4ax.com...
>I inserted messages below.
>
> On Sun, 07 Jun 2009 03:07:54 -0600, "Steve Winograd [MS-MVP]"
> <bc0705***@comcast.net> wrote:
>>On Sat, 06 Jun 2009 22:02:08 -0500, Stan Hilliard
>><usenetreplyMS@samplingplansNOTSPAM.com> wrote:
>>
>>>I have three PCs on a home network. OSs are XP-Pro-SP2 connected by
>>>Ethernet to  Win98SE, and by wireless, XP-Home-SP3 on a Laptop.
>>>
>>>Question -- Why can't the two Ethernet-connected PCs see each other
>>>unless the laptop is also on with the wireless connection established?
>>>
>>>Here is the hardware configuration:
>>>Comcast cable to Motorola SB5120 Surfboard cable modem.
>>>Ethernet: Modem to Win98 PC.
>>>Ethernet: Win98PC to Netgear WNR2000 wireless router.
>>>Ethernet: Netgear WNR2000 to XP-Pro-SP2.
>>>Wireless: Netgear WNR2000 to Netgear Adapter WN511B on XP-Home laptop.
>>>
>>>Using windows explorer, the two Ethernet-connected PCs cannot see each
>>>other unless the laptop is on and connected by wireless. Then all
>>>three computers see each other in explorer. When I break the wireless
>>>connection to the laptop the Ethernet connected PCs again cannot see
>>>each other.
>>>
>>>Why is the laptop necessary for the Ethernet network to work? How can
>>>I change this situation?
>>>
>>>Stan Hilliard
>>
>>Network browsing in Network Neighborhood and My Network Places depends
>>on having one computer, designated as the "master browser", keep track
>>of the computers and respond to browsing requests from other
>>computers.  If that computer leaves the network, the other computers
>>are supposed to notice and elect another computer as the "master
>>browser".
>
> Is there a way to specify which computer is the master browser?
>
>>This process is inherently unreliable. You can spend a lot of time
>>troubleshooting it, but I don't think it's worth the trouble.
>
> A while back I tried to use Acronis 9.1 to backup my Win98SE to a HDD
> on the XP-Pro computer. I couldn't make the connection at that time.
> Perhaps it will work now that I know that the XP-Home Laptop has to be
> connected in order to connect the other two computers. But I would
> like to be able to make that connection not depend on having the
> laptop.
>
>>Here are two ways to access another computer without using network
>>browsing:
>>
>>1. Click Start > Run, type the other computer's name in "Open" box in
>>this format, and click OK:
>>
>>   \\computer
>
> I tried that and it worked.
>
>>2. Create a desktop shortcut to the other computer, specifying the
>>location of the item as:
>>
>>   \\computer
>
> I have done that and it works.

>"Stan Hilliard" <usenetreplyMS@samplingplansNOTSPAM.com> wrote in message
>news:h9jq259ks938de1oneg74msmr11n8gl4fb@4ax.com...
>>I inserted messages below.
>>
>> On Sun, 07 Jun 2009 03:07:54 -0600, "Steve Winograd [MS-MVP]"
>> <bc0705***@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>On Sat, 06 Jun 2009 22:02:08 -0500, Stan Hilliard
>>><usenetreplyMS@samplingplansNOTSPAM.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>I have three PCs on a home network. OSs are XP-Pro-SP2 connected by
>>>>Ethernet to  Win98SE, and by wireless, XP-Home-SP3 on a Laptop.
>>>>
>>>>Question -- Why can't the two Ethernet-connected PCs see each other
>>>>unless the laptop is also on with the wireless connection established?
>>>>
>>>>Here is the hardware configuration:
>>>>Comcast cable to Motorola SB5120 Surfboard cable modem.
>>>>Ethernet: Modem to Win98 PC.
>>>>Ethernet: Win98PC to Netgear WNR2000 wireless router.
>>>>Ethernet: Netgear WNR2000 to XP-Pro-SP2.
>>>>Wireless: Netgear WNR2000 to Netgear Adapter WN511B on XP-Home laptop.
>>>>
>>>>Using windows explorer, the two Ethernet-connected PCs cannot see each
>>>>other unless the laptop is on and connected by wireless. Then all
>>>>three computers see each other in explorer. When I break the wireless
>>>>connection to the laptop the Ethernet connected PCs again cannot see
>>>>each other.
>>>>
>>>>Why is the laptop necessary for the Ethernet network to work? How can
>>>>I change this situation?
>>>>
>>>>Stan Hilliard
>>>
>>>Network browsing in Network Neighborhood and My Network Places depends
>>>on having one computer, designated as the "master browser", keep track
>>>of the computers and respond to browsing requests from other
>>>computers.  If that computer leaves the network, the other computers
>>>are supposed to notice and elect another computer as the "master
>>>browser".
>>
>> Is there a way to specify which computer is the master browser?
>>
>>>This process is inherently unreliable. You can spend a lot of time
>>>troubleshooting it, but I don't think it's worth the trouble.
>>
>> A while back I tried to use Acronis 9.1 to backup my Win98SE to a HDD
>> on the XP-Pro computer. I couldn't make the connection at that time.
>> Perhaps it will work now that I know that the XP-Home Laptop has to be
>> connected in order to connect the other two computers. But I would
>> like to be able to make that connection not depend on having the
>> laptop.
>>
>>>Here are two ways to access another computer without using network
>>>browsing:
>>>
>>>1. Click Start > Run, type the other computer's name in "Open" box in
>>>this format, and click OK:
>>>
>>>   \\computer
>>
>> I tried that and it worked.
>>
>>>2. Create a desktop shortcut to the other computer, specifying the
>>>location of the item as:
>>>
>>>   \\computer
>>
>> I have done that and it works.

On Mon, 8 Jun 2009 16:43:12 -1000, "Randem" <newsgro***@randem.com>
wrote:
>Now that that all worked what is the actual problem you are having now?

"Stan Hilliard" <usenetreplyMS@samplingplansNOTSPAM.com> wrote in message
news:fo5635l5hon2br1o6ombqe4ftb0p4ck9d5@4ax.com...
> >"Stan Hilliard" <usenetreplyMS@samplingplansNOTSPAM.com> wrote in message
>>news:h9jq259ks938de1oneg74msmr11n8gl4fb@4ax.com...
>>>I inserted messages below.
>>>
>>> On Sun, 07 Jun 2009 03:07:54 -0600, "Steve Winograd [MS-MVP]"
>>> <bc0705***@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>On Sat, 06 Jun 2009 22:02:08 -0500, Stan Hilliard
>>>><usenetreplyMS@samplingplansNOTSPAM.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>I have three PCs on a home network. OSs are XP-Pro-SP2 connected by
>>>>>Ethernet to  Win98SE, and by wireless, XP-Home-SP3 on a Laptop.
>>>>>
>>>>>Question -- Why can't the two Ethernet-connected PCs see each other
>>>>>unless the laptop is also on with the wireless connection established?
>>>>>
>>>>>Here is the hardware configuration:
>>>>>Comcast cable to Motorola SB5120 Surfboard cable modem.
>>>>>Ethernet: Modem to Win98 PC.
>>>>>Ethernet: Win98PC to Netgear WNR2000 wireless router.
>>>>>Ethernet: Netgear WNR2000 to XP-Pro-SP2.
>>>>>Wireless: Netgear WNR2000 to Netgear Adapter WN511B on XP-Home laptop.
>>>>>
>>>>>Using windows explorer, the two Ethernet-connected PCs cannot see each
>>>>>other unless the laptop is on and connected by wireless. Then all
>>>>>three computers see each other in explorer. When I break the wireless
>>>>>connection to the laptop the Ethernet connected PCs again cannot see
>>>>>each other.
>>>>>
>>>>>Why is the laptop necessary for the Ethernet network to work? How can
>>>>>I change this situation?
>>>>>
>>>>>Stan Hilliard
>>>>
>>>>Network browsing in Network Neighborhood and My Network Places depends
>>>>on having one computer, designated as the "master browser", keep track
>>>>of the computers and respond to browsing requests from other
>>>>computers.  If that computer leaves the network, the other computers
>>>>are supposed to notice and elect another computer as the "master
>>>>browser".
>>>
>>> Is there a way to specify which computer is the master browser?
>>>
>>>>This process is inherently unreliable. You can spend a lot of time
>>>>troubleshooting it, but I don't think it's worth the trouble.
>>>
>>> A while back I tried to use Acronis 9.1 to backup my Win98SE to a HDD
>>> on the XP-Pro computer. I couldn't make the connection at that time.
>>> Perhaps it will work now that I know that the XP-Home Laptop has to be
>>> connected in order to connect the other two computers. But I would
>>> like to be able to make that connection not depend on having the
>>> laptop.
>>>
>>>>Here are two ways to access another computer without using network
>>>>browsing:
>>>>
>>>>1. Click Start > Run, type the other computer's name in "Open" box in
>>>>this format, and click OK:
>>>>
>>>>   \\computer
>>>
>>> I tried that and it worked.
>>>
>>>>2. Create a desktop shortcut to the other computer, specifying the
>>>>location of the item as:
>>>>
>>>>   \\computer
>>>
>>> I have done that and it works.
>
> On Mon, 8 Jun 2009 16:43:12 -1000, "Randem" <newsgro***@randem.com>
> wrote:
>>Now that that all worked what is the actual problem you are having now?
>
> After doing some homework I was able to identify the fact that the
> laptop with XP-Home contained the master browser. This would explain
> why Network Neighborhood stopped working when I disconnected the
> laptop. I tried to fix this by  disabling the laptop's master browser
> thinking that one of the other computers would take over that role.
> But they did not so far.
>
> Here are the other settings:
>
> Laptop: XP-Home:
> Programs>Administrative Tools>Services>Computer Browser>General
> Startup Type: I changed Automatic to Disabled
>
> Win98SE:
> In File and Printer Sharing for Microsoft Networks
> Browser Master = Automatic
>
> XP-Pro:
> Programs>Administrative Tools>Services>Computer Browser>General
> Startup Type is Automatic
>
> Q -- How can I make XP-Pro computer a master browser so that Network
> Neighborhood will work again?
>
> Stan Hilliard

>"Stan Hilliard" <usenetreplyMS@samplingplansNOTSPAM.com> wrote in message
>news:fo5635l5hon2br1o6ombqe4ftb0p4ck9d5@4ax.com...
>> >"Stan Hilliard" <usenetreplyMS@samplingplansNOTSPAM.com> wrote in message
>>>news:h9jq259ks938de1oneg74msmr11n8gl4fb@4ax.com...
>>>>I inserted messages below.
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, 07 Jun 2009 03:07:54 -0600, "Steve Winograd [MS-MVP]"
>>>> <bc0705***@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>>On Sat, 06 Jun 2009 22:02:08 -0500, Stan Hilliard
>>>>><usenetreplyMS@samplingplansNOTSPAM.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>I have three PCs on a home network. OSs are XP-Pro-SP2 connected by
>>>>>>Ethernet to  Win98SE, and by wireless, XP-Home-SP3 on a Laptop.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Question -- Why can't the two Ethernet-connected PCs see each other
>>>>>>unless the laptop is also on with the wireless connection established?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Here is the hardware configuration:
>>>>>>Comcast cable to Motorola SB5120 Surfboard cable modem.
>>>>>>Ethernet: Modem to Win98 PC.
>>>>>>Ethernet: Win98PC to Netgear WNR2000 wireless router.
>>>>>>Ethernet: Netgear WNR2000 to XP-Pro-SP2.
>>>>>>Wireless: Netgear WNR2000 to Netgear Adapter WN511B on XP-Home laptop.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Using windows explorer, the two Ethernet-connected PCs cannot see each
>>>>>>other unless the laptop is on and connected by wireless. Then all
>>>>>>three computers see each other in explorer. When I break the wireless
>>>>>>connection to the laptop the Ethernet connected PCs again cannot see
>>>>>>each other.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Why is the laptop necessary for the Ethernet network to work? How can
>>>>>>I change this situation?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Stan Hilliard
>>>>>
>>>>>Network browsing in Network Neighborhood and My Network Places depends
>>>>>on having one computer, designated as the "master browser", keep track
>>>>>of the computers and respond to browsing requests from other
>>>>>computers.  If that computer leaves the network, the other computers
>>>>>are supposed to notice and elect another computer as the "master
>>>>>browser".
>>>>
>>>> Is there a way to specify which computer is the master browser?
>>>>
>>>>>This process is inherently unreliable. You can spend a lot of time
>>>>>troubleshooting it, but I don't think it's worth the trouble.
>>>>
>>>> A while back I tried to use Acronis 9.1 to backup my Win98SE to a HDD
>>>> on the XP-Pro computer. I couldn't make the connection at that time.
>>>> Perhaps it will work now that I know that the XP-Home Laptop has to be
>>>> connected in order to connect the other two computers. But I would
>>>> like to be able to make that connection not depend on having the
>>>> laptop.
>>>>
>>>>>Here are two ways to access another computer without using network
>>>>>browsing:
>>>>>
>>>>>1. Click Start > Run, type the other computer's name in "Open" box in
>>>>>this format, and click OK:
>>>>>
>>>>>   \\computer
>>>>
>>>> I tried that and it worked.
>>>>
>>>>>2. Create a desktop shortcut to the other computer, specifying the
>>>>>location of the item as:
>>>>>
>>>>>   \\computer
>>>>
>>>> I have done that and it works.
>>
>> On Mon, 8 Jun 2009 16:43:12 -1000, "Randem" <newsgro***@randem.com>
>> wrote:
>>>Now that that all worked what is the actual problem you are having now?
>>
>> After doing some homework I was able to identify the fact that the
>> laptop with XP-Home contained the master browser. This would explain
>> why Network Neighborhood stopped working when I disconnected the
>> laptop. I tried to fix this by  disabling the laptop's master browser
>> thinking that one of the other computers would take over that role.
>> But they did not so far.
>>
>> Here are the other settings:
>>
>> Laptop: XP-Home:
>> Programs>Administrative Tools>Services>Computer Browser>General
>> Startup Type: I changed Automatic to Disabled
>>
>> Win98SE:
>> In File and Printer Sharing for Microsoft Networks
>> Browser Master = Automatic
>>
>> XP-Pro:
>> Programs>Administrative Tools>Services>Computer Browser>General
>> Startup Type is Automatic
>>
>> Q -- How can I make XP-Pro computer a master browser so that Network
>> Neighborhood will work again?
>>
>> Stan Hilliard

>Hi
>Try this,
>"HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\Browser\Parameters
>REG_SZ IsDomainMaster True or False" , Set it to True.
>Jack (MS, MVP-Networking)

>On Sat, 13 Jun 2009 11:43:51 -0400, "Jack [MVP-Networking]"
><j***@discussiongroup.com> wrote:
>
>>"Stan Hilliard" <usenetreplyMS@samplingplansNOTSPAM.com> wrote in message
>>news:fo5635l5hon2br1o6ombqe4ftb0p4ck9d5@4ax.com...
>>> >"Stan Hilliard" <usenetreplyMS@samplingplansNOTSPAM.com> wrote in message
>>>>news:h9jq259ks938de1oneg74msmr11n8gl4fb@4ax.com...
>>>>>I inserted messages below.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, 07 Jun 2009 03:07:54 -0600, "Steve Winograd [MS-MVP]"
>>>>> <bc0705***@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>>>On Sat, 06 Jun 2009 22:02:08 -0500, Stan Hilliard
>>>>>><usenetreplyMS@samplingplansNOTSPAM.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I have three PCs on a home network. OSs are XP-Pro-SP2 connected by
>>>>>>>Ethernet to  Win98SE, and by wireless, XP-Home-SP3 on a Laptop.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Question -- Why can't the two Ethernet-connected PCs see each other
>>>>>>>unless the laptop is also on with the wireless connection established?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Here is the hardware configuration:
>>>>>>>Comcast cable to Motorola SB5120 Surfboard cable modem.
>>>>>>>Ethernet: Modem to Win98 PC.
>>>>>>>Ethernet: Win98PC to Netgear WNR2000 wireless router.
>>>>>>>Ethernet: Netgear WNR2000 to XP-Pro-SP2.
>>>>>>>Wireless: Netgear WNR2000 to Netgear Adapter WN511B on XP-Home laptop.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Using windows explorer, the two Ethernet-connected PCs cannot see each
>>>>>>>other unless the laptop is on and connected by wireless. Then all
>>>>>>>three computers see each other in explorer. When I break the wireless
>>>>>>>connection to the laptop the Ethernet connected PCs again cannot see
>>>>>>>each other.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Why is the laptop necessary for the Ethernet network to work? How can
>>>>>>>I change this situation?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Stan Hilliard
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Network browsing in Network Neighborhood and My Network Places depends
>>>>>>on having one computer, designated as the "master browser", keep track
>>>>>>of the computers and respond to browsing requests from other
>>>>>>computers.  If that computer leaves the network, the other computers
>>>>>>are supposed to notice and elect another computer as the "master
>>>>>>browser".
>>>>>
>>>>> Is there a way to specify which computer is the master browser?
>>>>>
>>>>>>This process is inherently unreliable. You can spend a lot of time
>>>>>>troubleshooting it, but I don't think it's worth the trouble.
>>>>>
>>>>> A while back I tried to use Acronis 9.1 to backup my Win98SE to a HDD
>>>>> on the XP-Pro computer. I couldn't make the connection at that time.
>>>>> Perhaps it will work now that I know that the XP-Home Laptop has to be
>>>>> connected in order to connect the other two computers. But I would
>>>>> like to be able to make that connection not depend on having the
>>>>> laptop.
>>>>>
>>>>>>Here are two ways to access another computer without using network
>>>>>>browsing:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>1. Click Start > Run, type the other computer's name in "Open" box in
>>>>>>this format, and click OK:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>   \\computer
>>>>>
>>>>> I tried that and it worked.
>>>>>
>>>>>>2. Create a desktop shortcut to the other computer, specifying the
>>>>>>location of the item as:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>   \\computer
>>>>>
>>>>> I have done that and it works.
>>>
>>> On Mon, 8 Jun 2009 16:43:12 -1000, "Randem" <newsgro***@randem.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>>Now that that all worked what is the actual problem you are having now?
>>>
>>> After doing some homework I was able to identify the fact that the
>>> laptop with XP-Home contained the master browser. This would explain
>>> why Network Neighborhood stopped working when I disconnected the
>>> laptop. I tried to fix this by  disabling the laptop's master browser
>>> thinking that one of the other computers would take over that role.
>>> But they did not so far.
>>>
>>> Here are the other settings:
>>>
>>> Laptop: XP-Home:
>>> Programs>Administrative Tools>Services>Computer Browser>General
>>> Startup Type: I changed Automatic to Disabled
>>>
>>> Win98SE:
>>> In File and Printer Sharing for Microsoft Networks
>>> Browser Master = Automatic
>>>
>>> XP-Pro:
>>> Programs>Administrative Tools>Services>Computer Browser>General
>>> Startup Type is Automatic
>>>
>>> Q -- How can I make XP-Pro computer a master browser so that Network
>>> Neighborhood will work again?
>>>
>>> Stan Hilliard
>
>>Hi
>>Try this,
>>"HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\Browser\Parameters
>>REG_SZ IsDomainMaster True or False" , Set it to True.
>>Jack (MS, MVP-Networking)
>
>I made that change FALSE --->TRUE to the registry of the XP-Pro and
>the XP-Home laptop. The Win98SE register does not have
>...services\browser\parameters. Still no master browser is shown. Here
>I what I have on the XP-Pro:
>
>From nbtstat -n:
>Local Area Connection:
>Node IpAddress: [192.168.1.3] Scope Id: []
>                NetBIOS Local Name Table
>       Name               Type         Status
>    ---------------------------------------------
>    HOMEBUILT      <00>  UNIQUE      Registered
>    WORKGROUP      <00>  GROUP       Registered
>    HOMEBUILT      <03>  UNIQUE      Registered
>    HOMEBUILT      <20>  UNIQUE      Registered
>
>
>From IPconfig /all
>Windows IP Configuration
>        Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : homebuilt
>        Primary Dns Suffix  . . . . . . . :
>        Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Broadcast
>        IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : Yes
>        WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : Yes
>Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:
>        Connection-specific DNS Suffix  . :
>        Description . . . . . . . . . . . : IC Plus IP100 10/100 Fast
>Ethernet Adapter
>        Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-50-8D-82-87-D7
>        Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
>        Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
>        IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.3
>        Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
>        Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
>        DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
>        DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
>        Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Saturday, June 13, 2009
>7:41:00 PM
>        Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Sunday, June 14, 2009
>7:41:00 PM

>On Sat, 13 Jun 2009 21:42:02 -0500, Stan Hilliard
><usenetreplyMS@samplingplansNOTSPAM.com> wrote:
>
>>On Sat, 13 Jun 2009 11:43:51 -0400, "Jack [MVP-Networking]"
>><j***@discussiongroup.com> wrote:
>>
>>>"Stan Hilliard" <usenetreplyMS@samplingplansNOTSPAM.com> wrote in message
>>>news:fo5635l5hon2br1o6ombqe4ftb0p4ck9d5@4ax.com...
>>>> >"Stan Hilliard" <usenetreplyMS@samplingplansNOTSPAM.com> wrote in message
>>>>>news:h9jq259ks938de1oneg74msmr11n8gl4fb@4ax.com...
>>>>>>I inserted messages below.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sun, 07 Jun 2009 03:07:54 -0600, "Steve Winograd [MS-MVP]"
>>>>>> <bc0705***@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>On Sat, 06 Jun 2009 22:02:08 -0500, Stan Hilliard
>>>>>>><usenetreplyMS@samplingplansNOTSPAM.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>I have three PCs on a home network. OSs are XP-Pro-SP2 connected by
>>>>>>>>Ethernet to  Win98SE, and by wireless, XP-Home-SP3 on a Laptop.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Question -- Why can't the two Ethernet-connected PCs see each other
>>>>>>>>unless the laptop is also on with the wireless connection established?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Here is the hardware configuration:
>>>>>>>>Comcast cable to Motorola SB5120 Surfboard cable modem.
>>>>>>>>Ethernet: Modem to Win98 PC.
>>>>>>>>Ethernet: Win98PC to Netgear WNR2000 wireless router.
>>>>>>>>Ethernet: Netgear WNR2000 to XP-Pro-SP2.
>>>>>>>>Wireless: Netgear WNR2000 to Netgear Adapter WN511B on XP-Home laptop.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Using windows explorer, the two Ethernet-connected PCs cannot see each
>>>>>>>>other unless the laptop is on and connected by wireless. Then all
>>>>>>>>three computers see each other in explorer. When I break the wireless
>>>>>>>>connection to the laptop the Ethernet connected PCs again cannot see
>>>>>>>>each other.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Why is the laptop necessary for the Ethernet network to work? How can
>>>>>>>>I change this situation?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Stan Hilliard
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Network browsing in Network Neighborhood and My Network Places depends
>>>>>>>on having one computer, designated as the "master browser", keep track
>>>>>>>of the computers and respond to browsing requests from other
>>>>>>>computers.  If that computer leaves the network, the other computers
>>>>>>>are supposed to notice and elect another computer as the "master
>>>>>>>browser".
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Is there a way to specify which computer is the master browser?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>This process is inherently unreliable. You can spend a lot of time
>>>>>>>troubleshooting it, but I don't think it's worth the trouble.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> A while back I tried to use Acronis 9.1 to backup my Win98SE to a HDD
>>>>>> on the XP-Pro computer. I couldn't make the connection at that time.
>>>>>> Perhaps it will work now that I know that the XP-Home Laptop has to be
>>>>>> connected in order to connect the other two computers. But I would
>>>>>> like to be able to make that connection not depend on having the
>>>>>> laptop.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Here are two ways to access another computer without using network
>>>>>>>browsing:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>1. Click Start > Run, type the other computer's name in "Open" box in
>>>>>>>this format, and click OK:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>   \\computer
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I tried that and it worked.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>2. Create a desktop shortcut to the other computer, specifying the
>>>>>>>location of the item as:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>   \\computer
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have done that and it works.
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, 8 Jun 2009 16:43:12 -1000, "Randem" <newsgro***@randem.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>Now that that all worked what is the actual problem you are having now?
>>>>
>>>> After doing some homework I was able to identify the fact that the
>>>> laptop with XP-Home contained the master browser. This would explain
>>>> why Network Neighborhood stopped working when I disconnected the
>>>> laptop. I tried to fix this by  disabling the laptop's master browser
>>>> thinking that one of the other computers would take over that role.
>>>> But they did not so far.
>>>>
>>>> Here are the other settings:
>>>>
>>>> Laptop: XP-Home:
>>>> Programs>Administrative Tools>Services>Computer Browser>General
>>>> Startup Type: I changed Automatic to Disabled
>>>>
>>>> Win98SE:
>>>> In File and Printer Sharing for Microsoft Networks
>>>> Browser Master = Automatic
>>>>
>>>> XP-Pro:
>>>> Programs>Administrative Tools>Services>Computer Browser>General
>>>> Startup Type is Automatic
>>>>
>>>> Q -- How can I make XP-Pro computer a master browser so that Network
>>>> Neighborhood will work again?
>>>>
>>>> Stan Hilliard
>>
>>>Hi
>>>Try this,
>>>"HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\Browser\Parameters
>>>REG_SZ IsDomainMaster True or False" , Set it to True.
>>>Jack (MS, MVP-Networking)
>>
>>I made that change FALSE --->TRUE to the registry of the XP-Pro and
>>the XP-Home laptop. The Win98SE register does not have
>>...services\browser\parameters. Still no master browser is shown. Here
>>I what I have on the XP-Pro:
>>
>>From nbtstat -n:
>>Local Area Connection:
>>Node IpAddress: [192.168.1.3] Scope Id: []
>>                NetBIOS Local Name Table
>>       Name               Type         Status
>>    ---------------------------------------------
>>    HOMEBUILT      <00>  UNIQUE      Registered
>>    WORKGROUP      <00>  GROUP       Registered
>>    HOMEBUILT      <03>  UNIQUE      Registered
>>    HOMEBUILT      <20>  UNIQUE      Registered
>>
>>
>>From IPconfig /all
>>Windows IP Configuration
>>        Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : homebuilt
>>        Primary Dns Suffix  . . . . . . . :
>>        Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Broadcast
>>        IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : Yes
>>        WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : Yes
>>Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:
>>        Connection-specific DNS Suffix  . :
>>        Description . . . . . . . . . . . : IC Plus IP100 10/100 Fast
>>Ethernet Adapter
>>        Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-50-8D-82-87-D7
>>        Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
>>        Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
>>        IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.3
>>        Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
>>        Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
>>        DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
>>        DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
>>        Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Saturday, June 13, 2009
>>7:41:00 PM
>>        Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Sunday, June 14, 2009
>>7:41:00 PM
>
>I spoke to soon. I shut off all three computers and the cable modem
>and the router. After startup the Win98SE is the master browser. I was
>hoping it would be the XP-Pro.
>
>I do not understand this because I did not change the Win98SE but I
>did change the registries of the two XPs. Also, network neighborhood
>works between the Win98SE and the wireless  XP-Home laptop. But the
>XP-Pro only sees itself. (Except it can see the others PCs by the
>desktop shortcuts that use their computer names.)
>
>I will shut down everything overnight. Tomorrow I will post status of
>properties.
>Stan Hilliard