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Remove 1 computer from network?Our remote payroll service wants me to take the "payroll" computer off the
network. They are concerned with security. Windows XP Pro. Only 3 computers in workgroup now, connected to DSL router. Do not want to do something uniformed that create other problems.. Help & Thanks JohnEsmay wrote:
> Our remote payroll service wants me to take the "payroll" computer off the Unplug the ethernet cable and the computer will be off the network. You can> network. They are concerned with security. Windows XP Pro. Only 3 > computers in workgroup now, connected to DSL router. Do not want to do > something uniformed that create other problems.. Help & Thanks update it as needed manually. How to download updates and drivers from the Windows Update Catalog or from the Microsoft Update Catalog: http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;323166 Malke Instead of removing the computer from the network, I suggest the following:
1) From control panel, go to Security Center and select Windows Firewall by scrolling down; 2) In the dialogue box, click on "advanced" tab and in that box you will see a button to reset the firewall to default. <http://www.geocities.com/xfsgpr/first.png> click on that button to do exactly that. 3) Now click on "Excptions" tab and remove the cheack marks (tick marks) from everything including "File and Printer Sharing" <http://www.geocities.com/xfsgpr/second.png> 4) Now click on General tab and make sure the second item called "Don't Click OK and the computer is completely secure as recommended by Microsoft. You are using Microsoft's OS right? If so it should be secure now!! This method ensure the computer gets its mothly dosage of MS security patches and the user can still continue using network resources. HOWEVER, NOBODY CAN ACCESS ANY RESOURCES IN THAT MACHINE. This is what you want after all!! Hope this helps. Show quoteHide quote "JohnEsmay" wrote: > Our remote payroll service wants me to take the "payroll" computer off the > network. They are concerned with security. Windows XP Pro. Only 3 > computers in workgroup now, connected to DSL router. Do not want to do > something uniformed that create other problems.. Help & Thanks JohnEsmay wrote:
> Our remote payroll service wants me to take the "payroll" computer off the The problem with either physically disconnecting the payroll computer > network. They are concerned with security. Windows XP Pro. Only 3 > computers in workgroup now, connected to DSL router. Do not want to do > something uniformed that create other problems.. Help & Thanks (clearly, the most secure method of removing a computer from a network) or disallowing exceptions in Windows Firewall is that your remote payroll service may be locked out as well. You need a bit more information about what that remote service needs in terms of access to your payroll computer. At the very least, make sure that the payroll computer is formatted with NTFS and set strong passwords for all accounts, including the built-in Administrator (and *don't* forget to write them down, especially the Administrator account, and keep that info in a safe, secure place -- not on a Post-It attached to the monitor). -- Lem -- MS-MVP To the moon and back with 2K words of RAM and 36K words of ROM. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_Guidance_Computer http://history.nasa.gov/afj/compessay.htm Thanks Lem,
We sign onto the Remote Payroll service locally, and then enter the data. A scan from the remote payroll service detects something it does not like and crashes the program. Their guess was our small network. We also do remote backup. "Payroll" may be seeing that program. Lem, your suggestion for more information is helpful. Jacks suggestion of another router may help. Could I accomplish goal by assigning the payroll computer to a differant workgroup. Would that keep the other computers off the payroll computer but still let everyone connect to the internet? Thanks All John Esmay Show quoteHide quote "Lem" wrote: > JohnEsmay wrote: > > Our remote payroll service wants me to take the "payroll" computer off the > > network. They are concerned with security. Windows XP Pro. Only 3 > > computers in workgroup now, connected to DSL router. Do not want to do > > something uniformed that create other problems.. Help & Thanks > > The problem with either physically disconnecting the payroll computer > (clearly, the most secure method of removing a computer from a network) > or disallowing exceptions in Windows Firewall is that your remote > payroll service may be locked out as well. > > You need a bit more information about what that remote service needs in > terms of access to your payroll computer. > > At the very least, make sure that the payroll computer is formatted with > NTFS and set strong passwords for all accounts, including the built-in > Administrator (and *don't* forget to write them down, especially the > Administrator account, and keep that info in a safe, secure place -- not > on a Post-It attached to the monitor). > > > -- > Lem -- MS-MVP > > To the moon and back with 2K words of RAM and 36K words of ROM. > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_Guidance_Computer > http://history.nasa.gov/afj/compessay.htm > JohnEsmay wrote:
Show quoteHide quote > Thanks Lem, No, a different workgroup wouldn't help. Workgroups are merely a > > We sign onto the Remote Payroll service locally, and then enter the data. A > scan from the remote payroll service detects something it does not like and > crashes the program. Their guess was our small network. We also do remote > backup. "Payroll" may be seeing that program. > > Lem, your suggestion for more information is helpful. > > Jacks suggestion of another router may help. > > Could I accomplish goal by assigning the payroll computer to a differant > workgroup. Would that keep the other computers off the payroll computer but > still let everyone connect to the internet? > > Thanks All > > John Esmay > > "Lem" wrote: > >> JohnEsmay wrote: >>> Our remote payroll service wants me to take the "payroll" computer off the >>> network. They are concerned with security. Windows XP Pro. Only 3 >>> computers in workgroup now, connected to DSL router. Do not want to do >>> something uniformed that create other problems.. Help & Thanks >> The problem with either physically disconnecting the payroll computer >> (clearly, the most secure method of removing a computer from a network) >> or disallowing exceptions in Windows Firewall is that your remote >> payroll service may be locked out as well. >> >> You need a bit more information about what that remote service needs in >> terms of access to your payroll computer. >> >> At the very least, make sure that the payroll computer is formatted with >> NTFS and set strong passwords for all accounts, including the built-in >> Administrator (and *don't* forget to write them down, especially the >> Administrator account, and keep that info in a safe, secure place -- not >> on a Post-It attached to the monitor). >> >> >> -- >> Lem -- MS-MVP >> >> To the moon and back with 2K words of RAM and 36K words of ROM. >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_Guidance_Computer >> http://history.nasa.gov/afj/compessay.htm >> mechanism used by "Network Neighborhood." One can easily access files between workgroups unless there is some other mechanism preventing that access. Jack's suggestion of a segregated network is an effective way to accomplish what you want. All computers can access the Internet but the computers on the two separate networks won't be able to communicate with each other. Whether that configuration would satisfy the "scan" done by your remote payroll service is another story. I suggest that you test your payroll service's "guess" by disconnecting the network cables of all the *other* computers on your network and see if the scan still crashes. In terms of Jack's example, you would put your payroll computer on what Jack calls the "segregated network" with an IP address of 192.168.2.x and your other 2 computers on the "front network" with IP addresses of 192.168.1.x. Note that although Jack's example shows the "front network" as wireless and the segregated network as wired, the connection method is not important. If you don't need wireless capability, neither router need have wireless capability. -- Lem -- MS-MVP To the moon and back with 2K words of RAM and 36K words of ROM. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_Guidance_Computer http://history.nasa.gov/afj/compessay.htm Hi
You can put an additional Router in front of the payroll computer. This will allow the payroll computer to access the other computers but would not be able to Access it. Here is the principle. Network Segregation - http://www.ezlan.net/shield.html Jack (MS, MVP-Networking) Show quoteHide quote "JohnEsmay" <JohnEs***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:2B015934-364F-44C5-8E8D-61A62ED92EE9@microsoft.com... > Our remote payroll service wants me to take the "payroll" computer off the > network. They are concerned with security. Windows XP Pro. Only 3 > computers in workgroup now, connected to DSL router. Do not want to do > something uniformed that create other problems.. Help & Thanks  
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