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Workgroup network -- I want to bypass the "Enter Network Password" dialog.How can I make my workgroup network connect up automatically when I
start a computer without having to enter a password every time? My three computers run XP-Pro, XP-Home, and 98SE. Before I upgraded the XP-Pro from SP2 to SP3, my three computers could connect by workgroup. After I upgraded XP-Pro from SP2 to SP3, the XP-Pro can connect to files on the other two PCs as before. But when XP-Home and 98SE try to connect to the XP-Pro they get a dialog box saying: "Enter Network Password". How can I bypass/eliminate that dialog? Stan Hilliard Stan Hilliard wrote:
Show quoteHide quote > How can I make my workgroup network connect up automatically when I By creating matching user accounts/passwords on all three machines and> start a computer without having to enter a password every time? > > My three computers run XP-Pro, XP-Home, and 98SE. Before I upgraded > the XP-Pro from SP2 to SP3, my three computers could connect by > workgroup. > > After I upgraded XP-Pro from SP2 to SP3, the XP-Pro can connect to > files on the other two PCs as before. But when XP-Home and 98SE try to > connect to the XP-Pro they get a dialog box saying: > > "Enter Network Password". > > How can I bypass/eliminate that dialog? turning off "Use Simple File Sharing" on the XP Pro box. 1. Create matching user accounts and passwords on all machines. You do not need to be logged into the same account on all machines and the passwords assigned to each user account can be different; the accounts/passwords just need to exist and match on all machines. DO NOT NEGLECT TO CREATE PASSWORDS, EVEN IF ONLY SIMPLE ONES. If you wish a machine to boot directly to the Desktop (into one particular user's account) for convenience, you can do this: XP - Configure Windows to Automatically Login (MVP Ramesh) - http://windowsxp.mvps.org/Autologon.htm Uncheck the option "Users must enter a user name and password to use this computer". Select a user account to automatically log on by clicking on the desired account to highlight it and then hit OK. Enter the correct password for that user account (if there is one) when prompted. Leave it blank if there is no password (null). 2. If one or more of the computers is XP Pro or Media Center, turn off Simple File Sharing (Folder Options>View tab). Malke On Sun, 28 Jun 2009 08:04:17 -0700, Malke <malke@invalid.invalid>
wrote: Show quoteHide quote >Stan Hilliard wrote: Thanks. > >> How can I make my workgroup network connect up automatically when I >> start a computer without having to enter a password every time? >> >> My three computers run XP-Pro, XP-Home, and 98SE. Before I upgraded >> the XP-Pro from SP2 to SP3, my three computers could connect by >> workgroup. >> >> After I upgraded XP-Pro from SP2 to SP3, the XP-Pro can connect to >> files on the other two PCs as before. But when XP-Home and 98SE try to >> connect to the XP-Pro they get a dialog box saying: >> >> "Enter Network Password". >> >> How can I bypass/eliminate that dialog? >By creating matching user accounts/passwords on all three machines and >turning off "Use Simple File Sharing" on the XP Pro box. > >1. Create matching user accounts and passwords on all machines. You do not >need to be logged into the same account on all machines and the passwords >assigned to each user account can be different; the accounts/passwords just >need to exist and match on all machines. DO NOT NEGLECT TO CREATE >PASSWORDS, EVEN IF ONLY SIMPLE ONES. If you wish a machine to boot directly >to the Desktop (into one particular user's account) for convenience, you >can do this: > >XP - Configure Windows to Automatically Login (MVP Ramesh) - >http://windowsxp.mvps.org/Autologon.htm > >Uncheck the option "Users must enter a user name and password to use this >computer". Select a user account to automatically log on by clicking on the >desired account to highlight it and then hit OK. Enter the correct password >for that user account (if there is one) when prompted. Leave it blank if >there is no password (null). I understand how to do set up the new user on the XP-Pro and XP-Home computers. But I am not sure about the 98SE. I have never defined a user on that machine. The 98SE is automatically logged in when it starts up. I like it that way. Is it possible on 98SE to define a common user (called commonuser, for example) with a password and still bypass having to log in for everyday use? >2. If one or more of the computers is XP Pro or Media Center, turn off I unchecked "Simple File Sharing".>Simple File Sharing (Folder Options>View tab). >Malke Stan Hilliard Stan Hilliard wrote:
> Thanks. Then by unchecking Simple File Sharing, did it work? Did you reboot? If not,> I understand how to do set up the new user on the XP-Pro and XP-Home > computers. But I am not sure about the 98SE. I have never defined a > user on that machine. The 98SE is automatically logged in when it > starts up. I like it that way. Is it possible on 98SE to define a > common user (called commonuser, for example) with a password and still > bypass having to log in for everyday use? > >>2. If one or more of the computers is XP Pro or Media Center, turn off >>Simple File Sharing (Folder Options>View tab). >>Malke > > I unchecked "Simple File Sharing". please do so. It has been so long since I fired out my Win98 virtual machine that I had to Google around for making specific user accounts. Maybe this link will help: http://www.smartcomputing.com/editorial/article.asp?article=articles/archive/l0508/42l08/42l08.asp&guid= Malke On Win9x there is no userprofiling by default. If one one user exists and
has no password, then logon is automatic. To change the logged-on user is simply a matter of logging off (start/shutdown) and entering a new name with no password. (Wish XP was as simple <g>) Show quoteHide quote "Stan Hilliard" wrote: > On Sun, 28 Jun 2009 08:04:17 -0700, Malke <malke@invalid.invalid> > wrote: > > >Stan Hilliard wrote: > > > >> How can I make my workgroup network connect up automatically when I > >> start a computer without having to enter a password every time? > >> > >> My three computers run XP-Pro, XP-Home, and 98SE. Before I upgraded > >> the XP-Pro from SP2 to SP3, my three computers could connect by > >> workgroup. > >> > >> After I upgraded XP-Pro from SP2 to SP3, the XP-Pro can connect to > >> files on the other two PCs as before. But when XP-Home and 98SE try to > >> connect to the XP-Pro they get a dialog box saying: > >> > >> "Enter Network Password". > >> > >> How can I bypass/eliminate that dialog? > > > >By creating matching user accounts/passwords on all three machines and > >turning off "Use Simple File Sharing" on the XP Pro box. > > > >1. Create matching user accounts and passwords on all machines. You do not > >need to be logged into the same account on all machines and the passwords > >assigned to each user account can be different; the accounts/passwords just > >need to exist and match on all machines. DO NOT NEGLECT TO CREATE > >PASSWORDS, EVEN IF ONLY SIMPLE ONES. If you wish a machine to boot directly > >to the Desktop (into one particular user's account) for convenience, you > >can do this: > > > >XP - Configure Windows to Automatically Login (MVP Ramesh) - > >http://windowsxp.mvps.org/Autologon.htm > > > >Uncheck the option "Users must enter a user name and password to use this > >computer". Select a user account to automatically log on by clicking on the > >desired account to highlight it and then hit OK. Enter the correct password > >for that user account (if there is one) when prompted. Leave it blank if > >there is no password (null). > > Thanks. > I understand how to do set up the new user on the XP-Pro and XP-Home > computers. But I am not sure about the 98SE. I have never defined a > user on that machine. The 98SE is automatically logged in when it > starts up. I like it that way. Is it possible on 98SE to define a > common user (called commonuser, for example) with a password and still > bypass having to log in for everyday use? > > >2. If one or more of the computers is XP Pro or Media Center, turn off > >Simple File Sharing (Folder Options>View tab). > >Malke > > I unchecked "Simple File Sharing". > > Stan Hilliard > On Sun, 28 Jun 2009 08:04:17 -0700, Malke <malke@invalid.invalid>
wrote: Show quoteHide quote >Stan Hilliard wrote: As a first step, I tried to get the two XP machines connected by this> >> How can I make my workgroup network connect up automatically when I >> start a computer without having to enter a password every time? >> >> My three computers run XP-Pro, XP-Home, and 98SE. Before I upgraded >> the XP-Pro from SP2 to SP3, my three computers could connect by >> workgroup. >> >> After I upgraded XP-Pro from SP2 to SP3, the XP-Pro can connect to >> files on the other two PCs as before. But when XP-Home and 98SE try to >> connect to the XP-Pro they get a dialog box saying: >> >> "Enter Network Password". >> >> How can I bypass/eliminate that dialog? > >By creating matching user accounts/passwords on all three machines and >turning off "Use Simple File Sharing" on the XP Pro box. > >1. Create matching user accounts and passwords on all machines. You do not >need to be logged into the same account on all machines and the passwords >assigned to each user account can be different; the accounts/passwords just >need to exist and match on all machines. DO NOT NEGLECT TO CREATE >PASSWORDS, EVEN IF ONLY SIMPLE ONES. method but I think I misread the instructions at first. I created a user named "commonuser" having the same password on each XP PC. By unchecking "Simple File Sharing" in the XP-Pro I was able to access the XP-Pro from the XP-Home. However, it only worked if I was logged on to "commonuser" on XP-Home. It did not work from my normal user -- which still did not have a password. This suggests that each user on the XP-Home that wants to access files on the XP-Pro must have matching username/passwords on each machine. Am I correct? >If you wish a machine to boot directly I am the main user of the XP-Pro PC, so if I can boot directly to the>to the Desktop (into one particular user's account) for convenience, you >can do this: > >XP - Configure Windows to Automatically Login (MVP Ramesh) - >http://windowsxp.mvps.org/Autologon.htm > >Uncheck the option "Users must enter a user name and password to use this >computer". Select a user account to automatically log on by clicking on the >desired account to highlight it and then hit OK. Enter the correct password >for that user account (if there is one) when prompted. Leave it blank if >there is no password (null). desktop even though I will have a password. If I then log off I would use my password to log back in. Am I thinking correctly on this? I share the XP-Home PC with my wife. We both need to access at least the printer on the XP-Pro. So I can't skip the login screen of the XP-Home. Therefore we can no longer use blank (empty) passwords to log into our user areas. Is my understanding of this correct? Assuming that it is, can passwords be a single character in length? Show quoteHide quote >2. If one or more of the computers is XP Pro or Media Center, turn off >Simple File Sharing (Folder Options>View tab). > >Malke Stan Hilliard wrote:
> On Sun, 28 Jun 2009 08:04:17 -0700, Malke <malke@invalid.invalid> Comments inline:> wrote: > As a first step, I tried to get the two XP machines connected by this *Each* user account that will need to access shared resources on a machine> method but I think I misread the instructions at first. I created a > user named "commonuser" having the same password on each XP PC. By > unchecking "Simple File Sharing" in the XP-Pro I was able to access > the XP-Pro from the XP-Home. However, it only worked if I was logged > on to "commonuser" on XP-Home. It did not work from my normal user -- > which still did not have a password. This suggests that each user on > the XP-Home that wants to access files on the XP-Pro must have > matching username/passwords on each machine. Am I correct? must have a matching user account on the machine hosting the resources. Network authentication in a Workgroup (as opposed to a domain) is done on the *local* computer. Example: Computer 1 - two users, Stan with password 1234 and Mary with password 4567. Computer 2 - two users, Stan with password 1234 and Mary with password 4567. Mary will be able to access any of Computer 1's shared resources while she is logged into her Mary account on Computer 2. Stan will be able to access any of Computer 2's shared resources while he is logged into his Stan account on Computer 1. > I am the main user of the XP-Pro PC, so if I can boot directly to the You can automatically log into your Stan account (keeping to the example> desktop even though I will have a password. If I then log off I would > use my password to log back in. Am I thinking correctly on this? above) by running control userpasswords2 as detailed in the link I already gave you. If you want to log off the Stan account on that machine and log into the Mary account and then back into the Stan account, yes you would enter your password again. You still have a password; you are just automatically providing it when you initially start Windows. You can also temporarily bypass the automatic logon (for ex. if you wanted to go into Mary's account first) by holding down the Shift key while Windows is booting. > I share the XP-Home PC with my wife. We both need to access at least Networking works better with passwords. Just assign a simple one. Since> the printer on the XP-Pro. So I can't skip the login screen of the > XP-Home. Therefore we can no longer use blank (empty) passwords to log > into our user areas. Is my understanding of this correct? Assuming > that it is, can passwords be a single character in length? security isn't an issue in your case, it could be 1234, the word "password", or even your names. As long as the passwords for each account match on each computer you'll be fine. Mary with password 4567 must exist on both Computer 1 and Computer 2. Mary with password 4567 and Mary with password 7896 on the other machine will fail. Surely clicking on your user account icon on the Welcome Screen and typing something simple like "1234" isn't too onerous. Malke  
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