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Can't make Microsoft Networking work....

Author
16 Dec 2005 10:03 PM
Owen Mortensen
I have a Dell XP Pro machine connected to the D-Link DI-624 wireless router.
I use a dial-up connection to the Internet on the Dell with Internet
Connection Sharing (that all works: I can connect to the Internet through
the wireless network). I also have a Toshiba Laptop with Windows XP Pro
(belongs to a Domain at work) with the D-Link DWL-G650 wireless notebook
adapter. AND I have a Micron Windows 98 machine wired to the DI-624 (it can
connect to the Internet as well).

I used the Network Connection Wizard and setup the network on the Micron
with the floppy it created.

What I can't seem to get working is Microsoft Networking: I can't see the
laptop from either the Dell or the Micron or the Dell from the laptop or the
Micron. I can see the Micron from the Dell, though.

Ideas? Help? FAQs? Pointers? Lost Cause?

I tried changing the laptop from belonging to a Domain to belonging to a
WorkGroup, but that did not work AND I was no longer my domain identity (for
the MyDocuments, MyEtc. folders).

Diagram of setup:

                                            --------
                                            |Modem |
                                            --------
                                               |
----------           -------------         -----------
|Micron  |    wire   |DI-624     |  wire   |Dell     |
|Win98   |-----------|router     |---------|XP Pro   |
|        |           |           |         |         |
----------           -------------         -----------
                           |
                           |
                         -----
                          ---
                           -
                         wireless
                           -
                          ---
                         -----
                           |
                           |
                      --------------
                      |Toshiba     |
                      |Laptop      |
                      |XP Pro      |
                      --------------

Author
16 Dec 2005 11:36 PM
GTS
This is the result of chaining multiple routers.  You should either remove
the DI-624 and use only the wireless router, or reconfigure the wireless
router to function as a Wireless Access Point.  See
http://www.ezlan.net/router_AP.html
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"Owen Mortensen" <ojm.NO_SPAM@acm.org> wrote in message
news:uk0EbyoAGHA.1676@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
>I have a Dell XP Pro machine connected to the D-Link DI-624 wireless
>router. I use a dial-up connection to the Internet on the Dell with
>Internet Connection Sharing (that all works: I can connect to the Internet
>through the wireless network). I also have a Toshiba Laptop with Windows XP
>Pro (belongs to a Domain at work) with the D-Link DWL-G650 wireless
>notebook adapter. AND I have a Micron Windows 98 machine wired to the
>DI-624 (it can connect to the Internet as well).
>
> I used the Network Connection Wizard and setup the network on the Micron
> with the floppy it created.
>
> What I can't seem to get working is Microsoft Networking: I can't see the
> laptop from either the Dell or the Micron or the Dell from the laptop or
> the Micron. I can see the Micron from the Dell, though.
>
> Ideas? Help? FAQs? Pointers? Lost Cause?
>
> I tried changing the laptop from belonging to a Domain to belonging to a
> WorkGroup, but that did not work AND I was no longer my domain identity
> (for the MyDocuments, MyEtc. folders).
>
> Diagram of setup:
>
>                                            --------
>                                            |Modem |
>                                            --------
>                                               |
> ----------           -------------         -----------
> |Micron  |    wire   |DI-624     |  wire   |Dell     |
> |Win98   |-----------|router     |---------|XP Pro   |
> |        |           |           |         |         |
> ----------           -------------         -----------
>                           |
>                           |
>                         -----
>                          ---
>                           -
>                         wireless
>                           -
>                          ---
>                         -----
>                           |
>                           |
>                      --------------
>                      |Toshiba     |
>                      |Laptop      |
>                      |XP Pro      |
>                      --------------
>
>
Author
16 Dec 2005 11:41 PM
Owen Mortensen
The DI-624 IS the wireless router...... It is configured to be more of an
access point than a router.....




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"GTS" <x> wrote in message news:efs$MmpAGHA.436@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> This is the result of chaining multiple routers.  You should either remove
> the DI-624 and use only the wireless router, or reconfigure the wireless
> router to function as a Wireless Access Point.  See
> http://www.ezlan.net/router_AP.html
> --
>
> "Owen Mortensen" <ojm.NO_SPAM@acm.org> wrote in message
> news:uk0EbyoAGHA.1676@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
>>I have a Dell XP Pro machine connected to the D-Link DI-624 wireless
>>router. I use a dial-up connection to the Internet on the Dell with
>>Internet Connection Sharing (that all works: I can connect to the Internet
>>through the wireless network). I also have a Toshiba Laptop with Windows
>>XP Pro (belongs to a Domain at work) with the D-Link DWL-G650 wireless
>>notebook adapter. AND I have a Micron Windows 98 machine wired to the
>>DI-624 (it can connect to the Internet as well).
>>
>> I used the Network Connection Wizard and setup the network on the Micron
>> with the floppy it created.
>>
>> What I can't seem to get working is Microsoft Networking: I can't see the
>> laptop from either the Dell or the Micron or the Dell from the laptop or
>> the Micron. I can see the Micron from the Dell, though.
>>
>> Ideas? Help? FAQs? Pointers? Lost Cause?
>>
>> I tried changing the laptop from belonging to a Domain to belonging to a
>> WorkGroup, but that did not work AND I was no longer my domain identity
>> (for the MyDocuments, MyEtc. folders).
>>
>> Diagram of setup:
>>
>>                                            --------
>>                                            |Modem |
>>                                            --------
>>                                               |
>> ----------           -------------         -----------
>> |Micron  |    wire   |DI-624     |  wire   |Dell     |
>> |Win98   |-----------|router     |---------|XP Pro   |
>> |        |           |           |         |         |
>> ----------           -------------         -----------
>>                           |
>>                           |
>>                         -----
>>                          ---
>>                           -
>>                         wireless
>>                           -
>>                          ---
>>                         -----
>>                           |
>>                           |
>>                      --------------
>>                      |Toshiba     |
>>                      |Laptop      |
>>                      |XP Pro      |
>>                      --------------
>>
>>
>
>
Author
16 Dec 2005 11:47 PM
GTS
Sorry.  I misread.  Is DHCP turned off in the DI-624?
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"Owen Mortensen" <ojm.NO_SPAM@acm.org> wrote in message
news:%23OUURppAGHA.360@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> The DI-624 IS the wireless router...... It is configured to be more of an
> access point than a router.....
>
>
>
>
> "GTS" <x> wrote in message news:efs$MmpAGHA.436@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
>> This is the result of chaining multiple routers.  You should either
>> remove the DI-624 and use only the wireless router, or reconfigure the
>> wireless router to function as a Wireless Access Point.  See
>> http://www.ezlan.net/router_AP.html
>> --
>>
>> "Owen Mortensen" <ojm.NO_SPAM@acm.org> wrote in message
>> news:uk0EbyoAGHA.1676@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
>>>I have a Dell XP Pro machine connected to the D-Link DI-624 wireless
>>>router. I use a dial-up connection to the Internet on the Dell with
>>>Internet Connection Sharing (that all works: I can connect to the
>>>Internet through the wireless network). I also have a Toshiba Laptop with
>>>Windows XP Pro (belongs to a Domain at work) with the D-Link DWL-G650
>>>wireless notebook adapter. AND I have a Micron Windows 98 machine wired
>>>to the DI-624 (it can connect to the Internet as well).
>>>
>>> I used the Network Connection Wizard and setup the network on the Micron
>>> with the floppy it created.
>>>
>>> What I can't seem to get working is Microsoft Networking: I can't see
>>> the laptop from either the Dell or the Micron or the Dell from the
>>> laptop or the Micron. I can see the Micron from the Dell, though.
>>>
>>> Ideas? Help? FAQs? Pointers? Lost Cause?
>>>
>>> I tried changing the laptop from belonging to a Domain to belonging to a
>>> WorkGroup, but that did not work AND I was no longer my domain identity
>>> (for the MyDocuments, MyEtc. folders).
>>>
>>> Diagram of setup:
>>>
>>>                                            --------
>>>                                            |Modem |
>>>                                            --------
>>>                                               |
>>> ----------           -------------         -----------
>>> |Micron  |    wire   |DI-624     |  wire   |Dell     |
>>> |Win98   |-----------|router     |---------|XP Pro   |
>>> |        |           |           |         |         |
>>> ----------           -------------         -----------
>>>                           |
>>>                           |
>>>                         -----
>>>                          ---
>>>                           -
>>>                         wireless
>>>                           -
>>>                          ---
>>>                         -----
>>>                           |
>>>                           |
>>>                      --------------
>>>                      |Toshiba     |
>>>                      |Laptop      |
>>>                      |XP Pro      |
>>>                      --------------
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
Author
20 Dec 2005 2:08 PM
Owen Mortensen
Yes, DHCP is turned off.

I CAN get to the Internet, just can't see the computers in the local
workgroup....

Thanks,
Owen

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"GTS" <x> wrote in message news:ObbTSspAGHA.216@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
> Sorry.  I misread.  Is DHCP turned off in the DI-624?
> --
>
> "Owen Mortensen" <ojm.NO_SPAM@acm.org> wrote in message
> news:%23OUURppAGHA.360@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
>> The DI-624 IS the wireless router...... It is configured to be more of an
>> access point than a router.....
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "GTS" <x> wrote in message news:efs$MmpAGHA.436@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
>>> This is the result of chaining multiple routers.  You should either
>>> remove the DI-624 and use only the wireless router, or reconfigure the
>>> wireless router to function as a Wireless Access Point.  See
>>> http://www.ezlan.net/router_AP.html
>>> --
>>>
>>> "Owen Mortensen" <ojm.NO_SPAM@acm.org> wrote in message
>>> news:uk0EbyoAGHA.1676@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
>>>>I have a Dell XP Pro machine connected to the D-Link DI-624 wireless
>>>>router. I use a dial-up connection to the Internet on the Dell with
>>>>Internet Connection Sharing (that all works: I can connect to the
>>>>Internet through the wireless network). I also have a Toshiba Laptop
>>>>with Windows XP Pro (belongs to a Domain at work) with the D-Link
>>>>DWL-G650 wireless notebook adapter. AND I have a Micron Windows 98
>>>>machine wired to the DI-624 (it can connect to the Internet as well).
>>>>
>>>> I used the Network Connection Wizard and setup the network on the
>>>> Micron with the floppy it created.
>>>>
>>>> What I can't seem to get working is Microsoft Networking: I can't see
>>>> the laptop from either the Dell or the Micron or the Dell from the
>>>> laptop or the Micron. I can see the Micron from the Dell, though.
>>>>
>>>> Ideas? Help? FAQs? Pointers? Lost Cause?
>>>>
>>>> I tried changing the laptop from belonging to a Domain to belonging to
>>>> a WorkGroup, but that did not work AND I was no longer my domain
>>>> identity (for the MyDocuments, MyEtc. folders).
>>>>
>>>> Diagram of setup:
>>>>
>>>>                                            --------
>>>>                                            |Modem |
>>>>                                            --------
>>>>                                               |
>>>> ----------           -------------         -----------
>>>> |Micron  |    wire   |DI-624     |  wire   |Dell     |
>>>> |Win98   |-----------|router     |---------|XP Pro   |
>>>> |        |           |           |         |         |
>>>> ----------           -------------         -----------
>>>>                           |
>>>>                           |
>>>>                         -----
>>>>                          ---
>>>>                           -
>>>>                         wireless
>>>>                           -
>>>>                          ---
>>>>                         -----
>>>>                           |
>>>>                           |
>>>>                      --------------
>>>>                      |Toshiba     |
>>>>                      |Laptop      |
>>>>                      |XP Pro      |
>>>>                      --------------
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
Author
20 Dec 2005 2:58 PM
Malke
Owen Mortensen wrote:

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> Yes, DHCP is turned off.
>
> I CAN get to the Internet, just can't see the computers in the local
> workgroup....
>
> Thanks,
> Owen
>
> "GTS" <x> wrote in message
> news:ObbTSspAGHA.216@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
>> Sorry.  I misread.  Is DHCP turned off in the DI-624?
>> --
>>
>> "Owen Mortensen" <ojm.NO_SPAM@acm.org> wrote in message
>> news:%23OUURppAGHA.360@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
>>> The DI-624 IS the wireless router...... It is configured to be more
>>> of an access point than a router.....

Your problems are usually caused by a misconfigured firewall. Only run
one firewall at a time. "Internet Worm Protection" included in some
antivirus software like Norton 2005/06 is a firewall and counts. If you
are running third-party firewalls, be sure to disable the XPSP2 Windows
Firewall and configure the third-party firewall to allow the lan
traffic as trusted.

Here is a network troubleshooter by MVP Hans-Georg Michna. Take the time
to go through it carefully and it will usually pinpoint the problem
area(s).  http://winhlp.com/wxnet.htm

Malke
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