Wishing everyone here a very Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year!

A Special Note of Appreciation for the Very Helpful People who take care to
answer the myriad questions posed on these groups.

Regards.

Jay & Mobius

Jay wrote:
Couldn't wait a couple more days, huh?

Thanks! But don't you know it's not Politically Correct to say
Christmas. By doing so, you may offend those that don't believe in
Christmas.  Don't forget, majority doesn't rule in this country!  So
there!
Oh, A blessed Christmas to you and those you love!!!!

Mike

I appreciate people who don't automatically assume I celebrate Christmas.
That's not "politically correct" - it's called "courtesy".

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Well, actually, almost no-one *celebrates* Christmas! Even those extra no.s
that go to church that one day of the year are just doing it for the
Christmas Rush...

This reminds me of when I was a kid, having forms filled out - as
beaurocracy exerted it's grip around our infant throats - on which I was
supposed to say 'Church of England', as it was the nearest they allowed -
apparently - to 'not religeous, actually!' Courtesy would involve not
assuming that anyone who isn't, say, Jewish, *must* be something else other
than Agnostic/Atheist!

Shane


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Get used to it, dude...  sooner or later you're going to realize that not
everyone comes from your point of view.  There's probably very few things
anybody could say that would not offend somebody.

I don't celebrate Hanukkah, but if somebody who does, comes up to me and
wishes me a Happy Hanukkah, I'll take it in the spirit I believe it to be
intended, thank them appropriately, and be on my way.

If you take offense at everything people say that doesn't jive with your
philosophy, you're in for a lonely life.

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To Jay &  Mobius from alan, odee, & stevie:  From those of us who believe in
the Big Guy & his son we say DITTO!  Esp. the part about the good spirit of
those who help us so much with little reward.
     Merry Christmas!
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Show quote Hide quote And A Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year to you Both
God Bless
Chas

Ya know...whomever invented the term "political correctness"...should
be prosecuted for felonious use of grey matter in the first degree..

If you wish to say Merry Christmas to someone...say Merry
Christmas....to hell with what people think...

I don't think you will get sued over it.....sooooooooooooo..

MERRY CHRISTMAS!!!!!!!

(someone hand me my daily dose of Haldol....)

hiredgu***@gmail.com wrote:
Happy f*#king Holidaze!

"....to hell with what people think..."

That pretty much sums up your problem.

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Ted Zieglar wrote:
To hell with what YOU think!

Happy god-damned Holidays!  ;-)

Now now boys.....

Its time to be joyful and good will towards all..

And Ted?  to actually employ a term "political correctness" with
Christmas....man....

Was Jesu a republican or democrat?

hiredgu***@gmail.com wrote:
Bah!  Humbug!

A liberal.

http://politicalhumor.about.com/library/images/blbushvsjesus.htm

kurttrail wrote:

Show quoteHide quoteLOL! I love it! Thanks Kurt! And Merry Christmas to you! Yeah, that's
right, MERRY FREAKING ***CHRISTMAS***!!!

Peace Bro,
Steve N.

Steve N. wrote:
Show quoteHide quote"God bless us every one," even Carey!  ;-)  How's that for freaky?  You
have a freaky one too!

kurttrail wrote:

Show quoteHide quotePerfectly freaky!

Steve N.

BOYS!!  BOYS!!!!

yeh-zoo.....jeh-zoo....

Man, all the consternation over a "power" (notice the quotes) that may
not even exist....

Relax, go have some java....

hiredgu***@gmail.com wrote:

Sun or Microsoft? <duck and run :-)>

BOYS!!  BOYS!!!!

yeh-zoo.....jeh-zoo....

Man, all the consternation over a "power" (notice the quotes) that may
not even exist....

Relax, go have some java....

Back at ya, Jay..

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Theologians, whether Protestant or Roman Catholic, and secular
historians, do not dispute how, and why, the December 25 date was
arbitrarily chosen by the Roman church in the fourth century (i.e.
"Christmas" did not begin to be observed until hundreds of years after
Christ's birth) for no other reason than to attempt to supercede (even
though a number of the same activities from the pagan festival were
adopted into the traditional Christmas observance that is seen today,
including yule logs, mistletoe, and the Christmas tree itself) a
centuries-old Roman pagan holiday, Sol Invictus ("the invincible sun")
that was held on that date to celebrate "the return of the sun" (i.e.
longer daylight) after the passing of the Winter Solstice on December
21.

An excerpt from the highly respected Encyclopedia Britannica, 15th
Edition, provides us with independent documentation of this well-known
truth:
"The traditional customs connected with Christmas have developed from
several sources as a result of the coincidence of the celebration of
the birth of Christ with the pagan agricultural and solar observances
at mid-winter. In the Roman world, the Saturnalia, December 17, was a
time of merry-making and exchange of gifts. December 25 was also
regarded as the birth date of the Iranian mystery god Mithra, the "Sun
of Righteousness." On the Roman New Year, January 1, houses were
decorated with greenery and lights, and gifts were given to children
and the poor. To these observances were added the German and Celtic
rites when the Teutonic tribes penetrated into Gaul, Britain and
central Europe. Food and good fellowship, the Yule log and Yule cakes,
greenery and fir trees, gifts and greetings all commemorated different
aspects of this festive season. Fires and lights, symbols of warmth
and lasting life, have always been associated with the winter
festival, both pagan and Christian. Since the Middle Ages, evergreens,
as symbols of survival, have been associated with Christmas."


I'm wishiny you and your's a Merry Christmas and I don't realy care if
you have a Happy New Year or not.

Show quote Hide quote The way I understood it, it was a emperor edict to choose one particular day
to celebrate the birthday of various religious gods in the Roman Empire.
Apparently, this Roman emperor was tired of too many religious holidays and
chose December 25.  And this included the birthday of the christian's son of
god, Jesus Christ.

Have you noticed that Sol Invictus day occured after the third day of the
winter soltice? Could this be the basis of the resurrection of Jesus Christ
from the dead, that is, was Easter based from the Sol Invictus day?

As an altar boy during Vatican I, the name of Jesus Christ was always
pronounced in the Latin mass as "jeh-soo" and not "yeh-soo."  I think the
correct spelling in Latin was "Gesu" and not "Jesu."

So, Happy Sol Invictus Day to everybody!


Orinello

Orin Oríg wrote:

There was no "J" in Latin. The Latin spelling was "Iesu." The Italian
spelling is "Gesu."

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Show quote Hide quote I've never seen "Iesu" in any Latin liturgy.

Do you know that there is no "J" in Greek too?  The Greeks pronounce
"Dianna" as "Janna."  And if the Greeks has "Jesus,"  then do you think the
Greeks would have spelled it as "Die Zeus?"

Orinello

Orin Oríg wrote:

Show quoteHide quoteIn Greek it's Iesous (pronounced "ee-ay-soos").

Steve N.

Show quote Hide quote It is very interesting, I did not know that 'till now.

And I just found out that MVP means Melinda's Venerable Priests.


Orinello

I reviewed my Latin last night and found out that there is "J" in Latin.

". . . judicare vivos et mortuum, cujus regni non erit finis . . ."

And because it is Christmas Eve, do you know that the most solemn part of
the Catholic mass during Vatican I , was found in "Credo" and not in
"Sanctus."

" . . . et incarnatus est de spiritu sancto, ex Maria virgini et home factus
est . . ."

" . . . and he was incarnated by the holy spirit, through a virgin named
Mary, and was made man . .

Merry Christmas to every one!


Orinello





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Orin Oríg wrote:

Show quoteHide quoteI know nothing about liturgical Latin. The classical Latin spelling is
"Iesu," just as the classical Latin spelling of "Julius Caesar" is "Iulius
Caesar."


The Greek spelling (in English characters) is "Iesous."

For both the Greek and Latin spelling, see, for example,
http://www.pfrs.org/jewish/hr09.html

However, this is dramatically off-topic in these Windows newsgroups, and so
this will be my last contribution to the thread.

Orin Oríg wrote:
Show quoteHide quoteLet's not forget Diwali, the Festival of Lights in India:

http://www.gsia.cmu.edu/afs/andrew/gsia/rb/issues/1999/oct29/diwali.html

Steve N.

Jay wrote:

Merry Christmas to you and yours too, Jay! And very Happy Holidays to
all those that do not celeibrate Christmas!

God bless us, every one.

Steve N.

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