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Configuration problemHave a 2 'puter home network encompassing a win 98SE and a Win Me connected
via a hub for a few years. Each computer has its own name and operates through a common workgroup. Protocols are TCP/IP and IPX/SPX for File and Print Sharing. Have just purchased a new Win XP and have tried for the last 3 hours to connect to the home network but to no avail. I have deactivated the Windows Firewall but am using the Norton firewall. The XP connects to the Internet OK but I can't get it to see the home network nor will the other 'puters see it. It's most likely a configuration problem but I can't seem to figure it out because XP is so different from the Win 9x types. Anything obvious ? In article <UYHqf.11235$ph.8***@read2.cgocable.net>, "Dapper Dan"
<dapper***@home.com> wrote: >Have a 2 'puter home network encompassing a win 98SE and a Win Me connected The Norton firewall could be causing problems.>via a hub for a few years. Each computer has its own name and operates >through a common workgroup. Protocols are TCP/IP and IPX/SPX for File and >Print Sharing. > >Have just purchased a new Win XP and have tried for the last 3 hours to >connect to the home network but to no avail. I have deactivated the Windows >Firewall but am using the Norton firewall. The XP connects to the Internet >OK but I can't get it to see the home network nor will the other 'puters see >it. It's most likely a configuration problem but I can't seem to figure it >out because XP is so different from the Win 9x types. > >Anything obvious ? I've written a web page that should help: Adding Windows XP to an Existing Network http://www.practicallynetworked.com/sharing/xp/addxp.htm -- Best Wishes, Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking) Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups. Microsoft Most Valuable Professional Program http://mvp.support.microsoft.com Thanks for the reply Steve. As a matter of fact, I had read your article
before posting. In any event, I reread it again and there is obviously something that I'm not grasping. I'm convinced that my problem is related to configuration but I can't seem to correct it because I see no place to amend existing settings. For example in the Win 98 & Me setup, TCP/IP properties allow me to uncheck File & Printer sharing but I can't find that setting in XP. Similarly in the same protocol in 98 & Me, there are setting to disable DNS and NO for allowing binding to ATM but not in XP. For the IPX/SPX protocol in 98 & Me, BINDINGS tab a checkmark is in both Client for Microsoft Networks and File and Printer sharing but can't find one in the XP setup. I'm not sure if having tried so many times to setup the network on the XP machine (at least a dozen via the Wizard) is causing any damage because when I click on VIEW WORKGROUP COMPUTERS, it takes at least 60 seconds to come up with only this one, whereas on either of the other two computers, it's instantaneous. One last thing, when I originally set this little network up a few years back, it was suggested that IPX/SPX was needed because it was more secure that TCP/IP when sharing files and printer. If that's no longer the case, I can changes it on the other two computers and maybe these computers will all see each other. I appreciate your help. Dan Show quoteHide quote "Steve Winograd [MVP]" <bcma***@mvps.org> wrote in message news:b2anq195809st69fvn1mcu2mdntpc05duv@4ax.com... > In article <UYHqf.11235$ph.8***@read2.cgocable.net>, "Dapper Dan" > <dapper***@home.com> wrote: >>Have a 2 'puter home network encompassing a win 98SE and a Win Me >>connected >>via a hub for a few years. Each computer has its own name and operates >>through a common workgroup. Protocols are TCP/IP and IPX/SPX for File and >>Print Sharing. >> >>Have just purchased a new Win XP and have tried for the last 3 hours to >>connect to the home network but to no avail. I have deactivated the >>Windows >>Firewall but am using the Norton firewall. The XP connects to the Internet >>OK but I can't get it to see the home network nor will the other 'puters >>see >>it. It's most likely a configuration problem but I can't seem to figure it >>out because XP is so different from the Win 9x types. >> >>Anything obvious ? > > The Norton firewall could be causing problems. > > I've written a web page that should help: > > Adding Windows XP to an Existing Network > http://www.practicallynetworked.com/sharing/xp/addxp.htm > -- > Best Wishes, > Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking) > > Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group > for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions > addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups. > > Microsoft Most Valuable Professional Program > http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
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"Dapper Dan" <dapper***@home.com> wrote: Your simplest and most effective solution might be to purchase a home>Have a 2 'puter home network encompassing a win 98SE and a Win Me connected >via a hub for a few years. Each computer has its own name and operates >through a common workgroup. Protocols are TCP/IP and IPX/SPX for File and >Print Sharing. > >Have just purchased a new Win XP and have tried for the last 3 hours to >connect to the home network but to no avail. I have deactivated the Windows >Firewall but am using the Norton firewall. The XP connects to the Internet >OK but I can't get it to see the home network nor will the other 'puters see >it. It's most likely a configuration problem but I can't seem to figure it >out because XP is so different from the Win 9x types. > >Anything obvious ? > router and use that instead of the hub for your networking. Then you can use the DHCP server in the router to assign i.p. addresses to all of the machines and they should all be able to see each other. Also the NAT protection in the router will provide better protection against intruders than a software firewall (although it will not stop outgoing "phone home" activity). Good luck Ron Martell Duncan B.C. Canada I've seen Norton Internet Security cause issues with networking. Try
disabling it *temporarily* and see if this has any effect. If so, take a look at the docs that come with the product to see how to get it to allow LAN access. -- Show quoteHide quoteRegards, Jerry M. Gartner "Dapper Dan" <dapper***@home.com> wrote in message news:UYHqf.11235$ph.8461@read2.cgocable.net... > Have a 2 'puter home network encompassing a win 98SE and a Win Me > connected via a hub for a few years. Each computer has its own name and > operates through a common workgroup. Protocols are TCP/IP and IPX/SPX for > File and Print Sharing. > > Have just purchased a new Win XP and have tried for the last 3 hours to > connect to the home network but to no avail. I have deactivated the > Windows Firewall but am using the Norton firewall. The XP connects to the > Internet OK but I can't get it to see the home network nor will the other > 'puters see it. It's most likely a configuration problem but I can't seem > to figure it out because XP is so different from the Win 9x types. > > Anything obvious ? > Thanks Ron, I'm not sure why I would have to go and buy a router to use
instead of the hub, but if all else fails, and it's looking like this is becoming an impossible task,then I guess I'll do so. Thank you too for your feedback Jerry. I tried turning off the firewall and it didn't solve the problem (Both are in fact turned off). I then tried for the umpteenth time to install a home network but to no avail. I also removed IPX/SPX protocols and started from scratch yet again. Again the two older computers see each other but not the new machine. On the new machine, when I click on VIEW WORKGROUP COMPUTERS, I get the following message; "MSHOME (workgroup name on all computers) is not accessible. You might not have permission to use this network resource. Contact the Administrator of this server to find out if you have access permissions. The list of servers for this work group is not currently available" There are no other users on this machine. It's straight out of the box and it appears that I can make system changes so I think I have administrator permissions. Does any of the above provide an obvious clue? Thanks Dan Show quoteHide quote "Jerry M. Gartner" <u***@variable.tld> wrote in message news:eKxASQBCGHA.1008@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl... > I've seen Norton Internet Security cause issues with networking. Try > disabling it *temporarily* and see if this has any effect. If so, take a > look at the docs that come with the product to see how to get it to allow > LAN access. > > -- > > Regards, > > Jerry M. Gartner > "Dapper Dan" <dapper***@home.com> wrote in message > news:UYHqf.11235$ph.8461@read2.cgocable.net... >> Have a 2 'puter home network encompassing a win 98SE and a Win Me >> connected via a hub for a few years. Each computer has its own name and >> operates through a common workgroup. Protocols are TCP/IP and IPX/SPX for >> File and Print Sharing. >> >> Have just purchased a new Win XP and have tried for the last 3 hours to >> connect to the home network but to no avail. I have deactivated the >> Windows Firewall but am using the Norton firewall. The XP connects to the >> Internet OK but I can't get it to see the home network nor will the other >> 'puters see it. It's most likely a configuration problem but I can't seem >> to figure it out because XP is so different from the Win 9x types. >> >> Anything obvious ? >> > > As an update, have finally succeeded in connecting to the home network. The
problem appears to have been associated to two issues, Norton even though it was deactivated and NetBIOS over TCP/IP. So now all computers see each other. Have two issues: 1). The computer has slowed to a crawl (like about +3 minutes to reboot and even when rebooted, opening applications are really really slow) 2). In trying to configure printing from a client machine, I cannot capture the proper port on the new XP machine. All options relate to LPT (1 through 10), but the printer is actually connected via USB. Thus when I send a print job from client computer, it does appear to print (in cyber space?) but a message appears advising me that printer is offline. Any of this make sense? Show quoteHide quote "Dapper Dan" <dapper***@home.com> wrote in message news:_Jcrf.11514$ph.7213@read2.cgocable.net... > Thanks Ron, I'm not sure why I would have to go and buy a router to use > instead of the hub, but if all else fails, and it's looking like this is > becoming an impossible task,then I guess I'll do so. > Thank you too for your feedback Jerry. I tried turning off the firewall > and it didn't solve the problem (Both are in fact turned off). I then > tried for the umpteenth time to install a home network but to no avail. I > also removed IPX/SPX protocols and started from scratch yet again. Again > the two older computers see each other but not the new machine. On the new > machine, when I click on VIEW WORKGROUP COMPUTERS, I get the following > message; > "MSHOME (workgroup name on all computers) is not accessible. You might not > have permission to use this network resource. Contact the Administrator of > this server to find out if you have access permissions. The list of > servers for this work group is not currently available" > > There are no other users on this machine. It's straight out of the box and > it appears that I can make system changes so I think I have administrator > permissions. > > Does any of the above provide an obvious clue? > > Thanks > Dan > > "Jerry M. Gartner" <u***@variable.tld> wrote in message > news:eKxASQBCGHA.1008@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl... >> I've seen Norton Internet Security cause issues with networking. Try >> disabling it *temporarily* and see if this has any effect. If so, take a >> look at the docs that come with the product to see how to get it to allow >> LAN access. >> >> -- >> >> Regards, >> >> Jerry M. Gartner >> "Dapper Dan" <dapper***@home.com> wrote in message >> news:UYHqf.11235$ph.8461@read2.cgocable.net... >>> Have a 2 'puter home network encompassing a win 98SE and a Win Me >>> connected via a hub for a few years. Each computer has its own name and >>> operates through a common workgroup. Protocols are TCP/IP and IPX/SPX >>> for File and Print Sharing. >>> >>> Have just purchased a new Win XP and have tried for the last 3 hours to >>> connect to the home network but to no avail. I have deactivated the >>> Windows Firewall but am using the Norton firewall. The XP connects to >>> the Internet OK but I can't get it to see the home network nor will the >>> other 'puters see it. It's most likely a configuration problem but I >>> can't seem to figure it out because XP is so different from the Win 9x >>> types. >>> >>> Anything obvious ? >>> >> >> > > Dan:
If the printer is networked on another machine, you can typically brows to the machine that the printer is attached to and then connect to it via the left click context menu. -- Show quoteHide quoteRegards, Jerry M. Gartner "Dapper Dan" <dapper***@home.com> wrote in message news:olYrf.19066$eo.15310@read1.cgocable.net... > As an update, have finally succeeded in connecting to the home network. > The > problem appears to have been associated to two issues, Norton even though > it was > deactivated and NetBIOS over TCP/IP. So now all computers see each other. > Have two issues: 1). The computer has slowed to a crawl (like about +3 > minutes to reboot and even when rebooted, opening applications are really > really slow) > 2). In trying to configure printing from a client machine, I cannot > capture the proper port on the new XP machine. All options relate to LPT > (1 through 10), but the printer is actually connected via USB. Thus when I > send a print job from client computer, it does appear to print (in cyber > space?) but a message appears advising me that printer is offline. > > Any of this make sense? > "Dapper Dan" <dapper***@home.com> wrote in message > news:_Jcrf.11514$ph.7213@read2.cgocable.net... >> Thanks Ron, I'm not sure why I would have to go and buy a router to use >> instead of the hub, but if all else fails, and it's looking like this is >> becoming an impossible task,then I guess I'll do so. >> Thank you too for your feedback Jerry. I tried turning off the firewall >> and it didn't solve the problem (Both are in fact turned off). I then >> tried for the umpteenth time to install a home network but to no avail. I >> also removed IPX/SPX protocols and started from scratch yet again. Again >> the two older computers see each other but not the new machine. On the >> new >> machine, when I click on VIEW WORKGROUP COMPUTERS, I get the following >> message; >> "MSHOME (workgroup name on all computers) is not accessible. You might >> not >> have permission to use this network resource. Contact the Administrator >> of >> this server to find out if you have access permissions. The list of >> servers for this work group is not currently available" >> >> There are no other users on this machine. It's straight out of the box >> and >> it appears that I can make system changes so I think I have administrator >> permissions. >> >> Does any of the above provide an obvious clue? >> >> Thanks >> Dan >> >> "Jerry M. Gartner" <u***@variable.tld> wrote in message >> news:eKxASQBCGHA.1008@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl... >>> I've seen Norton Internet Security cause issues with networking. Try >>> disabling it *temporarily* and see if this has any effect. If so, take >>> a >>> look at the docs that come with the product to see how to get it to >>> allow >>> LAN access. >>> >>> -- >>> >>> Regards, >>> >>> Jerry M. Gartner >>> "Dapper Dan" <dapper***@home.com> wrote in message >>> news:UYHqf.11235$ph.8461@read2.cgocable.net... >>>> Have a 2 'puter home network encompassing a win 98SE and a Win Me >>>> connected via a hub for a few years. Each computer has its own name and >>>> operates through a common workgroup. Protocols are TCP/IP and IPX/SPX >>>> for File and Print Sharing. >>>> >>>> Have just purchased a new Win XP and have tried for the last 3 hours to >>>> connect to the home network but to no avail. I have deactivated the >>>> Windows Firewall but am using the Norton firewall. The XP connects to >>>> the Internet OK but I can't get it to see the home network nor will the >>>> other 'puters see it. It's most likely a configuration problem but I >>>> can't seem to figure it out because XP is so different from the Win 9x >>>> types. >>>> >>>> Anything obvious ? >>>> >>> >>> >> >> > > > Thanks Jerry, that's how I did it under the old system, but for some reason
I can't seem to do it on this one. The problem may be that the printer was setup on a system that I am replacing. I uninstalled the printer on that machine and reinstalled it on my new XP. It works fine on the XP but on a networked Me laptop (which sees the computer with the printer), the laptop accepts the print job but it never gets to the printer. So I tried directing the printer settings to the right path via browse but can only seem to have the LPT ports 1 through 10 and not the USB connection. Show quoteHide quote "Jerry M. Gartner" <u***@variable.tld> wrote in message news:OTR%23jTpCGHA.2320@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl... > Dan: > > If the printer is networked on another machine, you can typically brows > to the machine that the printer is attached to and then connect to it via > the left click context menu. > > -- > > Regards, > > Jerry M. Gartner > > "Dapper Dan" <dapper***@home.com> wrote in message > news:olYrf.19066$eo.15310@read1.cgocable.net... >> As an update, have finally succeeded in connecting to the home network. >> The >> problem appears to have been associated to two issues, Norton even though >> it was >> deactivated and NetBIOS over TCP/IP. So now all computers see each other. >> Have two issues: 1). The computer has slowed to a crawl (like about +3 >> minutes to reboot and even when rebooted, opening applications are really >> really slow) >> 2). In trying to configure printing from a client machine, I cannot >> capture the proper port on the new XP machine. All options relate to LPT >> (1 through 10), but the printer is actually connected via USB. Thus when >> I send a print job from client computer, it does appear to print (in >> cyber space?) but a message appears advising me that printer is offline. >> >> Any of this make sense? >> "Dapper Dan" <dapper***@home.com> wrote in message >> news:_Jcrf.11514$ph.7213@read2.cgocable.net... >>> Thanks Ron, I'm not sure why I would have to go and buy a router to use >>> instead of the hub, but if all else fails, and it's looking like this is >>> becoming an impossible task,then I guess I'll do so. >>> Thank you too for your feedback Jerry. I tried turning off the firewall >>> and it didn't solve the problem (Both are in fact turned off). I then >>> tried for the umpteenth time to install a home network but to no avail. >>> I >>> also removed IPX/SPX protocols and started from scratch yet again. Again >>> the two older computers see each other but not the new machine. On the >>> new >>> machine, when I click on VIEW WORKGROUP COMPUTERS, I get the following >>> message; >>> "MSHOME (workgroup name on all computers) is not accessible. You might >>> not >>> have permission to use this network resource. Contact the Administrator >>> of >>> this server to find out if you have access permissions. The list of >>> servers for this work group is not currently available" >>> >>> There are no other users on this machine. It's straight out of the box >>> and >>> it appears that I can make system changes so I think I have >>> administrator >>> permissions. >>> >>> Does any of the above provide an obvious clue? >>> >>> Thanks >>> Dan >>> >>> "Jerry M. Gartner" <u***@variable.tld> wrote in message >>> news:eKxASQBCGHA.1008@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl... >>>> I've seen Norton Internet Security cause issues with networking. Try >>>> disabling it *temporarily* and see if this has any effect. If so, take >>>> a >>>> look at the docs that come with the product to see how to get it to >>>> allow >>>> LAN access. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> >>>> Regards, >>>> >>>> Jerry M. Gartner >>>> "Dapper Dan" <dapper***@home.com> wrote in message >>>> news:UYHqf.11235$ph.8461@read2.cgocable.net... >>>>> Have a 2 'puter home network encompassing a win 98SE and a Win Me >>>>> connected via a hub for a few years. Each computer has its own name >>>>> and >>>>> operates through a common workgroup. Protocols are TCP/IP and IPX/SPX >>>>> for File and Print Sharing. >>>>> >>>>> Have just purchased a new Win XP and have tried for the last 3 hours >>>>> to >>>>> connect to the home network but to no avail. I have deactivated the >>>>> Windows Firewall but am using the Norton firewall. The XP connects to >>>>> the Internet OK but I can't get it to see the home network nor will >>>>> the >>>>> other 'puters see it. It's most likely a configuration problem but I >>>>> can't seem to figure it out because XP is so different from the Win 9x >>>>> types. >>>>> >>>>> Anything obvious ? >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> >> >> > > 
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