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i have a 2 wireless computers and one that is wired to the wireless/wire router. i want to network all three. all three have internet, but i want to share files and printers. what is the protocol. all are using XP two have Norton Internet security and one has mcaffee... your help is greatly apprciated. Hi
May be this can Help. Set Sharing http://www.ezlan.net/Installing#XP-Sharing In case of trouble, http://www.ezlan.net/sharing.html Jack (MVP-Networking). Show quoteHide quote "Meg" <meg(remove***@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:ekfqOd8mGHA.3884@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... > Help... > > i have a 2 wireless computers and one that is wired to the wireless/wire > router. > > i want to network all three. > > all three have internet, but i want to share files and printers. > > what is the protocol. > > all are using XP > two have Norton Internet security and one has mcaffee... > > your help is greatly apprciated. > > > >
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> Help... > > i have a 2 wireless computers and one that is wired to the wireless/wire > router. > > i want to network all three. > > all three have internet, but i want to share files and printers. > > what is the protocol. > > all are using XP > two have Norton Internet security and one has mcaffee... > > your help is greatly apprciated. > > > > > isn't there some easy way to get the info on this
or who can I call (and pay, if necessary) to walk me thru it. -- Show quoteHide quoteMeg Darnell, LMT, CD Director of Alumni Services Swedish Institute College of Health Sciences 212-924-5900 x142 "Meg" <meg(remove***@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:ekfqOd8mGHA.3884@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... > Help... > > i have a 2 wireless computers and one that is wired to the wireless/wire > router. > > i want to network all three. > > all three have internet, but i want to share files and printers. > > what is the protocol. > > all are using XP > two have Norton Internet security and one has mcaffee... > > your help is greatly apprciated. > > > > Meg wrote:
> isn't there some easy way to get the info on this The info on Jack's site is pretty good. Or, consider the following, > or who can I call (and pay, if necessary) to walk me thru it. > > which is shamelessly cut & pasted from one of MS-MVP Malke's posts: Show quoteHide quote > The fact that the laptop connects wirelessly is irrelevant. You need to have XP Home or XP Pro or XP Media Center; if you have XP Home on all> set up your local area network (lan). Here is the basic information and > some links: > > Run the Network Setup Wizard on both computers, making sure to enable > File & Printer Sharing, and reboot. The only "gotcha" is that this will > turn on the XPSP2 Windows Firewall. If you aren't running a third-party > firewall or have an antivirus with "Internet Worm Protection" (like > Norton 2005/06) which acts as a firewall, then you're fine. If you have > third-party firewall software, configure it to allow the Local Area > Network traffic as trusted. I usually do this with my firewalls with an > IP range. Ex. would be 192.168.1.0-192.168.1.254. Obviously you would > substitute your correct subnet. > > Then create shares as desired. [what you do next depends on whether you computers, just ignore part (a)]: Show quoteHide quote > Or, go around the corner to Barnes & Noble (227 W 27th St) and buy > a. If you need Pro's ability to set fine-grained permissions, turn off > Simple File Sharing (Folder Options>View tab) and create identical user > accounts/passwords on all computers. > > b. If you don't care about using Pro's advanced features, leave the > Simple File Sharing enabled. > > Simple File Sharing means that Guest (network) is enabled. This means > that anyone without a user account on the target system can use its > resources. This is a security hole but only you can decide if it > matters in your situation. Just make sure that the Simple File Sharing > setting is identical on both machines. > > http://www.practicallynetworked.com/sharing/xp_filesharing/index.htm > (Pro) > http://www.bcmaven.com/networking/faq.htm > http://www.bcmaven.com/networking/myths.htm > http://www.tomsnetworking.com > http://www.wown.info/ > http://www.ezlan.net/index.html > http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/ Wireless Home Networking For Dummies, $15.83 if you are a member of B&N's "reader's advantage" $17.59 otherwise. Or perhaps Networking for Dummies, Seventh Edition, $17.99/$19.99 [disclaimer: I haven't read either one]. http://tinyurl.com/ncx5h lists over 40 "computer service and repair" outfits within a half mile of you (out of a total of 2589). I can't personally vouch for any of them, but if the reading material seems too complex, try calling a few. In general, however, if you learn how to set things up yourself, you'll be better able to deal with any issues that may arise later. thank you for all of that info. I have done what you have said and sometimes
it sees the computers and sometimes it doesn't. My simple question is which wizard do I use, the set up a home /office network or set up a wireless network? that's the first question. the 2nd question is that I seem to have done it a few times and can see a few of these "named" networks on one system. How can I delete or remove them and start fresh. This is a mystery to me. I don't know what a subnet is and wouldn't know what mine is. these are my problems.. -- Show quoteHide quoteMeg Darnell, LMT, CD Director of Alumni Services Swedish Institute College of Health Sciences 212-924-5900 x142 "Lem" <lem***@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:OoCh57FpGHA.3324@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... > Meg wrote: >> isn't there some easy way to get the info on this >> or who can I call (and pay, if necessary) to walk me thru it. >> >> > The info on Jack's site is pretty good. Or, consider the following, which > is shamelessly cut & pasted from one of MS-MVP Malke's posts: > >> The fact that the laptop connects wirelessly is irrelevant. You need to >> set up your local area network (lan). Here is the basic information and >> some links: >> >> Run the Network Setup Wizard on both computers, making sure to enable >> File & Printer Sharing, and reboot. The only "gotcha" is that this will >> turn on the XPSP2 Windows Firewall. If you aren't running a third-party >> firewall or have an antivirus with "Internet Worm Protection" (like >> Norton 2005/06) which acts as a firewall, then you're fine. If you have >> third-party firewall software, configure it to allow the Local Area >> Network traffic as trusted. I usually do this with my firewalls with an >> IP range. Ex. would be 192.168.1.0-192.168.1.254. Obviously you would >> substitute your correct subnet. >> >> Then create shares as desired. [what you do next depends on whether you > have XP Home or XP Pro or XP Media Center; if you have XP Home on all > computers, just ignore part (a)]: >> >> a. If you need Pro's ability to set fine-grained permissions, turn off >> Simple File Sharing (Folder Options>View tab) and create identical user >> accounts/passwords on all computers. >> >> b. If you don't care about using Pro's advanced features, leave the >> Simple File Sharing enabled. >> >> Simple File Sharing means that Guest (network) is enabled. This means >> that anyone without a user account on the target system can use its >> resources. This is a security hole but only you can decide if it >> matters in your situation. Just make sure that the Simple File Sharing >> setting is identical on both machines. >> >> http://www.practicallynetworked.com/sharing/xp_filesharing/index.htm >> (Pro) >> http://www.bcmaven.com/networking/faq.htm >> http://www.bcmaven.com/networking/myths.htm >> http://www.tomsnetworking.com >> http://www.wown.info/ >> http://www.ezlan.net/index.html >> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/ > > Or, go around the corner to Barnes & Noble (227 W 27th St) and buy > Wireless Home Networking For Dummies, $15.83 if you are a member of B&N's > "reader's advantage" $17.59 otherwise. Or perhaps Networking for Dummies, > Seventh Edition, $17.99/$19.99 [disclaimer: I haven't read either one]. > > http://tinyurl.com/ncx5h lists over 40 "computer service and repair" > outfits within a half mile of you (out of a total of 2589). I can't > personally vouch for any of them, but if the reading material seems too > complex, try calling a few. In general, however, if you learn how to set > things up yourself, you'll be better able to deal with any issues that may > arise later. Meg wrote:
> thank you for all of that info. I have done what you have said and sometimes If you "have internet" from your wireless laptops, you have already > it sees the computers and sometimes it doesn't. My simple question is which > wizard do I use, the set up a home /office network or set up a wireless > network? that's the first question. > the 2nd question is that I seem to have done it a few times and can see a > few of these "named" networks on one system. How can I delete or remove them > and start fresh. This is a mystery to me. I don't know what a subnet is and > wouldn't know what mine is. > these are my problems.. > > setup your wireless network, and what you need to do is "set up a home /office network." If, when you say that you "can see a few of these "named" networks on one system" you mean that when you check for available wireless networks you see a bunch, that's because there are other people's wireless networks within range. It's like your AM or FM radio -- here in NYC, the radio spectrum is pretty crowded, and it's no different for wireless networks. That's why it's very important to secure your wireless network so that no one else can get access to it -- either to use your Internet service or worse, to get access to your files and data. Briefly, every computer on a network -- wired or wireless -- has to have an "address" so that other computers can find it and communicate with it. These are called "Internet Protocol" or IP addresses. See, e.g., http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ip_address IP addresses conforming to the standard currently most common are typically written as four groups of three decimal digits separated by periods, for example: 207.142.131.248. Your router assigns IP addresses to all of the computers on your "local area network" or LAN. There are a few ranges of IP addresses reserved for this purpose, e.g., 192.168.0.0 to 192.168.255.255. A subnet is a subset of those addresses. You really don't need to know more detail if you just use the networking wizards. If you're curious, either Google the term or buy one of the books I suggested. thanks.
When I say I can see a few of the networks, I don't mean the wireless networks, I understand that stuff. I mean that I have run the Microsoft office/home network and I guess I have done it a few times and so there are named networks. does the IP address remain the same or does it change each time I connect or reboot? -- Show quoteHide quoteMeg Darnell, LMT, CD Director of Alumni Services Swedish Institute College of Health Sciences 212-924-5900 x142 "Lem" <lem***@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:OIU8j8PpGHA.2360@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... > Meg wrote: >> thank you for all of that info. I have done what you have said and >> sometimes it sees the computers and sometimes it doesn't. My simple >> question is which wizard do I use, the set up a home /office network or >> set up a wireless network? that's the first question. >> the 2nd question is that I seem to have done it a few times and can see a >> few of these "named" networks on one system. How can I delete or remove >> them and start fresh. This is a mystery to me. I don't know what a >> subnet is and wouldn't know what mine is. >> these are my problems.. >> >> > If you "have internet" from your wireless laptops, you have already setup > your wireless network, and what you need to do is "set up a home /office > network." > > If, when you say that you "can see a few of these "named" networks on one > system" you mean that when you check for available wireless networks you > see a bunch, that's because there are other people's wireless networks > within range. It's like your AM or FM radio -- here in NYC, the radio > spectrum is pretty crowded, and it's no different for wireless networks. > That's why it's very important to secure your wireless network so that no > one else can get access to it -- either to use your Internet service or > worse, to get access to your files and data. > > Briefly, every computer on a network -- wired or wireless -- has to have > an "address" so that other computers can find it and communicate with it. > These are called "Internet Protocol" or IP addresses. See, e.g., > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ip_address IP addresses conforming to the > standard currently most common are typically written as four groups of > three decimal digits separated by periods, for example: 207.142.131.248. > Your router assigns IP addresses to all of the computers on your "local > area network" or LAN. There are a few ranges of IP addresses reserved for > this purpose, e.g., 192.168.0.0 to 192.168.255.255. A subnet is a subset > of those addresses. You really don't need to know more detail if you just > use the networking wizards. If you're curious, either Google the term or > buy one of the books I suggested. Meg wrote:
> thanks. I don't use the wizard myself, so I'm not sure what "named networks" you > When I say I can see a few of the networks, I don't mean the wireless > networks, I understand that stuff. I mean that I have run the Microsoft > office/home network and I guess I have done it a few times and so there are > named networks. > > does the IP address remain the same or does it change each time I connect or > reboot? > mean. Perhaps this is what you're talking about: http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.public.windows.networking.wireless/browse_thread/thread/d2ebaf6d642b8e20/3233c8edf216a8e3?lnk=st&q=&rnum=2&hl=en#3233c8edf216a8e3 (same link: http://tinyurl.com/jzegz) As far as the IP address is concerned, it depends. Typically, most home /small office users set up a network using a router, either wired or wireless. These routers generally have a "DHCP server" that automatically assigns IP addresses to each computer that connects to the router. The router can tell which physical computer is which (using what's called the MAC address), and tends to hand out the same IP address to the same computer each time the computer connects to the router. This isn't guaranteed, however, especially if there are more computers that may connect than available IP addresses to hand out. Alternatively, you can disable the DHCP server on the router and manually set the IP address for each computer. If you do this, the IP address will stay the same until you change it -- including through power-off. Basically, if you are going to do it that way, you need to set up a proper
network and workgroup name (assuming XP Home) on all machines, share access (eg, share C drive or whatever folder) and away you go. The difficulty for some of this comes when you don't have the same logon name in use on every machine with same password. If you want to set it up fast and easily, having the same username and password on each machine helps enormously. You didn't mention if you had a mixture of XP Pro and XP Home. Doing the networking wizard routine is actually the easiest way to go if you are unsure what to do. Hope that helps. Show quoteHide quote "Meg" <alumni(removeth***@swedishinstitute.edu> wrote in message news:%235XoceFpGHA.3564@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... > isn't there some easy way to get the info on this > or who can I call (and pay, if necessary) to walk me thru it. > > > -- > Meg Darnell, LMT, CD > Director of Alumni Services > Swedish Institute College of Health Sciences > 212-924-5900 x142 > > > "Meg" <meg(remove***@yahoo.com> wrote in message > news:ekfqOd8mGHA.3884@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >> Help... >> >> i have a 2 wireless computers and one that is wired to the wireless/wire >> router. >> >> i want to network all three. >> >> all three have internet, but i want to share files and printers. >> >> what is the protocol. >> >> all are using XP >> two have Norton Internet security and one has mcaffee... >> >> your help is greatly apprciated. >> >> >> >> > > 
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