"Lem" wrote:

> gryffe wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > I am trying to coonevt to the internet on a 2nd PC using a Belkin 54g
> > Wireless Network Adaptor. I have set up home network but the connection via
> > the Belkin fails with "this connection has limited or no connectivity" The
> > explanation is "the network did not assign a network address to the computer"
> > Any ideas/suggestions gratefully received.
> > Thanks in advance
>
> Not enough info.
>
> What version of Windows/what service pack?
> What model router? what model adaptor?
> Have you ever been able to use this network?  If so, what's different now?
> Are there any other PCs connected to the router?  Wired or wireless?  Do
> they connect OK?  To Internet?  To each other?
> How do you connect to the Internet?
> Please describe your "network topology"  -- for example, DSL connected
> to DSL modem; modem connected to WAN port of Linksys WRT54G router; PC 1
> connected via cable to LAN port 1 of router; PC 2 connected wirelessly
> to router.
> Are you using Belkin software or Windows to manage the wireless
> connection on PC2?
> Can you see the name of your network on the "2nd PC"?  Are you sure it's
> yours?  Did you change the default SSID on your router?
> Are you using encryption?  Did you try to connect without using
> encryption?  What happened?
>

> Thanks for reply Lem, hopefully the replies below will help.
>
> What version of Windows/what service pack?  -    XP , SP2
>
> What model router?   - BT Voyager 2091
>
> what model adaptor?    - BT Voyager
>
> Have you ever been able to use this network?     -  I used to be able to use
> this network, I got a new PC which is now the main PC, the PC  I am now using
> as the 2nd PC used to be the main PC.
>
>  If so, what's different now?    (see above)
>
> Are there any other PCs connected to the router? Wired or wireless? Do they
> connect OK? To Internet? To each other?     -
>  I also have a laptop which is wireless, connects to the main PC , they both
> connect OK, and to the internet
>
>  How do you connect to the Internet?   Via the BT router (see above)
>
> Please describe your "network topology" -- .  for example, DSL connected to
> DSL modem; modem connected to WAN port of Linksys WRT54G router; PC 1
> connected via cable to LAN port 1 of router; PC 2 connected wirelessly to
> router. Are you using Belkin software or Windows to manage the wireless
> connection on PC2? -
>
>    Main PC is DSL connected to router, 2nd PC is the one with the problem,
> 3rd PC is a laptop which connects wirelessly. I think I am using Windows
> software to manage the wireless connection(do you mean Windows zero
> configuration). The questions you ask below I am not sure about
>
>   Can you see the name of your network on the "2nd PC"? Are you sure it's
> yours? Did you change the default SSID on your router? Are you using
> encryption? Did you try to connect without using encryption? What happened?
>
>
> "Lem" wrote:
>
>
>>gryffe wrote:
>>
>>>Hi,
>>>
>>>I am trying to coonevt to the internet on a 2nd PC using a Belkin 54g
>>>Wireless Network Adaptor. I have set up home network but the connection via
>>>the Belkin fails with "this connection has limited or no connectivity" The
>>>explanation is "the network did not assign a network address to the computer"
>>>Any ideas/suggestions gratefully received.
>>>Thanks in advance
>>
>>Not enough info.
>>
>>What version of Windows/what service pack?
>>What model router? what model adaptor?
>>Have you ever been able to use this network?  If so, what's different now?
>>Are there any other PCs connected to the router?  Wired or wireless?  Do
>>they connect OK?  To Internet?  To each other?
>>How do you connect to the Internet?
>>Please describe your "network topology"  -- for example, DSL connected
>>to DSL modem; modem connected to WAN port of Linksys WRT54G router; PC 1
>>connected via cable to LAN port 1 of router; PC 2 connected wirelessly
>>to router.
>>Are you using Belkin software or Windows to manage the wireless
>>connection on PC2?
>>Can you see the name of your network on the "2nd PC"?  Are you sure it's
>>yours?  Did you change the default SSID on your router?
>>Are you using encryption?  Did you try to connect without using
>>encryption?  What happened?
>>

"Lem" wrote:

> gryffe wrote:
> > Thanks for reply Lem, hopefully the replies below will help.
> >
> > What version of Windows/what service pack?  -    XP , SP2
> >
> > What model router?   - BT Voyager 2091
> >
> > what model adaptor?    - BT Voyager
> >
> > Have you ever been able to use this network?     -  I used to be able to use
> > this network, I got a new PC which is now the main PC, the PC  I am now using
> > as the 2nd PC used to be the main PC.
> >
> >  If so, what's different now?    (see above)
> >
> > Are there any other PCs connected to the router? Wired or wireless? Do they
> > connect OK? To Internet? To each other?     -
> >  I also have a laptop which is wireless, connects to the main PC , they both
> > connect OK, and to the internet
> >
> >  How do you connect to the Internet?   Via the BT router (see above)
> >
> > Please describe your "network topology" -- .  for example, DSL connected to
> > DSL modem; modem connected to WAN port of Linksys WRT54G router; PC 1
> > connected via cable to LAN port 1 of router; PC 2 connected wirelessly to
> > router. Are you using Belkin software or Windows to manage the wireless
> > connection on PC2? -
> >
> >    Main PC is DSL connected to router, 2nd PC is the one with the problem,
> > 3rd PC is a laptop which connects wirelessly. I think I am using Windows
> > software to manage the wireless connection(do you mean Windows zero
> > configuration). The questions you ask below I am not sure about
> >
> >   Can you see the name of your network on the "2nd PC"? Are you sure it's
> > yours? Did you change the default SSID on your router? Are you using
> > encryption? Did you try to connect without using encryption? What happened?
> >
> >
> > "Lem" wrote:
> >
> >
> >>gryffe wrote:
> >>
> >>>Hi,
> >>>
> >>>I am trying to coonevt to the internet on a 2nd PC using a Belkin 54g
> >>>Wireless Network Adaptor. I have set up home network but the connection via
> >>>the Belkin fails with "this connection has limited or no connectivity" The
> >>>explanation is "the network did not assign a network address to the computer"
> >>>Any ideas/suggestions gratefully received.
> >>>Thanks in advance
> >>
> >>Not enough info.
> >>
> >>What version of Windows/what service pack?
> >>What model router? what model adaptor?
> >>Have you ever been able to use this network?  If so, what's different now?
> >>Are there any other PCs connected to the router?  Wired or wireless?  Do
> >>they connect OK?  To Internet?  To each other?
> >>How do you connect to the Internet?
> >>Please describe your "network topology"  -- for example, DSL connected
> >>to DSL modem; modem connected to WAN port of Linksys WRT54G router; PC 1
> >>connected via cable to LAN port 1 of router; PC 2 connected wirelessly
> >>to router.
> >>Are you using Belkin software or Windows to manage the wireless
> >>connection on PC2?
> >>Can you see the name of your network on the "2nd PC"?  Are you sure it's
> >>yours?  Did you change the default SSID on your router?
> >>Are you using encryption?  Did you try to connect without using
> >>encryption?  What happened?
> >>
>
> We're getting closer.
>
> If I understand your answers, you have PC1, PC2, and Laptop.  There is
> an Ethernet cable from PC1 (the new PC) to your BT Voyager DSL
> modem/router.  The Laptop connects wirelessly to the router with no
> problems.
>
> You have connected a Belkin 54g Wireless Network Adpator (the USB
> version?) to PC2.  You can't connect to the Internet with PC2.
>
> In PC2, do you have the Windows wireless configuration icon in the
> system notification area?  See http://tinyurl.com/qjtmp
>
> I will assume you do.  When you click on this icon, you should get the
> "choose a wireless network" dialog box.  See http://tinyurl.com/pvxhg
>
> Is at least one of the entries in that dialog box the name you selected
> for your wireless network?  Does it say "security-enabled" or
> "non-secure"?  If you did not select a name when you set up the router,
> the name of the network will be whatever BT has set as the default,
> probably something like BTVOYAGER2091.  The problem with not selecting
> your own unique name for your network is that if a neighbor has the same
> brand and model of router and similarly didn't change the default, you
> may be trying to connect to her network rather than your own.
>
> What happens when you select a network and click "connect"?
>
> Assuming that the above hasn't helped, boot up the Laptop and verify
> that it's connected to the Internet.  Open
> a command prompt {Start > run > cmd.exe [press enter]}
> In the command prompt window, type
> ipconfig /all [press enter]
>
> What is listed for the IP Address, Subnet Mask, Default Gateway, DHCP
> Server, and DNS Servers?  Is the setting for "Dhcp enabled" yes?
>
> Now do the same for PC1 and PC2.
>
> Please list the values for all three computers.
>
> Unless you have changed things, the "Default Gateway" for all three
> computers should be 192.168.1.1 (which is what I understand the default
> IP address of your BT router to be).
>
> The other three computers should have IP addresses of the form
> 192.168.1.xxx where xxx probably is 100, 101, and 102
>
> Assuming that PC2 does not have a correct IP address, open network
> connections, right click on the icon for your wireless adaptor, click
> "properties" and select "Internet  Protocol (TCP/IP)".  Then click
> "Properties."  On the "General" tab, make sure the radio button is
> selected next to "Obtain an IP address automatically."
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

> Hi Lem,
> I value youur suggestions you wrote for gryffe and hope that you can lend me
> a hand.  My home netowrk set up is very similar to gryffe (modem to router,
> router to vonage adapter, where pc is attached), but the pc works fine,
> however it is my wireless laptop that continues to display Limited or no
> Connectivity.  This happens off and on and I just have to reboot the router
> to get ithe laptop to behave.
>
> I just  moved in, but i am seeing a pattern of this and don't like it. 
> Though rebooting reouter works, it's a pain.  When it is having the problem
> and i trying renewing the ip in cmd window, this what i get..."No operation
> can be performed on Local Area connection while it has its media
> disconnected,  An error occurred while renewing interface wireless network
> connection : unable to contact your DHCP server. Request has timed out."
>
> I also noticed that there is a Lease Obtained and Lease Expires
> date/time...does this means that after that lease expires date comes, I will
> expect it to act up again with limited no connectivity?
> any suggestions? THANKS!
>
> "Lem" wrote:
>
>
>>gryffe wrote:
>>
>>>Thanks for reply Lem, hopefully the replies below will help.
>>>
>>>What version of Windows/what service pack?  -    XP , SP2
>>>
>>>What model router?   - BT Voyager 2091
>>>
>>>what model adaptor?    - BT Voyager
>>>
>>>Have you ever been able to use this network?     -  I used to be able to use
>>>this network, I got a new PC which is now the main PC, the PC  I am now using
>>>as the 2nd PC used to be the main PC.
>>>
>>> If so, what's different now?    (see above)
>>>
>>>Are there any other PCs connected to the router? Wired or wireless? Do they
>>>connect OK? To Internet? To each other?     -
>>> I also have a laptop which is wireless, connects to the main PC , they both
>>>connect OK, and to the internet
>>>
>>> How do you connect to the Internet?   Via the BT router (see above)
>>>
>>>Please describe your "network topology" -- .  for example, DSL connected to
>>>DSL modem; modem connected to WAN port of Linksys WRT54G router; PC 1
>>>connected via cable to LAN port 1 of router; PC 2 connected wirelessly to
>>>router. Are you using Belkin software or Windows to manage the wireless
>>>connection on PC2? -
>>>
>>>   Main PC is DSL connected to router, 2nd PC is the one with the problem,
>>>3rd PC is a laptop which connects wirelessly. I think I am using Windows
>>>software to manage the wireless connection(do you mean Windows zero
>>>configuration). The questions you ask below I am not sure about
>>>
>>>  Can you see the name of your network on the "2nd PC"? Are you sure it's
>>>yours? Did you change the default SSID on your router? Are you using
>>>encryption? Did you try to connect without using encryption? What happened?
>>>
>>>
>>>"Lem" wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>gryffe wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>>I am trying to coonevt to the internet on a 2nd PC using a Belkin 54g
>>>>>Wireless Network Adaptor. I have set up home network but the connection via
>>>>>the Belkin fails with "this connection has limited or no connectivity" The
>>>>>explanation is "the network did not assign a network address to the computer"
>>>>>Any ideas/suggestions gratefully received.
>>>>>Thanks in advance
>>>>
>>>>Not enough info.
>>>>
>>>>What version of Windows/what service pack?
>>>>What model router? what model adaptor?
>>>>Have you ever been able to use this network?  If so, what's different now?
>>>>Are there any other PCs connected to the router?  Wired or wireless?  Do
>>>>they connect OK?  To Internet?  To each other?
>>>>How do you connect to the Internet?
>>>>Please describe your "network topology"  -- for example, DSL connected
>>>>to DSL modem; modem connected to WAN port of Linksys WRT54G router; PC 1
>>>>connected via cable to LAN port 1 of router; PC 2 connected wirelessly
>>>>to router.
>>>>Are you using Belkin software or Windows to manage the wireless
>>>>connection on PC2?
>>>>Can you see the name of your network on the "2nd PC"?  Are you sure it's
>>>>yours?  Did you change the default SSID on your router?
>>>>Are you using encryption?  Did you try to connect without using
>>>>encryption?  What happened?
>>>>
>>
>>We're getting closer.
>>
>>If I understand your answers, you have PC1, PC2, and Laptop.  There is
>>an Ethernet cable from PC1 (the new PC) to your BT Voyager DSL
>>modem/router.  The Laptop connects wirelessly to the router with no
>>problems.
>>
>>You have connected a Belkin 54g Wireless Network Adpator (the USB
>>version?) to PC2.  You can't connect to the Internet with PC2.
>>
>>In PC2, do you have the Windows wireless configuration icon in the
>>system notification area?  See http://tinyurl.com/qjtmp
>>
>>I will assume you do.  When you click on this icon, you should get the
>>"choose a wireless network" dialog box.  See http://tinyurl.com/pvxhg
>>
>>Is at least one of the entries in that dialog box the name you selected
>>for your wireless network?  Does it say "security-enabled" or
>>"non-secure"?  If you did not select a name when you set up the router,
>>the name of the network will be whatever BT has set as the default,
>>probably something like BTVOYAGER2091.  The problem with not selecting
>>your own unique name for your network is that if a neighbor has the same
>>brand and model of router and similarly didn't change the default, you
>>may be trying to connect to her network rather than your own.
>>
>>What happens when you select a network and click "connect"?
>>
>>Assuming that the above hasn't helped, boot up the Laptop and verify
>>that it's connected to the Internet.  Open
>>a command prompt {Start > run > cmd.exe [press enter]}
>>In the command prompt window, type
>>ipconfig /all [press enter]
>>
>>What is listed for the IP Address, Subnet Mask, Default Gateway, DHCP
>>Server, and DNS Servers?  Is the setting for "Dhcp enabled" yes?
>>
>>Now do the same for PC1 and PC2.
>>
>>Please list the values for all three computers.
>>
>>Unless you have changed things, the "Default Gateway" for all three
>>computers should be 192.168.1.1 (which is what I understand the default
>>IP address of your BT router to be).
>>
>>The other three computers should have IP addresses of the form
>>192.168.1.xxx where xxx probably is 100, 101, and 102
>>
>>Assuming that PC2 does not have a correct IP address, open network
>>connections, right click on the icon for your wireless adaptor, click
>>"properties" and select "Internet  Protocol (TCP/IP)".  Then click
>>"Properties."  On the "General" tab, make sure the radio button is
>>selected next to "Obtain an IP address automatically."

"Lem" wrote:

> See response at bottom of post
>
> lttbui wrote:
> > Hi Lem,
> > I value youur suggestions you wrote for gryffe and hope that you can lend me
> > a hand.  My home netowrk set up is very similar to gryffe (modem to router,
> > router to vonage adapter, where pc is attached), but the pc works fine,
> > however it is my wireless laptop that continues to display Limited or no
> > Connectivity.  This happens off and on and I just have to reboot the router
> > to get ithe laptop to behave.
> >
> > I just  moved in, but i am seeing a pattern of this and don't like it. 
> > Though rebooting reouter works, it's a pain.  When it is having the problem
> > and i trying renewing the ip in cmd window, this what i get..."No operation
> > can be performed on Local Area connection while it has its media
> > disconnected,  An error occurred while renewing interface wireless network
> > connection : unable to contact your DHCP server. Request has timed out."
> >
> > I also noticed that there is a Lease Obtained and Lease Expires
> > date/time...does this means that after that lease expires date comes, I will
> > expect it to act up again with limited no connectivity?
> > any suggestions? THANKS!
> >
> > "Lem" wrote:
> >
> >
> >>gryffe wrote:
> >>
> >>>Thanks for reply Lem, hopefully the replies below will help.
> >>>
> >>>What version of Windows/what service pack?  -    XP , SP2
> >>>
> >>>What model router?   - BT Voyager 2091
> >>>
> >>>what model adaptor?    - BT Voyager
> >>>
> >>>Have you ever been able to use this network?     -  I used to be able to use
> >>>this network, I got a new PC which is now the main PC, the PC  I am now using
> >>>as the 2nd PC used to be the main PC.
> >>>
> >>> If so, what's different now?    (see above)
> >>>
> >>>Are there any other PCs connected to the router? Wired or wireless? Do they
> >>>connect OK? To Internet? To each other?     -
> >>> I also have a laptop which is wireless, connects to the main PC , they both
> >>>connect OK, and to the internet
> >>>
> >>> How do you connect to the Internet?   Via the BT router (see above)
> >>>
> >>>Please describe your "network topology" -- .  for example, DSL connected to
> >>>DSL modem; modem connected to WAN port of Linksys WRT54G router; PC 1
> >>>connected via cable to LAN port 1 of router; PC 2 connected wirelessly to
> >>>router. Are you using Belkin software or Windows to manage the wireless
> >>>connection on PC2? -
> >>>
> >>>   Main PC is DSL connected to router, 2nd PC is the one with the problem,
> >>>3rd PC is a laptop which connects wirelessly. I think I am using Windows
> >>>software to manage the wireless connection(do you mean Windows zero
> >>>configuration). The questions you ask below I am not sure about
> >>>
> >>>  Can you see the name of your network on the "2nd PC"? Are you sure it's
> >>>yours? Did you change the default SSID on your router? Are you using
> >>>encryption? Did you try to connect without using encryption? What happened?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>"Lem" wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>gryffe wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>Hi,
> >>>>>
> >>>>>I am trying to coonevt to the internet on a 2nd PC using a Belkin 54g
> >>>>>Wireless Network Adaptor. I have set up home network but the connection via
> >>>>>the Belkin fails with "this connection has limited or no connectivity" The
> >>>>>explanation is "the network did not assign a network address to the computer"
> >>>>>Any ideas/suggestions gratefully received.
> >>>>>Thanks in advance
> >>>>
> >>>>Not enough info.
> >>>>
> >>>>What version of Windows/what service pack?
> >>>>What model router? what model adaptor?
> >>>>Have you ever been able to use this network?  If so, what's different now?
> >>>>Are there any other PCs connected to the router?  Wired or wireless?  Do
> >>>>they connect OK?  To Internet?  To each other?
> >>>>How do you connect to the Internet?
> >>>>Please describe your "network topology"  -- for example, DSL connected
> >>>>to DSL modem; modem connected to WAN port of Linksys WRT54G router; PC 1
> >>>>connected via cable to LAN port 1 of router; PC 2 connected wirelessly
> >>>>to router.
> >>>>Are you using Belkin software or Windows to manage the wireless
> >>>>connection on PC2?
> >>>>Can you see the name of your network on the "2nd PC"?  Are you sure it's
> >>>>yours?  Did you change the default SSID on your router?
> >>>>Are you using encryption?  Did you try to connect without using
> >>>>encryption?  What happened?
> >>>>
> >>
> >>We're getting closer.
> >>
> >>If I understand your answers, you have PC1, PC2, and Laptop.  There is
> >>an Ethernet cable from PC1 (the new PC) to your BT Voyager DSL
> >>modem/router.  The Laptop connects wirelessly to the router with no
> >>problems.
> >>
> >>You have connected a Belkin 54g Wireless Network Adpator (the USB
> >>version?) to PC2.  You can't connect to the Internet with PC2.
> >>
> >>In PC2, do you have the Windows wireless configuration icon in the
> >>system notification area?  See http://tinyurl.com/qjtmp
> >>
> >>I will assume you do.  When you click on this icon, you should get the
> >>"choose a wireless network" dialog box.  See http://tinyurl.com/pvxhg
> >>
> >>Is at least one of the entries in that dialog box the name you selected
> >>for your wireless network?  Does it say "security-enabled" or
> >>"non-secure"?  If you did not select a name when you set up the router,
> >>the name of the network will be whatever BT has set as the default,
> >>probably something like BTVOYAGER2091.  The problem with not selecting
> >>your own unique name for your network is that if a neighbor has the same
> >>brand and model of router and similarly didn't change the default, you
> >>may be trying to connect to her network rather than your own.
> >>
> >>What happens when you select a network and click "connect"?
> >>
> >>Assuming that the above hasn't helped, boot up the Laptop and verify
> >>that it's connected to the Internet.  Open
> >>a command prompt {Start > run > cmd.exe [press enter]}
> >>In the command prompt window, type
> >>ipconfig /all [press enter]
> >>
> >>What is listed for the IP Address, Subnet Mask, Default Gateway, DHCP
> >>Server, and DNS Servers?  Is the setting for "Dhcp enabled" yes?
> >>
> >>Now do the same for PC1 and PC2.
> >>
> >>Please list the values for all three computers.
> >>
> >>Unless you have changed things, the "Default Gateway" for all three
> >>computers should be 192.168.1.1 (which is what I understand the default
> >>IP address of your BT router to be).
> >>
> >>The other three computers should have IP addresses of the form
> >>192.168.1.xxx where xxx probably is 100, 101, and 102
> >>
> >>Assuming that PC2 does not have a correct IP address, open network
> >>connections, right click on the icon for your wireless adaptor, click
> >>"properties" and select "Internet  Protocol (TCP/IP)".  Then click
> >>"Properties."  On the "General" tab, make sure the radio button is
> >>selected next to "Obtain an IP address automatically."
>
> I've never worked with Vonage, so I don't know how this might cause any
> difficulties.  Let's assume that it isn't the problem.
>
> Intermittent problems are hard to diagnose, and could easily be
> hardware-related.  Also consider environmental problems -- how far is
> your laptop from the router, and what's in between?  Are there other
> source of 2.5 MHz radio interference nearby (microwave ovens, some
> cordless phones, neighbor's wifi)?  When Windows indicates a "good
> connection" all it means is that it's receiving a high level of
> something -- which may or may not be the signal from your router.
>
> Don't worry about DHCP leases.  Under normal circumstances, they
> automatically renew before the lease expires.  A problem will arise if
> the laptop can't contact the router (where the DHCP server is) when it
> tries to renew the lease.  See, e.g.,
> http://tcpipguide.com/free/t_DHCPLeaseLifeCycleOverviewAllocationReallocationRe.htm
>
> Try placing the laptop physically close to the router.  Try changing the
> router's channel from default (6?) to channel 1 or channel 11.  See if
> you can associate the error messages with cordless telephone and/or
> microwave oven use.  If your router is not new, check to see if there is
> updated firmware for it (unless you had the same router working fine
> elsewhere before you "just moved in").
>

>
> "Lem" wrote:
>
>> See response at bottom of post
>>
>> lttbui wrote:
>>> Hi Lem,
>>> I value youur suggestions you wrote for gryffe and hope that you can lend me
>>> a hand.  My home netowrk set up is very similar to gryffe (modem to router,
>>> router to vonage adapter, where pc is attached), but the pc works fine,
>>> however it is my wireless laptop that continues to display Limited or no
>>> Connectivity.  This happens off and on and I just have to reboot the router
>>> to get ithe laptop to behave.
>>>
>>> I just  moved in, but i am seeing a pattern of this and don't like it. 
>>> Though rebooting reouter works, it's a pain.  When it is having the problem
>>> and i trying renewing the ip in cmd window, this what i get..."No operation
>>> can be performed on Local Area connection while it has its media
>>> disconnected,  An error occurred while renewing interface wireless network
>>> connection : unable to contact your DHCP server. Request has timed out."
>>>
>>> I also noticed that there is a Lease Obtained and Lease Expires
>>> date/time...does this means that after that lease expires date comes, I will
>>> expect it to act up again with limited no connectivity?
>>> any suggestions? THANKS!
>>>
>>> "Lem" wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> gryffe wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for reply Lem, hopefully the replies below will help.
>>>>>
>>>>> What version of Windows/what service pack?  -    XP , SP2
>>>>>
>>>>> What model router?   - BT Voyager 2091
>>>>>
>>>>> what model adaptor?    - BT Voyager
>>>>>
>>>>> Have you ever been able to use this network?     -  I used to be able to use
>>>>> this network, I got a new PC which is now the main PC, the PC  I am now using
>>>>> as the 2nd PC used to be the main PC.
>>>>>
>>>>> If so, what's different now?    (see above)
>>>>>
>>>>> Are there any other PCs connected to the router? Wired or wireless? Do they
>>>>> connect OK? To Internet? To each other?     -
>>>>> I also have a laptop which is wireless, connects to the main PC , they both
>>>>> connect OK, and to the internet
>>>>>
>>>>> How do you connect to the Internet?   Via the BT router (see above)
>>>>>
>>>>> Please describe your "network topology" -- .  for example, DSL connected to
>>>>> DSL modem; modem connected to WAN port of Linksys WRT54G router; PC 1
>>>>> connected via cable to LAN port 1 of router; PC 2 connected wirelessly to
>>>>> router. Are you using Belkin software or Windows to manage the wireless
>>>>> connection on PC2? -
>>>>>
>>>>>   Main PC is DSL connected to router, 2nd PC is the one with the problem,
>>>>> 3rd PC is a laptop which connects wirelessly. I think I am using Windows
>>>>> software to manage the wireless connection(do you mean Windows zero
>>>>> configuration). The questions you ask below I am not sure about
>>>>>
>>>>>  Can you see the name of your network on the "2nd PC"? Are you sure it's
>>>>> yours? Did you change the default SSID on your router? Are you using
>>>>> encryption? Did you try to connect without using encryption? What happened?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Lem" wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> gryffe wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I am trying to coonevt to the internet on a 2nd PC using a Belkin 54g
>>>>>>> Wireless Network Adaptor. I have set up home network but the connection via
>>>>>>> the Belkin fails with "this connection has limited or no connectivity" The
>>>>>>> explanation is "the network did not assign a network address to the computer"
>>>>>>> Any ideas/suggestions gratefully received.
>>>>>>> Thanks in advance
>>>>>> Not enough info.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What version of Windows/what service pack?
>>>>>> What model router? what model adaptor?
>>>>>> Have you ever been able to use this network?  If so, what's different now?
>>>>>> Are there any other PCs connected to the router?  Wired or wireless?  Do
>>>>>> they connect OK?  To Internet?  To each other?
>>>>>> How do you connect to the Internet?
>>>>>> Please describe your "network topology"  -- for example, DSL connected
>>>>>> to DSL modem; modem connected to WAN port of Linksys WRT54G router; PC 1
>>>>>> connected via cable to LAN port 1 of router; PC 2 connected wirelessly
>>>>>> to router.
>>>>>> Are you using Belkin software or Windows to manage the wireless
>>>>>> connection on PC2?
>>>>>> Can you see the name of your network on the "2nd PC"?  Are you sure it's
>>>>>> yours?  Did you change the default SSID on your router?
>>>>>> Are you using encryption?  Did you try to connect without using
>>>>>> encryption?  What happened?
>>>>>>
>>>> We're getting closer.
>>>>
>>>> If I understand your answers, you have PC1, PC2, and Laptop.  There is
>>>> an Ethernet cable from PC1 (the new PC) to your BT Voyager DSL
>>>> modem/router.  The Laptop connects wirelessly to the router with no
>>>> problems.
>>>>
>>>> You have connected a Belkin 54g Wireless Network Adpator (the USB
>>>> version?) to PC2.  You can't connect to the Internet with PC2.
>>>>
>>>> In PC2, do you have the Windows wireless configuration icon in the
>>>> system notification area?  See http://tinyurl.com/qjtmp
>>>>
>>>> I will assume you do.  When you click on this icon, you should get the
>>>> "choose a wireless network" dialog box.  See http://tinyurl.com/pvxhg
>>>>
>>>> Is at least one of the entries in that dialog box the name you selected
>>>> for your wireless network?  Does it say "security-enabled" or
>>>> "non-secure"?  If you did not select a name when you set up the router,
>>>> the name of the network will be whatever BT has set as the default,
>>>> probably something like BTVOYAGER2091.  The problem with not selecting
>>>> your own unique name for your network is that if a neighbor has the same
>>>> brand and model of router and similarly didn't change the default, you
>>>> may be trying to connect to her network rather than your own.
>>>>
>>>> What happens when you select a network and click "connect"?
>>>>
>>>> Assuming that the above hasn't helped, boot up the Laptop and verify
>>>> that it's connected to the Internet.  Open
>>>> a command prompt {Start > run > cmd.exe [press enter]}
>>>> In the command prompt window, type
>>>> ipconfig /all [press enter]
>>>>
>>>> What is listed for the IP Address, Subnet Mask, Default Gateway, DHCP
>>>> Server, and DNS Servers?  Is the setting for "Dhcp enabled" yes?
>>>>
>>>> Now do the same for PC1 and PC2.
>>>>
>>>> Please list the values for all three computers.
>>>>
>>>> Unless you have changed things, the "Default Gateway" for all three
>>>> computers should be 192.168.1.1 (which is what I understand the default
>>>> IP address of your BT router to be).
>>>>
>>>> The other three computers should have IP addresses of the form
>>>> 192.168.1.xxx where xxx probably is 100, 101, and 102
>>>>
>>>> Assuming that PC2 does not have a correct IP address, open network
>>>> connections, right click on the icon for your wireless adaptor, click
>>>> "properties" and select "Internet  Protocol (TCP/IP)".  Then click
>>>> "Properties."  On the "General" tab, make sure the radio button is
>>>> selected next to "Obtain an IP address automatically."
>> I've never worked with Vonage, so I don't know how this might cause any
>> difficulties.  Let's assume that it isn't the problem.
>>
>> Intermittent problems are hard to diagnose, and could easily be
>> hardware-related.  Also consider environmental problems -- how far is
>> your laptop from the router, and what's in between?  Are there other
>> source of 2.5 MHz radio interference nearby (microwave ovens, some
>> cordless phones, neighbor's wifi)?  When Windows indicates a "good
>> connection" all it means is that it's receiving a high level of
>> something -- which may or may not be the signal from your router.
>>
>> Don't worry about DHCP leases.  Under normal circumstances, they
>> automatically renew before the lease expires.  A problem will arise if
>> the laptop can't contact the router (where the DHCP server is) when it
>> tries to renew the lease.  See, e.g.,
>> http://tcpipguide.com/free/t_DHCPLeaseLifeCycleOverviewAllocationReallocationRe.htm
>>
>> Try placing the laptop physically close to the router.  Try changing the
>> router's channel from default (6?) to channel 1 or channel 11.  See if
>> you can associate the error messages with cordless telephone and/or
>> microwave oven use.  If your router is not new, check to see if there is
>> updated firmware for it (unless you had the same router working fine
>> elsewhere before you "just moved in").
>>
>
> Hi again, Lem,
>
> Thanks for all the suggestions.  I have ruled out my cordless phone. 
> Unplugged it for the day and the prob still persisted. Note, phone is not new
> and have used it fine in previous location. Tried Channels other than 6 and
> no luck. No microwave nearby, distance to router is not far (been further)
> and nothing significant in between, and router firmware is up to date. Only
> new factors are obivously, I just moved here and the fact that this vonage
> phone adapter is a new addition to the network.  I'm suspecting the vonage,
> but if any issues, i would expect it from my pc and not the laptop. As
> mentioned, the network is modem --> router > vonage phone adapter, where pc
> is lan connected.  Wireless laptop is looking directly to router, so assume
> wireless is safe from that interference.  Do you think that is safe to assume?
>
> I am interested in what you mention about neighbor wifi interferences.  I
> don't know much about this idea, but there are a couple of secured networks
> that my machine keeps finding, regardless of my deleting them from my list. 
> Sometimes they show and my own is not found!! :(.  So now i'm wondering if
> this could be the cause and want to learn more how to test it out or fix it.
>
> Btw, thanks for link to DHCP info., educational!
>
> Thanks, much appreciated,
> lttbui

"gryffe" wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I am trying to coonevt to the internet on a 2nd PC using a Belkin 54g
> Wireless Network Adaptor. I have set up home network but the connection via
> the Belkin fails with "this connection has limited or no connectivity" The
> explanation is "the network did not assign a network address to the computer"
> Any ideas/suggestions gratefully received.
> Thanks in advance

"ato_***@hotmail.com" wrote:

>
> On  9-Jul-2006, =?Utf-8?B?Z3J5ZmZl?= <gry***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
>
> > If you put forward suggestion could you please explain how to action them,
> > just assume that I know nothing and you wouldnt be far from the truth :)
>
> Sure it isn't a firewall problem?
> Default setting not letting you see the outside world.
>

"gryffe" wrote:

> Pretty sure its not a firewall problem. 3rd part firewall has been turned
> off, only firewall protection is via the router and this shouldnt be a
> problem, should it?
>
> "ato_***@hotmail.com" wrote:
>
> >
> > On  9-Jul-2006, =?Utf-8?B?Z3J5ZmZl?= <gry***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
> >
> > > If you put forward suggestion could you please explain how to action them,
> > > just assume that I know nothing and you wouldnt be far from the truth :)
> >
> > Sure it isn't a firewall problem?
> > Default setting not letting you see the outside world.
> >

> Ok , here goes Lem. All of your assumptions were correct. Regarding the name
> of my network it is BTVOYAGER2091, however I seem to have two, the one which
> I am trying to connect is called BTVOYAGER2091-94(security enabled), the
> other which is not connected is called -69. When I use WZC for
> BTVOYAGER2091-94 it asks for a WEP key which I input using the details
> supplied by BT - this works with the laptop.
> Now to the troubleshooting you supplied.
> The laptop can connect to the internet.
> IPCONFIG/ALL for laptop is
> IP address 192.168.1.3, Subnet=255.255.255.0, Default gateway,DHCP and DNS
> are  all 192.168.1.1, DHCP setting is enabled.
>
> IPCONFIG/ALL for PC1 is
> IP address 192.168.1.2, Subnet=255.255.255.0, Default gateway,DHCP and DNS
> are all 192.168.1.1, DHCP setting is enabled.
>
> IPCONFIG/ALL for PC2 is
> IP address 192.168.1.4, Subnet=255.255.255.0, Default gateway,DHCP and DNS
> are all 192.168.1.1, DHCP setting is   NOT enabled. Please note these were
> static settings that I applied when I saw a similar problem to mine covered
> in another topic.
>
> Using the above static IP address for the "problem" PC means that I can
> connect properly, however when I try to browse the internet I get an error
> "cannot connect to the server" . When I try to coonect to MSN Messenger I get
> "default gateway is offline".
> When I use the "obtain an IP address automatically" I get "limited or no
> connectivity" and still cannot browse the internet.
>
> Might be worh mentioning that there is a wireless card installed on this
> "problem" PC which I used a few years back, however this is disabled so
> hopefully not an issue.
>
> Any more ideas Lem?
>
> I've also just seen Diamontinas reply, given that DHCP is NOT enabled on the
> problem PC, is this where the problem lies? How do I go about enabling this?
> If you put forward suggestion could you please explain how to action them,
> just assume that I know nothing and you wouldnt be far from the truth :)
>
> Thanks in advance
>
>
> "gryffe" wrote:
>
>
>>Hi,
>>
>>I am trying to coonevt to the internet on a 2nd PC using a Belkin 54g
>>Wireless Network Adaptor. I have set up home network but the connection via
>>the Belkin fails with "this connection has limited or no connectivity" The
>>explanation is "the network did not assign a network address to the computer"
>>Any ideas/suggestions gratefully received.
>>Thanks in advance

"gryffe" <gry***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:4CA78780-E767-463E-9F8D-00ECEB6DE4DB@microsoft.com...
> Hi,
>
> I am trying to coonevt to the internet on a 2nd PC using a Belkin 54g
> Wireless Network Adaptor. I have set up home network but the connection
> via
> the Belkin fails with "this connection has limited or no connectivity" The
> explanation is "the network did not assign a network address to the
> computer"
> Any ideas/suggestions gratefully received.
> Thanks in advance

"Jack (MVP-Networking)." wrote:

> Hi
>
> As a first step connect to the Router via a Wired computer, read the Router's
> manual and configure the Router's LAN side as it should.  Put every thing on
> default. Make sure that DHCP is enabled, and switch Off the Wireless
> Security.


> At this point, if the Wireless computer would not connect at default without
> security.
>
> Read this, http://www.ezlan.net/wireless.html
>
> Check the Network configuration of the computer.
>
> In General, you can debug the Network Settings of a computer by following
> these steps.
>
> Check the Network parameters in the Computer's Device Manager. Make sure
> that the Network Card drivers are installed correctly; i.e. there is No IRQ
> conflict, and No Ghost installation. http://www.ezlan.net/faq#ghost
>
> Step Two Verify Basic network setting in the OS:
> http://www.ezlan.net/Installing#verify If the above two Steps indicates that
> every thing looks good but functionally it does not work.
>
> Step Three. Check (and repair if necessary) the Socket Layers, Winsock, and
> or refresh the TCP/IP Stack. http://www.ezlan.net/clean#refreshnet
>
> When working well secure the wireless.
>
> http://www.ezlan.net/Wireless_Security.html
>
> Jack (MVP-Networking).
>
>
>
> "gryffe" <gry***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:4CA78780-E767-463E-9F8D-00ECEB6DE4DB@microsoft.com...
> > Hi,
> >
> > I am trying to coonevt to the internet on a 2nd PC using a Belkin 54g
> > Wireless Network Adaptor. I have set up home network but the connection
> > via
> > the Belkin fails with "this connection has limited or no connectivity" The
> > explanation is "the network did not assign a network address to the
> > computer"
> > Any ideas/suggestions gratefully received.
> > Thanks in advance
>
>
>

"Diamontina Cocktail" wrote:

>
> "gryffe" <gry***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:5270643D-F7C8-4529-8E51-714BD6EE4C94@microsoft.com...
> > Jack, thanks for the reply but these tips either didnt work, or more to
> > the
> > point didnt make much sense to me :)
> > The router is already connected to a wired computer with no problems, it
> > is
> > a BT modem/router so came fully configured and without a manual. I do not
> > know how to put everything on default, or how to switch off Wireless
>
> At this point, it would be better for you to pay to get someone in. If you
> don't know how to do those things, you will get it all fixed much easier
> getting in someone who does know.
>
>
>

"Diamontina Cocktail" wrote:

>
> "gryffe" <gry***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:EA671765-D7DF-43F9-87CE-02B1958411B4@microsoft.com...
> >I am now going on holiday for 10 days. If anyone has any ideas please feel
> > free to post them and I will attempt to perform these suggestions when I
> > return. Surely somebody on here can come up with a fix without me having
> > to
> > pay, isnt that waht these forums are for?
> >
>
> Yes it certainly is what they are for but you have to have at least a
> CERTAIN level of knowledge or the rather reckless abandon that everyone goes
> through at some point in order to figure out what they really dont know. If
> you dont have either of those, then no amount of help we give WILL help.
>
> > thanks for all suggestions so far
> >
>
> No problems.
>
>
>

"gryffe" wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I am trying to coonevt to the internet on a 2nd PC using a Belkin 54g
> Wireless Network Adaptor. I have set up home network but the connection via
> the Belkin fails with "this connection has limited or no connectivity" The
> explanation is "the network did not assign a network address to the computer"
> Any ideas/suggestions gratefully received.
> Thanks in advance

"noob" <n***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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> My laptop shows I am connected but then I cannot access internet...it says
> no
> server found?-help
> noob
>
>
>
>
> "gryffe" wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I am trying to coonevt to the internet on a 2nd PC using a Belkin 54g
>> Wireless Network Adaptor. I have set up home network but the connection
>> via
>> the Belkin fails with "this connection has limited or no connectivity"
>> The
>> explanation is "the network did not assign a network address to the
>> computer"
>> Any ideas/suggestions gratefully received.
>> Thanks in advance
>
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"noob" <n***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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> My laptop shows I am connected but then I cannot access internet...it says
> no
> server found?-help
> noob
>
>
>
>
> "gryffe" wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I am trying to coonevt to the internet on a 2nd PC using a Belkin 54g
>> Wireless Network Adaptor. I have set up home network but the connection
>> via
>> the Belkin fails with "this connection has limited or no connectivity"
>> The
>> explanation is "the network did not assign a network address to the
>> computer"
>> Any ideas/suggestions gratefully received.
>> Thanks in advance