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ad hoc wireless network-questionshow a very small home network, probably consisting of one PC running Windows XP or later, and one laptop runnning Windows XP or later, work. I have a Broadband cable connection. Will I be able to access 1) the Internet via the broadband connection using the laptop? Will I have to copy all the data from my PC's Explorer so that the cable supplier thinks the laptop is my PC? (there is a setup disc that was needed to allow the PC to use Broadband via NTL) 2) will I be able to download emails using the same protocols that I use on my PC? How is this done? e.g. Does the laptop copy for itself Eudora for the purpose, or do I have to buy another copy, or does the laptop actuate the existing copy on my PC? How does the laptop use any functions or software on the PC, if it can do that at all. Does Norton AV and Network Security allow itself to be configured for this setup or does it require the purchase of a second copy for the laptop? In normal useage, does this setup require the PC to be left running, or can the laptop function without the PC? (see the above question on how the software is used) Thanks, -- Tarantella Hi
For regular peer to peer Network topology you need a Wireless Router and one Wireless Card. For Ad-Hoc you would need two Wireless cards (No Router). I do not know where you are at, but giving current prices in the USA, a Wireless Router can be found for the same price (or few $$) as the additional Wireless Card. Ad-Hoc solution is many times “Quirky” (needs software NAT) and always limiting you with future expansion options. Ad-Hoc might also force you to use less secure Wireless configuration. I.e. there is No reason what so ever to use Ad-Hoc when you have a regular Broadband connection. The content of the following links will provide you with a basic tutorial about Sharing Internet and using Wireless; it is short and to the point: The three first pages were written ages ago. You might ignore the prices, and the specific choice of hardware, stick with the principles they are still the same. Basic Options for Internet Connection Sharing - http://www.anandtech.com/guides/viewfaq.html?i=105 Hubs, routers, switches, DSL, LANs, WANs...? - http://www.anandtech.com/guides/viewfaq.html?i=48 Wireless Principles - http://www.anandtech.com/guides/viewfaq.html?i=122 The whole thing should like this, http://www.ezlan.net/network/router.jpg Wireless hardware: http://www.ezlan.net/Wireless_Hardware.html Wireless - Basic Configuration: http://www.ezlan.net/Wireless_Config.html Wireless - Basic Security: http://www.ezlan.net/Wireless_Security.html Jack (MVP-Networking). Show quoteHide quote "Tarantella" <Sunsh***@coast.com> wrote in message news:K3wsg.7872$FR.2935@newsfe6-gui.ntli.net... > Before I spend my money, I would like to get straight in my head > how a very small home network, probably consisting of one PC > running Windows XP or later, and one laptop runnning Windows XP > or later, work. > I have a Broadband cable connection. > Will I be able to access 1) the Internet via the broadband connection > using the laptop? > Will I have to copy all the data from my PC's Explorer so that > the cable supplier thinks the laptop is my PC? > (there is a setup disc that was needed to allow the PC to use > Broadband via NTL) > 2) will I be able to download emails using the same protocols that > I use on my PC? How is this done? e.g. Does the laptop copy for itself > Eudora for the purpose, or do I have to buy another copy, or > does the laptop actuate the existing copy on my PC? > How does the laptop use any functions or software on the PC, > if it can do that at all. > Does Norton AV and Network Security allow itself to be > configured for this setup or does it require the purchase of a > second copy for the laptop? > In normal useage, does this setup require the PC to be left running, > or can the laptop function without the PC? (see the above question > on how the software is used) > Thanks, > -- > Tarantella > You can use either wired or wireless and the answer to most of your
questions is yes/okay. I say most because in a peer-to-peer network (not server oriented) both computers can access the internet either individually through a router (as recommended by Jack) or via ICS if the computers are wired (ad-hoc) to each other. However you will be able to utilize data between computers but not run software on one from the other. In other words, if you have Access data on one computer you will require Access to be installed on both to interchangeably use data (data only needs to be on on computer) I Apologize if it is confusing - sometime I am not too clear. Show quoteHide quote "Tarantella" <Sunsh***@coast.com> wrote in message news:K3wsg.7872$FR.2935@newsfe6-gui.ntli.net... > Before I spend my money, I would like to get straight in my head > how a very small home network, probably consisting of one PC > running Windows XP or later, and one laptop runnning Windows XP > or later, work. > I have a Broadband cable connection. > Will I be able to access 1) the Internet via the broadband connection > using the laptop? > Will I have to copy all the data from my PC's Explorer so that > the cable supplier thinks the laptop is my PC? > (there is a setup disc that was needed to allow the PC to use > Broadband via NTL) > 2) will I be able to download emails using the same protocols that > I use on my PC? How is this done? e.g. Does the laptop copy for itself > Eudora for the purpose, or do I have to buy another copy, or > does the laptop actuate the existing copy on my PC? > How does the laptop use any functions or software on the PC, > if it can do that at all. > Does Norton AV and Network Security allow itself to be > configured for this setup or does it require the purchase of a > second copy for the laptop? > In normal useage, does this setup require the PC to be left running, > or can the laptop function without the PC? (see the above question > on how the software is used) > Thanks, > -- > Tarantella > See responses in-line
Tarantella wrote: > Before I spend my money, I would like to get straight in my head No. If you get a router -- and you should -- it is the router that is > how a very small home network, probably consisting of one PC > running Windows XP or later, and one laptop runnning Windows XP > or later, work. > I have a Broadband cable connection. > Will I be able to access 1) the Internet via the broadband connection > using the laptop? Yes > Will I have to copy all the data from my PC's Explorer so that > the cable supplier thinks the laptop is my PC? connected to your ISP. AFAIK, some cable ISPs are configured such that only the PC that originally was authorized to connect can connect. Most entry-level routers can deal with this situation by "cloning" the MAC address (which identifies the physical piece of hardware) so that the router appears to the cable company as if it were your original computer. > (there is a setup disc that was needed to allow the PC to use Each computer must have its own copy of whatever e-mail client you like. > Broadband via NTL) > 2) will I be able to download emails using the same protocols that > I use on my PC? How is this done? e.g. Does the laptop copy for itself > Eudora for the purpose, or do I have to buy another copy, or > does the laptop actuate the existing copy on my PC? There are many available for free. E-mail clients usually have an option either to "leave messages on server" or not to do so. If you leave the messages on your ISP's server, you can download the same messages to each PC. You eventually will have to delete them, however, because your ISP only allocates so much space for you. If you do not leave the messages on the server (the typical default), then once you download them to one PC, you will not be able to download them to the other. You can always, however, manually synchronize your e-mails by copying the appropriate files over your new network. > How does the laptop use any functions or software on the PC, You can share files and printers between networked computers, but unless > if it can do that at all. you use something like Remote Desktop, you can't run applications installed on one PC from another PC. > Does Norton AV and Network Security allow itself to be See above. You will have to buy separate copies of antivirus and > configured for this setup or does it require the purchase of a > second copy for the laptop? antispyware applications for each computer. Note, however, that there are many free a/v apps (and many in this NG who will argue that they are far preferable to Norton/Symantec products -- just ask). > In normal useage, does this setup require the PC to be left running, Because the Internet connection is through the router, only the computer > or can the laptop function without the PC? (see the above question > on how the software is used) you are using need be on in order to browse the Internet. On the other hand, you can't access files that reside on a computer unless that computer is turned on. The same goes for printers physically attached to that computer. Show quoteHide quote > Thanks, Hello, I have a very similar setup question.
I have a WinXP desktop connecting directly to a cable modem, which is in turn connected to a broadband service. This setup is working fine. I'd like to create an adh-hoc network so that my laptop, which I very infrequently bring home, can transfer files mainly, and can also be used (ideally) to connect to the internet using the ICS features of XP. To this end I installed a wireless NIC in the desktop, and configured it in ad-hoc mode. I have created a the ad-hoc network, and both members of the network state that they are connected at 54Mbps, no problem there. However, even though subnet for both wireless adapters is 255.255.255.0 and they are set to manually use IP addresses of 192.168.0.1 and 192.168.0.2 respectively, and I can happily ping localhost or the 'local' wireless adapter, I cannot ping the other computer across the ad-hoc network. Any suggestions? Thank you kindly, Elliott.
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