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Author
13 Jul 2006 1:27 AM
matt
Does anyone know how to get the wireless driver to load on Windows boot
vs user logon? I am trying to remote desktop to a WiFi PC but can not
connect if I am not logged onto it first because the PC does not show
up on the LAN until you logon to a user. This defeats the whole point.
The WiFi driver does not load and the PC does not log onto the LAN
until you log on as a user. Any ideas to set the driver as a Windows
service?

Author
13 Jul 2006 4:43 PM
Jack (MVP-Networking).
Hi
I do not think that there is a connection between drivers load on and
logging to Network, if you have an active wireless card the drivers would
load on boot.
May be you would like to describe better your system, and what is Network
log On and what is that need to be loaded.
Jack (MVP-Networking).

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> Does anyone know how to get the wireless driver to load on Windows boot
> vs user logon? I am trying to remote desktop to a WiFi PC but can not
> connect if I am not logged onto it first because the PC does not show
> up on the LAN until you logon to a user. This defeats the whole point.
> The WiFi driver does not load and the PC does not log onto the LAN
> until you log on as a user. Any ideas to set the driver as a Windows
> service?
>
Author
13 Jul 2006 10:16 PM
matt
1 Windows XP computer with a Belkin Wireless G Desktop Card - PCI

The computer does not show up on the LAN until after you log onto a
Windows user account and the wireless configuration utility loads
therefore we can not share files on that computer or remote desktop
into that PC unless a user is logged in. I am not sure how much more
descriptive I can be about this problem it is a fairly easy problem to
explain and very comon from what I have heard and seen.
Author
14 Jul 2006 1:59 AM
Jack (MVP-Networking).
Hi
You can log the user in automatically by downloading and installing TweakUI.
The logon tab put the user name and pw.
This page in the middle,
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/downloads/powertoys/xppowertoys.mspx
Jack (MVP-Networking).

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>1 Windows XP computer with a Belkin Wireless G Desktop Card - PCI
>
> The computer does not show up on the LAN until after you log onto a
> Windows user account and the wireless configuration utility loads
> therefore we can not share files on that computer or remote desktop
> into that PC unless a user is logged in. I am not sure how much more
> descriptive I can be about this problem it is a fairly easy problem to
> explain and very comon from what I have heard and seen.
>
Author
17 Jul 2006 2:56 AM
matt
That would fix part of the problem but when we log onto the computer
via Remote Desktop it logs the user off which kills the LAN connection
and hence our main problem.
Author
28 Jul 2006 5:56 PM
matt
No one has a clue?
Author
28 Jul 2006 7:01 PM
Cleve S.
Matt,

I guess all the other lurkers were waiting for somebody else to give you the
news that it should work.

I have about 15 wireless WinXP SP2 workstations.  Half  have Linksys WMP54G
cards running 802.11g.  The other half have Belkin cards.  They connect when
booted, Remote Desktop works fine.  I reboot the workstations nightly and
they always get the updates from WSUS.  One AP is a Cisco Aironet 1100, the
other is a Linksys WAP54G.  The security is WPA with a pre-shared key, for
now.  The only problem I've had is the wireless workstations are slow to
install software deployed via GP.  Oh, sometimes a workstation will loose
the conection & require a reboot, but the wireless network will go for weeks
without that happening.

I know I haven't provided any solutions, other than to say it worked for me
with no problems right out of the box.

Cleve

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Author
29 Jul 2006 9:40 PM
matt
Cleve,

Thank you. The PC with the problem has a Belkin PCI wireless card. Now
you are saying that your Belkin wireless cards load the wireless
drivers and connect to the router/ show up on the LAN even with the PC
at the logon screen?

Matt
Author
31 Jul 2006 5:49 PM
Cleve S.
Matt,

Yes, the PCs with Belkin cards connect to the Cisco AP and I can browse to
them before anyone logs on.  I confirmed it before my original posting.

Cleve

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> Cleve,
>
> Thank you. The PC with the problem has a Belkin PCI wireless card. Now
> you are saying that your Belkin wireless cards load the wireless
> drivers and connect to the router/ show up on the LAN even with the PC
> at the logon screen?
>
> Matt
>
Author
12 Aug 2006 1:16 PM
thomas
Hi,
I have the same problem with the Toshiba Satellite L100-141 notebook with
Wireless b/g card in it. It disconnects just from my WLAN just after a user
logs out. If it boots up it does not connect neither, so no one is able to
connect to our NetWare network directly using this notebook

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"m***@mfactortech.com" wrote:

> Does anyone know how to get the wireless driver to load on Windows boot
> vs user logon? I am trying to remote desktop to a WiFi PC but can not
> connect if I am not logged onto it first because the PC does not show
> up on the LAN until you logon to a user. This defeats the whole point.
> The WiFi driver does not load and the PC does not log onto the LAN
> until you log on as a user. Any ideas to set the driver as a Windows
> service?
>
>
Author
10 Sep 2006 10:43 PM
Allen
I have discovered that the PROSet/Wireless Software 10.1.1.3 does support
initiating a WiFi connection at boot up.  It's called Persistent connection
and can be created with the Administrator tool.  The downside to persistent
connection is that it is temporarily dropped when a user logs in and thus
switches to their WiFi profile.

There is also a Pre-logon/Common connection support which if I understand
the documentation will maintain the Persistent connection throughout
login/logout.  But disables the Multi-User Icon based Welcome/Login screen
and forces the use of the dialog box prompt login screen where each user has
to enter there user id.  Something about security, domains and fast user
switching.

Windows XP Pro

Intel RRO/Wireless 2915ABG

Intel PROSet/Wireless Software 10.1.1.3





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> Hi,
> I have the same problem with the Toshiba Satellite L100-141 notebook with
> Wireless b/g card in it. It disconnects just from my WLAN just after a
> user
> logs out. If it boots up it does not connect neither, so no one is able to
> connect to our NetWare network directly using this notebook
>
> "m***@mfactortech.com" wrote:
>
>> Does anyone know how to get the wireless driver to load on Windows boot
>> vs user logon? I am trying to remote desktop to a WiFi PC but can not
>> connect if I am not logged onto it first because the PC does not show
>> up on the LAN until you logon to a user. This defeats the whole point.
>> The WiFi driver does not load and the PC does not log onto the LAN
>> until you log on as a user. Any ideas to set the driver as a Windows
>> service?
>>
>>
Author
11 Sep 2006 3:29 AM
Allen
Here's how I achieved ability to establish wireless connection at boot up
without need for a user to login.

Install/Add the Intel® PROSet/Wireless Administrator Tool option (see Intel®
PROSet/Wireless help Administrator section for instructions).

Use the Intel® PROSet/Wireless Administration Tool to create and apply a new
"package" containing both Persistent and Pre-Login/Common Profile.

The above profile will be used to establish a wireless connection when no
user(s) are logged on and will also be available to all users (common).
However the wireless connection will be interrupted during user login and
logout due to switching between the Persistent profile and a user's profile
(even if the persistent/common profile is used by the user).

To prevent the wireless connection from being interrupted during user
login/logout, Install/Add the Intel® PROSet/Wireless Pre-Logon option (see
Intel® PROSet/Wireless help Administrator section for instructions) and
restart computer.

The Pre-Logon option will disable the Windows Welcome GUI Login Screen and
Fast User Switching.  To restore these features delete this registry key and
restart computer.  WARNING, If you don't know what you are doing then don't
do this.  Registry backup is always recommended before editing the registry.
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\Winlogon
GinaDLL REG_SZ IWPDGINA.DLL

Login as a user with administrator privileges and open 'User Accounts' from
'Control' panel and select 'Change the way users log on or off'.

Now the wireless network connection should established during boot up and
should not be interrupted during user login/logout and the Windows Welcome
GUI Login and Fast User Switch features remain available.

Windows XP Pro / Home
Intel RRO/Wireless 2915ABG
Intel PROSet/Wireless Software 10.1.1.3


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"Allen" <N***@NOYB.org> wrote in message
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>I have discovered that the PROSet/Wireless Software 10.1.1.3 does support
>initiating a WiFi connection at boot up.  It's called Persistent connection
>and can be created with the Administrator tool.  The downside to persistent
>connection is that it is temporarily dropped when a user logs in and thus
>switches to their WiFi profile.
>
> There is also a Pre-logon/Common connection support which if I understand
> the documentation will maintain the Persistent connection throughout
> login/logout.  But disables the Multi-User Icon based Welcome/Login screen
> and forces the use of the dialog box prompt login screen where each user
> has to enter there user id.  Something about security, domains and fast
> user switching.
>
> Windows XP Pro
>
> Intel RRO/Wireless 2915ABG
>
> Intel PROSet/Wireless Software 10.1.1.3
>
>
>
>
>
> "thomas" <tho***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:7D157FEE-887E-42C0-8AB6-D731D8FB4429@microsoft.com...
>> Hi,
>> I have the same problem with the Toshiba Satellite L100-141 notebook with
>> Wireless b/g card in it. It disconnects just from my WLAN just after a
>> user
>> logs out. If it boots up it does not connect neither, so no one is able
>> to
>> connect to our NetWare network directly using this notebook
>>
>> "m***@mfactortech.com" wrote:
>>
>>> Does anyone know how to get the wireless driver to load on Windows boot
>>> vs user logon? I am trying to remote desktop to a WiFi PC but can not
>>> connect if I am not logged onto it first because the PC does not show
>>> up on the LAN until you logon to a user. This defeats the whole point.
>>> The WiFi driver does not load and the PC does not log onto the LAN
>>> until you log on as a user. Any ideas to set the driver as a Windows
>>> service?
>>>
>>>
>
>