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Author
24 Jul 2006 3:15 AM
T rumble
My wireless network works just fine when I turn on my machine or reboot, but
then stops connecting about 10 minutes to 1/2 hours afterward. The signal
stength is always and everythings looks OK. I've tried reinstalling and
updating the drivers, switching PCI ports, etc. Didn't help. Does anyone have
a suggestion?

Thank you!

Author
24 Jul 2006 5:28 AM
Diamontina Cocktail
"T rumble" <Trum***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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> My wireless network works just fine when I turn on my machine or reboot,
> but
> then stops connecting about 10 minutes to 1/2 hours afterward. The signal
> stength is always and everythings looks OK. I've tried reinstalling and
> updating the drivers, switching PCI ports, etc. Didn't help. Does anyone
> have
> a suggestion?
>
> Thank you!

Go to System Properties and make sure that the option to turn off the device
when not in use is NOT ticked. This is more than likely it.

Any firewalls there? If so, turn them off and see if it makes a difference.

Any other wi-fi networks nearby and using the same channel as you? If so,
change the channel to a free one at your router.

Did you install encryption? If not, do so. Someone within range may be
causing this.

Have you done a "Real Estate Agent" on the machine yet? That means looking
at "Location, location, location"! Eg, is something nearby with a similar
frequency such as the base station to a wireless phone set? Is there a
microwave nearby? TV? Radio? Something else?
Author
24 Jul 2006 3:34 PM
Rich
On Mon, 24 Jul 2006 15:28:18 +1000, "Diamontina Cocktail"
<l**@australia.com> wrote:

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>
>"T rumble" <Trum***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>news:70EC7E72-7EF2-411B-85AA-E7E60661DAA9@microsoft.com...
>> My wireless network works just fine when I turn on my machine or reboot,
>> but
>> then stops connecting about 10 minutes to 1/2 hours afterward. The signal
>> stength is always and everythings looks OK. I've tried reinstalling and
>> updating the drivers, switching PCI ports, etc. Didn't help. Does anyone
>> have
>> a suggestion?
>>
>> Thank you!
>
>Go to System Properties and make sure that the option to turn off the device
>when not in use is NOT ticked. This is more than likely it.

> (snip)

i've seen this advice several times and can't figure out where to
look.

the laptop here is a dell d810 with a built-in intell PRO/Wireless
2200BG mini-card.  the wireless router is a US Robotics Wireless MaxG
Router fed by a ZyXel P660-R DSL modem.  zero problems with the
desktop's wired connection to the router and no problems with the LT's
wireless connection to the router until i close the lid on the LT,
wait a bit and then open the lid.

when i close the lid on my dell laptop the pc goes into stand-by mode.
when i raise the lid thereby coming out of standby mode i frequently
have to re-boot the LT in order to re-establish the wi-fi connection
with my home network.  i have 'corrected' this problem by not putting
the LT into standby mode when the lid is closed.  since i've done this
the LT has never once lost the wi-fi connection to the router.   that
addresses the symptom, not the root problem. 

i've done the following:

CONTROL PANEL
SYSTEM
HARDWARE
DEVICE MANAGER
NETWORK ADAPTERS
right clicked on the intel wireless adaptor, then PROPERTIES
ADVANCED
scrolled down to POWER MANAGEMENT

the ONLY option for power management of the card is the balance
between power consumption and adapter performance.  nothing about
shutting down power when on standby mode.

seems like i'm looking in the wrong place.  can somebody set me
straight?

73,
rich, n9dko
Author
24 Jul 2006 4:56 PM
Lem
Rich wrote:
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> On Mon, 24 Jul 2006 15:28:18 +1000, "Diamontina Cocktail"
> <l**@australia.com> wrote:
>
>> "T rumble" <Trum***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:70EC7E72-7EF2-411B-85AA-E7E60661DAA9@microsoft.com...
>>> My wireless network works just fine when I turn on my machine or reboot,
>>> but
>>> then stops connecting about 10 minutes to 1/2 hours afterward. The signal
>>> stength is always and everythings looks OK. I've tried reinstalling and
>>> updating the drivers, switching PCI ports, etc. Didn't help. Does anyone
>>> have
>>> a suggestion?
>>>
>>> Thank you!
>> Go to System Properties and make sure that the option to turn off the device
>> when not in use is NOT ticked. This is more than likely it.
>
>> (snip)
>
> i've seen this advice several times and can't figure out where to
> look.
>
> the laptop here is a dell d810 with a built-in intell PRO/Wireless
> 2200BG mini-card.  the wireless router is a US Robotics Wireless MaxG
> Router fed by a ZyXel P660-R DSL modem.  zero problems with the
> desktop's wired connection to the router and no problems with the LT's
> wireless connection to the router until i close the lid on the LT,
> wait a bit and then open the lid.
>
> when i close the lid on my dell laptop the pc goes into stand-by mode.
> when i raise the lid thereby coming out of standby mode i frequently
> have to re-boot the LT in order to re-establish the wi-fi connection
> with my home network.  i have 'corrected' this problem by not putting
> the LT into standby mode when the lid is closed.  since i've done this
> the LT has never once lost the wi-fi connection to the router.   that
> addresses the symptom, not the root problem. 
>
> i've done the following:
>
> CONTROL PANEL
> SYSTEM
> HARDWARE
> DEVICE MANAGER
> NETWORK ADAPTERS
> right clicked on the intel wireless adaptor, then PROPERTIES
> ADVANCED
> scrolled down to POWER MANAGEMENT
>
> the ONLY option for power management of the card is the balance
> between power consumption and adapter performance.  nothing about
> shutting down power when on standby mode.
>
> seems like i'm looking in the wrong place.  can somebody set me
> straight?
>
> 73,
> rich, n9dko
>

You're looking in the right place, and I'm surprised that there is no
power management option there.  Perhaps you're using some generic
Windows driver rather than the Intel driver, or perhaps you should
(temporarily, if you like) switch to using the Intel configuration
software instead of Windows WZC.  See User's Guides at
http://support.intel.com/support/wireless/wlan/pro2200bg/sb/cs-008179.htm
Author
24 Jul 2006 11:29 PM
Rich
On Mon, 24 Jul 2006 12:56:48 -0400, Lem <lem***@hotmail.com> wrote:

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>Rich wrote:
>> On Mon, 24 Jul 2006 15:28:18 +1000, "Diamontina Cocktail"
>> <l**@australia.com> wrote:
>>
>>> "T rumble" <Trum***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>>> news:70EC7E72-7EF2-411B-85AA-E7E60661DAA9@microsoft.com...
>>>> My wireless network works just fine when I turn on my machine or reboot,
>>>> but
>>>> then stops connecting about 10 minutes to 1/2 hours afterward. The signal
>>>> stength is always and everythings looks OK. I've tried reinstalling and
>>>> updating the drivers, switching PCI ports, etc. Didn't help. Does anyone
>>>> have
>>>> a suggestion?
>>>>
>>>> Thank you!
>>> Go to System Properties and make sure that the option to turn off the device
>>> when not in use is NOT ticked. This is more than likely it.
>>
>>> (snip)
>>
>> i've seen this advice several times and can't figure out where to
>> look.
>>
>> the laptop here is a dell d810 with a built-in intell PRO/Wireless
>> 2200BG mini-card.  the wireless router is a US Robotics Wireless MaxG
>> Router fed by a ZyXel P660-R DSL modem.  zero problems with the
>> desktop's wired connection to the router and no problems with the LT's
>> wireless connection to the router until i close the lid on the LT,
>> wait a bit and then open the lid.
>>
>> when i close the lid on my dell laptop the pc goes into stand-by mode.
>> when i raise the lid thereby coming out of standby mode i frequently
>> have to re-boot the LT in order to re-establish the wi-fi connection
>> with my home network.  i have 'corrected' this problem by not putting
>> the LT into standby mode when the lid is closed.  since i've done this
>> the LT has never once lost the wi-fi connection to the router.   that
>> addresses the symptom, not the root problem. 
>>
>> i've done the following:
>>
>> CONTROL PANEL
>> SYSTEM
>> HARDWARE
>> DEVICE MANAGER
>> NETWORK ADAPTERS
>> right clicked on the intel wireless adaptor, then PROPERTIES
>> ADVANCED
>> scrolled down to POWER MANAGEMENT
>>
>> the ONLY option for power management of the card is the balance
>> between power consumption and adapter performance.  nothing about
>> shutting down power when on standby mode.
>>
>> seems like i'm looking in the wrong place.  can somebody set me
>> straight?
>>
>> 73,
>> rich, n9dko
>>
>
>You're looking in the right place, and I'm surprised that there is no
>power management option there.  Perhaps you're using some generic
>Windows driver rather than the Intel driver, or perhaps you should
>(temporarily, if you like) switch to using the Intel configuration
>software instead of Windows WZC.  See User's Guides at
>http://support.intel.com/support/wireless/wlan/pro2200bg/sb/cs-008179.htm

tried your suggestion, lem.  disabled widows management of the
wireless card and enabled intel management.  i have v 9.0.0.1. ran
their management softwate and went to

TOOLS
ADAPTER SETTINGS

and got the exact same options as before...the only power option was
the balance between power consumption and adapter performance.
scanned the intel document and found nothing about keeping the card
powered up at all times. 

so...i changed my system's power config to go to standby when the lid
is closed.  i closed the lid and waited several hours.  when i opened
the lid the intel connection icon showed that i was connected but i
had no internet connectivity.  had to re-boot to re-establish that.

it's clear, to me anyway, that the issue is the LT going into standby
mode.  if i prevent that from happening then there are no connectivity
issues.  i don't often run the LT on battery so never going into
standby mode isn't a hardship but i sure would like to solve this
problem if for no other reason than to understand why this is
happening.

i appreciate your help.

73,
rich, n9dko
Author
25 Jul 2006 12:53 PM
Diamontina Cocktail
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"Lem" <lem***@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Rich wrote:
>> On Mon, 24 Jul 2006 15:28:18 +1000, "Diamontina Cocktail"
>> <l**@australia.com> wrote:
>>
>>> "T rumble" <Trum***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>>> news:70EC7E72-7EF2-411B-85AA-E7E60661DAA9@microsoft.com...
>>>> My wireless network works just fine when I turn on my machine or
>>>> reboot, but
>>>> then stops connecting about 10 minutes to 1/2 hours afterward. The
>>>> signal
>>>> stength is always and everythings looks OK. I've tried reinstalling and
>>>> updating the drivers, switching PCI ports, etc. Didn't help. Does
>>>> anyone have
>>>> a suggestion?
>>>>
>>>> Thank you!
>>> Go to System Properties and make sure that the option to turn off the
>>> device when not in use is NOT ticked. This is more than likely it.
>>
>>> (snip)
>>
>> i've seen this advice several times and can't figure out where to
>> look. the laptop here is a dell d810 with a built-in intell PRO/Wireless
>> 2200BG mini-card.  the wireless router is a US Robotics Wireless MaxG
>> Router fed by a ZyXel P660-R DSL modem.  zero problems with the
>> desktop's wired connection to the router and no problems with the LT's
>> wireless connection to the router until i close the lid on the LT,
>> wait a bit and then open the lid.
>>
>> when i close the lid on my dell laptop the pc goes into stand-by mode.
>> when i raise the lid thereby coming out of standby mode i frequently
>> have to re-boot the LT in order to re-establish the wi-fi connection
>> with my home network.  i have 'corrected' this problem by not putting
>> the LT into standby mode when the lid is closed.  since i've done this
>> the LT has never once lost the wi-fi connection to the router.   that
>> addresses the symptom, not the root problem.  i've done the following:
>>
>> CONTROL PANEL
>> SYSTEM
>> HARDWARE
>> DEVICE MANAGER
>> NETWORK ADAPTERS
>> right clicked on the intel wireless adaptor, then PROPERTIES
>> ADVANCED
>> scrolled down to POWER MANAGEMENT
>>
>> the ONLY option for power management of the card is the balance
>> between power consumption and adapter performance.  nothing about
>> shutting down power when on standby mode.
>>
>> seems like i'm looking in the wrong place.  can somebody set me
>> straight?
>>
>> 73,
>> rich, n9dko
>>
>
> You're looking in the right place, and I'm surprised that there is no
> power management option there.

It's actually quite a common thing. A lot of non-PCI cards DON'T allow power
options and I don't know of ANY USB wi-fi NIC that allows power, either.
Author
25 Jul 2006 12:51 PM
Diamontina Cocktail
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"Rich" <r***@donotsendmeemail.com> wrote in message
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> On Mon, 24 Jul 2006 15:28:18 +1000, "Diamontina Cocktail"
> <l**@australia.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>"T rumble" <Trum***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>>news:70EC7E72-7EF2-411B-85AA-E7E60661DAA9@microsoft.com...
>>> My wireless network works just fine when I turn on my machine or reboot,
>>> but
>>> then stops connecting about 10 minutes to 1/2 hours afterward. The
>>> signal
>>> stength is always and everythings looks OK. I've tried reinstalling and
>>> updating the drivers, switching PCI ports, etc. Didn't help. Does anyone
>>> have
>>> a suggestion?
>>>
>>> Thank you!
>>
>>Go to System Properties and make sure that the option to turn off the
>>device
>>when not in use is NOT ticked. This is more than likely it.
>
>> (snip)
>
> i've seen this advice several times and can't figure out where to
> look.
>

Open Control Panel, System Properties then click on the Hardware tab then
the Device Manager button. When that comes up, go to the Network Adapters
section, click on the + sign then right click on the one for your wireless
NIC. Now go to properties and when that comes up there SHOULD be a tab with
"power management" on it. It will be under there. If there is no tab there,
which can be the case, then dont worry about it.

> the laptop here is a dell d810 with a built-in intell PRO/Wireless
> 2200BG mini-card.  the wireless router is a US Robotics Wireless MaxG
> Router fed by a ZyXel P660-R DSL modem.  zero problems with the
> desktop's wired connection to the router and no problems with the LT's
> wireless connection to the router until i close the lid on the LT,
> wait a bit and then open the lid.
>
> when i close the lid on my dell laptop the pc goes into stand-by mode.

Never a good idea to use stand-by or hibernate for any reason with XP. If
there is a scrambling of hibersys for example, you cant boot the machine
again until you delete that file and if you arent literate enough, that
means paying someone to do it. Turn them off in the power options.

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> when i raise the lid thereby coming out of standby mode i frequently
> have to re-boot the LT in order to re-establish the wi-fi connection
> with my home network.  i have 'corrected' this problem by not putting
> the LT into standby mode when the lid is closed.  since i've done this
> the LT has never once lost the wi-fi connection to the router.   that
> addresses the symptom, not the root problem.
>
> i've done the following:
>
> CONTROL PANEL
> SYSTEM
> HARDWARE
> DEVICE MANAGER
> NETWORK ADAPTERS
> right clicked on the intel wireless adaptor, then PROPERTIES
> ADVANCED
> scrolled down to POWER MANAGEMENT
>
> the ONLY option for power management of the card is the balance
> between power consumption and adapter performance.  nothing about
> shutting down power when on standby mode.

OK then put it in the position that consumes the most power, dont allow
hibernate and as you have done, dont allow standby.
Author
25 Jul 2006 2:50 PM
Rich
On Tue, 25 Jul 2006 22:51:56 +1000, "Diamontina Cocktail"
<l**@australia.com> wrote:

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>
>"Rich" <r***@donotsendmeemail.com> wrote in message
>news:9ap9c2pnaj75qkmb3rfq9g02qo08ua8pdf@4ax.com...
>> On Mon, 24 Jul 2006 15:28:18 +1000, "Diamontina Cocktail"
>> <l**@australia.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>"T rumble" <Trum***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>>>news:70EC7E72-7EF2-411B-85AA-E7E60661DAA9@microsoft.com...
>>>> My wireless network works just fine when I turn on my machine or reboot,
>>>> but
>>>> then stops connecting about 10 minutes to 1/2 hours afterward. The
>>>> signal
>>>> stength is always and everythings looks OK. I've tried reinstalling and
>>>> updating the drivers, switching PCI ports, etc. Didn't help. Does anyone
>>>> have
>>>> a suggestion?
>>>>
>>>> Thank you!
>>>
>>>Go to System Properties and make sure that the option to turn off the
>>>device
>>>when not in use is NOT ticked. This is more than likely it.
>>
>>> (snip)
>>
>> i've seen this advice several times and can't figure out where to
>> look.
>>
>
>Open Control Panel, System Properties then click on the Hardware tab then
>the Device Manager button. When that comes up, go to the Network Adapters
>section, click on the + sign then right click on the one for your wireless
>NIC. Now go to properties and when that comes up there SHOULD be a tab with
>"power management" on it. It will be under there. If there is no tab there,
>which can be the case, then dont worry about it.

yup.  that's what i did before posting.  the only power option is as i
described.

>> the laptop here is a dell d810 with a built-in intell PRO/Wireless
>> 2200BG mini-card.  the wireless router is a US Robotics Wireless MaxG
>> Router fed by a ZyXel P660-R DSL modem.  zero problems with the
>> desktop's wired connection to the router and no problems with the LT's
>> wireless connection to the router until i close the lid on the LT,
>> wait a bit and then open the lid.
>>
>> when i close the lid on my dell laptop the pc goes into stand-by mode.
>
>Never a good idea to use stand-by or hibernate for any reason with XP. If
>there is a scrambling of hibersys for example, you cant boot the machine
>again until you delete that file and if you arent literate enough, that
>means paying someone to do it. Turn them off in the power options.

i'm literate enough to deal with that should it happen but thanks for
the tip.

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>
>> when i raise the lid thereby coming out of standby mode i frequently
>> have to re-boot the LT in order to re-establish the wi-fi connection
>> with my home network.  i have 'corrected' this problem by not putting
>> the LT into standby mode when the lid is closed.  since i've done this
>> the LT has never once lost the wi-fi connection to the router.   that
>> addresses the symptom, not the root problem.
>>
>> i've done the following:
>>
>> CONTROL PANEL
>> SYSTEM
>> HARDWARE
>> DEVICE MANAGER
>> NETWORK ADAPTERS
>> right clicked on the intel wireless adaptor, then PROPERTIES
>> ADVANCED
>> scrolled down to POWER MANAGEMENT
>>
>> the ONLY option for power management of the card is the balance
>> between power consumption and adapter performance.  nothing about
>> shutting down power when on standby mode.
>
>OK then put it in the position that consumes the most power, dont allow
>hibernate and as you have done, dont allow standby.
>
>
not allowing standby would seem to be the only option to ensure the LT
doesn't lose connectivity.  oh, well.  thanks to those who
replied...appreciate the effort.

73,
rich, n9dko
Author
25 Jul 2006 3:26 PM
Lem
Rich wrote:
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> On Tue, 25 Jul 2006 22:51:56 +1000, "Diamontina Cocktail"
> <l**@australia.com> wrote:
>
>> "Rich" <r***@donotsendmeemail.com> wrote in message
>> news:9ap9c2pnaj75qkmb3rfq9g02qo08ua8pdf@4ax.com...
>>> On Mon, 24 Jul 2006 15:28:18 +1000, "Diamontina Cocktail"
>>> <l**@australia.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> "T rumble" <Trum***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:70EC7E72-7EF2-411B-85AA-E7E60661DAA9@microsoft.com...
>>>>> My wireless network works just fine when I turn on my machine or reboot,
>>>>> but
>>>>> then stops connecting about 10 minutes to 1/2 hours afterward. The
>>>>> signal
>>>>> stength is always and everythings looks OK. I've tried reinstalling and
>>>>> updating the drivers, switching PCI ports, etc. Didn't help. Does anyone
>>>>> have
>>>>> a suggestion?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thank you!
>>>> Go to System Properties and make sure that the option to turn off the
>>>> device
>>>> when not in use is NOT ticked. This is more than likely it.
>>>> (snip)
>>> i've seen this advice several times and can't figure out where to
>>> look.
>>>
>> Open Control Panel, System Properties then click on the Hardware tab then
>> the Device Manager button. When that comes up, go to the Network Adapters
>> section, click on the + sign then right click on the one for your wireless
>> NIC. Now go to properties and when that comes up there SHOULD be a tab with
>> "power management" on it. It will be under there. If there is no tab there,
>> which can be the case, then dont worry about it.
>
> yup.  that's what i did before posting.  the only power option is as i
> described.
>
>>> the laptop here is a dell d810 with a built-in intell PRO/Wireless
>>> 2200BG mini-card.  the wireless router is a US Robotics Wireless MaxG
>>> Router fed by a ZyXel P660-R DSL modem.  zero problems with the
>>> desktop's wired connection to the router and no problems with the LT's
>>> wireless connection to the router until i close the lid on the LT,
>>> wait a bit and then open the lid.
>>>
>>> when i close the lid on my dell laptop the pc goes into stand-by mode.
>> Never a good idea to use stand-by or hibernate for any reason with XP. If
>> there is a scrambling of hibersys for example, you cant boot the machine
>> again until you delete that file and if you arent literate enough, that
>> means paying someone to do it. Turn them off in the power options.
>
> i'm literate enough to deal with that should it happen but thanks for
> the tip.
>
>>> when i raise the lid thereby coming out of standby mode i frequently
>>> have to re-boot the LT in order to re-establish the wi-fi connection
>>> with my home network.  i have 'corrected' this problem by not putting
>>> the LT into standby mode when the lid is closed.  since i've done this
>>> the LT has never once lost the wi-fi connection to the router.   that
>>> addresses the symptom, not the root problem.
>>>
>>> i've done the following:
>>>
>>> CONTROL PANEL
>>> SYSTEM
>>> HARDWARE
>>> DEVICE MANAGER
>>> NETWORK ADAPTERS
>>> right clicked on the intel wireless adaptor, then PROPERTIES
>>> ADVANCED
>>> scrolled down to POWER MANAGEMENT
>>>
>>> the ONLY option for power management of the card is the balance
>>> between power consumption and adapter performance.  nothing about
>>> shutting down power when on standby mode.
>> OK then put it in the position that consumes the most power, dont allow
>> hibernate and as you have done, dont allow standby.
>>
>>
> not allowing standby would seem to be the only option to ensure the LT
> doesn't lose connectivity.  oh, well.  thanks to those who
> replied...appreciate the effort.
>
> 73,
> rich, n9dko
One last thing, Rich.

The Intel PRO/Wireless 2200BG mini-card (which, Diamontina, is neither a
"non-PCI card" nor a "USB wi-fi NIC") ought to have some sort of power
management available through the Intel management software.

From what you describe, it seems as if you may not be using the latest
and greatest Intel software.  For example, from the manual for v. 9.0 of
the Intel ProSet Wireless User's guide:

"Power Management: Allows you to select a balance between power
consumption and adapter performance. The wireless adapter power settings
slider sets a balance between the computer's power source and the battery."

That sounds like what you described.  You might get the desired result
from pushing the slider all the way to max performance, but there
doesn't seem to be any explicit setting to keep it on all the time.

However, from the manual from v. 10, after the bit about the slider:

Select a balance between power consumption and adapter
performance.
PSP - Power Saving Mode
CAM - Constantly Awake Mode
Select one of the Power Saving Mode levels:
PSP CAM: The client adapter is powered up
continuously.
PSP Level 1: PSP set at maximum power.
PSP Levels 2-4: PSP set to maximize power.
PSP Level 5: PSP set to maximize battery life.
PSP Auto: Default in PSP Level 6: Balances
between power consumption and battery life.

73,
Lem, ex-K2MHQ
Author
25 Jul 2006 11:20 PM
Rich
On Tue, 25 Jul 2006 11:26:58 -0400, Lem <lem***@hotmail.com> wrote:

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>Rich wrote:
>> On Tue, 25 Jul 2006 22:51:56 +1000, "Diamontina Cocktail"
>> <l**@australia.com> wrote:
>>
>>> "Rich" <r***@donotsendmeemail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:9ap9c2pnaj75qkmb3rfq9g02qo08ua8pdf@4ax.com...
>>>> On Mon, 24 Jul 2006 15:28:18 +1000, "Diamontina Cocktail"
>>>> <l**@australia.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> "T rumble" <Trum***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:70EC7E72-7EF2-411B-85AA-E7E60661DAA9@microsoft.com...
>>>>>> My wireless network works just fine when I turn on my machine or reboot,
>>>>>> but
>>>>>> then stops connecting about 10 minutes to 1/2 hours afterward. The
>>>>>> signal
>>>>>> stength is always and everythings looks OK. I've tried reinstalling and
>>>>>> updating the drivers, switching PCI ports, etc. Didn't help. Does anyone
>>>>>> have
>>>>>> a suggestion?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thank you!
>>>>> Go to System Properties and make sure that the option to turn off the
>>>>> device
>>>>> when not in use is NOT ticked. This is more than likely it.
>>>>> (snip)
>>>> i've seen this advice several times and can't figure out where to
>>>> look.
>>>>
>>> Open Control Panel, System Properties then click on the Hardware tab then
>>> the Device Manager button. When that comes up, go to the Network Adapters
>>> section, click on the + sign then right click on the one for your wireless
>>> NIC. Now go to properties and when that comes up there SHOULD be a tab with
>>> "power management" on it. It will be under there. If there is no tab there,
>>> which can be the case, then dont worry about it.
>>
>> yup.  that's what i did before posting.  the only power option is as i
>> described.
>>
>>>> the laptop here is a dell d810 with a built-in intell PRO/Wireless
>>>> 2200BG mini-card.  the wireless router is a US Robotics Wireless MaxG
>>>> Router fed by a ZyXel P660-R DSL modem.  zero problems with the
>>>> desktop's wired connection to the router and no problems with the LT's
>>>> wireless connection to the router until i close the lid on the LT,
>>>> wait a bit and then open the lid.
>>>>
>>>> when i close the lid on my dell laptop the pc goes into stand-by mode.
>>> Never a good idea to use stand-by or hibernate for any reason with XP. If
>>> there is a scrambling of hibersys for example, you cant boot the machine
>>> again until you delete that file and if you arent literate enough, that
>>> means paying someone to do it. Turn them off in the power options.
>>
>> i'm literate enough to deal with that should it happen but thanks for
>> the tip.
>>
>>>> when i raise the lid thereby coming out of standby mode i frequently
>>>> have to re-boot the LT in order to re-establish the wi-fi connection
>>>> with my home network.  i have 'corrected' this problem by not putting
>>>> the LT into standby mode when the lid is closed.  since i've done this
>>>> the LT has never once lost the wi-fi connection to the router.   that
>>>> addresses the symptom, not the root problem.
>>>>
>>>> i've done the following:
>>>>
>>>> CONTROL PANEL
>>>> SYSTEM
>>>> HARDWARE
>>>> DEVICE MANAGER
>>>> NETWORK ADAPTERS
>>>> right clicked on the intel wireless adaptor, then PROPERTIES
>>>> ADVANCED
>>>> scrolled down to POWER MANAGEMENT
>>>>
>>>> the ONLY option for power management of the card is the balance
>>>> between power consumption and adapter performance.  nothing about
>>>> shutting down power when on standby mode.
>>> OK then put it in the position that consumes the most power, dont allow
>>> hibernate and as you have done, dont allow standby.
>>>
>>>
>> not allowing standby would seem to be the only option to ensure the LT
>> doesn't lose connectivity.  oh, well.  thanks to those who
>> replied...appreciate the effort.
>>
>> 73,
>> rich, n9dko
>One last thing, Rich.
>
>The Intel PRO/Wireless 2200BG mini-card (which, Diamontina, is neither a
>"non-PCI card" nor a "USB wi-fi NIC") ought to have some sort of power
>management available through the Intel management software.
>
> From what you describe, it seems as if you may not be using the latest
>and greatest Intel software.  For example, from the manual for v. 9.0 of
>the Intel ProSet Wireless User's guide:
>
>"Power Management: Allows you to select a balance between power
>consumption and adapter performance. The wireless adapter power settings
>slider sets a balance between the computer's power source and the battery."
>
>That sounds like what you described.  You might get the desired result
>from pushing the slider all the way to max performance, but there
>doesn't seem to be any explicit setting to keep it on all the time.

yup, that's it.  it's already at the max setting.  i keep it there as
we travel in our camper a lot and use a lot of open, free, wi-fi hot
spots.

Show quoteHide quote
>However, from the manual from v. 10, after the bit about the slider:
>
>Select a balance between power consumption and adapter
>performance.
>PSP - Power Saving Mode
>CAM - Constantly Awake Mode
>Select one of the Power Saving Mode levels:
>PSP CAM: The client adapter is powered up
>continuously.
>PSP Level 1: PSP set at maximum power.
>PSP Levels 2-4: PSP set to maximize power.
>PSP Level 5: PSP set to maximize battery life.
>PSP Auto: Default in PSP Level 6: Balances
>between power consumption and battery life.
>
>73,
>Lem, ex-K2MHQ

first of all, you need to not be an ex-K2MHQ.  have you thought of
getting back in to ham?  ;o)

second, the V10 software seems to have what i need so i downloaded
it...all 128MB of it!  that's one big piece of software.  i've made my
usual pre-install image backup of the C:\ drive but before i push the
magic button i thought i'd ask if there is anything else to consider
before i do the upgrade.  anyone been thru the upgrade from v 9.x to
v10.x?

73,
rich, n9dko
Author
26 Jul 2006 5:30 AM
Diamontina Cocktail
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"Lem" <lem***@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:uFu$F7$rGHA.4652@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> Rich wrote:
>> On Tue, 25 Jul 2006 22:51:56 +1000, "Diamontina Cocktail"
>> <l**@australia.com> wrote:
>>
>>> "Rich" <r***@donotsendmeemail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:9ap9c2pnaj75qkmb3rfq9g02qo08ua8pdf@4ax.com...
>>>> On Mon, 24 Jul 2006 15:28:18 +1000, "Diamontina Cocktail"
>>>> <l**@australia.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> "T rumble" <Trum***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:70EC7E72-7EF2-411B-85AA-E7E60661DAA9@microsoft.com...
>>>>>> My wireless network works just fine when I turn on my machine or
>>>>>> reboot,
>>>>>> but
>>>>>> then stops connecting about 10 minutes to 1/2 hours afterward. The
>>>>>> signal
>>>>>> stength is always and everythings looks OK. I've tried reinstalling
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> updating the drivers, switching PCI ports, etc. Didn't help. Does
>>>>>> anyone
>>>>>> have
>>>>>> a suggestion?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thank you!
>>>>> Go to System Properties and make sure that the option to turn off the
>>>>> device
>>>>> when not in use is NOT ticked. This is more than likely it.
>>>>> (snip)
>>>> i've seen this advice several times and can't figure out where to
>>>> look.
>>>>
>>> Open Control Panel, System Properties then click on the Hardware tab
>>> then the Device Manager button. When that comes up, go to the Network
>>> Adapters section, click on the + sign then right click on the one for
>>> your wireless NIC. Now go to properties and when that comes up there
>>> SHOULD be a tab with "power management" on it. It will be under there.
>>> If there is no tab there, which can be the case, then dont worry about
>>> it.
>>
>> yup.  that's what i did before posting.  the only power option is as i
>> described.
>>
>>>> the laptop here is a dell d810 with a built-in intell PRO/Wireless
>>>> 2200BG mini-card.  the wireless router is a US Robotics Wireless MaxG
>>>> Router fed by a ZyXel P660-R DSL modem.  zero problems with the
>>>> desktop's wired connection to the router and no problems with the LT's
>>>> wireless connection to the router until i close the lid on the LT,
>>>> wait a bit and then open the lid.
>>>>
>>>> when i close the lid on my dell laptop the pc goes into stand-by mode.
>>> Never a good idea to use stand-by or hibernate for any reason with XP.
>>> If there is a scrambling of hibersys for example, you cant boot the
>>> machine again until you delete that file and if you arent literate
>>> enough, that means paying someone to do it. Turn them off in the power
>>> options.
>>
>> i'm literate enough to deal with that should it happen but thanks for
>> the tip.
>>
>>>> when i raise the lid thereby coming out of standby mode i frequently
>>>> have to re-boot the LT in order to re-establish the wi-fi connection
>>>> with my home network.  i have 'corrected' this problem by not putting
>>>> the LT into standby mode when the lid is closed.  since i've done this
>>>> the LT has never once lost the wi-fi connection to the router.   that
>>>> addresses the symptom, not the root problem.
>>>>
>>>> i've done the following:
>>>>
>>>> CONTROL PANEL
>>>> SYSTEM
>>>> HARDWARE
>>>> DEVICE MANAGER
>>>> NETWORK ADAPTERS
>>>> right clicked on the intel wireless adaptor, then PROPERTIES
>>>> ADVANCED
>>>> scrolled down to POWER MANAGEMENT
>>>>
>>>> the ONLY option for power management of the card is the balance
>>>> between power consumption and adapter performance.  nothing about
>>>> shutting down power when on standby mode.
>>> OK then put it in the position that consumes the most power, dont allow
>>> hibernate and as you have done, dont allow standby.
>>>
>>>
>> not allowing standby would seem to be the only option to ensure the LT
>> doesn't lose connectivity.  oh, well.  thanks to those who
>> replied...appreciate the effort.
>>
>> 73,
>> rich, n9dko
> One last thing, Rich.
>
> The Intel PRO/Wireless 2200BG mini-card (which, Diamontina, is neither a
> "non-PCI card" nor a "USB wi-fi NIC") ought to have some sort of power
> management available through the Intel management software.
>

As stated before, this is quite a common thing. You get used to seeing it
and no, it doesnt have to be JUST one of the above. It is a relatively
common thing with wi-fi appliances. Just in case you would like to know.
Author
8 Aug 2006 11:27 PM
Rich
On Tue, 25 Jul 2006 11:26:58 -0400, Lem <lem***@hotmail.com> wrote:

Show quoteHide quote
>Rich wrote:
>> On Tue, 25 Jul 2006 22:51:56 +1000, "Diamontina Cocktail"
>> <l**@australia.com> wrote:
>>
>>> "Rich" <r***@donotsendmeemail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:9ap9c2pnaj75qkmb3rfq9g02qo08ua8pdf@4ax.com...
>>>> On Mon, 24 Jul 2006 15:28:18 +1000, "Diamontina Cocktail"
>>>> <l**@australia.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> "T rumble" <Trum***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:70EC7E72-7EF2-411B-85AA-E7E60661DAA9@microsoft.com...
>>>>>> My wireless network works just fine when I turn on my machine or reboot,
>>>>>> but
>>>>>> then stops connecting about 10 minutes to 1/2 hours afterward. The
>>>>>> signal
>>>>>> stength is always and everythings looks OK. I've tried reinstalling and
>>>>>> updating the drivers, switching PCI ports, etc. Didn't help. Does anyone
>>>>>> have
>>>>>> a suggestion?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thank you!
>>>>> Go to System Properties and make sure that the option to turn off the
>>>>> device
>>>>> when not in use is NOT ticked. This is more than likely it.
>>>>> (snip)
>>>> i've seen this advice several times and can't figure out where to
>>>> look.
>>>>
>>> Open Control Panel, System Properties then click on the Hardware tab then
>>> the Device Manager button. When that comes up, go to the Network Adapters
>>> section, click on the + sign then right click on the one for your wireless
>>> NIC. Now go to properties and when that comes up there SHOULD be a tab with
>>> "power management" on it. It will be under there. If there is no tab there,
>>> which can be the case, then dont worry about it.
>>
>> yup.  that's what i did before posting.  the only power option is as i
>> described.
>>
>>>> the laptop here is a dell d810 with a built-in intell PRO/Wireless
>>>> 2200BG mini-card.  the wireless router is a US Robotics Wireless MaxG
>>>> Router fed by a ZyXel P660-R DSL modem.  zero problems with the
>>>> desktop's wired connection to the router and no problems with the LT's
>>>> wireless connection to the router until i close the lid on the LT,
>>>> wait a bit and then open the lid.
>>>>
>>>> when i close the lid on my dell laptop the pc goes into stand-by mode.
>>> Never a good idea to use stand-by or hibernate for any reason with XP. If
>>> there is a scrambling of hibersys for example, you cant boot the machine
>>> again until you delete that file and if you arent literate enough, that
>>> means paying someone to do it. Turn them off in the power options.
>>
>> i'm literate enough to deal with that should it happen but thanks for
>> the tip.
>>
>>>> when i raise the lid thereby coming out of standby mode i frequently
>>>> have to re-boot the LT in order to re-establish the wi-fi connection
>>>> with my home network.  i have 'corrected' this problem by not putting
>>>> the LT into standby mode when the lid is closed.  since i've done this
>>>> the LT has never once lost the wi-fi connection to the router.   that
>>>> addresses the symptom, not the root problem.
>>>>
>>>> i've done the following:
>>>>
>>>> CONTROL PANEL
>>>> SYSTEM
>>>> HARDWARE
>>>> DEVICE MANAGER
>>>> NETWORK ADAPTERS
>>>> right clicked on the intel wireless adaptor, then PROPERTIES
>>>> ADVANCED
>>>> scrolled down to POWER MANAGEMENT
>>>>
>>>> the ONLY option for power management of the card is the balance
>>>> between power consumption and adapter performance.  nothing about
>>>> shutting down power when on standby mode.
>>> OK then put it in the position that consumes the most power, dont allow
>>> hibernate and as you have done, dont allow standby.
>>>
>>>
>> not allowing standby would seem to be the only option to ensure the LT
>> doesn't lose connectivity.  oh, well.  thanks to those who
>> replied...appreciate the effort.
>>
>> 73,
>> rich, n9dko
>One last thing, Rich.
>
>The Intel PRO/Wireless 2200BG mini-card (which, Diamontina, is neither a
>"non-PCI card" nor a "USB wi-fi NIC") ought to have some sort of power
>management available through the Intel management software.
>
> From what you describe, it seems as if you may not be using the latest
>and greatest Intel software.  For example, from the manual for v. 9.0 of
>the Intel ProSet Wireless User's guide:
>
>"Power Management: Allows you to select a balance between power
>consumption and adapter performance. The wireless adapter power settings
>slider sets a balance between the computer's power source and the battery."
>
>That sounds like what you described.  You might get the desired result
>from pushing the slider all the way to max performance, but there
>doesn't seem to be any explicit setting to keep it on all the time.
>
>However, from the manual from v. 10, after the bit about the slider:
>
>Select a balance between power consumption and adapter
>performance.
>PSP - Power Saving Mode
>CAM - Constantly Awake Mode
>Select one of the Power Saving Mode levels:
>PSP CAM: The client adapter is powered up
>continuously.
>PSP Level 1: PSP set at maximum power.
>PSP Levels 2-4: PSP set to maximize power.
>PSP Level 5: PSP set to maximize battery life.
>PSP Auto: Default in PSP Level 6: Balances
>between power consumption and battery life.
>
>73,
>Lem, ex-K2MHQ

just wanted to give you an update, lem.  i downloaded and installed
proset wireless v10.x and was able to change the power management to
CAM.  now the laptop can go into standby mode without losing the
wireless connection. 

i've also noticed an interesting by-product of the upgrade.  the
laptop 'lives' in its docking station in the hamshack up on the 2nd
floor of the house.  prior to the upgrade none of the other
neighborhood wi-fi signals were detected by the laptop when it was
upstairs.  it did detect them downstairs in my office.  since the
upgrade the laptop is detecting those same neighborhood signals
upstairs. 

thanks for the help.

73,
rich, n9dko
Author
9 Aug 2006 5:31 PM
Lem
Rich wrote:
Show quoteHide quote
> On Tue, 25 Jul 2006 11:26:58 -0400, Lem <lem***@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Rich wrote:
>>> On Tue, 25 Jul 2006 22:51:56 +1000, "Diamontina Cocktail"
>>> <l**@australia.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> "Rich" <r***@donotsendmeemail.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:9ap9c2pnaj75qkmb3rfq9g02qo08ua8pdf@4ax.com...
>>>>> On Mon, 24 Jul 2006 15:28:18 +1000, "Diamontina Cocktail"
>>>>> <l**@australia.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> "T rumble" <Trum***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:70EC7E72-7EF2-411B-85AA-E7E60661DAA9@microsoft.com...
>>>>>>> My wireless network works just fine when I turn on my machine or reboot,
>>>>>>> but
>>>>>>> then stops connecting about 10 minutes to 1/2 hours afterward. The
>>>>>>> signal
>>>>>>> stength is always and everythings looks OK. I've tried reinstalling and
>>>>>>> updating the drivers, switching PCI ports, etc. Didn't help. Does anyone
>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>> a suggestion?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thank you!
>>>>>> Go to System Properties and make sure that the option to turn off the
>>>>>> device
>>>>>> when not in use is NOT ticked. This is more than likely it.
>>>>>> (snip)
>>>>> i've seen this advice several times and can't figure out where to
>>>>> look.
>>>>>
>>>> Open Control Panel, System Properties then click on the Hardware tab then
>>>> the Device Manager button. When that comes up, go to the Network Adapters
>>>> section, click on the + sign then right click on the one for your wireless
>>>> NIC. Now go to properties and when that comes up there SHOULD be a tab with
>>>> "power management" on it. It will be under there. If there is no tab there,
>>>> which can be the case, then dont worry about it.
>>> yup.  that's what i did before posting.  the only power option is as i
>>> described.
>>>
>>>>> the laptop here is a dell d810 with a built-in intell PRO/Wireless
>>>>> 2200BG mini-card.  the wireless router is a US Robotics Wireless MaxG
>>>>> Router fed by a ZyXel P660-R DSL modem.  zero problems with the
>>>>> desktop's wired connection to the router and no problems with the LT's
>>>>> wireless connection to the router until i close the lid on the LT,
>>>>> wait a bit and then open the lid.
>>>>>
>>>>> when i close the lid on my dell laptop the pc goes into stand-by mode.
>>>> Never a good idea to use stand-by or hibernate for any reason with XP. If
>>>> there is a scrambling of hibersys for example, you cant boot the machine
>>>> again until you delete that file and if you arent literate enough, that
>>>> means paying someone to do it. Turn them off in the power options.
>>> i'm literate enough to deal with that should it happen but thanks for
>>> the tip.
>>>
>>>>> when i raise the lid thereby coming out of standby mode i frequently
>>>>> have to re-boot the LT in order to re-establish the wi-fi connection
>>>>> with my home network.  i have 'corrected' this problem by not putting
>>>>> the LT into standby mode when the lid is closed.  since i've done this
>>>>> the LT has never once lost the wi-fi connection to the router.   that
>>>>> addresses the symptom, not the root problem.
>>>>>
>>>>> i've done the following:
>>>>>
>>>>> CONTROL PANEL
>>>>> SYSTEM
>>>>> HARDWARE
>>>>> DEVICE MANAGER
>>>>> NETWORK ADAPTERS
>>>>> right clicked on the intel wireless adaptor, then PROPERTIES
>>>>> ADVANCED
>>>>> scrolled down to POWER MANAGEMENT
>>>>>
>>>>> the ONLY option for power management of the card is the balance
>>>>> between power consumption and adapter performance.  nothing about
>>>>> shutting down power when on standby mode.
>>>> OK then put it in the position that consumes the most power, dont allow
>>>> hibernate and as you have done, dont allow standby.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> not allowing standby would seem to be the only option to ensure the LT
>>> doesn't lose connectivity.  oh, well.  thanks to those who
>>> replied...appreciate the effort.
>>>
>>> 73,
>>> rich, n9dko
>> One last thing, Rich.
>>
>> The Intel PRO/Wireless 2200BG mini-card (which, Diamontina, is neither a
>> "non-PCI card" nor a "USB wi-fi NIC") ought to have some sort of power
>> management available through the Intel management software.
>>
>> From what you describe, it seems as if you may not be using the latest
>> and greatest Intel software.  For example, from the manual for v. 9.0 of
>> the Intel ProSet Wireless User's guide:
>>
>> "Power Management: Allows you to select a balance between power
>> consumption and adapter performance. The wireless adapter power settings
>> slider sets a balance between the computer's power source and the battery."
>>
>> That sounds like what you described.  You might get the desired result
>>from pushing the slider all the way to max performance, but there
>> doesn't seem to be any explicit setting to keep it on all the time.
>>
>> However, from the manual from v. 10, after the bit about the slider:
>>
>> Select a balance between power consumption and adapter
>> performance.
>> PSP - Power Saving Mode
>> CAM - Constantly Awake Mode
>> Select one of the Power Saving Mode levels:
>> PSP CAM: The client adapter is powered up
>> continuously.
>> PSP Level 1: PSP set at maximum power.
>> PSP Levels 2-4: PSP set to maximize power.
>> PSP Level 5: PSP set to maximize battery life.
>> PSP Auto: Default in PSP Level 6: Balances
>> between power consumption and battery life.
>>
>> 73,
>> Lem, ex-K2MHQ
>
> just wanted to give you an update, lem.  i downloaded and installed
> proset wireless v10.x and was able to change the power management to
> CAM.  now the laptop can go into standby mode without losing the
> wireless connection. 
>
> i've also noticed an interesting by-product of the upgrade.  the
> laptop 'lives' in its docking station in the hamshack up on the 2nd
> floor of the house.  prior to the upgrade none of the other
> neighborhood wi-fi signals were detected by the laptop when it was
> upstairs.  it did detect them downstairs in my office.  since the
> upgrade the laptop is detecting those same neighborhood signals
> upstairs. 
>
> thanks for the help.
>
> 73,
> rich, n9dko
>

WiFi DX!
Author
10 Aug 2006 1:38 PM
Rich
On Wed, 09 Aug 2006 13:31:22 -0400, Lem <lem***@hotmail.com> wrote:

Show quoteHide quote
>Rich wrote:
>> On Tue, 25 Jul 2006 11:26:58 -0400, Lem <lem***@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Rich wrote:
>>>> On Tue, 25 Jul 2006 22:51:56 +1000, "Diamontina Cocktail"
>>>> <l**@australia.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> "Rich" <r***@donotsendmeemail.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:9ap9c2pnaj75qkmb3rfq9g02qo08ua8pdf@4ax.com...
>>>>>> On Mon, 24 Jul 2006 15:28:18 +1000, "Diamontina Cocktail"
>>>>>> <l**@australia.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "T rumble" <Trum***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:70EC7E72-7EF2-411B-85AA-E7E60661DAA9@microsoft.com...
>>>>>>>> My wireless network works just fine when I turn on my machine or reboot,
>>>>>>>> but
>>>>>>>> then stops connecting about 10 minutes to 1/2 hours afterward. The
>>>>>>>> signal
>>>>>>>> stength is always and everythings looks OK. I've tried reinstalling and
>>>>>>>> updating the drivers, switching PCI ports, etc. Didn't help. Does anyone
>>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>> a suggestion?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thank you!
>>>>>>> Go to System Properties and make sure that the option to turn off the
>>>>>>> device
>>>>>>> when not in use is NOT ticked. This is more than likely it.
>>>>>>> (snip)
>>>>>> i've seen this advice several times and can't figure out where to
>>>>>> look.
>>>>>>
>>>>> Open Control Panel, System Properties then click on the Hardware tab then
>>>>> the Device Manager button. When that comes up, go to the Network Adapters
>>>>> section, click on the + sign then right click on the one for your wireless
>>>>> NIC. Now go to properties and when that comes up there SHOULD be a tab with
>>>>> "power management" on it. It will be under there. If there is no tab there,
>>>>> which can be the case, then dont worry about it.
>>>> yup.  that's what i did before posting.  the only power option is as i
>>>> described.
>>>>
>>>>>> the laptop here is a dell d810 with a built-in intell PRO/Wireless
>>>>>> 2200BG mini-card.  the wireless router is a US Robotics Wireless MaxG
>>>>>> Router fed by a ZyXel P660-R DSL modem.  zero problems with the
>>>>>> desktop's wired connection to the router and no problems with the LT's
>>>>>> wireless connection to the router until i close the lid on the LT,
>>>>>> wait a bit and then open the lid.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> when i close the lid on my dell laptop the pc goes into stand-by mode.
>>>>> Never a good idea to use stand-by or hibernate for any reason with XP. If
>>>>> there is a scrambling of hibersys for example, you cant boot the machine
>>>>> again until you delete that file and if you arent literate enough, that
>>>>> means paying someone to do it. Turn them off in the power options.
>>>> i'm literate enough to deal with that should it happen but thanks for
>>>> the tip.
>>>>
>>>>>> when i raise the lid thereby coming out of standby mode i frequently
>>>>>> have to re-boot the LT in order to re-establish the wi-fi connection
>>>>>> with my home network.  i have 'corrected' this problem by not putting
>>>>>> the LT into standby mode when the lid is closed.  since i've done this
>>>>>> the LT has never once lost the wi-fi connection to the router.   that
>>>>>> addresses the symptom, not the root problem.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> i've done the following:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> CONTROL PANEL
>>>>>> SYSTEM
>>>>>> HARDWARE
>>>>>> DEVICE MANAGER
>>>>>> NETWORK ADAPTERS
>>>>>> right clicked on the intel wireless adaptor, then PROPERTIES
>>>>>> ADVANCED
>>>>>> scrolled down to POWER MANAGEMENT
>>>>>>
>>>>>> the ONLY option for power management of the card is the balance
>>>>>> between power consumption and adapter performance.  nothing about
>>>>>> shutting down power when on standby mode.
>>>>> OK then put it in the position that consumes the most power, dont allow
>>>>> hibernate and as you have done, dont allow standby.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> not allowing standby would seem to be the only option to ensure the LT
>>>> doesn't lose connectivity.  oh, well.  thanks to those who
>>>> replied...appreciate the effort.
>>>>
>>>> 73,
>>>> rich, n9dko
>>> One last thing, Rich.
>>>
>>> The Intel PRO/Wireless 2200BG mini-card (which, Diamontina, is neither a
>>> "non-PCI card" nor a "USB wi-fi NIC") ought to have some sort of power
>>> management available through the Intel management software.
>>>
>>> From what you describe, it seems as if you may not be using the latest
>>> and greatest Intel software.  For example, from the manual for v. 9.0 of
>>> the Intel ProSet Wireless User's guide:
>>>
>>> "Power Management: Allows you to select a balance between power
>>> consumption and adapter performance. The wireless adapter power settings
>>> slider sets a balance between the computer's power source and the battery."
>>>
>>> That sounds like what you described.  You might get the desired result
>>>from pushing the slider all the way to max performance, but there
>>> doesn't seem to be any explicit setting to keep it on all the time.
>>>
>>> However, from the manual from v. 10, after the bit about the slider:
>>>
>>> Select a balance between power consumption and adapter
>>> performance.
>>> PSP - Power Saving Mode
>>> CAM - Constantly Awake Mode
>>> Select one of the Power Saving Mode levels:
>>> PSP CAM: The client adapter is powered up
>>> continuously.
>>> PSP Level 1: PSP set at maximum power.
>>> PSP Levels 2-4: PSP set to maximize power.
>>> PSP Level 5: PSP set to maximize battery life.
>>> PSP Auto: Default in PSP Level 6: Balances
>>> between power consumption and battery life.
>>>
>>> 73,
>>> Lem, ex-K2MHQ
>>
>> just wanted to give you an update, lem.  i downloaded and installed
>> proset wireless v10.x and was able to change the power management to
>> CAM.  now the laptop can go into standby mode without losing the
>> wireless connection. 
>>
>> i've also noticed an interesting by-product of the upgrade.  the
>> laptop 'lives' in its docking station in the hamshack up on the 2nd
>> floor of the house.  prior to the upgrade none of the other
>> neighborhood wi-fi signals were detected by the laptop when it was
>> upstairs.  it did detect them downstairs in my office.  since the
>> upgrade the laptop is detecting those same neighborhood signals
>> upstairs. 
>>
>> thanks for the help.
>>
>> 73,
>> rich, n9dko
>>
>
>WiFi DX!

LOL...maybe i should send a QSL card!  reminds me of a funny 'dx'
story.  we were at the dayton hamvention a couple of years ago staying
in the koa campground.  the guys we were with had purchased a vhf
mini-beam for SSB work on 2m earlier that day at the flea market.
they hooked it up and gave a call on 144.2.  they were answered
immediately....by a fellow across the the road in another campsite.
great dx!

73,
rich, n9dko
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26 Jul 2006 5:29 AM
Diamontina Cocktail
"Rich" <r***@donotsendmeemail.com> wrote in message
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>>
> not allowing standby would seem to be the only option to ensure the LT
> doesn't lose connectivity.  oh, well.  thanks to those who
> replied...appreciate the effort.
>

Actually, reset, turn off, restart, standby and hibernate will ALL turn it
off. Why? All of those turn the power off to the device. They are SUPPOSED
to turn the power off at that point.
Author
26 Jul 2006 12:17 PM
Rich
On Wed, 26 Jul 2006 15:29:05 +1000, "Diamontina Cocktail"
<l**@australia.com> wrote:

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>"Rich" <r***@donotsendmeemail.com> wrote in message
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>> not allowing standby would seem to be the only option to ensure the LT
>> doesn't lose connectivity.  oh, well.  thanks to those who
>> replied...appreciate the effort.
>>
>
>Actually, reset, turn off, restart, standby and hibernate will ALL turn it
>off. Why? All of those turn the power off to the device. They are SUPPOSED
>to turn the power off at that point.
>

ok..but as i wrote...NOT allowing standy is the only option to ensure
the LT doesn't lose connectivity.   the 'when i close the lid' was
implied since that was the focus of the previous messages.  thanks.

73,
rich, n9dko