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WAP-PSK - rekeying intervalWhat is best advice regarding the rekeying interval for WAP-PSK? My ISP
advises leaving this setting alone (it defaults to zero). What is best for an ordinary home network - I have one desktop wirelessly networked to the router, and one other machine ethernet wired to the router. Currently set up with WAP-PSK and a 63 character ASCII key. -- Rev Robert M Jones, Wimborne Baptist Church, UK http://www.wimborne-baptist.org.uk Free trial of Mailwasher Pro - effective email spam filter - (commission goes to our partners in Bulgaria) http://fta.firetrust.com/index.cgi?id=420 Hi
Not sure what the ISP has to do with Wireless Encryption on your LAN. You set the Key, and if it works you let it Ride. If you have WPA + AES it is even better. Wireless Security - http://www.ezlan.net/Wireless_Security.html WEP, WPA, and the Future - http://www.ezlan.net/wpa_wep.html Jack (MVP-Networking). Show quoteHide quote "Robert M Jones" <robert53newsgroups***@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message news:%23Lr3U%23suGHA.4460@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... > What is best advice regarding the rekeying interval for WAP-PSK? My ISP > advises leaving this setting alone (it defaults to zero). What is best for > an ordinary home network - I have one desktop wirelessly networked to the > router, and one other machine ethernet wired to the router. Currently set > up with WAP-PSK and a 63 character ASCII key. > -- > Rev Robert M Jones, Wimborne Baptist Church, UK > http://www.wimborne-baptist.org.uk > Free trial of Mailwasher Pro - effective email spam filter - (commission > goes to our partners in Bulgaria) > http://fta.firetrust.com/index.cgi?id=420 Jack (MVP-Networking). wrote:
Show quoteHide quote > Hi Thank you. The ISP sold me the router (which is configured for their > > Not sure what the ISP has to do with Wireless Encryption on your LAN. > > You set the Key, and if it works you let it Ride. > > If you have WPA + AES it is even better. > > Wireless Security - http://www.ezlan.net/Wireless_Security.html > > WEP, WPA, and the Future - http://www.ezlan.net/wpa_wep.html > > Jack (MVP-Networking). service), and their WPA instructions suggest leaving the rekeying interval at 0. I have a working system, but was canvassing opinion on whether this was the best option with regard to security - I have no views on the subject as I am still learning about wireless and networks and certainly don't yet understand what the rekeying interval is about. I've read your links thank you,but they don't mention that issue although they were helpful nevertheless. Thanks anyway. -- Rev Robert M Jones, Wimborne Baptist Church, UK http://www.wimborne-baptist.org.uk Free trial of Mailwasher Pro - effective email spam filter - (commission goes to our partners in Bulgaria) http://fta.firetrust.com/index.cgi?id=420 Robert M Jones wrote:
> What is best advice regarding the rekeying interval for WAP-PSK? My ISP It depends on how paranoid you are and what data you are trying to > advises leaving this setting alone (it defaults to zero). What is best > for an ordinary home network - I have one desktop wirelessly networked > to the router, and one other machine ethernet wired to the router. > Currently set up with WAP-PSK and a 63 character ASCII key. secure. It is my understanding that although WEP is rather easily cracked with tools available on the Internet, WPA-PSK is currently only attackable through brute force techniques (i.e., guessing the password). A long, complex, non-dictionary WPA password should be more than sufficient for a home wifi network. As Jack said WPA2 (WPA-AES) is even more secure because it uses a different encryption standard. Although periodically changing passwords theoretically increases security (e.g., if it takes 10 hours to brute force guess a password and you change it every hour, you increase the total time it takes to guess it), in practice, it's likely to decrease security because most human beings can't remember changing sequences of long, complex, non-dictionary passwords without some memory aid. As soon as you start writing the password down someplace (e.g., on a post-it stuck to the monitor) the potential for a security breach goes up. Lem wrote:
Show quoteHide quote > Robert M Jones wrote: Sorry, I mis-read your question. I stand by what I wrote about changing >> What is best advice regarding the rekeying interval for WAP-PSK? My >> ISP advises leaving this setting alone (it defaults to zero). What is >> best for an ordinary home network - I have one desktop wirelessly >> networked to the router, and one other machine ethernet wired to the >> router. Currently set up with WAP-PSK and a 63 character ASCII key. > > It depends on how paranoid you are and what data you are trying to > secure. It is my understanding that although WEP is rather easily > cracked with tools available on the Internet, WPA-PSK is currently only > attackable through brute force techniques (i.e., guessing the password). > A long, complex, non-dictionary WPA password should be more than > sufficient for a home wifi network. As Jack said WPA2 (WPA-AES) is even > more secure because it uses a different encryption standard. > > Although periodically changing passwords theoretically increases > security (e.g., if it takes 10 hours to brute force guess a password and > you change it every hour, you increase the total time it takes to guess > it), in practice, it's likely to decrease security because most human > beings can't remember changing sequences of long, complex, > non-dictionary passwords without some memory aid. As soon as you start > writing the password down someplace (e.g., on a post-it stuck to the > monitor) the potential for a security breach goes up. passwords, but "rekeying interval" for WPA-TKIP refers to the automatic rekeying (which is why it's called "Temporal Key Integrity Protocol"). I agree with Jack. Leave it at the default. Lem wrote:
Show quoteHide quote > Lem wrote: Thank you. I understand the rest - it was the rekeying interval I >> Robert M Jones wrote: >>> What is best advice regarding the rekeying interval for WAP-PSK? My >>> ISP advises leaving this setting alone (it defaults to zero). What is >>> best for an ordinary home network - I have one desktop wirelessly >>> networked to the router, and one other machine ethernet wired to the >>> router. Currently set up with WAP-PSK and a 63 character ASCII key. >> >> It depends on how paranoid you are and what data you are trying to >> secure. It is my understanding that although WEP is rather easily >> cracked with tools available on the Internet, WPA-PSK is currently >> only attackable through brute force techniques (i.e., guessing the >> password). A long, complex, non-dictionary WPA password should be >> more than sufficient for a home wifi network. As Jack said WPA2 >> (WPA-AES) is even more secure because it uses a different encryption >> standard. >> >> Although periodically changing passwords theoretically increases >> security (e.g., if it takes 10 hours to brute force guess a password >> and you change it every hour, you increase the total time it takes to >> guess it), in practice, it's likely to decrease security because most >> human beings can't remember changing sequences of long, complex, >> non-dictionary passwords without some memory aid. As soon as you >> start writing the password down someplace (e.g., on a post-it stuck to >> the monitor) the potential for a security breach goes up. > > > Sorry, I mis-read your question. I stand by what I wrote about changing > passwords, but "rekeying interval" for WPA-TKIP refers to the automatic > rekeying (which is why it's called "Temporal Key Integrity Protocol"). I > agree with Jack. Leave it at the default. wanted. Thanks again. -- Rev Robert M Jones, Wimborne Baptist Church, UK http://www.wimborne-baptist.org.uk Free trial of Mailwasher Pro - effective email spam filter - (commission goes to our partners in Bulgaria) http://fta.firetrust.com/index.cgi?id=420 Further to your discussion,
I have set up a wireless network with WPA-PSK and was wondering if there was any way for windows to store the network profile and hence WPA key so that i don't have to manually enter it every time i turn the pc on. Thanks in advance for any help Show quoteHide quote "Robert M Jones" wrote: > Lem wrote: > > Lem wrote: > >> Robert M Jones wrote: > >>> What is best advice regarding the rekeying interval for WAP-PSK? My > >>> ISP advises leaving this setting alone (it defaults to zero). What is > >>> best for an ordinary home network - I have one desktop wirelessly > >>> networked to the router, and one other machine ethernet wired to the > >>> router. Currently set up with WAP-PSK and a 63 character ASCII key. > >> > >> It depends on how paranoid you are and what data you are trying to > >> secure. It is my understanding that although WEP is rather easily > >> cracked with tools available on the Internet, WPA-PSK is currently > >> only attackable through brute force techniques (i.e., guessing the > >> password). A long, complex, non-dictionary WPA password should be > >> more than sufficient for a home wifi network. As Jack said WPA2 > >> (WPA-AES) is even more secure because it uses a different encryption > >> standard. > >> > >> Although periodically changing passwords theoretically increases > >> security (e.g., if it takes 10 hours to brute force guess a password > >> and you change it every hour, you increase the total time it takes to > >> guess it), in practice, it's likely to decrease security because most > >> human beings can't remember changing sequences of long, complex, > >> non-dictionary passwords without some memory aid. As soon as you > >> start writing the password down someplace (e.g., on a post-it stuck to > >> the monitor) the potential for a security breach goes up. > > > > > > Sorry, I mis-read your question. I stand by what I wrote about changing > > passwords, but "rekeying interval" for WPA-TKIP refers to the automatic > > rekeying (which is why it's called "Temporal Key Integrity Protocol"). I > > agree with Jack. Leave it at the default. > > Thank you. I understand the rest - it was the rekeying interval I > wanted. Thanks again. > > -- > Rev Robert M Jones, Wimborne Baptist Church, UK > http://www.wimborne-baptist.org.uk > Free trial of Mailwasher Pro - effective email spam filter - (commission > goes to our partners in Bulgaria) > http://fta.firetrust.com/index.cgi?id=420 > "mchoss" <mch***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message Go to Network Connections, right-click on the ireless Connection and choose news:B181385C-1865-4AD8-9034-3148937665CF@microsoft.com... > Further to your discussion, > > I have set up a wireless network with WPA-PSK and was wondering if there > was > any way for windows to store the network profile and hence WPA key so that > i > don't have to manually enter it every time i turn the pc on. > Properties. You should see a tab called "Wireless Networks". Click on that, then go to the Properties button and add the WPA key there HTH
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