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Author
19 Aug 2006 10:52 AM
shaoen01
Hi,

I have 2 computers and both are using Win Xp Pro SP2 OS. My desktop is
connected to my router via cable and my labtop is connected via built-in
wireless card. Previously, i setup everything and both computers are able to
work access and modify each other's shared files.

But i do not know what software i may have installed, now both are able to
see each other in my network places but when i click to attempt to access
that computer it gives an error message:
"\\Labtop is not accessible. You might not have permission to use this
network resource. Contact the administrator of this server to find out if you
have access permissions.

The network path was not found."

I am sure both computers are connected to the router and both are able to
connect to the internet. For checking purposes, i even disabled Windows
Firewall and my own ZoneAlarm Firewall as well. However, i left my Grisoft
AVG Anti-virus running.  And don't think AVG is the one that's causing the
problems because it was working fine.

However, i did note a difference between my labtop and desktop.  When i run
"cmd" in command prompt >type ipconfig /all

I noticed that under windows ip configurations,  my desktop's node type is
"Unknown" but my labtop's node type is "peer to peer". Anyone know if this 
might be a problem?

And i have read Practicalnetworking and some the other solutions that were
provided to other wireless networking posts but still it does not help. Thanks

Author
19 Aug 2006 3:34 PM
Jack (MVP-Networking).
Hi
Successful Sharing involves some general consideration in Network settings,
http://www.ezlan.net/sharing.html
As well as specific adjustment of each computer according to what is allowed
to be shared.
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;304040
Jack (MVP-Networking).

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"shaoen01" <shaoe***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:545F83AE-4851-49CA-9CE3-6042A329EF8B@microsoft.com...
> Hi,
>
> I have 2 computers and both are using Win Xp Pro SP2 OS. My desktop is
> connected to my router via cable and my labtop is connected via built-in
> wireless card. Previously, i setup everything and both computers are able
> to
> work access and modify each other's shared files.
>
> But i do not know what software i may have installed, now both are able to
> see each other in my network places but when i click to attempt to access
> that computer it gives an error message:
> "\\Labtop is not accessible. You might not have permission to use this
> network resource. Contact the administrator of this server to find out if
> you
> have access permissions.
>
> The network path was not found."
>
> I am sure both computers are connected to the router and both are able to
> connect to the internet. For checking purposes, i even disabled Windows
> Firewall and my own ZoneAlarm Firewall as well. However, i left my Grisoft
> AVG Anti-virus running.  And don't think AVG is the one that's causing the
> problems because it was working fine.
>
> However, i did note a difference between my labtop and desktop.  When i
> run
> "cmd" in command prompt >type ipconfig /all
>
> I noticed that under windows ip configurations,  my desktop's node type is
> "Unknown" but my labtop's node type is "peer to peer". Anyone know if this
> might be a problem?
>
> And i have read Practicalnetworking and some the other solutions that were
> provided to other wireless networking posts but still it does not help.
> Thanks
Author
20 Aug 2006 12:48 AM
Wayne G. Dengel
Jack ~ I might not be the most capable person in the world, the brightess
star in the sky; however . . . .  I am finding, seeing MANY posts of this
SAME type.  Isn't there a common thread to fix this problem?   I have gone
the ezlan route as you suggest to all who post as this person did, in my
case without success.  The 'filtering' process may have a few holes in
it(??).

MS's 'quick and easy' way to set up a wireless network, in mine and many
posters, two computers total, simply does not work.  Why?  I have two
machines.  One is brand new - XP-Media, the other XP-Hm (just repaired also
inclds SP2). 'A' "sees" 'B', but 'B' does not see 'A'.       'B' sees USBd
printers on 'A'.

Looking for a common thread (to repair this problem), in advance, Thank You.

Wayne



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"Jack (MVP-Networking)." <J***@DiscussionGroup.com> wrote in message
news:uwsjRT6wGHA.5044@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> Hi
> Successful Sharing involves some general consideration in Network
> settings, http://www.ezlan.net/sharing.html
> As well as specific adjustment of each computer according to what is
> allowed to be shared.
> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;304040
> Jack (MVP-Networking).
>
> "shaoen01" <shaoe***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:545F83AE-4851-49CA-9CE3-6042A329EF8B@microsoft.com...
>> Hi,
>>
>> I have 2 computers and both are using Win Xp Pro SP2 OS. My desktop is
>> connected to my router via cable and my labtop is connected via built-in
>> wireless card. Previously, i setup everything and both computers are able
>> to
>> work access and modify each other's shared files.
>>
>> But i do not know what software i may have installed, now both are able
>> to
>> see each other in my network places but when i click to attempt to access
>> that computer it gives an error message:
>> "\\Labtop is not accessible. You might not have permission to use this
>> network resource. Contact the administrator of this server to find out if
>> you
>> have access permissions.
>>
>> The network path was not found."
>>
>> I am sure both computers are connected to the router and both are able to
>> connect to the internet. For checking purposes, i even disabled Windows
>> Firewall and my own ZoneAlarm Firewall as well. However, i left my
>> Grisoft
>> AVG Anti-virus running.  And don't think AVG is the one that's causing
>> the
>> problems because it was working fine.
>>
>> However, i did note a difference between my labtop and desktop.  When i
>> run
>> "cmd" in command prompt >type ipconfig /all
>>
>> I noticed that under windows ip configurations,  my desktop's node type
>> is
>> "Unknown" but my labtop's node type is "peer to peer". Anyone know if
>> this
>> might be a problem?
>>
>> And i have read Practicalnetworking and some the other solutions that
>> were
>> provided to other wireless networking posts but still it does not help.
>> Thanks
>
>
Author
20 Aug 2006 2:23 AM
Jack (MVP-Networking).
Hi

If there were one cause and one answer that solves your problem, you would
be correct in your comment.

However, this is not the case the problem that you encounter can be caused
by variety of issues in the computer Hardware OS, and other software
applications.

When you go to a doctor office and complain about general pain the in most
cases the physician needs to conduct tests to find the cause of the pain in
order to provide remedy.

It is impossible to account to every combination of hardware and software
setting especially when the products are programmed /built by variety of
manufacturers.

The pages on www.ezlan.net and similar pages on other member’s sites is a
product of our experience with many systems and variety of hardware and thus
might have a higher probability to solve problems that are not solved by the
support of a single provider.

Such pages usually might point to the right direction, and usually help
people who are willing to learn more and help themselves, rather than
providing an instant (none existing) answers.

That is my way of doing it. I get a lot of praise, and occasional complains.
Given that it is free, No Ads, or any other commercial solicitation.  It
costing me money, and does not provide income. So all in all, it is not so
bad.

However, occasionally there is No substitute to the in vivo work of a
professional to solve complicated “Glitches”.

Jack (MVP-Networking).

"Wayne G. Dengel" <wgd.roam***@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:fjOFg.1922$u1.1612@trnddc05...
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> Jack ~ I might not be the most capable person in the world, the brightess
> star in the sky; however . . . .  I am finding, seeing MANY posts of this
> SAME type.  Isn't there a common thread to fix this problem?   I have gone
> the ezlan route as you suggest to all who post as this person did, in my
> case without success.  The 'filtering' process may have a few holes in
> it(??).
>
> MS's 'quick and easy' way to set up a wireless network, in mine and many
> posters, two computers total, simply does not work.  Why?  I have two
> machines.  One is brand new - XP-Media, the other XP-Hm (just repaired
> also inclds SP2). 'A' "sees" 'B', but 'B' does not see 'A'.       'B' sees
> USBd printers on 'A'.
>
> Looking for a common thread (to repair this problem), in advance, Thank
> You.
>
> Wayne
>
>
>
> "Jack (MVP-Networking)." <J***@DiscussionGroup.com> wrote in message
> news:uwsjRT6wGHA.5044@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> Hi
>> Successful Sharing involves some general consideration in Network
>> settings, http://www.ezlan.net/sharing.html
>> As well as specific adjustment of each computer according to what is
>> allowed to be shared.
>> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;304040
>> Jack (MVP-Networking).
>>
>> "shaoen01" <shaoe***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:545F83AE-4851-49CA-9CE3-6042A329EF8B@microsoft.com...
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I have 2 computers and both are using Win Xp Pro SP2 OS. My desktop is
>>> connected to my router via cable and my labtop is connected via built-in
>>> wireless card. Previously, i setup everything and both computers are
>>> able to
>>> work access and modify each other's shared files.
>>>
>>> But i do not know what software i may have installed, now both are able
>>> to
>>> see each other in my network places but when i click to attempt to
>>> access
>>> that computer it gives an error message:
>>> "\\Labtop is not accessible. You might not have permission to use this
>>> network resource. Contact the administrator of this server to find out
>>> if you
>>> have access permissions.
>>>
>>> The network path was not found."
>>>
>>> I am sure both computers are connected to the router and both are able
>>> to
>>> connect to the internet. For checking purposes, i even disabled Windows
>>> Firewall and my own ZoneAlarm Firewall as well. However, i left my
>>> Grisoft
>>> AVG Anti-virus running.  And don't think AVG is the one that's causing
>>> the
>>> problems because it was working fine.
>>>
>>> However, i did note a difference between my labtop and desktop.  When i
>>> run
>>> "cmd" in command prompt >type ipconfig /all
>>>
>>> I noticed that under windows ip configurations,  my desktop's node type
>>> is
>>> "Unknown" but my labtop's node type is "peer to peer". Anyone know if
>>> this
>>> might be a problem?
>>>
>>> And i have read Practicalnetworking and some the other solutions that
>>> were
>>> provided to other wireless networking posts but still it does not help.
>>> Thanks
>>
>>
>
>
Author
20 Aug 2006 10:12 AM
Wayne G. Dengel
Hi Jack:

I totally agree with what you say.  It just seems that starting out w/two
'virgin', fresh out-of-the-box machines with unadulterated XP OSs, bringing
simply two together should not be as major a problem as it is (appears to
be).  I don't thing Bill Gate's people really thought this through very
carefully.   Any way, will wade - again and again - through ezlan.  Maybe,
just maybe a solution will surface.

A good weekend to you.

Wayne



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"Jack (MVP-Networking)." <J***@DiscussionGroup.com> wrote in message
news:%23dhF89$wGHA.1284@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> Hi
>
> If there were one cause and one answer that solves your problem, you would
> be correct in your comment.
>
> However, this is not the case the problem that you encounter can be caused
> by variety of issues in the computer Hardware OS, and other software
> applications.
>
> When you go to a doctor office and complain about general pain the in most
> cases the physician needs to conduct tests to find the cause of the pain
> in order to provide remedy.
>
> It is impossible to account to every combination of hardware and software
> setting especially when the products are programmed /built by variety of
> manufacturers.
>
> The pages on www.ezlan.net and similar pages on other member's sites is a
> product of our experience with many systems and variety of hardware and
> thus might have a higher probability to solve problems that are not solved
> by the support of a single provider.
>
> Such pages usually might point to the right direction, and usually help
> people who are willing to learn more and help themselves, rather than
> providing an instant (none existing) answers.
>
> That is my way of doing it. I get a lot of praise, and occasional
> complains. Given that it is free, No Ads, or any other commercial
> solicitation.  It costing me money, and does not provide income. So all in
> all, it is not so bad.
>
> However, occasionally there is No substitute to the in vivo work of a
> professional to solve complicated "Glitches".
>
> Jack (MVP-Networking).
>
> "Wayne G. Dengel" <wgd.roam***@verizon.net> wrote in message
> news:fjOFg.1922$u1.1612@trnddc05...
>> Jack ~ I might not be the most capable person in the world, the brightess
>> star in the sky; however . . . .  I am finding, seeing MANY posts of this
>> SAME type.  Isn't there a common thread to fix this problem?   I have
>> gone the ezlan route as you suggest to all who post as this person did,
>> in my case without success.  The 'filtering' process may have a few holes
>> in it(??).
>>
>> MS's 'quick and easy' way to set up a wireless network, in mine and many
>> posters, two computers total, simply does not work.  Why?  I have two
>> machines.  One is brand new - XP-Media, the other XP-Hm (just repaired
>> also inclds SP2). 'A' "sees" 'B', but 'B' does not see 'A'.       'B'
>> sees USBd printers on 'A'.
>>
>> Looking for a common thread (to repair this problem), in advance, Thank
>> You.
>>
>> Wayne
>>
>>
>>
>> "Jack (MVP-Networking)." <J***@DiscussionGroup.com> wrote in message
>> news:uwsjRT6wGHA.5044@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>> Hi
>>> Successful Sharing involves some general consideration in Network
>>> settings, http://www.ezlan.net/sharing.html
>>> As well as specific adjustment of each computer according to what is
>>> allowed to be shared.
>>> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;304040
>>> Jack (MVP-Networking).
>>>
>>> "shaoen01" <shaoe***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>>> news:545F83AE-4851-49CA-9CE3-6042A329EF8B@microsoft.com...
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> I have 2 computers and both are using Win Xp Pro SP2 OS. My desktop is
>>>> connected to my router via cable and my labtop is connected via
>>>> built-in
>>>> wireless card. Previously, i setup everything and both computers are
>>>> able to
>>>> work access and modify each other's shared files.
>>>>
>>>> But i do not know what software i may have installed, now both are able
>>>> to
>>>> see each other in my network places but when i click to attempt to
>>>> access
>>>> that computer it gives an error message:
>>>> "\\Labtop is not accessible. You might not have permission to use this
>>>> network resource. Contact the administrator of this server to find out
>>>> if you
>>>> have access permissions.
>>>>
>>>> The network path was not found."
>>>>
>>>> I am sure both computers are connected to the router and both are able
>>>> to
>>>> connect to the internet. For checking purposes, i even disabled Windows
>>>> Firewall and my own ZoneAlarm Firewall as well. However, i left my
>>>> Grisoft
>>>> AVG Anti-virus running.  And don't think AVG is the one that's causing
>>>> the
>>>> problems because it was working fine.
>>>>
>>>> However, i did note a difference between my labtop and desktop.  When i
>>>> run
>>>> "cmd" in command prompt >type ipconfig /all
>>>>
>>>> I noticed that under windows ip configurations,  my desktop's node type
>>>> is
>>>> "Unknown" but my labtop's node type is "peer to peer". Anyone know if
>>>> this
>>>> might be a problem?
>>>>
>>>> And i have read Practicalnetworking and some the other solutions that
>>>> were
>>>> provided to other wireless networking posts but still it does not help.
>>>> Thanks
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
Author
20 Aug 2006 10:16 AM
Wayne G. Dengel
BTW - ezlan could have offered self-contained help.  In preparation to find
a fix, they say "remove this, remove that.." etc.   'how' links would be
helpful.   Ezlan was not written for the novice.  Networking today is a
universal function.  Ezlan could make is easy(ier), more user friendly.

Wayne




"Wayne G. Dengel" <wgd.roam***@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:WzWFg.1940$hP6.1017@trnddc04...
Show quoteHide quote
> Hi Jack:
>
> I totally agree with what you say.  It just seems that starting out w/two
> 'virgin', fresh out-of-the-box machines with unadulterated XP OSs,
> bringing simply two together should not be as major a problem as it is
> (appears to be).  I don't thing Bill Gate's people really thought this
> through very carefully.   Any way, will wade - again and again - through
> ezlan.  Maybe, just maybe a solution will surface.
>
> A good weekend to you.
>
> Wayne
>
>
>
> "Jack (MVP-Networking)." <J***@DiscussionGroup.com> wrote in message
> news:%23dhF89$wGHA.1284@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> Hi
>>
>> If there were one cause and one answer that solves your problem, you
>> would be correct in your comment.
>>
>> However, this is not the case the problem that you encounter can be
>> caused by variety of issues in the computer Hardware OS, and other
>> software applications.
>>
>> When you go to a doctor office and complain about general pain the in
>> most cases the physician needs to conduct tests to find the cause of the
>> pain in order to provide remedy.
>>
>> It is impossible to account to every combination of hardware and software
>> setting especially when the products are programmed /built by variety of
>> manufacturers.
>>
>> The pages on www.ezlan.net and similar pages on other member's sites is a
>> product of our experience with many systems and variety of hardware and
>> thus might have a higher probability to solve problems that are not
>> solved by the support of a single provider.
>>
>> Such pages usually might point to the right direction, and usually help
>> people who are willing to learn more and help themselves, rather than
>> providing an instant (none existing) answers.
>>
>> That is my way of doing it. I get a lot of praise, and occasional
>> complains. Given that it is free, No Ads, or any other commercial
>> solicitation.  It costing me money, and does not provide income. So all
>> in all, it is not so bad.
>>
>> However, occasionally there is No substitute to the in vivo work of a
>> professional to solve complicated "Glitches".
>>
>> Jack (MVP-Networking).
>>
>> "Wayne G. Dengel" <wgd.roam***@verizon.net> wrote in message
>> news:fjOFg.1922$u1.1612@trnddc05...
>>> Jack ~ I might not be the most capable person in the world, the
>>> brightess star in the sky; however . . . .  I am finding, seeing MANY
>>> posts of this SAME type.  Isn't there a common thread to fix this
>>> problem?   I have gone the ezlan route as you suggest to all who post as
>>> this person did, in my case without success.  The 'filtering' process
>>> may have a few holes in it(??).
>>>
>>> MS's 'quick and easy' way to set up a wireless network, in mine and many
>>> posters, two computers total, simply does not work.  Why?  I have two
>>> machines.  One is brand new - XP-Media, the other XP-Hm (just repaired
>>> also inclds SP2). 'A' "sees" 'B', but 'B' does not see 'A'.       'B'
>>> sees USBd printers on 'A'.
>>>
>>> Looking for a common thread (to repair this problem), in advance, Thank
>>> You.
>>>
>>> Wayne
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "Jack (MVP-Networking)." <J***@DiscussionGroup.com> wrote in message
>>> news:uwsjRT6wGHA.5044@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>> Hi
>>>> Successful Sharing involves some general consideration in Network
>>>> settings, http://www.ezlan.net/sharing.html
>>>> As well as specific adjustment of each computer according to what is
>>>> allowed to be shared.
>>>> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;304040
>>>> Jack (MVP-Networking).
>>>>
>>>> "shaoen01" <shaoe***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:545F83AE-4851-49CA-9CE3-6042A329EF8B@microsoft.com...
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> I have 2 computers and both are using Win Xp Pro SP2 OS. My desktop is
>>>>> connected to my router via cable and my labtop is connected via
>>>>> built-in
>>>>> wireless card. Previously, i setup everything and both computers are
>>>>> able to
>>>>> work access and modify each other's shared files.
>>>>>
>>>>> But i do not know what software i may have installed, now both are
>>>>> able to
>>>>> see each other in my network places but when i click to attempt to
>>>>> access
>>>>> that computer it gives an error message:
>>>>> "\\Labtop is not accessible. You might not have permission to use this
>>>>> network resource. Contact the administrator of this server to find out
>>>>> if you
>>>>> have access permissions.
>>>>>
>>>>> The network path was not found."
>>>>>
>>>>> I am sure both computers are connected to the router and both are able
>>>>> to
>>>>> connect to the internet. For checking purposes, i even disabled
>>>>> Windows
>>>>> Firewall and my own ZoneAlarm Firewall as well. However, i left my
>>>>> Grisoft
>>>>> AVG Anti-virus running.  And don't think AVG is the one that's causing
>>>>> the
>>>>> problems because it was working fine.
>>>>>
>>>>> However, i did note a difference between my labtop and desktop.  When
>>>>> i run
>>>>> "cmd" in command prompt >type ipconfig /all
>>>>>
>>>>> I noticed that under windows ip configurations,  my desktop's node
>>>>> type is
>>>>> "Unknown" but my labtop's node type is "peer to peer". Anyone know if
>>>>> this
>>>>> might be a problem?
>>>>>
>>>>> And i have read Practicalnetworking and some the other solutions that
>>>>> were
>>>>> provided to other wireless networking posts but still it does not
>>>>> help. Thanks
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
Author
20 Aug 2006 5:27 PM
Jack (MVP-Networking).
Hi
Ok
You get up in the morning and your car does not start, the starter does not
crank.
You open the hood and look at the battery's cables, and they look OK.
You have a gizmo to check the Battery, and it says that the battery is
charged.
At this point, there two options.
1.  Learn how to be an Auto Mechanic.
2.  Call your Auto Mechanic.
Regards.
Jack (MVP-Networking).

"Wayne G. Dengel" <wgd.roam***@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:3EWFg.1941$hP6.254@trnddc04...
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> BTW - ezlan could have offered self-contained help.  In preparation to
> find a fix, they say "remove this, remove that.." etc.   'how' links would
> be helpful.   Ezlan was not written for the novice.  Networking today is a
> universal function.  Ezlan could make is easy(ier), more user friendly.
>
> Wayne
>
>
>
>
> "Wayne G. Dengel" <wgd.roam***@verizon.net> wrote in message
> news:WzWFg.1940$hP6.1017@trnddc04...
>> Hi Jack:
>>
>> I totally agree with what you say.  It just seems that starting out w/two
>> 'virgin', fresh out-of-the-box machines with unadulterated XP OSs,
>> bringing simply two together should not be as major a problem as it is
>> (appears to be).  I don't thing Bill Gate's people really thought this
>> through very carefully.   Any way, will wade - again and again - through
>> ezlan.  Maybe, just maybe a solution will surface.
>>
>> A good weekend to you.
>>
>> Wayne
>>
>>
>>
>> "Jack (MVP-Networking)." <J***@DiscussionGroup.com> wrote in message
>> news:%23dhF89$wGHA.1284@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>> Hi
>>>
>>> If there were one cause and one answer that solves your problem, you
>>> would be correct in your comment.
>>>
>>> However, this is not the case the problem that you encounter can be
>>> caused by variety of issues in the computer Hardware OS, and other
>>> software applications.
>>>
>>> When you go to a doctor office and complain about general pain the in
>>> most cases the physician needs to conduct tests to find the cause of the
>>> pain in order to provide remedy.
>>>
>>> It is impossible to account to every combination of hardware and
>>> software setting especially when the products are programmed /built by
>>> variety of manufacturers.
>>>
>>> The pages on www.ezlan.net and similar pages on other member's sites is
>>> a product of our experience with many systems and variety of hardware
>>> and thus might have a higher probability to solve problems that are not
>>> solved by the support of a single provider.
>>>
>>> Such pages usually might point to the right direction, and usually help
>>> people who are willing to learn more and help themselves, rather than
>>> providing an instant (none existing) answers.
>>>
>>> That is my way of doing it. I get a lot of praise, and occasional
>>> complains. Given that it is free, No Ads, or any other commercial
>>> solicitation.  It costing me money, and does not provide income. So all
>>> in all, it is not so bad.
>>>
>>> However, occasionally there is No substitute to the in vivo work of a
>>> professional to solve complicated "Glitches".
>>>
>>> Jack (MVP-Networking).
>>>
>>> "Wayne G. Dengel" <wgd.roam***@verizon.net> wrote in message
>>> news:fjOFg.1922$u1.1612@trnddc05...
>>>> Jack ~ I might not be the most capable person in the world, the
>>>> brightess star in the sky; however . . . .  I am finding, seeing MANY
>>>> posts of this SAME type.  Isn't there a common thread to fix this
>>>> problem?   I have gone the ezlan route as you suggest to all who post
>>>> as this person did, in my case without success.  The 'filtering'
>>>> process may have a few holes in it(??).
>>>>
>>>> MS's 'quick and easy' way to set up a wireless network, in mine and
>>>> many posters, two computers total, simply does not work.  Why?  I have
>>>> two machines.  One is brand new - XP-Media, the other XP-Hm (just
>>>> repaired also inclds SP2). 'A' "sees" 'B', but 'B' does not see 'A'.
>>>> 'B' sees USBd printers on 'A'.
>>>>
>>>> Looking for a common thread (to repair this problem), in advance, Thank
>>>> You.
>>>>
>>>> Wayne
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Jack (MVP-Networking)." <J***@DiscussionGroup.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:uwsjRT6wGHA.5044@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>>> Hi
>>>>> Successful Sharing involves some general consideration in Network
>>>>> settings, http://www.ezlan.net/sharing.html
>>>>> As well as specific adjustment of each computer according to what is
>>>>> allowed to be shared.
>>>>> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;304040
>>>>> Jack (MVP-Networking).
>>>>>
>>>>> "shaoen01" <shaoe***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:545F83AE-4851-49CA-9CE3-6042A329EF8B@microsoft.com...
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have 2 computers and both are using Win Xp Pro SP2 OS. My desktop
>>>>>> is
>>>>>> connected to my router via cable and my labtop is connected via
>>>>>> built-in
>>>>>> wireless card. Previously, i setup everything and both computers are
>>>>>> able to
>>>>>> work access and modify each other's shared files.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> But i do not know what software i may have installed, now both are
>>>>>> able to
>>>>>> see each other in my network places but when i click to attempt to
>>>>>> access
>>>>>> that computer it gives an error message:
>>>>>> "\\Labtop is not accessible. You might not have permission to use
>>>>>> this
>>>>>> network resource. Contact the administrator of this server to find
>>>>>> out if you
>>>>>> have access permissions.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The network path was not found."
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I am sure both computers are connected to the router and both are
>>>>>> able to
>>>>>> connect to the internet. For checking purposes, i even disabled
>>>>>> Windows
>>>>>> Firewall and my own ZoneAlarm Firewall as well. However, i left my
>>>>>> Grisoft
>>>>>> AVG Anti-virus running.  And don't think AVG is the one that's
>>>>>> causing the
>>>>>> problems because it was working fine.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> However, i did note a difference between my labtop and desktop.  When
>>>>>> i run
>>>>>> "cmd" in command prompt >type ipconfig /all
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I noticed that under windows ip configurations,  my desktop's node
>>>>>> type is
>>>>>> "Unknown" but my labtop's node type is "peer to peer". Anyone know if
>>>>>> this
>>>>>> might be a problem?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And i have read Practicalnetworking and some the other solutions that
>>>>>> were
>>>>>> provided to other wireless networking posts but still it does not
>>>>>> help. Thanks
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
Author
20 Aug 2006 9:02 PM
Wayne G. Dengel
Jack:
I hear you ~~ and thank you; will give ezlan another try, and try again
until a solution is found.
   Wayne


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"Jack (MVP-Networking)." <J***@DiscussionGroup.com> wrote in message
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> Hi
> Ok
> You get up in the morning and your car does not start, the starter does
> not crank.
> You open the hood and look at the battery's cables, and they look OK.
> You have a gizmo to check the Battery, and it says that the battery is
> charged.
> At this point, there two options.
> 1.  Learn how to be an Auto Mechanic.
> 2.  Call your Auto Mechanic.
> Regards.
> Jack (MVP-Networking).
>
> "Wayne G. Dengel" <wgd.roam***@verizon.net> wrote in message
> news:3EWFg.1941$hP6.254@trnddc04...
>> BTW - ezlan could have offered self-contained help.  In preparation to
>> find a fix, they say "remove this, remove that.." etc.   'how' links
>> would be helpful.   Ezlan was not written for the novice.  Networking
>> today is a universal function.  Ezlan could make is easy(ier), more user
>> friendly.
>>
>> Wayne
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "Wayne G. Dengel" <wgd.roam***@verizon.net> wrote in message
>> news:WzWFg.1940$hP6.1017@trnddc04...
>>> Hi Jack:
>>>
>>> I totally agree with what you say.  It just seems that starting out
>>> w/two 'virgin', fresh out-of-the-box machines with unadulterated XP OSs,
>>> bringing simply two together should not be as major a problem as it is
>>> (appears to be).  I don't thing Bill Gate's people really thought this
>>> through very carefully.   Any way, will wade - again and again - through
>>> ezlan.  Maybe, just maybe a solution will surface.
>>>
>>> A good weekend to you.
>>>
>>> Wayne
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "Jack (MVP-Networking)." <J***@DiscussionGroup.com> wrote in message
>>> news:%23dhF89$wGHA.1284@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>> Hi
>>>>
>>>> If there were one cause and one answer that solves your problem, you
>>>> would be correct in your comment.
>>>>
>>>> However, this is not the case the problem that you encounter can be
>>>> caused by variety of issues in the computer Hardware OS, and other
>>>> software applications.
>>>>
>>>> When you go to a doctor office and complain about general pain the in
>>>> most cases the physician needs to conduct tests to find the cause of
>>>> the pain in order to provide remedy.
>>>>
>>>> It is impossible to account to every combination of hardware and
>>>> software setting especially when the products are programmed /built by
>>>> variety of manufacturers.
>>>>
>>>> The pages on www.ezlan.net and similar pages on other member's sites is
>>>> a product of our experience with many systems and variety of hardware
>>>> and thus might have a higher probability to solve problems that are not
>>>> solved by the support of a single provider.
>>>>
>>>> Such pages usually might point to the right direction, and usually help
>>>> people who are willing to learn more and help themselves, rather than
>>>> providing an instant (none existing) answers.
>>>>
>>>> That is my way of doing it. I get a lot of praise, and occasional
>>>> complains. Given that it is free, No Ads, or any other commercial
>>>> solicitation.  It costing me money, and does not provide income. So all
>>>> in all, it is not so bad.
>>>>
>>>> However, occasionally there is No substitute to the in vivo work of a
>>>> professional to solve complicated "Glitches".
>>>>
>>>> Jack (MVP-Networking).
>>>>
>>>> "Wayne G. Dengel" <wgd.roam***@verizon.net> wrote in message
>>>> news:fjOFg.1922$u1.1612@trnddc05...
>>>>> Jack ~ I might not be the most capable person in the world, the
>>>>> brightess star in the sky; however . . . .  I am finding, seeing MANY
>>>>> posts of this SAME type.  Isn't there a common thread to fix this
>>>>> problem?   I have gone the ezlan route as you suggest to all who post
>>>>> as this person did, in my case without success.  The 'filtering'
>>>>> process may have a few holes in it(??).
>>>>>
>>>>> MS's 'quick and easy' way to set up a wireless network, in mine and
>>>>> many posters, two computers total, simply does not work.  Why?  I have
>>>>> two machines.  One is brand new - XP-Media, the other XP-Hm (just
>>>>> repaired also inclds SP2). 'A' "sees" 'B', but 'B' does not see 'A'.
>>>>> 'B' sees USBd printers on 'A'.
>>>>>
>>>>> Looking for a common thread (to repair this problem), in advance,
>>>>> Thank You.
>>>>>
>>>>> Wayne
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Jack (MVP-Networking)." <J***@DiscussionGroup.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:uwsjRT6wGHA.5044@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>>>> Hi
>>>>>> Successful Sharing involves some general consideration in Network
>>>>>> settings, http://www.ezlan.net/sharing.html
>>>>>> As well as specific adjustment of each computer according to what is
>>>>>> allowed to be shared.
>>>>>> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;304040
>>>>>> Jack (MVP-Networking).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "shaoen01" <shaoe***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:545F83AE-4851-49CA-9CE3-6042A329EF8B@microsoft.com...
>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I have 2 computers and both are using Win Xp Pro SP2 OS. My desktop
>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>> connected to my router via cable and my labtop is connected via
>>>>>>> built-in
>>>>>>> wireless card. Previously, i setup everything and both computers are
>>>>>>> able to
>>>>>>> work access and modify each other's shared files.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> But i do not know what software i may have installed, now both are
>>>>>>> able to
>>>>>>> see each other in my network places but when i click to attempt to
>>>>>>> access
>>>>>>> that computer it gives an error message:
>>>>>>> "\\Labtop is not accessible. You might not have permission to use
>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>> network resource. Contact the administrator of this server to find
>>>>>>> out if you
>>>>>>> have access permissions.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The network path was not found."
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I am sure both computers are connected to the router and both are
>>>>>>> able to
>>>>>>> connect to the internet. For checking purposes, i even disabled
>>>>>>> Windows
>>>>>>> Firewall and my own ZoneAlarm Firewall as well. However, i left my
>>>>>>> Grisoft
>>>>>>> AVG Anti-virus running.  And don't think AVG is the one that's
>>>>>>> causing the
>>>>>>> problems because it was working fine.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> However, i did note a difference between my labtop and desktop.
>>>>>>> When i run
>>>>>>> "cmd" in command prompt >type ipconfig /all
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I noticed that under windows ip configurations,  my desktop's node
>>>>>>> type is
>>>>>>> "Unknown" but my labtop's node type is "peer to peer". Anyone know
>>>>>>> if this
>>>>>>> might be a problem?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> And i have read Practicalnetworking and some the other solutions
>>>>>>> that were
>>>>>>> provided to other wireless networking posts but still it does not
>>>>>>> help. Thanks
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
Author
21 Aug 2006 10:12 PM
Wayne G. Dengel
Jack ~ I thought through your reply.  Your anology is not very good.  There
is very little that the battery connects to.  A non-starting car - starter
will not crank over - has a very small tree of solutions, very small.

MS's means to make a simple two-machine system work, Ezlan's tree is very
large.  And Mr. Gate's has the audacity to call the wireless network install
simple.  Judging by the number of Microsoft clients with this problem,
Microsoft needs to clean up their act,so to speak.  I will wager you, your
most favorite McDonalds and a family's work of Happy Meals, if Bill'speople
were to put their heads together, they could come up with a simple,
few-branches tree to help the thousands of us with this simple, two-machine
network.

I realize that you and other MVPs might not be happy with the above.
However, the reality is that MS is not helpful at all.  What I could do is
pay a "consultant" one-hundred dollars for the first hour and have him/her
visit my house and fix the problem.  However, I do believe that this is not
what Mr. Gates had in mind when his troopers wrote under "My Network
Places", "Set upa wireless network for a home or small office", a poor
application indeed. And judging by the number of posts on this subject, I am
not too far off the road.

Kind Regards   :-)  ,
Wayne G. Dengel
Sarasota, FL


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"Jack (MVP-Networking)." <J***@DiscussionGroup.com> wrote in message
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> Hi
> Ok
> You get up in the morning and your car does not start, the starter does
> not crank.
> You open the hood and look at the battery's cables, and they look OK.
> You have a gizmo to check the Battery, and it says that the battery is
> charged.
> At this point, there two options.
> 1.  Learn how to be an Auto Mechanic.
> 2.  Call your Auto Mechanic.
> Regards.
> Jack (MVP-Networking).
>
> "Wayne G. Dengel" <wgd.roam***@verizon.net> wrote in message
> news:3EWFg.1941$hP6.254@trnddc04...
>> BTW - ezlan could have offered self-contained help.  In preparation to
>> find a fix, they say "remove this, remove that.." etc.   'how' links
>> would be helpful.   Ezlan was not written for the novice.  Networking
>> today is a universal function.  Ezlan could make is easy(ier), more user
>> friendly.
>>
>> Wayne
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "Wayne G. Dengel" <wgd.roam***@verizon.net> wrote in message
>> news:WzWFg.1940$hP6.1017@trnddc04...
>>> Hi Jack:
>>>
>>> I totally agree with what you say.  It just seems that starting out
>>> w/two 'virgin', fresh out-of-the-box machines with unadulterated XP OSs,
>>> bringing simply two together should not be as major a problem as it is
>>> (appears to be).  I don't thing Bill Gate's people really thought this
>>> through very carefully.   Any way, will wade - again and again - through
>>> ezlan.  Maybe, just maybe a solution will surface.
>>>
>>> A good weekend to you.
>>>
>>> Wayne
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "Jack (MVP-Networking)." <J***@DiscussionGroup.com> wrote in message
>>> news:%23dhF89$wGHA.1284@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>> Hi
>>>>
>>>> If there were one cause and one answer that solves your problem, you
>>>> would be correct in your comment.
>>>>
>>>> However, this is not the case the problem that you encounter can be
>>>> caused by variety of issues in the computer Hardware OS, and other
>>>> software applications.
>>>>
>>>> When you go to a doctor office and complain about general pain the in
>>>> most cases the physician needs to conduct tests to find the cause of
>>>> the pain in order to provide remedy.
>>>>
>>>> It is impossible to account to every combination of hardware and
>>>> software setting especially when the products are programmed /built by
>>>> variety of manufacturers.
>>>>
>>>> The pages on www.ezlan.net and similar pages on other member's sites is
>>>> a product of our experience with many systems and variety of hardware
>>>> and thus might have a higher probability to solve problems that are not
>>>> solved by the support of a single provider.
>>>>
>>>> Such pages usually might point to the right direction, and usually help
>>>> people who are willing to learn more and help themselves, rather than
>>>> providing an instant (none existing) answers.
>>>>
>>>> That is my way of doing it. I get a lot of praise, and occasional
>>>> complains. Given that it is free, No Ads, or any other commercial
>>>> solicitation.  It costing me money, and does not provide income. So all
>>>> in all, it is not so bad.
>>>>
>>>> However, occasionally there is No substitute to the in vivo work of a
>>>> professional to solve complicated "Glitches".
>>>>
>>>> Jack (MVP-Networking).
>>>>
>>>> "Wayne G. Dengel" <wgd.roam***@verizon.net> wrote in message
>>>> news:fjOFg.1922$u1.1612@trnddc05...
>>>>> Jack ~ I might not be the most capable person in the world, the
>>>>> brightess star in the sky; however . . . .  I am finding, seeing MANY
>>>>> posts of this SAME type.  Isn't there a common thread to fix this
>>>>> problem?   I have gone the ezlan route as you suggest to all who post
>>>>> as this person did, in my case without success.  The 'filtering'
>>>>> process may have a few holes in it(??).
>>>>>
>>>>> MS's 'quick and easy' way to set up a wireless network, in mine and
>>>>> many posters, two computers total, simply does not work.  Why?  I have
>>>>> two machines.  One is brand new - XP-Media, the other XP-Hm (just
>>>>> repaired also inclds SP2). 'A' "sees" 'B', but 'B' does not see 'A'.
>>>>> 'B' sees USBd printers on 'A'.
>>>>>
>>>>> Looking for a common thread (to repair this problem), in advance,
>>>>> Thank You.
>>>>>
>>>>> Wayne
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Jack (MVP-Networking)." <J***@DiscussionGroup.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:uwsjRT6wGHA.5044@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>>>> Hi
>>>>>> Successful Sharing involves some general consideration in Network
>>>>>> settings, http://www.ezlan.net/sharing.html
>>>>>> As well as specific adjustment of each computer according to what is
>>>>>> allowed to be shared.
>>>>>> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;304040
>>>>>> Jack (MVP-Networking).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "shaoen01" <shaoe***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:545F83AE-4851-49CA-9CE3-6042A329EF8B@microsoft.com...
>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I have 2 computers and both are using Win Xp Pro SP2 OS. My desktop
>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>> connected to my router via cable and my labtop is connected via
>>>>>>> built-in
>>>>>>> wireless card. Previously, i setup everything and both computers are
>>>>>>> able to
>>>>>>> work access and modify each other's shared files.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> But i do not know what software i may have installed, now both are
>>>>>>> able to
>>>>>>> see each other in my network places but when i click to attempt to
>>>>>>> access
>>>>>>> that computer it gives an error message:
>>>>>>> "\\Labtop is not accessible. You might not have permission to use
>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>> network resource. Contact the administrator of this server to find
>>>>>>> out if you
>>>>>>> have access permissions.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The network path was not found."
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I am sure both computers are connected to the router and both are
>>>>>>> able to
>>>>>>> connect to the internet. For checking purposes, i even disabled
>>>>>>> Windows
>>>>>>> Firewall and my own ZoneAlarm Firewall as well. However, i left my
>>>>>>> Grisoft
>>>>>>> AVG Anti-virus running.  And don't think AVG is the one that's
>>>>>>> causing the
>>>>>>> problems because it was working fine.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> However, i did note a difference between my labtop and desktop.
>>>>>>> When i run
>>>>>>> "cmd" in command prompt >type ipconfig /all
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I noticed that under windows ip configurations,  my desktop's node
>>>>>>> type is
>>>>>>> "Unknown" but my labtop's node type is "peer to peer". Anyone know
>>>>>>> if this
>>>>>>> might be a problem?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> And i have read Practicalnetworking and some the other solutions
>>>>>>> that were
>>>>>>> provided to other wireless networking posts but still it does not
>>>>>>> help. Thanks
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>