> I have just bought a new Belkin Wireless G Router, which has
> connections
>   on the back that look like large telephone adaptors X 4 for
> connections to computers, and one for connection to modem, ( and power
> and USB printer). I have Windows XP Home. I have a Motorola SB 4100
> modem which, at present, I connect to my main computer with a wire
> that has a USB at the computer end, and a ?slightly fatter squarer
> connection at the modem end: the modem also has one of the thicker
> telephone type sockets, which i dont use at present, and the internet
> comes down a wire with an aerial type fitting! ( heaven help me ) I
> have a Gigabit Card which has a thicker type telephone opening on the
> back of my computer. Is that all clear!!?
>
> Now I have tried connecting the telephone type opening on the modem,
> to the Gigabyte opening on the computer, and nothing happens. I can
> only seem to pass information from the modem to the computer through
> the USB/thicker type connection. But the Belkin does not have a USB
> connection.
>
> Can I buy a cable that will do the job, or am I missing something. I
> feel too embarrassed to go to the shop at present coz the salesman
> gave me the impression it would be a doddle to set up!!
>
> Thanks for any advice, and sorry I dont have the correct terms for the
> type of connections etc.

> CJ wrote:
>
>
>>I have just bought a new Belkin Wireless G Router, which has
>>connections
>>  on the back that look like large telephone adaptors X 4 for
>>connections to computers, and one for connection to modem, ( and power
>>and USB printer). I have Windows XP Home. I have a Motorola SB 4100
>>modem which, at present, I connect to my main computer with a wire
>>that has a USB at the computer end, and a ?slightly fatter squarer
>>connection at the modem end: the modem also has one of the thicker
>>telephone type sockets, which i dont use at present, and the internet
>>comes down a wire with an aerial type fitting! ( heaven help me ) I
>>have a Gigabit Card which has a thicker type telephone opening on the
>>back of my computer. Is that all clear!!?
>>
>>Now I have tried connecting the telephone type opening on the modem,
>>to the Gigabyte opening on the computer, and nothing happens. I can
>>only seem to pass information from the modem to the computer through
>>the USB/thicker type connection. But the Belkin does not have a USB
>>connection.
>>
>>Can I buy a cable that will do the job, or am I missing something. I
>>feel too embarrassed to go to the shop at present coz the salesman
>>gave me the impression it would be a doddle to set up!!
>>
>>Thanks for any advice, and sorry I dont have the correct terms for the
>>type of connections etc.
>
>
> Don't be embarrassed. It's OK not to know this stuff; we all have our
> areas of expertise. This is your modem, right?
>
> http://broadband.motorola.com/noflash/sb4100.html
>
> First of all, it is always better to connect your modem with ethernet,
> not usb. Since the modem has an ethernet connection and your computer
> has an ethernet card, this is what you'll use. So do this first to make
> sure you have Internet connectivity:
>
> 1. Remove the usb cable from the modem to your computer.
> 2. Connect an ethernet cable (cat 5e) from your modem to your computer.
> 3. You will then have two cables connected to the modem - one going from
> the DSL port to the telephone jack and one going from the ethernet
> (lan) port to your computer's ethernet network adapter. Probably an
> ethernet cable came with your Belkin and you can use that for this at
> this time. Make sure you leave the DSL cable plugged into the correct
> port on the modem going to the telephone wall jack.
>
> You may need to reboot your computer. You should now have Internet
> connectivity and I'll assume you do. You may have used the wrong type
> of cable when you tried before. You will need to have a total of two
> ethernet cables to set up the router so if an ethernet cable didn't
> come with the router (and it probably did), you'll need to buy one.
>
> Now you can set up your Belkin according to the directions it came with.
> You will be leaving the DSL cable on the modem alone and connecting the
> ethernet cable from the modem's ethernet port to the Internet port on
> the router. You'll connect the second ethernet cable from one of the
> router's lan ports to your computer's ethernet network adapter.
>
> Malke

"CJ" <cmj***@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
news:eDW4GHA5GHA.1252@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> Malke wrote:
>> CJ wrote:
>>
>>
>>>I have just bought a new Belkin Wireless G Router, which has
>>>connections
>>>  on the back that look like large telephone adaptors X 4 for
>>>connections to computers, and one for connection to modem, ( and power
>>>and USB printer). I have Windows XP Home. I have a Motorola SB 4100
>>>modem which, at present, I connect to my main computer with a wire
>>>that has a USB at the computer end, and a ?slightly fatter squarer
>>>connection at the modem end: the modem also has one of the thicker
>>>telephone type sockets, which i dont use at present, and the internet
>>>comes down a wire with an aerial type fitting! ( heaven help me ) I
>>>have a Gigabit Card which has a thicker type telephone opening on the
>>>back of my computer. Is that all clear!!?
>>>
>>>Now I have tried connecting the telephone type opening on the modem,
>>>to the Gigabyte opening on the computer, and nothing happens. I can
>>>only seem to pass information from the modem to the computer through
>>>the USB/thicker type connection. But the Belkin does not have a USB
>>>connection.
>>>
>>>Can I buy a cable that will do the job, or am I missing something. I
>>>feel too embarrassed to go to the shop at present coz the salesman
>>>gave me the impression it would be a doddle to set up!!
>>>
>>>Thanks for any advice, and sorry I dont have the correct terms for the
>>>type of connections etc.
>>
>>
>> Don't be embarrassed. It's OK not to know this stuff; we all have our
>> areas of expertise. This is your modem, right?
>>
>> http://broadband.motorola.com/noflash/sb4100.html
>>
>> First of all, it is always better to connect your modem with ethernet,
>> not usb. Since the modem has an ethernet connection and your computer
>> has an ethernet card, this is what you'll use. So do this first to make
>> sure you have Internet connectivity:
>>
>> 1. Remove the usb cable from the modem to your computer.
>> 2. Connect an ethernet cable (cat 5e) from your modem to your computer.
>> 3. You will then have two cables connected to the modem - one going from
>> the DSL port to the telephone jack and one going from the ethernet
>> (lan) port to your computer's ethernet network adapter. Probably an
>> ethernet cable came with your Belkin and you can use that for this at
>> this time. Make sure you leave the DSL cable plugged into the correct
>> port on the modem going to the telephone wall jack.
>>
>> You may need to reboot your computer. You should now have Internet
>> connectivity and I'll assume you do. You may have used the wrong type
>> of cable when you tried before. You will need to have a total of two
>> ethernet cables to set up the router so if an ethernet cable didn't
>> come with the router (and it probably did), you'll need to buy one.
>>
>> Now you can set up your Belkin according to the directions it came with.
>> You will be leaving the DSL cable on the modem alone and connecting the
>> ethernet cable from the modem's ethernet port to the Internet port on
>> the router. You'll connect the second ethernet cable from one of the
>> router's lan ports to your computer's ethernet network adapter.
>>
>> Malke
>
>
> Thank you for your quick reply. Fortunately, I had a spare Ethernet to
> Ethernet cable, so I could set it up as you suggested. However, there was
> NOT connectivity.
>
> When I used the Ethernet cable, to either connect directly to the
> computer, or through the router, my computer would not "see" the modem in
> the device manager,therefore would not load up the internet, but as soon
> as I used the USB cable, it did. Does that mean that the Ethernet slot in
> the modem is defective, or that it is a bit old, and I need to update? I
> am thinking that I might take the router back( only just opened) and ask
> to have one with a combined modem and router, would that be reasonable.
>
> Thanks again for your help
>
>
> CJ
>
>

>
>> Thank you for your quick reply. Fortunately, I had a spare Ethernet
>> to Ethernet cable, so I could set it up as you suggested. However,
>> there was NOT connectivity.
>>
>> When I used the Ethernet cable, to either connect directly to the
>> computer, or through the router, my computer would not "see" the
>> modem in the device manager,therefore would not load up the internet,
>> but as soon as I used the USB cable, it did. Does that mean that the
>> Ethernet slot in the modem is defective, or that it is a bit old, and
>> I need to update? I am thinking that I might take the router back(
>> only just opened) and ask to have one with a combined modem and
>> router, would that be reasonable.

> I suspect that you might have to load some software for the ethernet
> card to see the modem. Did you get a CD with it? If not, or you have
> lost it, go to the manufacturers web site and see if you can down load
> it.

> Malke wrote:
>
>> CJ wrote:
>>
>>
>>> I have just bought a new Belkin Wireless G Router, which has
>>> connections
>>>  on the back that look like large telephone adaptors X 4 for
>>> connections to computers, and one for connection to modem, ( and power
>>> and USB printer). I have Windows XP Home. I have a Motorola SB 4100
>>> modem which, at present, I connect to my main computer with a wire
>>> that has a USB at the computer end, and a ?slightly fatter squarer
>>> connection at the modem end: the modem also has one of the thicker
>>> telephone type sockets, which i dont use at present, and the internet
>>> comes down a wire with an aerial type fitting! ( heaven help me ) I
>>> have a Gigabit Card which has a thicker type telephone opening on the
>>> back of my computer. Is that all clear!!?
>>>
>>> Now I have tried connecting the telephone type opening on the modem,
>>> to the Gigabyte opening on the computer, and nothing happens. I can
>>> only seem to pass information from the modem to the computer through
>>> the USB/thicker type connection. But the Belkin does not have a USB
>>> connection.
>>>
>>> Can I buy a cable that will do the job, or am I missing something. I
>>> feel too embarrassed to go to the shop at present coz the salesman
>>> gave me the impression it would be a doddle to set up!!
>>>
>>> Thanks for any advice, and sorry I dont have the correct terms for the
>>> type of connections etc.
>>
>>
>>
>> Don't be embarrassed. It's OK not to know this stuff; we all have our
>> areas of expertise. This is your modem, right?
>>
>> http://broadband.motorola.com/noflash/sb4100.html
>>
>> First of all, it is always better to connect your modem with ethernet,
>> not usb. Since the modem has an ethernet connection and your computer
>> has an ethernet card, this is what you'll use. So do this first to make
>> sure you have Internet connectivity:
>>
>> 1. Remove the usb cable from the modem to your computer.
>> 2. Connect an ethernet cable (cat 5e) from your modem to your computer.
>> 3. You will then have two cables connected to the modem - one going from
>> the DSL port to the telephone jack and one going from the ethernet
>> (lan) port to your computer's ethernet network adapter. Probably an
>> ethernet cable came with your Belkin and you can use that for this at
>> this time. Make sure you leave the DSL cable plugged into the correct
>> port on the modem going to the telephone wall jack.
>>
>> You may need to reboot your computer. You should now have Internet
>> connectivity and I'll assume you do. You may have used the wrong type
>> of cable when you tried before. You will need to have a total of two
>> ethernet cables to set up the router so if an ethernet cable didn't
>> come with the router (and it probably did), you'll need to buy one.
>>
>> Now you can set up your Belkin according to the directions it came with.
>> You will be leaving the DSL cable on the modem alone and connecting the
>> ethernet cable from the modem's ethernet port to the Internet port on
>> the router. You'll connect the second ethernet cable from one of the
>> router's lan ports to your computer's ethernet network adapter.
>>
>> Malke
>
>
>
> Thank you for your quick reply. Fortunately, I had a spare Ethernet to
> Ethernet cable, so I could set it up as you suggested. However, there
> was NOT connectivity.
>
> When I used the Ethernet cable, to either connect directly to the
> computer, or through the router, my computer would not "see" the modem
> in the device manager,therefore would not load up the internet, but as
> soon as I used the USB cable, it did. Does that mean that the Ethernet
> slot in the modem is defective, or that it is a bit old, and I need to
> update? I am thinking that I might take the router back( only just
> opened) and ask to have one with a combined modem and router, would that
> be reasonable.
>
> Thanks again for your help
>
>
> CJ
>
>

> Lem wrote:
> 
>
>>In addition to Gordon's and Malke's suggestions, also make sure that
>>your Ethernet adapter is turned on.  Go to Start > Control Panel >
>>Network and Internet Connections > Network Connections.
>>
>>You should see an icon for "Local Area Connection."  Does it say
>>"Connected," "Disconnected," or "Disabled"?  Right click on the icon
>>and
>>if there is a menu item to "enable" click on that.  If it alread is
>>enabled, click on "properties" and let us know what is listed on the
>>"General" tab under the heading "This connection uses the following
>>items."
>
>
> Excellent point, Lem. I clean forgot about suggesting that the OP make
> sure the ethernet adapter is enabled. Thanks for the reminder!
>
> Malke

>> Malke
> Thanks again to all re your interest, sorry re delay in reply.
>
> I phoned the ISP and they suggested I disconnect the USB, reconnect
> the ethernet, and reboot, and if that did not work then to try
> run->cmd -> ipconfig /release (i think!), and then switch of the
> modem, unplug, and then run ->ipconfig / renew (?), and hey presto, it
> worked!! All courtesy of a low dial number instead of the premium
> £1.50 per minute , maybe because she felt sorry don't know.
>
> Now...
>
> I have the Belkin Control panel software. What I now can't be sure of
> is whether the wireless connection is secure. I can access the
> internet on the wireless computer, thats now resolved. When I look for
> available networks, it says, words to the effect " windows cant do
> this as it is controlled by another program.."
>
> How can I be certain that the wireless connection is secure, and how
> do I go about it. Thanks again for all your support.

> Malke wrote:
>> Lem wrote:
>> 
>>
>>> In addition to Gordon's and Malke's suggestions, also make sure that
>>> your Ethernet adapter is turned on.  Go to Start > Control Panel >
>>> Network and Internet Connections > Network Connections.
>>>
>>> You should see an icon for "Local Area Connection."  Does it say
>>> "Connected," "Disconnected," or "Disabled"?  Right click on the icon
>>> and
>>> if there is a menu item to "enable" click on that.  If it alread is
>>> enabled, click on "properties" and let us know what is listed on the
>>> "General" tab under the heading "This connection uses the following
>>> items."
>>
>>
>> Excellent point, Lem. I clean forgot about suggesting that the OP make
>> sure the ethernet adapter is enabled. Thanks for the reminder!
>>
>> Malke
> Thanks again to all re your interest, sorry re delay in reply.
>
> I phoned the ISP and they suggested I disconnect the USB, reconnect the
> ethernet, and reboot, and if that did not work then to try run->cmd ->
> ipconfig /release (i think!), and then switch of the modem, unplug, and
> then run ->ipconfig / renew (?), and hey presto, it worked!! All
> courtesy of a low dial number instead of the premium £1.50 per minute ,
> maybe because she felt sorry don't know.
>
> Now...
>
> I have the Belkin Control panel software. What I now can't be sure of is
> whether the wireless connection is secure. I can access the internet on
> the wireless computer, thats now resolved. When I look for available
> networks, it says, words to the effect " windows cant do this as it is
> controlled by another program.."
>
> How can I be certain that the wireless connection is secure, and how do
> I go about it. Thanks again for all your support.
>
>
> CJ

> CJ wrote:
>
>> Malke wrote:
>>
>>> Lem wrote:
>>> 
>>>
>>>> In addition to Gordon's and Malke's suggestions, also make sure that
>>>> your Ethernet adapter is turned on.  Go to Start > Control Panel >
>>>> Network and Internet Connections > Network Connections.
>>>>
>>>> You should see an icon for "Local Area Connection."  Does it say
>>>> "Connected," "Disconnected," or "Disabled"?  Right click on the icon
>>>> and
>>>> if there is a menu item to "enable" click on that.  If it alread is
>>>> enabled, click on "properties" and let us know what is listed on the
>>>> "General" tab under the heading "This connection uses the following
>>>> items."
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Excellent point, Lem. I clean forgot about suggesting that the OP make
>>> sure the ethernet adapter is enabled. Thanks for the reminder!
>>>
>>> Malke
>>
>> Thanks again to all re your interest, sorry re delay in reply.
>>
>> I phoned the ISP and they suggested I disconnect the USB, reconnect
>> the ethernet, and reboot, and if that did not work then to try
>> run->cmd -> ipconfig /release (i think!), and then switch of the
>> modem, unplug, and then run ->ipconfig / renew (?), and hey presto, it
>> worked!! All courtesy of a low dial number instead of the premium
>> £1.50 per minute , maybe because she felt sorry don't know.
>>
>> Now...
>>
>> I have the Belkin Control panel software. What I now can't be sure of
>> is whether the wireless connection is secure. I can access the
>> internet on the wireless computer, thats now resolved. When I look for
>> available networks, it says, words to the effect " windows cant do
>> this as it is controlled by another program.."
>>
>> How can I be certain that the wireless connection is secure, and how
>> do I go about it. Thanks again for all your support.
>>
>>
>> CJ
>
>
> I'm confused.  In your initial post, you did say that you had a Belkin
> wireless router, but you also asked how to connect it to your computer
> with an Ethernet cable.  What wireless connection are you now talking
> about?  Another computer?  If so, you haven't mentioned what model of
> wireless adapter you have in that other computer.
>
> In general, there are two ends to any wireless connection.  The router
> is one end and the "wireless network adapter" (connected to or built in
> to your computer) is the other.  These adapters are controlled by small
> utility programs.  Windows XP has one built in, but often the adapter
> manufacturers supply their own version.  Only one of these utilities (at
> a time) can control the adapter.  I don't know what the "Belkin Control
> Panel" is, but sounds as if you have things set so that the mfr's
> utility is in charge.  Typically, there is a way in these utilities to
> (a) look for available networks and (b) disable them and allow Windows
> XP to control things.  If you specify the make and model of the adapter,
> we may be able to provide more detail.
>
> As to security, you need to set that up in the router.  If you didn't do
> it, it's not secure.  Generally, this requires you to log into the
> router's configuration pages (open a web browser on the computer that's
> connected to the router by the Ethernet cable and enter 192.168.2.1 in
> the address bar and press {enter].  You should see a login page.  Unless
> you changed it, the Belkin login password is blank.  Just click the
> "submit" button.  Then go to the "Wireless" section.  Here, you should
> change the router's "SSID" (the name by which you will recognize your
> network) from its default (belkin54g) to something unique (like CJsNet).
>  Click "apply changes."  You should also find the "wireless security" or
> "encryption" pages.
>
> On Belkin routers, your encryption choices include WEP (64 or 128 bit)
> and WPA-PSK (Home no server).  For the latter, you will also be offered
> the choice of TKIP or AES encryption.  Assuming that you bought the
> wireless adapter at about the same time you bought the router, choose
> WPA-PSK with AES encryption.  This is the strongest encryption you have
> available.  Pick a reasonably long and complicated password, but one
> that you can remember.  See your router documentation for further detail
> (it's on the CD that came with the router).

> Lem wrote:
>> CJ wrote:
>>
>>> Malke wrote:
>>>
>>>> Lem wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>
>>>>> In addition to Gordon's and Malke's suggestions, also make sure that
>>>>> your Ethernet adapter is turned on.  Go to Start > Control Panel >
>>>>> Network and Internet Connections > Network Connections.
>>>>>
>>>>> You should see an icon for "Local Area Connection."  Does it say
>>>>> "Connected," "Disconnected," or "Disabled"?  Right click on the icon
>>>>> and
>>>>> if there is a menu item to "enable" click on that.  If it alread is
>>>>> enabled, click on "properties" and let us know what is listed on the
>>>>> "General" tab under the heading "This connection uses the following
>>>>> items."
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Excellent point, Lem. I clean forgot about suggesting that the OP make
>>>> sure the ethernet adapter is enabled. Thanks for the reminder!
>>>>
>>>> Malke
>>>
>>> Thanks again to all re your interest, sorry re delay in reply.
>>>
>>> I phoned the ISP and they suggested I disconnect the USB, reconnect
>>> the ethernet, and reboot, and if that did not work then to try
>>> run->cmd -> ipconfig /release (i think!), and then switch of the
>>> modem, unplug, and then run ->ipconfig / renew (?), and hey presto,
>>> it worked!! All courtesy of a low dial number instead of the premium
>>> £1.50 per minute , maybe because she felt sorry don't know.
>>>
>>> Now...
>>>
>>> I have the Belkin Control panel software. What I now can't be sure of
>>> is whether the wireless connection is secure. I can access the
>>> internet on the wireless computer, thats now resolved. When I look
>>> for available networks, it says, words to the effect " windows cant
>>> do this as it is controlled by another program.."
>>>
>>> How can I be certain that the wireless connection is secure, and how
>>> do I go about it. Thanks again for all your support.
>>>
>>>
>>> CJ
>>
>>
>> I'm confused.  In your initial post, you did say that you had a Belkin
>> wireless router, but you also asked how to connect it to your computer
>> with an Ethernet cable.  What wireless connection are you now talking
>> about?  Another computer?  If so, you haven't mentioned what model of
>> wireless adapter you have in that other computer.
>>
>> In general, there are two ends to any wireless connection.  The router
>> is one end and the "wireless network adapter" (connected to or built
>> in to your computer) is the other.  These adapters are controlled by
>> small utility programs.  Windows XP has one built in, but often the
>> adapter manufacturers supply their own version.  Only one of these
>> utilities (at a time) can control the adapter.  I don't know what the
>> "Belkin Control Panel" is, but sounds as if you have things set so
>> that the mfr's utility is in charge.  Typically, there is a way in
>> these utilities to (a) look for available networks and (b) disable
>> them and allow Windows XP to control things.  If you specify the make
>> and model of the adapter, we may be able to provide more detail.
>>
>> As to security, you need to set that up in the router.  If you didn't
>> do it, it's not secure.  Generally, this requires you to log into the
>> router's configuration pages (open a web browser on the computer
>> that's connected to the router by the Ethernet cable and enter
>> 192.168.2.1 in the address bar and press {enter].  You should see a
>> login page.  Unless you changed it, the Belkin login password is
>> blank.  Just click the "submit" button.  Then go to the "Wireless"
>> section.  Here, you should change the router's "SSID" (the name by
>> which you will recognize your network) from its default (belkin54g) to
>> something unique (like CJsNet).  Click "apply changes."  You should
>> also find the "wireless security" or "encryption" pages.
>>
>> On Belkin routers, your encryption choices include WEP (64 or 128 bit)
>> and WPA-PSK (Home no server).  For the latter, you will also be
>> offered the choice of TKIP or AES encryption.  Assuming that you
>> bought the wireless adapter at about the same time you bought the
>> router, choose WPA-PSK with AES encryption.  This is the strongest
>> encryption you have available.  Pick a reasonably long and complicated
>> password, but one that you can remember.  See your router
>> documentation for further detail (it's on the CD that came with the
>> router).
>
>
> its done!
>
> Fantastic, I followed the advice, and reset my router, and it is all
> working. I used your advice and also I checked the link
> http://www.cguy.net/wlan_home_net/ which was given in another posting. I
> never realised that when you typed in this ip number, it came up with
> all the configuration settings. I then made up a number for the
> password, went downstairs to my other computer ( which, sorry, I failed
> to mention, I was trying to be wireless with in the first place, using a
> Belkin adapter, which looks like an oversized memory stick on a stand),
> stopped the belkin Control panel, which made the windows wireless panel
> come up, pressed connect, typed in the password, and bingo!
>
> Thanks again to all your time and help here it really is appreciated.
>
>
> Colin
>