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7 Oct 2006 3:24 AM
bronxbabe
I would like to know if there is any way to disable my laptop's wifi.  I
don't want to be able to pick up other unsecured networks to surf internet. 
I went into Device Manager and disabled it, but upon boot, it is enabled
again.  Also, I'm unable to remove the card since it's internal.  The laptop
is a Dell Inspiron.

Is there anyway (or is this possible)?

Thanks in advance.

Author
7 Oct 2006 4:05 AM
LittleMoo
Just so long as you don't connect to those unsecured networks then you don't
have anything to worry about, only connect to yours and make sure that you
have WEP or WPA enabled on it.

You also realize that if you disable your wifi on your laptop, if you use a
wireless network at your house then you won't be able to use it anymore?

If you still want to disable it go to Control Panel -> Network Connections.
Right click on the one that says Wireless Network Connection and choose
Disable.

-Dan

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"bronxbabe" <bronxb***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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>I would like to know if there is any way to disable my laptop's wifi.  I
> don't want to be able to pick up other unsecured networks to surf
> internet.
> I went into Device Manager and disabled it, but upon boot, it is enabled
> again.  Also, I'm unable to remove the card since it's internal.  The
> laptop
> is a Dell Inspiron.
>
> Is there anyway (or is this possible)?
>
> Thanks in advance.
Author
8 Oct 2006 2:21 AM
bronxbabe
I don't want it to connect to my home network or my neighbor's.  I don't want
the laptop to be able to connect to the internet AT ALL.

Thanks again,

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"LittleMoo" wrote:

> Just so long as you don't connect to those unsecured networks then you don't
> have anything to worry about, only connect to yours and make sure that you
> have WEP or WPA enabled on it.
>
> You also realize that if you disable your wifi on your laptop, if you use a
> wireless network at your house then you won't be able to use it anymore?
>
> If you still want to disable it go to Control Panel -> Network Connections.
> Right click on the one that says Wireless Network Connection and choose
> Disable.
>
> -Dan
>
> "bronxbabe" <bronxb***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:A6084083-C7C7-41E3-82EF-D96B540CAC83@microsoft.com...
> >I would like to know if there is any way to disable my laptop's wifi.  I
> > don't want to be able to pick up other unsecured networks to surf
> > internet.
> > I went into Device Manager and disabled it, but upon boot, it is enabled
> > again.  Also, I'm unable to remove the card since it's internal.  The
> > laptop
> > is a Dell Inspiron.
> >
> > Is there anyway (or is this possible)?
> >
> > Thanks in advance.
>
>
>
Author
7 Oct 2006 10:44 AM
Sooner Al [MVP]
If your running XP you can configure Wireless Zero Configuration to *NOT*
connect to non-preferred networks. That works well for me...

http://tinyurl.com/krjwt

In the example I have my laptop configured for three networks I regualarly
connect to including my own, N4RF...

--

Al Jarvi (MS-MVP Windows Networking)

Please post *ALL* questions and replies to the news group for the
mutual benefit of all of us...
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"bronxbabe" <bronxb***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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>I would like to know if there is any way to disable my laptop's wifi.  I
> don't want to be able to pick up other unsecured networks to surf
> internet.
> I went into Device Manager and disabled it, but upon boot, it is enabled
> again.  Also, I'm unable to remove the card since it's internal.  The
> laptop
> is a Dell Inspiron.
>
> Is there anyway (or is this possible)?
>
> Thanks in advance.
Author
8 Oct 2006 2:18 AM
bronxbabe
I'll try this and see what happens.  The reason for this is that I don't want
my son to use the internet excessively.  So, I disconnected my wireless
router, but he is able to pick a neighbor's linksys (unsecured) signal and
surf.

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"Sooner Al [MVP]" wrote:

> If your running XP you can configure Wireless Zero Configuration to *NOT*
> connect to non-preferred networks. That works well for me...
>
> http://tinyurl.com/krjwt
>
> In the example I have my laptop configured for three networks I regualarly
> connect to including my own, N4RF...
>
> --
>
> Al Jarvi (MS-MVP Windows Networking)
>
> Please post *ALL* questions and replies to the news group for the
> mutual benefit of all of us...
> The MS-MVP Program - http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
> rights...
>
> "bronxbabe" <bronxb***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:A6084083-C7C7-41E3-82EF-D96B540CAC83@microsoft.com...
> >I would like to know if there is any way to disable my laptop's wifi.  I
> > don't want to be able to pick up other unsecured networks to surf
> > internet.
> > I went into Device Manager and disabled it, but upon boot, it is enabled
> > again.  Also, I'm unable to remove the card since it's internal.  The
> > laptop
> > is a Dell Inspiron.
> >
> > Is there anyway (or is this possible)?
> >
> > Thanks in advance.
>
>
>
Author
8 Oct 2006 11:14 AM
Sooner Al [MVP]
That is a bit different from what I thought your original intent was...

In that case I suggest you setup your son as a limited user and use parental
control software on the laptop to control his access to both the PC and the
public internet. You might check with your ISP because they may provide that
for free or at a reduced cost. Here is how I did that as one example...

http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13574572

NetNanny is another solution...note there are other commercial solutions
like this...

http://www.netnanny.com/p/page?sb=product

The MS Shared Computer Toolkit may also work for you...

http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/sharedaccess/default.mspx

--

Al Jarvi (MS-MVP Windows Networking)

Please post *ALL* questions and replies to the news group for the
mutual benefit of all of us...
The MS-MVP Program - http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
rights...

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"bronxbabe" <bronxb***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:3F4710C6-A7BF-4F1F-8DEA-E7048E47799E@microsoft.com...
> I'll try this and see what happens.  The reason for this is that I don't
> want
> my son to use the internet excessively.  So, I disconnected my wireless
> router, but he is able to pick a neighbor's linksys (unsecured) signal and
> surf.
>
> "Sooner Al [MVP]" wrote:
>
>> If your running XP you can configure Wireless Zero Configuration to *NOT*
>> connect to non-preferred networks. That works well for me...
>>
>> http://tinyurl.com/krjwt
>>
>> In the example I have my laptop configured for three networks I
>> regualarly
>> connect to including my own, N4RF...
>>
>> --
>>
>> Al Jarvi (MS-MVP Windows Networking)
>>
>> Please post *ALL* questions and replies to the news group for the
>> mutual benefit of all of us...
>> The MS-MVP Program - http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
>> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
>> rights...
>>
>> "bronxbabe" <bronxb***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:A6084083-C7C7-41E3-82EF-D96B540CAC83@microsoft.com...
>> >I would like to know if there is any way to disable my laptop's wifi.  I
>> > don't want to be able to pick up other unsecured networks to surf
>> > internet.
>> > I went into Device Manager and disabled it, but upon boot, it is
>> > enabled
>> > again.  Also, I'm unable to remove the card since it's internal.  The
>> > laptop
>> > is a Dell Inspiron.
>> >
>> > Is there anyway (or is this possible)?
>> >
>> > Thanks in advance.
>>
>>
>>
Author
8 Oct 2006 1:25 PM
Rich
On Sun, 8 Oct 2006 06:14:54 -0500, "Sooner Al [MVP]"
<Soone***@somewhere.net.invalid> wrote:

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>That is a bit different from what I thought your original intent was...
>
>In that case I suggest you setup your son as a limited user and use parental
>control software on the laptop to control his access to both the PC and the
>public internet. You might check with your ISP because they may provide that
>for free or at a reduced cost. Here is how I did that as one example...
>
>http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13574572
>
>NetNanny is another solution...note there are other commercial solutions
>like this...
>
>http://www.netnanny.com/p/page?sb=product
>
>The MS Shared Computer Toolkit may also work for you...
>
>http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/sharedaccess/default.mspx

all good ideas that you should look at.  but how about a low tech
solution like taking away the laptop and/or exercising a bit of
parental discipline?  how abour alerting the neighbor to what's going
on and assisting him, if needed, in securing his system? 

73,
rich, n9dko
Author
10 Oct 2006 2:58 AM
bronxbabe
(1) the laptop IS needed for school work; (2) he's not going to any
inappropriate content sites; and (3) he's just spending too much time surfing
while i'm at work and not getting his work done in a timely manner.  Also, i
don't know which neighbors' network is unsecured since there are several
houses surrounding us.

Thanks again,

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"Rich" wrote:

> On Sun, 8 Oct 2006 06:14:54 -0500, "Sooner Al [MVP]"
> <Soone***@somewhere.net.invalid> wrote:
>
> >That is a bit different from what I thought your original intent was...
> >
> >In that case I suggest you setup your son as a limited user and use parental
> >control software on the laptop to control his access to both the PC and the
> >public internet. You might check with your ISP because they may provide that
> >for free or at a reduced cost. Here is how I did that as one example...
> >
> >http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13574572
> >
> >NetNanny is another solution...note there are other commercial solutions
> >like this...
> >
> >http://www.netnanny.com/p/page?sb=product
> >
> >The MS Shared Computer Toolkit may also work for you...
> >
> >http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/sharedaccess/default.mspx
>
> all good ideas that you should look at.  but how about a low tech
> solution like taking away the laptop and/or exercising a bit of
> parental discipline?  how abour alerting the neighbor to what's going
> on and assisting him, if needed, in securing his system? 
>
> 73,
> rich, n9dko
>
Author
10 Oct 2006 5:07 AM
Dana
"bronxbabe" <bronxb***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:134D2D0E-7171-4C10-998A-17FB7D53D0F7@microsoft.com...
> (1) the laptop IS needed for school work; (2) he's not going to any
> inappropriate content sites; and (3) he's just spending too much time
surfing
> while i'm at work and not getting his work done in a timely manner.  Also,
i
> don't know which neighbors' network is unsecured since there are several
> houses surrounding us.

1) disable the laptop wireless adapter.
If your kid has admin rights to the laptop, he can change it back.
2)identify which neighbor has the wireless router and ask him to put some
security on it.
3)At a certain time everyday say 10pm lock take the laptop away from the
kid, homework should be done by then:) But you said you are at work so that
may be difficult.

As for the range of the wireless from the neighbor, unless he is trying to
make his router a public access point, he/she must be one of your closer
neighbors. You can ask your neighbors who has the wireless router and ask
them to put some security on it. You can remind them that anyone can grab
access to their network and use their dime to surf the web. As for your kid
I would use what he was going to get for allowance, or if he does not get
allowance and has a job, collect some money from him/her to give to the
neighbor for using their internet access.


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>
> Thanks again,
>
> "Rich" wrote:
>
> > On Sun, 8 Oct 2006 06:14:54 -0500, "Sooner Al [MVP]"
> > <Soone***@somewhere.net.invalid> wrote:
> >
> > >That is a bit different from what I thought your original intent was...
> > >
> > >In that case I suggest you setup your son as a limited user and use
parental
> > >control software on the laptop to control his access to both the PC and
the
> > >public internet. You might check with your ISP because they may provide
that
> > >for free or at a reduced cost. Here is how I did that as one example...
> > >
> > >http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13574572
> > >
> > >NetNanny is another solution...note there are other commercial
solutions
> > >like this...
> > >
> > >http://www.netnanny.com/p/page?sb=product
> > >
> > >The MS Shared Computer Toolkit may also work for you...
> > >
> > >http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/sharedaccess/default.mspx
> >
> > all good ideas that you should look at.  but how about a low tech
> > solution like taking away the laptop and/or exercising a bit of
> > parental discipline?  how abour alerting the neighbor to what's going
> > on and assisting him, if needed, in securing his system?
> >
> > 73,
> > rich, n9dko
> >
Author
11 Oct 2006 9:42 PM
Diamontina Cocktail
"bronxbabe" <bronxb***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:134D2D0E-7171-4C10-998A-17FB7D53D0F7@microsoft.com...
> (1) the laptop IS needed for school work; (2) he's not going to any
> inappropriate content sites; and (3) he's just spending too much time
> surfing
> while i'm at work and not getting his work done in a timely manner.  Also,
> i
> don't know which neighbors' network is unsecured since there are several
> houses surrounding us.
>

Then you have only this answer and it again depends on how knowledgeable
your son is:

1) Assign him a LOGON ID for him to use. Put a password on the normal one
and don't tell him what the password is. Make HIS account a LIMITED one.

2) On his account, disable access to Control Panel so he cant get in there
to fix anything.

3) On your account when he isn't allowed on Internet, disable wi-fi.

4) Boot into Safe Mode and make sure the Administrator account is ALSO
passworded so he cant use it to change everything back again.

Now when doing this, please note that you still have a WIRED network port
and a DIAL UP networking port on your computer. You will have to disable
both of them as well.

All of the above are now MUCH HARDER for him to get around but it still CAN
be gotten around by him if he knows a lot about computers. Only you know how
good he is with them.
Author
10 Oct 2006 2:51 AM
bronxbabe
The key here is that he's not using my ISP.  I disconnected my router, etc.
He's apparently picking up a neighbor's [unsecured] linksys signal.  That's
how he's surfing.  I've disabled wireless networking, went into properties,
advanced, auto-connect, etc.  but... he's still surfing.  i'm quite sure
there has to be a way of disabling his internal wireless card.

Thanks again,

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"Sooner Al [MVP]" wrote:

> That is a bit different from what I thought your original intent was...
>
> In that case I suggest you setup your son as a limited user and use parental
> control software on the laptop to control his access to both the PC and the
> public internet. You might check with your ISP because they may provide that
> for free or at a reduced cost. Here is how I did that as one example...
>
> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13574572
>
> NetNanny is another solution...note there are other commercial solutions
> like this...
>
> http://www.netnanny.com/p/page?sb=product
>
> The MS Shared Computer Toolkit may also work for you...
>
> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/sharedaccess/default.mspx
>
> --
>
> Al Jarvi (MS-MVP Windows Networking)
>
> Please post *ALL* questions and replies to the news group for the
> mutual benefit of all of us...
> The MS-MVP Program - http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
> rights...
>
> "bronxbabe" <bronxb***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:3F4710C6-A7BF-4F1F-8DEA-E7048E47799E@microsoft.com...
> > I'll try this and see what happens.  The reason for this is that I don't
> > want
> > my son to use the internet excessively.  So, I disconnected my wireless
> > router, but he is able to pick a neighbor's linksys (unsecured) signal and
> > surf.
> >
> > "Sooner Al [MVP]" wrote:
> >
> >> If your running XP you can configure Wireless Zero Configuration to *NOT*
> >> connect to non-preferred networks. That works well for me...
> >>
> >> http://tinyurl.com/krjwt
> >>
> >> In the example I have my laptop configured for three networks I
> >> regualarly
> >> connect to including my own, N4RF...
> >>
> >> --
> >>
> >> Al Jarvi (MS-MVP Windows Networking)
> >>
> >> Please post *ALL* questions and replies to the news group for the
> >> mutual benefit of all of us...
> >> The MS-MVP Program - http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
> >> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
> >> rights...
> >>
> >> "bronxbabe" <bronxb***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> news:A6084083-C7C7-41E3-82EF-D96B540CAC83@microsoft.com...
> >> >I would like to know if there is any way to disable my laptop's wifi.  I
> >> > don't want to be able to pick up other unsecured networks to surf
> >> > internet.
> >> > I went into Device Manager and disabled it, but upon boot, it is
> >> > enabled
> >> > again.  Also, I'm unable to remove the card since it's internal.  The
> >> > laptop
> >> > is a Dell Inspiron.
> >> >
> >> > Is there anyway (or is this possible)?
> >> >
> >> > Thanks in advance.
> >>
> >>
> >>
>
>
>
Author
11 Oct 2006 12:08 AM
Pavel A.
"bronxbabe" <bronxb***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:B62740F3-B539-48E4-9075-7A789B4F7B52@microsoft.com...
> The key here is that he's not using my ISP.  I disconnected my router, etc.
> He's apparently picking up a neighbor's [unsecured] linksys signal.  That's
> how he's surfing.  I've disabled wireless networking, went into properties,
> advanced, auto-connect, etc.  but... he's still surfing.  i'm quite sure
> there has to be a way of disabling his internal wireless card.

Well... actually, even when the internal card is disabled, or removed at all,
it still is possible to surf.  If you've got a smart kid and a decent laptop :)

--PA
Author
11 Oct 2006 9:36 PM
Diamontina Cocktail
"bronxbabe" <bronxb***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:3F4710C6-A7BF-4F1F-8DEA-E7048E47799E@microsoft.com...
> I'll try this and see what happens.  The reason for this is that I don't
> want
> my son to use the internet excessively.  So, I disconnected my wireless
> router, but he is able to pick a neighbor's linksys (unsecured) signal and
> surf.
>

Edit the profile of the neighbour's network on your own computer, add a
password to it when he isn't looking and then keep it. When your laptop
tries to connect, it wont because the password you put in isn't accepted at
the neighbour's router. Works for me.

This will only work if your son doesn't know how to fix that which is easy
to do.

You cannot actually disable your wi-fi if it is inbuilt if your son knows
how to enable it again though. All you can do is go ask the neighbour to
password their network as officially your son is stealing from them.
Author
7 Oct 2006 5:16 PM
Jack (MVP-Networking).
Hi
Uninstall any Wireless related utility, and similar services. Many Laptops
come with an array of "software" that is Wireless related, and is loaded at
startup by default.
Jack (MVP-Networking).

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"bronxbabe" <bronxb***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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>I would like to know if there is any way to disable my laptop's wifi.  I
> don't want to be able to pick up other unsecured networks to surf
> internet.
> I went into Device Manager and disabled it, but upon boot, it is enabled
> again.  Also, I'm unable to remove the card since it's internal.  The
> laptop
> is a Dell Inspiron.
>
> Is there anyway (or is this possible)?
>
> Thanks in advance.
Author
7 Oct 2006 5:43 PM
Pavel A.
"bronxbabe" <bronxb***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:A6084083-C7C7-41E3-82EF-D96B540CAC83@microsoft.com...
>I would like to know if there is any way to disable my laptop's wifi.  I
> don't want to be able to pick up other unsecured networks to surf internet.
> I went into Device Manager and disabled it, but upon boot, it is enabled
> again.  Also, I'm unable to remove the card since it's internal.  The laptop
> is a Dell Inspiron.
>
> Is there anyway (or is this possible)?

This is strange. AFAIK if you disable it in dev. manager, nothing in standard WinXP can
re-enable it  - unless Windows crashed and rebooted with last known good config.
I would ask Dell support whether some their bundled utility can do this.

Also you can turn off the radio. Most notebooks have some switch or Fn key that
disables wireless radio. This is intended exactly for situations when software
could break out of control.

Regards,
--PA