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15 Oct 2006 2:12 AM
Leanin' Cedar
Does this seem like it is worth the effort, my home LAN is slow?  Three
WinXP  PC's
Thanks
Bob


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>Like most of you, I have experienced (!) very slow local networking using
> "TCPIP only" once I introduced an XP box on my LAN (the traffic was
> excruciatingly slow from the XP box but not from the my Win98 boxes). For
> whatever reason, it seems that the TCPIP implementation in XP is routing
> local traffic through the Internet, which slows down LAN traffic to a
> crawl.
>
> I have 3 boxes: 1 XP Pro and 2 Win98. I use a network Hub (Intel Office
> Connect) and a Hardware Firewall (SonicWall SOHO/10) with cable modem
> access
> (Motorola CyberSurfer). My cable modem hooks to the firewall which itself
> is
> hooked to the Hub.Of course, each box is also hooked to the Hub. The
> hardware firewall serves as a router and a DHCP server. Each box accesses
> the Net directly. I do not use ICS (Internet Connection Sharing) or XP's
> software firewall. My LAN is setup as peer to peer as opposed to
> client/server. Peer to Peer seems to be the default setup.
>
> As a result of the difficulties encountered with "TCPIP only" for LAN
> traffic, I decided to use "NWLink IPX/SPX/Netbios compatible transport
> protocol" for LAN traffic. There are general rules to follow for any LAN
> setup. First, configure each box to use the same workgroup, such as "Home"
> or "House" or whatever else you want as long as it's the same for each
> box.
> Each box must also be configured with the same network protocols. Shares
> must be enabled for the files and printers you wish to share on each box.
> Software firewalls such as ZoneAlarm should be disabled until the LAN is
> configured and working. Once the LAN is configured and working, software
> firewalls can be re-activated but configured to allow local traffic
> otherwise local traffic will be blocked.
>
> To disable XP's software firewall, click on "Start" then "My Network
> places", then "View Network connections" on the top left pane, then click
> on
> your "Local Area Connection" to hi-light it, click "Change Settings of
> this
> connection" on the top left pane, click on the "Advanced" tab on top and
> uncheck the box next to "Protect my computer and network...". There you
> go,
> XP's software firewall is disabled!
>
> While you're still in the "Local Area Connection Properties" dialog box
> (on
> the XP machine), take a look at the window under "This connection uses the
> following items:", you'll see a list of protocols that are installed. If
> "NWLink IPX/SPX/Netbios compatible transport protocol" does not appear in
> this window, click on the "Install" button, then "Protocol", then
> "Microsoft" than "IPX/SPX/NetBios Compatible Transport Protocol" and take
> it
> from there!
>
> You must also install this protocol on each Win98 machines by clicking
> "Settings", then "Control Panel", then "Network", then the "Add" button,
> then "Protocol", then "Microsoft", then the "IPX/SPX Compatible Protocol".
> To get IPX/SPX to work on a network that includes an XP machine, you must
> activate NetBios and bind the NetBios protocol to "File and Printer
> sharing
> for Microsoft Network" as well as "Client for Microsoft Network" on each
> box
> on the network. I have uninstalled QOS on my XP machine as it serves no
> purpose. It seems that XP installs NetBios for IPX/SPX automatically once
> IPX/SPX is installed. IT'S NOT THE SAME WITH WIN98. In Win98, after
> installing the IPX/SPX protocol and re-booting, you have to click "Start",
> then "Settings", then "Control Panel", then "Network" and then, hi-light
> the
> "IPX/SPX protocol", click "Properties", click on the "NetBios" Tab on top
> and check the box "I want to enable NetBios over IPX/SPX". You must do
> this
> for each Win98 machines on your LAN. I don't know about WinMe, but I
> suspect
> that it is pretty much the same as in Win98.
>
> To look at bindings in XP, click on "Start", then "My network places",
> then
> "View Network Connections", then click on your "local area connection" to
> hi-light it. Once there, click on "Advanced" on the top menu bar and then
> on
> "Advanced Settings". You'll then see a tab on top called "Adapters and
> bindings". There you are! You'll see "File and Printer Sharing for
> Microsoft
> Networks" with the protocols that are bound to it. Ensure IPX/SPX is there
> and checked. Also, ensure TCPIP is unchecked as you do not want TCPIP for
> your LAN once you decide to use IPX/SPX. You will also see "Client for
> Microsoft Networks". It's the same thing there also: check IPX/SPX and
> uncheck TCPIP.
>
> Now close this dialog box. Hi-light your "local area connection" again and
> click "Change settings of this connection" on the top left hand pane.
> Click
> on "Internet Protocol (TCP/IP)", click on "Properties", click on the
> "Advanced" button on the General Tab page, click on the "WINS" tab on top,
> check the box that says "Disable NetBios over TCPIP". Remember, you do not
> need NetBios over TCPIP for your LAN if you use IPX/SPX. While you're
> there
> ("Advanced TCPIP Settings"), you might want to add a default gateway if
> your
> LAN is anything like mine by clicking on the "Ip Settings" tab on top,
> then
> the "Add" button and add your default gateway in the dialog box for this
> purpose (Mine is set at 192.168.168.168). Check the box entitled
> "Automatic
> Metric", if you do need to add a default gateway.
>
> To look at the bindings in Win98, click on "Start", then "Settings", then
> "Control Panel", then "Network", hi-light each protocol involved, then
> click
> "Properties", then click on the "Bindings" tab on top. For instance,
> hi-light the the "IPX/SPX compatible transport protocol", click on
> "Properties" and then click on the "Bindings" tab on top and ensure that
> the
> box next to each of "Client for Microsoft Network", "File and printer
> sharing for Microsoft network" and "NETBIOS support for IPX/SPX compatible
> protocol" is checked. While you're there, click on the "Netbios" tab on
> top
> and ensure that the box next to "I want to enable Netbios over IPX/SPX" is
> also checked. On each Win98 machine, do not forget to unbind the TCPIP
> protocol for LAN traffic. To do this, hi-light the "TCPIP protocol", click
> "Properties", click the "Bindings" tab on top and ensure the box next to
> "Client for Microsoft Networks" and "File and printer sharing for
> Microsoft
> Networks" is unchecked. Once you do this, you will get a dialog box
> stating
> "You have not selected any drivers to bind with. Would you like to select
> one now?", click "No". While you're in the "TCPIP Properties" dialog box,
> click on the "Netbios" tab on top and ensure that the box next to "I want
> to
> enable NetBios over TCPIP" is unchecked. You might also want to configure
> a
> default gateway by clicking on the "Gateway" tab on top.
>
> I'm not using NetBeui as IPX/SPX seems to work adequately in XP for File
> and Printer sharing on my > LAN.
>
> I hope this helps! For an OS that's supposed to be so great at Networking,
> XP requires all of us to become instant experts in Networking, which is
> way
> too much for your average users, including me, before I installed XP.
> Necessity is the mother of invention!
>

Author
15 Oct 2006 2:54 AM
Jack (MVP-Networking).
Hi
Nope, using additional protocols would not make it faster.
May be this can Help, http://www.ezlan.net/Internet_Speed.html
Jack (MVP-Networking).


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"Leanin' Cedar" <Nospam@nospam.org> wrote in message
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> Does this seem like it is worth the effort, my home LAN is slow?  Three
> WinXP  PC's
> Thanks
> Bob
>
>
>>Like most of you, I have experienced (!) very slow local networking using
>> "TCPIP only" once I introduced an XP box on my LAN (the traffic was
>> excruciatingly slow from the XP box but not from the my Win98 boxes). For
>> whatever reason, it seems that the TCPIP implementation in XP is routing
>> local traffic through the Internet, which slows down LAN traffic to a
>> crawl.
>>
>> I have 3 boxes: 1 XP Pro and 2 Win98. I use a network Hub (Intel Office
>> Connect) and a Hardware Firewall (SonicWall SOHO/10) with cable modem
>> access
>> (Motorola CyberSurfer). My cable modem hooks to the firewall which itself
>> is
>> hooked to the Hub.Of course, each box is also hooked to the Hub. The
>> hardware firewall serves as a router and a DHCP server. Each box accesses
>> the Net directly. I do not use ICS (Internet Connection Sharing) or XP's
>> software firewall. My LAN is setup as peer to peer as opposed to
>> client/server. Peer to Peer seems to be the default setup.
>>
>> As a result of the difficulties encountered with "TCPIP only" for LAN
>> traffic, I decided to use "NWLink IPX/SPX/Netbios compatible transport
>> protocol" for LAN traffic. There are general rules to follow for any LAN
>> setup. First, configure each box to use the same workgroup, such as
>> "Home"
>> or "House" or whatever else you want as long as it's the same for each
>> box.
>> Each box must also be configured with the same network protocols. Shares
>> must be enabled for the files and printers you wish to share on each box.
>> Software firewalls such as ZoneAlarm should be disabled until the LAN is
>> configured and working. Once the LAN is configured and working, software
>> firewalls can be re-activated but configured to allow local traffic
>> otherwise local traffic will be blocked.
>>
>> To disable XP's software firewall, click on "Start" then "My Network
>> places", then "View Network connections" on the top left pane, then click
>> on
>> your "Local Area Connection" to hi-light it, click "Change Settings of
>> this
>> connection" on the top left pane, click on the "Advanced" tab on top and
>> uncheck the box next to "Protect my computer and network...". There you
>> go,
>> XP's software firewall is disabled!
>>
>> While you're still in the "Local Area Connection Properties" dialog box
>> (on
>> the XP machine), take a look at the window under "This connection uses
>> the
>> following items:", you'll see a list of protocols that are installed. If
>> "NWLink IPX/SPX/Netbios compatible transport protocol" does not appear in
>> this window, click on the "Install" button, then "Protocol", then
>> "Microsoft" than "IPX/SPX/NetBios Compatible Transport Protocol" and take
>> it
>> from there!
>>
>> You must also install this protocol on each Win98 machines by clicking
>> "Settings", then "Control Panel", then "Network", then the "Add" button,
>> then "Protocol", then "Microsoft", then the "IPX/SPX Compatible
>> Protocol".
>> To get IPX/SPX to work on a network that includes an XP machine, you must
>> activate NetBios and bind the NetBios protocol to "File and Printer
>> sharing
>> for Microsoft Network" as well as "Client for Microsoft Network" on each
>> box
>> on the network. I have uninstalled QOS on my XP machine as it serves no
>> purpose. It seems that XP installs NetBios for IPX/SPX automatically once
>> IPX/SPX is installed. IT'S NOT THE SAME WITH WIN98. In Win98, after
>> installing the IPX/SPX protocol and re-booting, you have to click
>> "Start",
>> then "Settings", then "Control Panel", then "Network" and then, hi-light
>> the
>> "IPX/SPX protocol", click "Properties", click on the "NetBios" Tab on top
>> and check the box "I want to enable NetBios over IPX/SPX". You must do
>> this
>> for each Win98 machines on your LAN. I don't know about WinMe, but I
>> suspect
>> that it is pretty much the same as in Win98.
>>
>> To look at bindings in XP, click on "Start", then "My network places",
>> then
>> "View Network Connections", then click on your "local area connection" to
>> hi-light it. Once there, click on "Advanced" on the top menu bar and then
>> on
>> "Advanced Settings". You'll then see a tab on top called "Adapters and
>> bindings". There you are! You'll see "File and Printer Sharing for
>> Microsoft
>> Networks" with the protocols that are bound to it. Ensure IPX/SPX is
>> there
>> and checked. Also, ensure TCPIP is unchecked as you do not want TCPIP for
>> your LAN once you decide to use IPX/SPX. You will also see "Client for
>> Microsoft Networks". It's the same thing there also: check IPX/SPX and
>> uncheck TCPIP.
>>
>> Now close this dialog box. Hi-light your "local area connection" again
>> and
>> click "Change settings of this connection" on the top left hand pane.
>> Click
>> on "Internet Protocol (TCP/IP)", click on "Properties", click on the
>> "Advanced" button on the General Tab page, click on the "WINS" tab on
>> top,
>> check the box that says "Disable NetBios over TCPIP". Remember, you do
>> not
>> need NetBios over TCPIP for your LAN if you use IPX/SPX. While you're
>> there
>> ("Advanced TCPIP Settings"), you might want to add a default gateway if
>> your
>> LAN is anything like mine by clicking on the "Ip Settings" tab on top,
>> then
>> the "Add" button and add your default gateway in the dialog box for this
>> purpose (Mine is set at 192.168.168.168). Check the box entitled
>> "Automatic
>> Metric", if you do need to add a default gateway.
>>
>> To look at the bindings in Win98, click on "Start", then "Settings", then
>> "Control Panel", then "Network", hi-light each protocol involved, then
>> click
>> "Properties", then click on the "Bindings" tab on top. For instance,
>> hi-light the the "IPX/SPX compatible transport protocol", click on
>> "Properties" and then click on the "Bindings" tab on top and ensure that
>> the
>> box next to each of "Client for Microsoft Network", "File and printer
>> sharing for Microsoft network" and "NETBIOS support for IPX/SPX
>> compatible
>> protocol" is checked. While you're there, click on the "Netbios" tab on
>> top
>> and ensure that the box next to "I want to enable Netbios over IPX/SPX"
>> is
>> also checked. On each Win98 machine, do not forget to unbind the TCPIP
>> protocol for LAN traffic. To do this, hi-light the "TCPIP protocol",
>> click
>> "Properties", click the "Bindings" tab on top and ensure the box next to
>> "Client for Microsoft Networks" and "File and printer sharing for
>> Microsoft
>> Networks" is unchecked. Once you do this, you will get a dialog box
>> stating
>> "You have not selected any drivers to bind with. Would you like to select
>> one now?", click "No". While you're in the "TCPIP Properties" dialog box,
>> click on the "Netbios" tab on top and ensure that the box next to "I want
>> to
>> enable NetBios over TCPIP" is unchecked. You might also want to configure
>> a
>> default gateway by clicking on the "Gateway" tab on top.
>>
>> I'm not using NetBeui as IPX/SPX seems to work adequately in XP for File
>> and Printer sharing on my > LAN.
>>
>> I hope this helps! For an OS that's supposed to be so great at
>> Networking,
>> XP requires all of us to become instant experts in Networking, which is
>> way
>> too much for your average users, including me, before I installed XP.
>> Necessity is the mother of invention!
>>
>
>
Author
15 Oct 2006 10:58 AM
Leanin' Cedar
"Jack (MVP-Networking)." <J***@discussiongroup.com> wrote in message
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> Hi
> Nope, using additional protocols would not make it faster.
> May be this can Help, http://www.ezlan.net/Internet_Speed.html
> Jack (MVP-Networking).

Thanks for the reply, I am on dialup so not much hope of optimizing
internet, but was wondering about file and print sharing with the PC's,
looks like this may help.

Bob