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Wireless Hell in Two StoryRequirements: * Must be able to connect up to three systems to the network. * Must work with Nortel VPN (Contivity). * Must be a rock solid connection with no drops. * Must work upstairs and down in any room (really 3 active rooms where it would be used). I had a DLink before (DI514?) and it was pure misery. VPN would fail to connect 7 out of 10 times, then drop off within 10 minutes after I did connect. This was 802.11b a couple years back. Fast forward and I really want to get connected but don't want aggravation. I'm thinking of three options: A. Get newest wireless router and cards for computers, based on your recommendations. Avoid DLink like the plague? B. Get wireless and repeater for downstairs. C. Hard wire place. I'm thinking C would be easiest all told but A or B would be less invasive if they worked. With current technology, do I have a chance of making this fly? What do I need to do to avoid conflicts with all the cordless phones and microwaves? I would appreciate any knowledgeable advice and especially anyone who has experienced a similar need and found a working solution. No time for kludgy configs. It just has to work! Thanks Well if it really must connect all the time and never ever drop then go
wired. If you can live with a drop connection from time to time, then wireless might work. Don't buy other things that operate in the 2.4 Ghz band, stay away from phones in that band. Don't plan on using your laptop next to a microwave if that's a requirement then go the wired route. Look at the 802.11n wireless routers. I'd suggest a wired link between a wireless router and an access point to extend coverage. -- Show quoteHide quoteDavid Hettel Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups. Microsoft Most Valuable Professional Program http://mvp.support.microsoft.com DISCLAIMER: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranty of any kind, either expressed or implied, made in relation to the accuracy, reliability or content of this post. The author shall not be liable for any direct, indirect, incidental or consequential damages arising out of the use of, or inability to use, information or opinions expressed in this post and confers no rights. <groups***@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:1163799515.333984.76410@j44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... >I need to set up a network in my house. > > Requirements: > > * Must be able to connect up to three systems to the network. > * Must work with Nortel VPN (Contivity). > * Must be a rock solid connection with no drops. > * Must work upstairs and down in any room (really 3 active rooms where > it would be used). > > I had a DLink before (DI514?) and it was pure misery. VPN would fail > to connect 7 out of 10 times, then drop off within 10 minutes after I > did connect. > > This was 802.11b a couple years back. Fast forward and I really want > to get connected but don't want aggravation. > > I'm thinking of three options: > A. Get newest wireless router and cards for computers, based on your > recommendations. Avoid DLink like the plague? > B. Get wireless and repeater for downstairs. > C. Hard wire place. > > I'm thinking C would be easiest all told but A or B would be less > invasive if they worked. With current technology, do I have a chance > of making this fly? What do I need to do to avoid conflicts with all > the cordless phones and microwaves? > > I would appreciate any knowledgeable advice and especially anyone who > has experienced a similar need and found a working solution. No time > for kludgy configs. It just has to work! > > Thanks > On 17 Nov 2006 13:38:35 -0800, groups***@yahoo.com wrote:
Show quoteHide quote >I need to set up a network in my house. i'm in a split level home (3-levels...main floor, bedrooms upstairs,> >Requirements: > >* Must be able to connect up to three systems to the network. >* Must work with Nortel VPN (Contivity). >* Must be a rock solid connection with no drops. >* Must work upstairs and down in any room (really 3 active rooms where >it would be used). > >I had a DLink before (DI514?) and it was pure misery. VPN would fail >to connect 7 out of 10 times, then drop off within 10 minutes after I >did connect. > >This was 802.11b a couple years back. Fast forward and I really want >to get connected but don't want aggravation. > >I'm thinking of three options: >A. Get newest wireless router and cards for computers, based on your >recommendations. Avoid DLink like the plague? >B. Get wireless and repeater for downstairs. >C. Hard wire place. > >I'm thinking C would be easiest all told but A or B would be less >invasive if they worked. With current technology, do I have a chance >of making this fly? What do I need to do to avoid conflicts with all >the cordless phones and microwaves? > >I would appreciate any knowledgeable advice and especially anyone who >has experienced a similar need and found a working solution. No time >for kludgy configs. It just has to work! > >Thanks family room downstairs). US Robotics MaxG wireless router is located in my office on the main floor at the front of the house. i have a good signal to all parts of the house. no drop-outs, no problems. the wireless card in the laptop is an intel b/g card. we have a microwave and cordless phones with no interference. the USR MaxG (model #5461) router is very easy to set up and configure. whatever rouyer you decide to go with i'd recommend trying it first before going to all the expense of a repeater, running wires etc. you may be pleasantly surprised. 73, rich, n9dko Hi
The ultimate solution, as David indicated above, is Wire. However if environmental constrains do not allow wire in one or two spots. Buy this Wireless Cable/DSL Router to serve as your main Router/Access Point that is connected to the Modem. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16833162134 Buy additional unit of the same Wireless Router for each remote spot that you want to turn Wireless. These units are High Power Wireless that are also capable to work at 125Mb/sec. The units that go into the remote rooms have to be configured as Client Wireless. I.e. it is not acting as a Router but as a form of Wireless Client/Bridge. See here Mode 3, http://www.ezlan.net/Wireless_Modes.html The remote computers do not need Wireless Cards, they have to be connected with a wire to a regular port on the Wireless Router/Client units. By using such a configuration the Wireless traffic is flowing between two High Power units that match and work at full speed, and all the processing that involves the Wireless is done in hardware. The computers, while their inner working is through the wire LAN connection, are more stable than they would be using regular wireless cards, and depending on the wireless software services. If necessary fitting the client units with HiGain Directional Antenna pointing to the source Wireless Router, would augment performance even more. Jack (MVP-Networking). <groups***@yahoo.com> wrote in message Show quoteHide quote news:1163799515.333984.76410@j44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > I need to set up a network in my house. > > Requirements: > > * Must be able to connect up to three systems to the network. > * Must work with Nortel VPN (Contivity). > * Must be a rock solid connection with no drops. > * Must work upstairs and down in any room (really 3 active rooms where > it would be used). > > I had a DLink before (DI514?) and it was pure misery. VPN would fail > to connect 7 out of 10 times, then drop off within 10 minutes after I > did connect. > > This was 802.11b a couple years back. Fast forward and I really want > to get connected but don't want aggravation. > > I'm thinking of three options: > A. Get newest wireless router and cards for computers, based on your > recommendations. Avoid DLink like the plague? > B. Get wireless and repeater for downstairs. > C. Hard wire place. > > I'm thinking C would be easiest all told but A or B would be less > invasive if they worked. With current technology, do I have a chance > of making this fly? What do I need to do to avoid conflicts with all > the cordless phones and microwaves? > > I would appreciate any knowledgeable advice and especially anyone who > has experienced a similar need and found a working solution. No time > for kludgy configs. It just has to work! > > Thanks > <groups***@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1163799515.333984.76410@j44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... Another option is ethernet over powerline. I've been using IOGear Homeplug >I need to set up a network in my house. > ---snip--- for a couple of years without a hitch. http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.asp?DEPA=0&type=&Description=homeplug&Submit=ENE&N=0&Ntk=all&Go.x=0&Go.y=0 Ted Thanks for your help guys.
The A/C route sounds good as it is not invasive but I will still need a router to share internet, I take it? The best options seem to be: 1. WRT54G or WRT54GS with new wifi adapter. http://www.circuitcity.com/ssm/Linksys-Wireless-Router-WRT54G/sem/rpsm/oid/69086/rpem/ccd/productDetail.do 2. WT300N (bleeding edge and is additional cost justified?) http://www.circuitcity.com/ssm/Linksys-Wireless-N-Broadband-Router-WRT300N/sem/rpsm/oid/150782/rpem/ccd/productDetail.do * If wireless options need additional coverage, add WRE54G extender. http://www.circuitcity.com/ssm/Linksys-Wireless-Range-Extender-WRE54G/sem/rpsm/oid/93822/rpem/ccd/productDetail.do 3. Powerline unit. Will still require router to share internet, I take it. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16833174007 Any further suggestions appreciated! Well you could start off with the
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16833124068 LINKSYS WRT300N where one user reports that he gets "...a full max 4 green bars on connection speed to my 360 through 1 floor, 3 walls and 75 feet away from this router, usually had 1 red bar or 2 orange bars on connection and signal strength." Then if you find that this doesn't give you enough range you could add the http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16833174007 and an additional access point to it. Any of the Wireless N devices should give you greater range, and still greater ranger when used with a cardbus or USB wireless N NIC in your notebook. Also look at the Trendnet TEW-631BRP http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16833156052 where a user is reporting that "The Office building that I use is a wooden three storey building and I get full signal strenght on all floors." -- Show quoteHide quoteDavid Hettel Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups. Microsoft Most Valuable Professional Program http://mvp.support.microsoft.com DISCLAIMER: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranty of any kind, either expressed or implied, made in relation to the accuracy, reliability or content of this post. The author shall not be liable for any direct, indirect, incidental or consequential damages arising out of the use of, or inability to use, information or opinions expressed in this post and confers no rights. <groups***@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:1163876317.827176.262080@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com... > Thanks for your help guys. > > The A/C route sounds good as it is not invasive but I will still need a > router to share internet, I take it? > > The best options seem to be: > > 1. WRT54G or WRT54GS with new wifi adapter. > > http://www.circuitcity.com/ssm/Linksys-Wireless-Router-WRT54G/sem/rpsm/oid/69086/rpem/ccd/productDetail.do > > 2. WT300N (bleeding edge and is additional cost justified?) > > http://www.circuitcity.com/ssm/Linksys-Wireless-N-Broadband-Router-WRT300N/sem/rpsm/oid/150782/rpem/ccd/productDetail.do > > * If wireless options need additional coverage, add WRE54G extender. > > http://www.circuitcity.com/ssm/Linksys-Wireless-Range-Extender-WRE54G/sem/rpsm/oid/93822/rpem/ccd/productDetail.do > > 3. Powerline unit. Will still require router to share internet, I take > it. > > http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16833174007 > > Any further suggestions appreciated! > David Hettel wrote:
> Well you could start off with the I decided to give a proven unit a try, the WRT54G and equiv card..> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16833124068 LINKSYS > WRT300N where one user reports that he gets "...a full max 4 green bars on > connection speed to my 360 through 1 floor, 3 walls and 75 feet away from > this router, usually had 1 red bar or 2 orange bars on connection and signal > strength." Then if you find that this doesn't give you enough range you > could add the http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16833174007 > and an additional access point to it. Any of the Wireless N devices should > give you greater range, and still greater ranger when used with a cardbus or > USB wireless N NIC in your notebook. Also look at the Trendnet TEW-631BRP > http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16833156052 where a user > is reporting that "The Office building that I use is a wooden three storey > building and I get full signal strenght on all floors." Yes, I could have purchased the 300N at > twice the price, but decided that if I did need more horsepower, I'd get in in the form of an extender which I can score on ebay in the $40-$50 range. Well the WRT54G ran flawlessly. I immediately hooked it up to the main computer and put in WEP and mac filtering. Then turned on the notebook. Tried in one room. 4/5 bars. Tried in other room, 3-4 bars consistent. Logged into vpn. Got in first time! No jerking around with ipsec this and ip that, like the DLink. It will take a few days to make sure it is consistent. During the week when everyone's in their usual routines will be a better test. Those wall plug units are very tempting, but still need a router. I didn't want to use the old DLink. I'd prefer its fate to be that of the printer in Office Space! Thanks again, all. I do appreciate all the suggestions even if I went with different direction than may have been suggested. <groups***@yahoo.com> wrote in message
Show quoteHide quote news:1163905771.123850.220730@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com... My setup uses a Linksys MRT54GS. I have a desktop upstairs and a laptop > > David Hettel wrote: >> Well you could start off with the >> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16833124068 LINKSYS >> WRT300N where one user reports that he gets "...a full max 4 green bars >> on >> connection speed to my 360 through 1 floor, 3 walls and 75 feet away from >> this router, usually had 1 red bar or 2 orange bars on connection and >> signal >> strength." Then if you find that this doesn't give you enough range you >> could add the >> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16833174007 >> and an additional access point to it. Any of the Wireless N devices >> should >> give you greater range, and still greater ranger when used with a cardbus >> or >> USB wireless N NIC in your notebook. Also look at the Trendnet TEW-631BRP >> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16833156052 where a >> user >> is reporting that "The Office building that I use is a wooden three >> storey >> building and I get full signal strenght on all floors." > > I decided to give a proven unit a try, the WRT54G and equiv card.. > Yes, I could have purchased the 300N at > twice the price, but decided > that if I did need more horsepower, I'd get in in the form of an > extender which I can score on ebay in the $40-$50 range. > > Well the WRT54G ran flawlessly. I immediately hooked it up to the main > computer and put in WEP and mac filtering. Then turned on the > notebook. Tried in one room. 4/5 bars. Tried in other room, 3-4 bars > consistent. Logged into vpn. Got in first time! No jerking around > with ipsec this and ip that, like the DLink. > > It will take a few days to make sure it is consistent. During the week > when everyone's in their usual routines will be a better test. > > Those wall plug units are very tempting, but still need a router. I > didn't want to use the old DLink. I'd prefer its fate to be that of > the printer in Office Space! > > Thanks again, all. I do appreciate all the suggestions even if I went > with different direction than may have been suggested. > downstairs. The distance is about 25 feet. Anyway, the setup works flawlessly nearly all of the time. However, when the weather is rainy (outside, not inside), the wireless part cannot stay connected. I have seen the time when the wireless network would not stay connected even when the laptop was merely across the room... I have also seen times when the wireless network would not stay connected in the afternoon after working all morning. I did not answer you initial response because you wanted a connection that worked flawless all of the time. This is a condition that my network does not meet. It doesn't bother me to speak of because I am retired. If it doesn't work today, there is always tomorrow. Jim Hi
You found a nice compromise, however, my expeierence indicates that it probably would not withstand your own rigorous demands as stated at the beginning of this thread.. Have a Good Luck. Jack (MVP-Networking). <groups***@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:1163905771.123850.220730@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com... http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16833174007> > David Hettel wrote: > > Well you could start off with the > > http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16833124068 LINKSYS > > WRT300N where one user reports that he gets "...a full max 4 green bars on > > connection speed to my 360 through 1 floor, 3 walls and 75 feet away from > > this router, usually had 1 red bar or 2 orange bars on connection and signal > > strength." Then if you find that this doesn't give you enough range you > > could add the Show quoteHide quote > > and an additional access point to it. Any of the Wireless N devices should > > give you greater range, and still greater ranger when used with a cardbus or > > USB wireless N NIC in your notebook. Also look at the Trendnet TEW-631BRP > > http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16833156052 where a user > > is reporting that "The Office building that I use is a wooden three storey > > building and I get full signal strenght on all floors." > > I decided to give a proven unit a try, the WRT54G and equiv card.. > Yes, I could have purchased the 300N at > twice the price, but decided > that if I did need more horsepower, I'd get in in the form of an > extender which I can score on ebay in the $40-$50 range. > > Well the WRT54G ran flawlessly. I immediately hooked it up to the main > computer and put in WEP and mac filtering. Then turned on the > notebook. Tried in one room. 4/5 bars. Tried in other room, 3-4 bars > consistent. Logged into vpn. Got in first time! No jerking around > with ipsec this and ip that, like the DLink. > > It will take a few days to make sure it is consistent. During the week > when everyone's in their usual routines will be a better test. > > Those wall plug units are very tempting, but still need a router. I > didn't want to use the old DLink. I'd prefer its fate to be that of > the printer in Office Space! > > Thanks again, all. I do appreciate all the suggestions even if I went > with different direction than may have been suggested. > |
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