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2 Dec 2006 2:18 AM
mae439
OK, so I've got some issues with my laptop.  I have a MPC T1000 laptop
with and ORiNOCO wireless card.  I've been using my laptop as a main
computer using ethernet but I moved and figured it would be easier to
switch to wireless ... NO.  So, I am running XP Pro with SP2 and I'm
having a nightmare of a time trying to connect to my AP.  When I try to

connect to an AP I get the message "The network may be out of range or
no longer available" and this is not just my network it's other
networks in the area.  But the wierd thing is ... some networks let me
connect to them, I obviously don't have their WEP key but if I did I
would be able to connect.  Also, I have WEP key on the router and when
I had SP1 I couldn't connect to it because of the WEP key not being 5
or 13 ASCII characters.  Is there anyway to fix this???!???!??

Author
2 Dec 2006 4:42 AM
Jack (MVP-Networking).
Hi
It would be helpful if you would divulge the model of your Orinoco card
(there is quite few Orinoco Wireless cards), and what is your own Wireless
source.
Otherwise these pages have general info and instruction for configuring
Wireless connections.
My New Wireless does not work - http://www.ezlan.net/wireless.html
Wireless, Basic Configuration -  http://www.ezlan.net/Wireless_Config.html
Wireless Security - http://www.ezlan.net/Wireless_Security.html
Jack (MVP-Networking).

<mae***@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> OK, so I've got some issues with my laptop.  I have a MPC T1000 laptop
> with and ORiNOCO wireless card.  I've been using my laptop as a main
> computer using ethernet but I moved and figured it would be easier to
> switch to wireless ... NO.  So, I am running XP Pro with SP2 and I'm
> having a nightmare of a time trying to connect to my AP.  When I try to
>
> connect to an AP I get the message "The network may be out of range or
> no longer available" and this is not just my network it's other
> networks in the area.  But the wierd thing is ... some networks let me
> connect to them, I obviously don't have their WEP key but if I did I
> would be able to connect.  Also, I have WEP key on the router and when
> I had SP1 I couldn't connect to it because of the WEP key not being 5
> or 13 ASCII characters.  Is there anyway to fix this???!???!??
>
Author
2 Dec 2006 8:33 AM
mae439
Here's a link to my specs:
http://support.mpccorp.com/apps/complist.asp?SerialNo=3417331-0001

I'm using a Motorola SBG900 Wireless Router.

Other than that, I got nothin.

Mike
Author
2 Dec 2006 8:45 AM
mae439
OK, so I do have something, I found some info through the client
manager:

Driver -
NDIS 5 Miniport Driver        Version 7.42

Card -
Agere Systems Gold Card        Version 5.0

Hope this helps someone help me.

Mike


mae***@gmail.com wrote:
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> Here's a link to my specs:
> http://support.mpccorp.com/apps/complist.asp?SerialNo=3417331-0001
>
> I'm using a Motorola SBG900 Wireless Router.
>
> Other than that, I got nothin.
>
> Mike
Author
2 Dec 2006 10:52 AM
Axel Hammerschmidt
<mae***@gmail.com> wrote:

http://support.mpccorp.com/apps/specs.asp?ID=6964

Quote

: Security
:
: 40-bit key plus 24-bit Initialization Vector 104-bit key plus 24-bit
: Initialization Vector

The wireless networks you can connect to use a 40-bit or 104-bit WEP key
or are unsecured.
Author
2 Dec 2006 1:40 PM
mae439
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> The wireless networks you can connect to use a 40-bit or 104-bit WEP key
> or are unsecured.

OK, but ... for one reason or another both of my roommates can connect
using a shorter WEP key (i.e. 11, 10, 9, characters) and this still
doesn't solve the problem of how do I get my wireless card to allow me
to connect to my AP.
Author
2 Dec 2006 3:27 PM
Malke
mae***@gmail.com wrote:

> Quote
>
>> The wireless networks you can connect to use a 40-bit or 104-bit WEP
>> key or are unsecured.
>
> OK, but ... for one reason or another both of my roommates can connect
> using a shorter WEP key (i.e. 11, 10, 9, characters) and this still
> doesn't solve the problem of how do I get my wireless card to allow me
> to connect to my AP.

You are apparently using either a 64 or 128-bit WEP encryption on your
router. You need to enter the key into your wireless software. The key,
not the passphrased used to generate the key. Either use the Windows
SP2 WZC or use the software that came with your wireless adapter. If
you are not able to do this, you are entering the wrong key or
otherwise doing something wrong. Have someone who can see the router
and have hands-onto your machine help you.

Go into your wireless router's configuration and make a note of the
encryption scheme and key you have set.

Malke
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Author
2 Dec 2006 6:28 PM
mae439
Thanks for all the advice on the WEP key but I still have the problem
of not even being able to input anything.  When I attempt to connect to
the network through Windows Wireless Network Connections I get the
error message "Windows is unable to connect to the selected network.
The network may no longer be in range.  Please refresh the list of
avaliable networks, and try again."  So even if I could fix my key
problem I still have that connection issue.  I have two other computers
in my house that are connected to the AP.  Both using cheap Belkin
wireless cards.  I also got ahold of a U.S. Robotics USR5410 PCMCIA
card from an IBM Thinkpad that was working.  I set everything up and
then I went back to the Windows Wireless Networks and that showed all
of my networks around including mine but none of them had any signal.
I put the card back into the Thinkpad and connected without a problem.
I am baffled.

Mike
Author
2 Dec 2006 7:10 PM
Malke
mae***@gmail.com wrote:

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> Thanks for all the advice on the WEP key but I still have the problem
> of not even being able to input anything.  When I attempt to connect
> to the network through Windows Wireless Network Connections I get the
> error message "Windows is unable to connect to the selected network.
> The network may no longer be in range.  Please refresh the list of
> avaliable networks, and try again."  So even if I could fix my key
> problem I still have that connection issue.  I have two other
> computers
> in my house that are connected to the AP.  Both using cheap Belkin
> wireless cards.  I also got ahold of a U.S. Robotics USR5410 PCMCIA
> card from an IBM Thinkpad that was working.  I set everything up and
> then I went back to the Windows Wireless Networks and that showed all
> of my networks around including mine but none of them had any signal.
> I put the card back into the Thinkpad and connected without a problem.
> I am baffled.

Try not using the Windows Wireless connections. Use the software that
came with your network adapter. Other than that, I'm out of ideas. You
should have someone local take a look instead of trying to work this
out in writing in a newsgroup.

Malke
--
Elephant Boy Computers
www.elephantboycomputers.com
"Don't Panic!"
MS-MVP Windows - Shell/User
Author
2 Dec 2006 7:48 PM
Jack (MVP-Networking).
Hi

When Wireless does not work as is, the "Trick" is to try one-step at the
time as describe in the page that I link to above (
http://www.ezlan.net/Wireless_Config.html ).

I.e. Put the client next to the source, disable security, (and as Malke
suggested) disable Windows Zero Configuration (
http://www.ezlan.net/wzc.html ),  use the Orinoco utility, and take it from
there. If it does not work under "Rock Bottom" condition it might be
hardware problem/incompatibly issue.

Jack (MVP-Networking).



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> Thanks for all the advice on the WEP key but I still have the problem
> of not even being able to input anything.  When I attempt to connect to
> the network through Windows Wireless Network Connections I get the
> error message "Windows is unable to connect to the selected network.
> The network may no longer be in range.  Please refresh the list of
> avaliable networks, and try again."  So even if I could fix my key
> problem I still have that connection issue.  I have two other computers
> in my house that are connected to the AP.  Both using cheap Belkin
> wireless cards.  I also got ahold of a U.S. Robotics USR5410 PCMCIA
> card from an IBM Thinkpad that was working.  I set everything up and
> then I went back to the Windows Wireless Networks and that showed all
> of my networks around including mine but none of them had any signal.
> I put the card back into the Thinkpad and connected without a problem.
> I am baffled.
>
> Mike
>
Author
3 Dec 2006 11:10 PM
David Hettel
Try opening Network connections, right click on your wireless icon and chose
properties. Click on Wireless Networks (tab) In the preferred networks is
your wireless router listed? If so you might want to "Remove" it this should
allow you to rediscover your wireless network, and when it is rediscovered
you should be prompted for a password. You want to enter the Hex version of
your password here. That is the one that only has the numbers 0 to 9 and A
to F.

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> Hi
>
> When Wireless does not work as is, the "Trick" is to try one-step at the
> time as describe in the page that I link to above (
> http://www.ezlan.net/Wireless_Config.html ).
>
> I.e. Put the client next to the source, disable security, (and as Malke
> suggested) disable Windows Zero Configuration (
> http://www.ezlan.net/wzc.html ),  use the Orinoco utility, and take it
> from there. If it does not work under "Rock Bottom" condition it might be
> hardware problem/incompatibly issue.
>
> Jack (MVP-Networking).
>
>
>
> <mae***@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1165084122.346027.70270@j72g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>> Thanks for all the advice on the WEP key but I still have the problem
>> of not even being able to input anything.  When I attempt to connect to
>> the network through Windows Wireless Network Connections I get the
>> error message "Windows is unable to connect to the selected network.
>> The network may no longer be in range.  Please refresh the list of
>> avaliable networks, and try again."  So even if I could fix my key
>> problem I still have that connection issue.  I have two other computers
>> in my house that are connected to the AP.  Both using cheap Belkin
>> wireless cards.  I also got ahold of a U.S. Robotics USR5410 PCMCIA
>> card from an IBM Thinkpad that was working.  I set everything up and
>> then I went back to the Windows Wireless Networks and that showed all
>> of my networks around including mine but none of them had any signal.
>> I put the card back into the Thinkpad and connected without a problem.
>> I am baffled.
>>
>> Mike
>>
>
>