"Confused Student" <ConfusedStud***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
message news:620B9868-945F-4EF4-B662-B990D44A0433@microsoft.com...
> Hi,
> we have 1MB broadband going through a wireless router to my dads PC (LAN)
> and my PC (wireless), the network can do 54mps to my pc and 100mps to my
> dads
> but the max speed we can get through either one of the PCs, eg.
> downloading
> off the internet (say free software like antivirus etc.) is onli 59KBs!!
> is
> there anyway to increase the speed?
>
> in task manager, it says the utilization is onli (at max) about 2% so
> there
> must be more usage out of 1mb... and my connection is at 100% and iv
> lowerd
> the signal level and have a network pass to stop other people using it,
> ive
> also checked the router and only i am connected wirelessly.
>
> any answers greatly appreciated,
>
> Richard
> --
> Confused

"Jack (MVP-Networking)." wrote:

> Hi
>
> What ever your LAN speed is. It is Not so important since you Internet
> connection is only 1Mb/sec.
>
> 1Mb/sec. should yield 100KB/sec download (so you are not terribly Off).
>
> http://www.ezlan.net/net_speed.html
>
> May be this can Help, http://www.ezlan.net/Internet_Speed.html
>
> Jack (MVP-Networking).
>
>
>
>

"Confused Student" <ConfusedStud***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
message news:9D7D5AB1-A259-47DC-B7EF-59D211C6619D@microsoft.com...
> thanks, yeah i did the test and it was  46.6KB download and 22.8KB for
> upload. it says my download speed was 59% worse than the average and
> upload
> speed was 13% worse. so thats bad, i know lol. Is there anyway to maximize
> the speed?
>
> thankyou,
>
> Richard
> --
> Confused
>
>
> "Jack (MVP-Networking)." wrote:
>
>> Hi
>>
>> What ever your LAN speed is. It is Not so important since you Internet
>> connection is only 1Mb/sec.
>>
>> 1Mb/sec. should yield 100KB/sec download (so you are not terribly Off).

>> Jack (MVP-Networking).
>>

"banjo" wrote:

>
> "Confused Student" <ConfusedStud***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
> message news:9D7D5AB1-A259-47DC-B7EF-59D211C6619D@microsoft.com...
> > thanks, yeah i did the test and it was  46.6KB download and 22.8KB for
> > upload. it says my download speed was 59% worse than the average and
> > upload
> > speed was 13% worse. so thats bad, i know lol. Is there anyway to maximize
> > the speed?
> >
> > thankyou,
> >
> > Richard
> > --
> > Confused
> >
> >
> > "Jack (MVP-Networking)." wrote:
> >
> >> Hi
> >>
> >> What ever your LAN speed is. It is Not so important since you Internet
> >> connection is only 1Mb/sec.
> >>
> >> 1Mb/sec. should yield 100KB/sec download (so you are not terribly Off).
>
> >> Jack (MVP-Networking).
> >>
>
>
> not fare off? they are getting about half of what they should have. not
> 46.6KB download speed.
>
>
>
>
>
>

"Confused Student" <ConfusedStud***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
message news:F1150933-981A-4DEA-8AC0-B0C613B1D763@microsoft.com...
> How do i improve the speed???
>
> im getting the feeling this is not good lol, would i need to phone my ISP
> up
> or something?
>
> many regards,
>
> Richard
> --
> Confused
>
>
> "banjo" wrote:
>
>>
>> "Confused Student" <ConfusedStud***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
>> message news:9D7D5AB1-A259-47DC-B7EF-59D211C6619D@microsoft.com...
>> > thanks, yeah i did the test and it was  46.6KB download and 22.8KB for
>> > upload. it says my download speed was 59% worse than the average and
>> > upload
>> > speed was 13% worse. so thats bad, i know lol. Is there anyway to
>> > maximize
>> > the speed?
>> >
>> > thankyou,
>> >
>> > Richard
>> > --
>> > Confused
>> >
>> >
>> > "Jack (MVP-Networking)." wrote:
>> >
>> >> Hi
>> >>
>> >> What ever your LAN speed is. It is Not so important since you Internet
>> >> connection is only 1Mb/sec.
>> >>
>> >> 1Mb/sec. should yield 100KB/sec download (so you are not terribly
>> >> Off).
>>
>> >> Jack (MVP-Networking).
>> >>
>>
>>
>> not fare off? they are getting about half of what they should have. not
>> 46.6KB download speed.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>

> Hi,
> we have 1MB broadband going through a wireless router to my dads PC (LAN)
> and my PC (wireless), the network can do 54mps to my pc and 100mps to my dads
> but the max speed we can get through either one of the PCs, eg. downloading
> off the internet (say free software like antivirus etc.) is onli 59KBs!! is
> there anyway to increase the speed?
>
> in task manager, it says the utilization is onli (at max) about 2% so there
> must be more usage out of 1mb... and my connection is at 100% and iv lowerd
> the signal level and have a network pass to stop other people using it, ive
> also checked the router and only i am connected wirelessly.
>
> any answers greatly appreciated,
>
> Richard
>  --
> Confused

"mike" <spamme9@gmail.com> wrote in message news:EXZdh.187$dh.62@trnddc03...
> Confused Student wrote:
>> Hi, we have 1MB broadband going through a wireless router to my dads PC
>> (LAN) and my PC (wireless), the network can do 54mps to my pc and 100mps
>> to my dads but the max speed we can get through either one of the PCs,
>> eg. downloading off the internet (say free software like antivirus etc.)
>> is onli 59KBs!! is there anyway to increase the speed?
>>
>> in task manager, it says the utilization is onli (at max) about 2% so
>> there must be more usage out of 1mb... and my connection is at 100% and
>> iv lowerd the signal level and have a network pass to stop other people
>> using it, ive also checked the router and only i am connected wirelessly.
>>
>> any answers greatly appreciated,
>>
>> Richard
>>  --
>> Confused
>
> Lots of stuff affects speed.  Use a speed test site provided by your isp.
> I like
> http://infospeed.verizon.net/speedtest/speedtest500k.asp
> because it doesn't require me to load flash or java to run it.
> Run it multiple times at different times of day to see if your
> speed is consistent.
>
> My Verizon 768k DSL was doing about half that with wildly varying results.
> I went round and round and round with Verizon with no satisfaction.  Every
> diagnostic I ran told me that I was configured optimally.  I accidentally
> determined that changing the MTU setting to
> 1000 doubled my speed and made it much more consistent.  I still get only
> 690K out of my 768 connection, but it's lots better than the 200-400K I
> was getting before.
>
> I don't know why, just that it worked.
> YMMV
> mike

>
> Check using  different file sizes and sites at
> http://performance.toast.net/.  To confirm the  results download a known
> file size 10 MB and time the download with a stopwatch, several times.
> Average the results and you will get your download speed for that particular
> time of day and date. To avoid the effects of web congestion you need to do
> this in the small hours from a site in your own country.
>
> I hope this helps dispel the confusion.
> John
>
>
>
> "mike" <spamme9@gmail.com> wrote in message news:EXZdh.187$dh.62@trnddc03...
>
>>Confused Student wrote:
>>
>>>Hi, we have 1MB broadband going through a wireless router to my dads PC
>>>(LAN) and my PC (wireless), the network can do 54mps to my pc and 100mps
>>>to my dads but the max speed we can get through either one of the PCs,
>>>eg. downloading off the internet (say free software like antivirus etc.)
>>>is onli 59KBs!! is there anyway to increase the speed?
>>>
>>>in task manager, it says the utilization is onli (at max) about 2% so
>>>there must be more usage out of 1mb... and my connection is at 100% and
>>>iv lowerd the signal level and have a network pass to stop other people
>>>using it, ive also checked the router and only i am connected wirelessly.
>>>
>>>any answers greatly appreciated,
>>>
>>>Richard
>>> --
>>>Confused
>>
>>Lots of stuff affects speed.  Use a speed test site provided by your isp.
>>I like
>>http://infospeed.verizon.net/speedtest/speedtest500k.asp
>>because it doesn't require me to load flash or java to run it.
>>Run it multiple times at different times of day to see if your
>>speed is consistent.
>>
>>My Verizon 768k DSL was doing about half that with wildly varying results.
>>I went round and round and round with Verizon with no satisfaction.  Every
>>diagnostic I ran told me that I was configured optimally.  I accidentally
>>determined that changing the MTU setting to
>>1000 doubled my speed and made it much more consistent.  I still get only
>>690K out of my 768 connection, but it's lots better than the 200-400K I
>>was getting before.
>>
>>I don't know why, just that it worked.
>>YMMV
>>mike
>
>
>

> John Butler wrote:
>> Hello Confused Student
>>
>> The speed reports you are getting are not out of line with the nominal
>> speed of your internet connection. You will not get much better
>> performance unless you get a higher nominal  speed. When you do a test
>> the result depends, cf Mike  in an earlier message, not only on your
>> hardware & software but also the statusof the site(s) you are accessing
>> and of the internet at the time.
>>
>> In my own case in London UK I have a nominal 10 MB cable connection.  I
>> just tested it with the tool provide by my ISP and the result is given as
>> 10 MB nominal 6.8 MB actual.  The Verizon test suggested by Mike rated
>> the connection at 3 MB.
>
> Guess I should have stated that one should use a site that's 'electrically
> close' to your location.  Using a USA test site from UK is
> likely not optimal.
>
> My phone wire takes a different path to the CO than mine...I know cause my
> phone was out for a week when they accidentally cut a cable miles away.
> Everybody else on my block was not affected.  But our 768K dsl speeds are
> similar around 700K after the MTU=1000 hack.
>
> My neighbor on the other side has 3M cable.  His connection is a solid
> 3M to the verizon test site.
>
> If I understand DSL, the speed is throttled down to prevent me from going
> faster.  I'm provisioned at 864K to allow for system overhead.
> For an additional fee, Verizon will gladly sell me 1.5M over the same wire
> using the same modem.  If they're restricting my pipe to 864K,
> I should damn well expect to get a solid 768K download speed from their
> very own test site "most of the time", and especially in the wee hours
> when fewer people are loading my area.
> Yes??
>
> If I were paying for 10M, I'd EXPECT to get 10M most of the time barring
> extraordinary congestion.  They reason they have all those speed
> disclaimers is cause they have no intention spending any money to
> make sure you get it.
>
> I know one person can't do anything, but as a nation, I can't believe
> we don't do something about this.  It's like pulling into a gas station.
> You pay for 10 gallons and get 6.  "Sorry buddy, we don't guarantee
> to give you 10 gallons.  We just guarantee to charge you for it.
> If you really need 10, you should pay for 30.  That way, you'll
> get 10 more often...maybe...
> You're welcome to try the station across the street. There's a $500
> cancellation fee if you do.  And you have to  get a new
> gas tank ...installation extra..."
> Grrrrr!!!
>
> mike
>>
>> Check using  different file sizes and sites at
>> http://performance.toast.net/.  To confirm the  results download a known
>> file size 10 MB and time the download with a stopwatch, several times.
>> Average the results and you will get your download speed for that
>> particular time of day and date. To avoid the effects of web congestion
>> you need to do this in the small hours from a site in your own country.
>>
>> I hope this helps dispel the confusion.
>> John
>>
>>
>>
>> "mike" <spamme9@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:EXZdh.187$dh.62@trnddc03...
>>
>>>Confused Student wrote:
>>>
>>>>Hi, we have 1MB broadband going through a wireless router to my dads PC
>>>>(LAN) and my PC (wireless), the network can do 54mps to my pc and 100mps
>>>>to my dads but the max speed we can get through either one of the PCs,
>>>>eg. downloading off the internet (say free software like antivirus etc.)
>>>>is onli 59KBs!! is there anyway to increase the speed?
>>>>
>>>>in task manager, it says the utilization is onli (at max) about 2% so
>>>>there must be more usage out of 1mb... and my connection is at 100% and
>>>>iv lowerd the signal level and have a network pass to stop other people
>>>>using it, ive also checked the router and only i am connected
>>>>wirelessly.
>>>>
>>>>any answers greatly appreciated,
>>>>
>>>>Richard
>>>> --
>>>>Confused
>>>
>>>Lots of stuff affects speed.  Use a speed test site provided by your isp.
>>>I like
>>>http://infospeed.verizon.net/speedtest/speedtest500k.asp
>>>because it doesn't require me to load flash or java to run it.
>>>Run it multiple times at different times of day to see if your
>>>speed is consistent.
>>>
>>>My Verizon 768k DSL was doing about half that with wildly varying
>>>results. I went round and round and round with Verizon with no
>>>satisfaction.  Every diagnostic I ran told me that I was configured
>>>optimally.  I accidentally determined that changing the MTU setting to
>>>1000 doubled my speed and made it much more consistent.  I still get only
>>>690K out of my 768 connection, but it's lots better than the 200-400K I
>>>was getting before.
>>>
>>>I don't know why, just that it worked.
>>>YMMV
>>>mike
>>
>>

"John Butler" <onclejon@spamuselesshotmail.com> wrote in message
news:u9hBEsJHHHA.1248@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> Mike
>
> I agree with you.
> If you look at Jack's post on 8th December it seems that it is quite
> acceptable for a 10Mb connection never to actually deliver much more that
> 6 MB
>
> "mike" <spamme9@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:boqeh.612$Ft4.283@trnddc02...
>> John Butler wrote:
>>> Hello Confused Student
>>>
>>> The speed reports you are getting are not out of line with the nominal
>>> speed of your internet connection. You will not get much better
>>> performance unless you get a higher nominal  speed. When you do a test
>>> the result depends, cf Mike  in an earlier message, not only on your
>>> hardware & software but also the statusof the site(s) you are accessing
>>> and of the internet at the time.
>>>
>>> In my own case in London UK I have a nominal 10 MB cable connection.  I
>>> just tested it with the tool provide by my ISP and the result is given
>>> as 10 MB nominal 6.8 MB actual.  The Verizon test suggested by Mike
>>> rated the connection at 3 MB.
>>
>> Guess I should have stated that one should use a site that's
>> 'electrically close' to your location.  Using a USA test site from UK is
>> likely not optimal.
>>
>> My phone wire takes a different path to the CO than mine...I know cause
>> my phone was out for a week when they accidentally cut a cable miles
>> away. Everybody else on my block was not affected.  But our 768K dsl
>> speeds are similar around 700K after the MTU=1000 hack.
>>
>> My neighbor on the other side has 3M cable.  His connection is a solid
>> 3M to the verizon test site.
>>
>> If I understand DSL, the speed is throttled down to prevent me from going
>> faster.  I'm provisioned at 864K to allow for system overhead.
>> For an additional fee, Verizon will gladly sell me 1.5M over the same
>> wire using the same modem.  If they're restricting my pipe to 864K,
>> I should damn well expect to get a solid 768K download speed from their
>> very own test site "most of the time", and especially in the wee hours
>> when fewer people are loading my area.
>> Yes??
>>
>> If I were paying for 10M, I'd EXPECT to get 10M most of the time barring
>> extraordinary congestion.  They reason they have all those speed
>> disclaimers is cause they have no intention spending any money to
>> make sure you get it.
>>
>> I know one person can't do anything, but as a nation, I can't believe
>> we don't do something about this.  It's like pulling into a gas station.
>> You pay for 10 gallons and get 6.  "Sorry buddy, we don't guarantee
>> to give you 10 gallons.  We just guarantee to charge you for it.
>> If you really need 10, you should pay for 30.  That way, you'll
>> get 10 more often...maybe...
>> You're welcome to try the station across the street. There's a $500
>> cancellation fee if you do.  And you have to  get a new
>> gas tank ...installation extra..."
>> Grrrrr!!!
>>
>> mike
>>>
>>> Check using  different file sizes and sites at
>>> http://performance.toast.net/.  To confirm the  results download a known
>>> file size 10 MB and time the download with a stopwatch, several times.
>>> Average the results and you will get your download speed for that
>>> particular time of day and date. To avoid the effects of web congestion
>>> you need to do this in the small hours from a site in your own country.
>>>
>>> I hope this helps dispel the confusion.
>>> John
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "mike" <spamme9@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:EXZdh.187$dh.62@trnddc03...
>>>
>>>>Confused Student wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Hi, we have 1MB broadband going through a wireless router to my dads PC
>>>>>(LAN) and my PC (wireless), the network can do 54mps to my pc and
>>>>>100mps to my dads but the max speed we can get through either one of
>>>>>the PCs, eg. downloading off the internet (say free software like
>>>>>antivirus etc.) is onli 59KBs!! is there anyway to increase the speed?
>>>>>
>>>>>in task manager, it says the utilization is onli (at max) about 2% so
>>>>>there must be more usage out of 1mb... and my connection is at 100% and
>>>>>iv lowerd the signal level and have a network pass to stop other people
>>>>>using it, ive also checked the router and only i am connected
>>>>>wirelessly.
>>>>>
>>>>>any answers greatly appreciated,
>>>>>
>>>>>Richard
>>>>> --
>>>>>Confused
>>>>
>>>>Lots of stuff affects speed.  Use a speed test site provided by your
>>>>isp.
>>>>I like
>>>>http://infospeed.verizon.net/speedtest/speedtest500k.asp
>>>>because it doesn't require me to load flash or java to run it.
>>>>Run it multiple times at different times of day to see if your
>>>>speed is consistent.
>>>>
>>>>My Verizon 768k DSL was doing about half that with wildly varying
>>>>results. I went round and round and round with Verizon with no
>>>>satisfaction.  Every diagnostic I ran told me that I was configured
>>>>optimally.  I accidentally determined that changing the MTU setting to
>>>>1000 doubled my speed and made it much more consistent.  I still get
>>>>only 690K out of my 768 connection, but it's lots better than the
>>>>200-400K I was getting before.
>>>>
>>>>I don't know why, just that it worked.
>>>>YMMV
>>>>mike
>>>
>>>
>

"Steve" <a@dot.com> wrote in message
news:e7yUIHiHHHA.1064@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> Can you guarantee you got ten gallons of gas at the gas station? because
> gas volume depends on ambient temperature and when the pump was last
> calibrated. And if you bought a car that advertises 40mpg do you think you
> get that all the time? I don't think so - lucky if you get it at all.
> I agree that you should get close to the advertised speed that your
> internet service provider says - if you can test it to one of their
> servers - but after it goes out onto the internet who knows.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> "John Butler" <onclejon@spamuselesshotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:u9hBEsJHHHA.1248@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> Mike
>>
>> I agree with you.
>> If you look at Jack's post on 8th December it seems that it is quite
>> acceptable for a 10Mb connection never to actually deliver much more that
>> 6 MB
>>
>> "mike" <spamme9@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:boqeh.612$Ft4.283@trnddc02...
>>> John Butler wrote:
>>>> Hello Confused Student
>>>>
>>>> The speed reports you are getting are not out of line with the nominal
>>>> speed of your internet connection. You will not get much better
>>>> performance unless you get a higher nominal  speed. When you do a test
>>>> the result depends, cf Mike  in an earlier message, not only on your
>>>> hardware & software but also the statusof the site(s) you are accessing
>>>> and of the internet at the time.
>>>>
>>>> In my own case in London UK I have a nominal 10 MB cable connection.  I
>>>> just tested it with the tool provide by my ISP and the result is given
>>>> as 10 MB nominal 6.8 MB actual.  The Verizon test suggested by Mike
>>>> rated the connection at 3 MB.
>>>
>>> Guess I should have stated that one should use a site that's
>>> 'electrically close' to your location.  Using a USA test site from UK is
>>> likely not optimal.
>>>
>>> My phone wire takes a different path to the CO than mine...I know cause
>>> my phone was out for a week when they accidentally cut a cable miles
>>> away. Everybody else on my block was not affected.  But our 768K dsl
>>> speeds are similar around 700K after the MTU=1000 hack.
>>>
>>> My neighbor on the other side has 3M cable.  His connection is a solid
>>> 3M to the verizon test site.
>>>
>>> If I understand DSL, the speed is throttled down to prevent me from
>>> going faster.  I'm provisioned at 864K to allow for system overhead.
>>> For an additional fee, Verizon will gladly sell me 1.5M over the same
>>> wire using the same modem.  If they're restricting my pipe to 864K,
>>> I should damn well expect to get a solid 768K download speed from their
>>> very own test site "most of the time", and especially in the wee hours
>>> when fewer people are loading my area.
>>> Yes??
>>>
>>> If I were paying for 10M, I'd EXPECT to get 10M most of the time barring
>>> extraordinary congestion.  They reason they have all those speed
>>> disclaimers is cause they have no intention spending any money to
>>> make sure you get it.
>>>
>>> I know one person can't do anything, but as a nation, I can't believe
>>> we don't do something about this.  It's like pulling into a gas station.
>>> You pay for 10 gallons and get 6.  "Sorry buddy, we don't guarantee
>>> to give you 10 gallons.  We just guarantee to charge you for it.
>>> If you really need 10, you should pay for 30.  That way, you'll
>>> get 10 more often...maybe...
>>> You're welcome to try the station across the street. There's a $500
>>> cancellation fee if you do.  And you have to  get a new
>>> gas tank ...installation extra..."
>>> Grrrrr!!!
>>>
>>> mike
>>>>
>>>> Check using  different file sizes and sites at
>>>> http://performance.toast.net/.  To confirm the  results download a
>>>> known file size 10 MB and time the download with a stopwatch, several
>>>> times. Average the results and you will get your download speed for
>>>> that particular time of day and date. To avoid the effects of web
>>>> congestion you need to do this in the small hours from a site in your
>>>> own country.
>>>>
>>>> I hope this helps dispel the confusion.
>>>> John
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "mike" <spamme9@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:EXZdh.187$dh.62@trnddc03...
>>>>
>>>>>Confused Student wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>Hi, we have 1MB broadband going through a wireless router to my dads
>>>>>>PC (LAN) and my PC (wireless), the network can do 54mps to my pc and
>>>>>>100mps to my dads but the max speed we can get through either one of
>>>>>>the PCs, eg. downloading off the internet (say free software like
>>>>>>antivirus etc.) is onli 59KBs!! is there anyway to increase the speed?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>in task manager, it says the utilization is onli (at max) about 2% so
>>>>>>there must be more usage out of 1mb... and my connection is at 100%
>>>>>>and iv lowerd the signal level and have a network pass to stop other
>>>>>>people using it, ive also checked the router and only i am connected
>>>>>>wirelessly.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>any answers greatly appreciated,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Richard
>>>>>> --
>>>>>>Confused
>>>>>
>>>>>Lots of stuff affects speed.  Use a speed test site provided by your
>>>>>isp.
>>>>>I like
>>>>>http://infospeed.verizon.net/speedtest/speedtest500k.asp
>>>>>because it doesn't require me to load flash or java to run it.
>>>>>Run it multiple times at different times of day to see if your
>>>>>speed is consistent.
>>>>>
>>>>>My Verizon 768k DSL was doing about half that with wildly varying
>>>>>results. I went round and round and round with Verizon with no
>>>>>satisfaction.  Every diagnostic I ran told me that I was configured
>>>>>optimally.  I accidentally determined that changing the MTU setting to
>>>>>1000 doubled my speed and made it much more consistent.  I still get
>>>>>only 690K out of my 768 connection, but it's lots better than the
>>>>>200-400K I was getting before.
>>>>>
>>>>>I don't know why, just that it worked.
>>>>>YMMV
>>>>>mike
>>>>
>>>>
>>
>
>