> Hello,
>
> I have been successfully running my desktop on a wireless internet
> connection with a Belkin 802.11b wireless card on a windows XP platform on an
> emachines T3312 for some time now. I live in a small apartment building where
> the manager provides service via an unsecured linksys router that we can tap
> into. The other day I lost connectivity and can rarely access it now. Someone
> in a neighboring building setup a secured linksys system, and the signal
> strength of their's is overriding ours'. When I open the Wireless Network
> Connections window, our router no longer even appears on the list. I either
> see the new secured "linksys" or another unsecured "Linksys" (w/cap letter)
> with a weaker signal strength. And I am not able to access either.
>
> In my preferences , my preferred network name has disappeared. I have
> deleted all other names that appeared in the list, and I have kept the
> "Automatically connect to non-preferred networks" box unchecked.
>
> I also have Belkin's own software, and unlike the Windows software, I can
> see my router listed. So I have both different BSSID addresses listed - or
> rather, all 3. My router is listed in Belkin's Monitor Utility, but when I
> attempt to connect, it usually reverts to the stronger signal from the
> secured linksys router and I am shut out.
>
> I called Belkin support. They told me the problem is a Linksys tower that is
> emmitting too strong a signal. I was instructed to call linksys and have
> Linksys reduce the signal strength in the Tower causing the conflict. That I
> did, but Linksys defended themselves and informed me that the problem lies in
> my unsecured router. Of course, only the building manager has access to the
> router and he is not about to make it a secured line.
>
> What am I to do here? If there were software or some way I could specify
> which BSSID I was interested in connecting to, this would block out the other
> 2 routers. But does Windows XP allow such specific addressing? I already have
> the TCP/IP address, subnet and gateway set to Linksys factory specs.  What
> more can I do?
>
> Thank you for your time.
>
> Randall 

"Lem" wrote:

> Randall wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > I have been successfully running my desktop on a wireless internet
> > connection with a Belkin 802.11b wireless card on a windows XP platform on an
> > emachines T3312 for some time now. I live in a small apartment building where
> > the manager provides service via an unsecured linksys router that we can tap
> > into. The other day I lost connectivity and can rarely access it now. Someone
> > in a neighboring building setup a secured linksys system, and the signal
> > strength of their's is overriding ours'. When I open the Wireless Network
> > Connections window, our router no longer even appears on the list. I either
> > see the new secured "linksys" or another unsecured "Linksys" (w/cap letter)
> > with a weaker signal strength. And I am not able to access either.
> >
> > In my preferences , my preferred network name has disappeared. I have
> > deleted all other names that appeared in the list, and I have kept the
> > "Automatically connect to non-preferred networks" box unchecked.
> >
> > I also have Belkin's own software, and unlike the Windows software, I can
> > see my router listed. So I have both different BSSID addresses listed - or
> > rather, all 3. My router is listed in Belkin's Monitor Utility, but when I
> > attempt to connect, it usually reverts to the stronger signal from the
> > secured linksys router and I am shut out.
> >
> > I called Belkin support. They told me the problem is a Linksys tower that is
> > emmitting too strong a signal. I was instructed to call linksys and have
> > Linksys reduce the signal strength in the Tower causing the conflict. That I
> > did, but Linksys defended themselves and informed me that the problem lies in
> > my unsecured router. Of course, only the building manager has access to the
> > router and he is not about to make it a secured line.
> >
> > What am I to do here? If there were software or some way I could specify
> > which BSSID I was interested in connecting to, this would block out the other
> > 2 routers. But does Windows XP allow such specific addressing? I already have
> > the TCP/IP address, subnet and gateway set to Linksys factory specs.  What
> > more can I do?
> >
> > Thank you for your time.
> >
> > Randall 
>
> You were probably told that it was a Linksys router -- not tower -- that
> was causing the problem.  Linksys -- the company -- has nothing to do
> with this.  Your issue comes from your neighbors who have installed
> their own routers (and have failed to change their SSIDs from the
> default "Linksys").  If you can figure out who the new router belongs
> to, you might be able to call and ask them to reduce the signal
> strength, but even if the neighbor was willing to do so, this is beyond
> the capability of most stock Linksys routers and most casual users.
>
>
> In the US, wireless routers for 802.11(b)or(g) may be set to use one of
> 11 channels, but really there are only 3 non-overlapping channels, 1, 6,
> and 11.  Most people leave the router set to the default, which
> typically is channel 6.  Ask your landlord to change the setting of his
> router to channel 1 or channel 11 (assuming that it is 6; if its already
> at 11, ask to change to 1, and vice versa).  If it was at 6 and changing
> to 1 doesn't help, try 11.  Changing the channel on the router will NOT
> require any change for the users (unlike changing from an unsecured to a
> secured connection).  As you've discovered, wireless network adapters
> search for all available networks (on all channels).
>
> Unfortunately, some "pre-N" wireless routers cause interference on all
> of the b/g channels.  If this is what your new neighbor has, you may be
> out of luck. See this review:
> http://www.smallnetbuilder.com/wireless/wireless-features/draft_11n_revealed_part2/
> particularly page 4, which says that the pre-n devices default to
> occupying 2 of the 3 non-overlapping b/g channels.
> --
> Lem   MS MVP -- Networking
>
> To the moon and back with 64 Kbits of RAM and 512 Kbits of ROM.
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_Guidance_Computer
>

> Thanks Lem,
>
> They actually did say "tower", otherwise they would not have directed me to
> contact linksys, as I next asked the represetative at belkin for a phone
> contact.
>
> Yes, both routers are using channel 6. What puzzles me is that the linksys
> connection has been completely wiped off of the Wireless Connections Network
> window. Even if it were emitting a smaller signal, the router still should
> show up. I am getting a list of about 8 or so other router name connections
> (all secured) from around the neighborhood. Why not my building's?? And yet
> my building's linksys router still shows up in Belkin's Monitor Utility. But
> since the other secured linksys router emits a stronger signal, I am bumped
> off and unable to connect.
>
> What exactly causes the Windows  Wireless Connections (monitor) to latch
> onto a router? That is really what I need. I have all the others sitting at
> bay through Windows' sofware. With Belkin's software, I am unable to perform
> that operation.
>
> Randall
>
> "Lem" wrote:
>
>
>>Randall wrote:
>>
>>>Hello,
>>>
>>>I have been successfully running my desktop on a wireless internet
>>>connection with a Belkin 802.11b wireless card on a windows XP platform on an
>>>emachines T3312 for some time now. I live in a small apartment building where
>>>the manager provides service via an unsecured linksys router that we can tap
>>>into. The other day I lost connectivity and can rarely access it now. Someone
>>>in a neighboring building setup a secured linksys system, and the signal
>>>strength of their's is overriding ours'. When I open the Wireless Network
>>>Connections window, our router no longer even appears on the list. I either
>>>see the new secured "linksys" or another unsecured "Linksys" (w/cap letter)
>>>with a weaker signal strength. And I am not able to access either.
>>>
>>>In my preferences , my preferred network name has disappeared. I have
>>>deleted all other names that appeared in the list, and I have kept the
>>>"Automatically connect to non-preferred networks" box unchecked.
>>>
>>>I also have Belkin's own software, and unlike the Windows software, I can
>>>see my router listed. So I have both different BSSID addresses listed - or
>>>rather, all 3. My router is listed in Belkin's Monitor Utility, but when I
>>>attempt to connect, it usually reverts to the stronger signal from the
>>>secured linksys router and I am shut out.
>>>
>>>I called Belkin support. They told me the problem is a Linksys tower that is
>>>emmitting too strong a signal. I was instructed to call linksys and have
>>>Linksys reduce the signal strength in the Tower causing the conflict. That I
>>>did, but Linksys defended themselves and informed me that the problem lies in
>>>my unsecured router. Of course, only the building manager has access to the
>>>router and he is not about to make it a secured line.
>>>
>>>What am I to do here? If there were software or some way I could specify
>>>which BSSID I was interested in connecting to, this would block out the other
>>>2 routers. But does Windows XP allow such specific addressing? I already have
>>>the TCP/IP address, subnet and gateway set to Linksys factory specs.  What
>>>more can I do?
>>>
>>>Thank you for your time.
>>>
>>>Randall 
>>
>>You were probably told that it was a Linksys router -- not tower -- that
>>was causing the problem.  Linksys -- the company -- has nothing to do
>>with this.  Your issue comes from your neighbors who have installed
>>their own routers (and have failed to change their SSIDs from the
>>default "Linksys").  If you can figure out who the new router belongs
>>to, you might be able to call and ask them to reduce the signal
>>strength, but even if the neighbor was willing to do so, this is beyond
>>the capability of most stock Linksys routers and most casual users.
>>
>>
>>In the US, wireless routers for 802.11(b)or(g) may be set to use one of
>>11 channels, but really there are only 3 non-overlapping channels, 1, 6,
>>and 11.  Most people leave the router set to the default, which
>>typically is channel 6.  Ask your landlord to change the setting of his
>>router to channel 1 or channel 11 (assuming that it is 6; if its already
>>at 11, ask to change to 1, and vice versa).  If it was at 6 and changing
>>to 1 doesn't help, try 11.  Changing the channel on the router will NOT
>>require any change for the users (unlike changing from an unsecured to a
>>secured connection).  As you've discovered, wireless network adapters
>>search for all available networks (on all channels).
>>
>>Unfortunately, some "pre-N" wireless routers cause interference on all
>>of the b/g channels.  If this is what your new neighbor has, you may be
>>out of luck. See this review:
>>http://www.smallnetbuilder.com/wireless/wireless-features/draft_11n_revealed_part2/
>>particularly page 4, which says that the pre-n devices default to
>>occupying 2 of the 3 non-overlapping b/g channels.
>>--
>>Lem   MS MVP -- Networking
>>
>>To the moon and back with 64 Kbits of RAM and 512 Kbits of ROM.
>>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_Guidance_Computer
>>

"Randall" <Rand***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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> Hello,
>
> I have been successfully running my desktop on a wireless internet
> connection with a Belkin 802.11b wireless card on a windows XP platform on
> an
> emachines T3312 for some time now. I live in a small apartment building
> where
> the manager provides service via an unsecured linksys router that we can
> tap
> into. The other day I lost connectivity and can rarely access it now.
> Someone
> in a neighboring building setup a secured linksys system, and the signal
> strength of their's is overriding ours'. When I open the Wireless Network
> Connections window, our router no longer even appears on the list. I
> either
> see the new secured "linksys" or another unsecured "Linksys" (w/cap
> letter)
> with a weaker signal strength. And I am not able to access either.
>
> In my preferences , my preferred network name has disappeared. I have
> deleted all other names that appeared in the list, and I have kept the
> "Automatically connect to non-preferred networks" box unchecked.
>
> I also have Belkin's own software, and unlike the Windows software, I can
> see my router listed. So I have both different BSSID addresses listed - or
> rather, all 3. My router is listed in Belkin's Monitor Utility, but when I
> attempt to connect, it usually reverts to the stronger signal from the
> secured linksys router and I am shut out.
>
> I called Belkin support. They told me the problem is a Linksys tower that
> is
> emmitting too strong a signal. I was instructed to call linksys and have
> Linksys reduce the signal strength in the Tower causing the conflict. That
> I
> did, but Linksys defended themselves and informed me that the problem lies
> in
> my unsecured router. Of course, only the building manager has access to
> the
> router and he is not about to make it a secured line.
>
> What am I to do here? If there were software or some way I could specify
> which BSSID I was interested in connecting to, this would block out the
> other
> 2 routers. But does Windows XP allow such specific addressing? I already
> have
> the TCP/IP address, subnet and gateway set to Linksys factory specs.  What
> more can I do?
>
> Thank you for your time.
>
> Randall