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WIRELESS AND Wi-FiBefore I get into this arena with the purchase of a new wireless-capable notebook, one very basic question: is wireless and wi-fi the same thing? I notice some notebook descriptives saying, "connect to wi-fi hotspots anywhere!" While ohers say, "connect wirelessly anywhere!" ? Is this just semantics? Thanks for the help!! And while I'm at it, why do folks subscribe to accounts such as T-Mobile Hot Spot? Can't a wireless notebook get on the Net in an unlimited way? If not, WHY not, please?? These are very basic questions, I realize, but I might as well start at the beginning!!?? I've had decent experience with desktop wireless, but never with notebooka. THANK YOU!!!!! Goob -- ALL ABOUT ME/goobmeister Aloha goobmeister,
Technically wi-fi is not the same as "wireless" but in practice they are often used interchangably. This article may help: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wi-Fi Wi-fi is a wireless technology, yes, but not exactly a synonym. As for why do people subscribe to T-Mobile and such the reason is that to connect to the Internet via wireless you have to be able to connect to a wireless access point. Sometimes you can find an open wireless access point (WAP) that requires no credentials to log into it -- that can either be an accident (somebody installed a WAP and didn't secure it) or intentional (somebody installed a WAP they deliberately left open to allow free access). But in many cases the only WAP(s) you'll be able to connect to are going to require some kind of authorization to actually use. T-Mobile (and others) offer WAPs in many places (coffee houses, airports, etc.) that are like that. You can connect to them, but in order to actually use them you'll have to subscribe. Then you can log in with the account they provide (which you've paid for) and use them. Depending upon how often you travel (and where) you may find such a subscription valuable. Also most of those services offer 1 day or part-day subscriptions for a reduced rate (4 hours for $6.99 or something like that). -Ben- Ben M. Schorr - MVP Roland Schorr & Tower http://www.rolandschorr.com Microsoft OneNote FAQ: http://www.factplace.com/onenotefaq.htm Show quoteHide quote > Hi, > > Before I get into this arena with the purchase of a new > wireless-capable notebook, one very basic question: is wireless and > wi-fi the same thing? > > I notice some notebook descriptives saying, "connect to wi-fi hotspots > anywhere!" While ohers say, "connect wirelessly anywhere!" ? > > Is this just semantics? > > Thanks for the help!! And while I'm at it, why do folks subscribe to > accounts such as T-Mobile Hot Spot? Can't a wireless notebook get on > the Net in an unlimited way? If not, WHY not, please?? > > These are very basic questions, I realize, but I might as well start > at the beginning!!?? I've had decent experience with desktop > wireless, but never with notebooka. > > THANK YOU!!!!! > > Goob > Hi
Read this first, http://www.ezlan.net/faq#terms The method that allows to create local Wireless network, and use it to connect to the Internet through you own Wireless Router/AP source (or hotspot in Internet Café etc.), is the common Wireless Installed in most Laptop. The current standard is referred too as 802.11 b/g. If a manufacturer want his 802.11b/g hardware to be certified, he can submit it to an organization that certified Wireless hardware, if it pass the tests, it can be officially called WIFI. Most Entry Level hardware is Not certified as WIFi because it is expensive and a time consuming process. Not being certified does not mean that it is Not compatible. Current 802.11 b/g hardware work together whether they are WIFI certified or not. Jack (MVP-Networking). Show quoteHide quote "goobmeister" <goobmeis***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:DDB3B687-8AD4-46D4-B527-D3DB2D0AA645@microsoft.com... > Hi, > > Before I get into this arena with the purchase of a new wireless-capable > notebook, one very basic question: is wireless and wi-fi the same thing? > > I notice some notebook descriptives saying, "connect to wi-fi hotspots > anywhere!" While ohers say, "connect wirelessly anywhere!" ? > > Is this just semantics? > > Thanks for the help!! And while I'm at it, why do folks subscribe to > accounts such as T-Mobile Hot Spot? Can't a wireless notebook get on the > Net > in an unlimited way? If not, WHY not, please?? > > These are very basic questions, I realize, but I might as well start at > the > beginning!!?? I've had decent experience with desktop wireless, but never > with notebooka. > > THANK YOU!!!!! > > Goob > -- > ALL ABOUT ME/goobmeister Wireless covers a number of technologies. Wi-Fi would be consider wireless,
but wireless would not necessarily be Wi-Fi. A wireless notebook could have a built-in cellular connection, that would allow one to connect anywhere there is a cellular signal. Wi-Fi requires an access point or an Ad-hoc connection, these are relative short range generally within 300 feet or less. Within a home their range is often less than 50 feet. Bluetooth is another form of wireless, that may connect your notebook to a mouse, a headset, a PDA, a cell phone on a LAN. Bluetooth range is very limited generally 10 to 30 feet. There is lots of chatter about Free Hotspots, truth is unless you happen to be in one of a few select cities or spend lots of time in airports, this is often more talk than reality, Most people use Wi-Fi at home, and while staying in a motel or hotel. T-mobile offers connections at airports and coffee shops for a fee. -- Show quoteHide quoteDavid Hettel Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups. Microsoft Most Valuable Professional Program http://mvp.support.microsoft.com DISCLAIMER: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranty of any kind, either expressed or implied, made in relation to the accuracy, reliability or content of this post. The author shall not be liable for any direct, indirect, incidental or consequential damages arising out of the use of, or inability to use, information or opinions expressed in this post and confers no rights. "goobmeister" <goobmeis***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:DDB3B687-8AD4-46D4-B527-D3DB2D0AA645@microsoft.com... > Hi, > > Before I get into this arena with the purchase of a new wireless-capable > notebook, one very basic question: is wireless and wi-fi the same thing? > > I notice some notebook descriptives saying, "connect to wi-fi hotspots > anywhere!" While ohers say, "connect wirelessly anywhere!" ? > > Is this just semantics? > > Thanks for the help!! And while I'm at it, why do folks subscribe to > accounts such as T-Mobile Hot Spot? Can't a wireless notebook get on the > Net > in an unlimited way? If not, WHY not, please?? > > These are very basic questions, I realize, but I might as well start at > the > beginning!!?? I've had decent experience with desktop wireless, but never > with notebooka. > > THANK YOU!!!!! > > Goob > -- > ALL ABOUT ME/goobmeister On Mon, 25 Dec 2006 17:10:37 -0500, "David Hettel"
<dah***@hotmail.com> wrote: Show quoteHide quote >Wireless covers a number of technologies. Wi-Fi would be consider wireless, at the risk of you believing that i am "correcting" you again, which i>but wireless would not necessarily be Wi-Fi. A wireless notebook could have >a built-in cellular connection, that would allow one to connect anywhere >there is a cellular signal. Wi-Fi requires an access point or an Ad-hoc >connection, these are relative short range generally within 300 feet or >less. Within a home their range is often less than 50 feet. Bluetooth is >another form of wireless, that may connect your notebook to a mouse, a >headset, a PDA, a cell phone on a LAN. Bluetooth range is very limited >generally 10 to 30 feet. > >There is lots of chatter about Free Hotspots, truth is unless you happen to >be in one of a few select cities or spend lots of time in airports, this is >often more talk than reality, Most people use Wi-Fi at home, and while >staying in a motel or hotel. T-mobile offers connections at airports and >coffee shops for a fee. am not, we have traveled much of the country in our RV and have found, and used, many, many intentionally legally open, free and unsecured wi-fi hot spots. libraries, city halls, campgrounds, retail businesses, etc. some states are even providing free wi-fi access at rest stops (iowa and texas for sure, illinois sometime in 2007...there may be othes). some open sports allow anyone to access (i know because we've asked...it's amazing what can happen when one asks permission) while others ask that you buy their goods or services. some of the latter will provide a password at the register or on the receipt as a way of keeping freeloaders off but those doing this that i have encountered don't seem to change the password often. you may not find free wi-fi in an airline's lounge, overpriced coffee shops, etc. but free wi-fi is out there...and i'm not referring to unsecured residental systems. 73, rich, n9dko On Mon, 25 Dec 2006 12:54:00 -0800, goobmeister
<goobmeis***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote: >Hi, in this context, yes.> >Before I get into this arena with the purchase of a new wireless-capable >notebook, one very basic question: is wireless and wi-fi the same thing? > >I notice some notebook descriptives saying, "connect to wi-fi hotspots >anywhere!" While ohers say, "connect wirelessly anywhere!" ? > >Is this just semantics? >Thanks for the help!! And while I'm at it, why do folks subscribe to wi-fi is merely another method for distributing a high-speed internet>accounts such as T-Mobile Hot Spot? Can't a wireless notebook get on the Net >in an unlimited way? If not, WHY not, please?? (broadband) connection. someone has to pay for that connection as well as for the wi-fi hardware to distribute that connection. some vendors like panera bread, the holiday inn and the local RV park build the cost of the broadband connection and wi-fi hardware infrastructure into the cost of whatever goods or services they are peddling. this allows them to offer "free" wi-fi to their customers. your wi-fi enabled laptop CAN get onto the net through ANY wi-fi hot spot provided the owner of the system has either made that connection open and unencrypted or provided you with the login parameters. the t-mobile wireless access is not wi-fi in this context. tmobile (as well as cingular, verizon, sprint, earthlink and others) offer wireless access thru their cellular phone infrastructure. for this they charge a monthly fee. access to this type of wireless is done either by tethering your cellphone to your laptop or by using an 'aircard' that slips into your PCMCIA or ExpressCard slot on your laptop. when you're using a wi-fi connection whatever company is providing the broadband access to the wi-fi network is your ISP. if you're using a wireless connection such as tmobile or verizon then tmobile or verizon is your ISP. there are ways to use a wireless connection without subscribing to a data plan (backdoor access). more information on that can be had at <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/InternetByCellPhone/> >These are very basic questions, I realize, but I might as well start at the 73,>beginning!!?? I've had decent experience with desktop wireless, but never >with notebooka. > >THANK YOU!!!!! > >Goob rich, n9dko Hi
It is just getting more confusing. The term WIFI by itself is meaningless. For functional purposes the word WIFI should be dropped (or suggested to be dropped) when some one need explanation. Read slowly: "Wi-Fi (also WiFi, wifi, etc.) is a brand originally licensed by the Wi-Fi Alliance® to describe the underlying technology of wireless local area networks (WLAN) based on the IEEE 802.11". The above is a quote from, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wi-Fi It is important to explain/understand the specific technology that the user, have, intend, or need to get. As an Example to State that "wi-fi is merely another method for distributing a high-speed internet (broadband) connection", is incorrect. There are few methods to distribute the Internet through Wireless and some of them use 2.4GHz hardware, but it has nothing to do with 802.11Wireless certification. Jack (MVP-Networking). Show quoteHide quote "goobmeister" <goobmeis***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:DDB3B687-8AD4-46D4-B527-D3DB2D0AA645@microsoft.com... > Hi, > > Before I get into this arena with the purchase of a new wireless-capable > notebook, one very basic question: is wireless and wi-fi the same thing? > > I notice some notebook descriptives saying, "connect to wi-fi hotspots > anywhere!" While ohers say, "connect wirelessly anywhere!" ? > > Is this just semantics? > > Thanks for the help!! And while I'm at it, why do folks subscribe to > accounts such as T-Mobile Hot Spot? Can't a wireless notebook get on the > Net > in an unlimited way? If not, WHY not, please?? > > These are very basic questions, I realize, but I might as well start at > the > beginning!!?? I've had decent experience with desktop wireless, but never > with notebooka. > > THANK YOU!!!!! > > Goob > -- > ALL ABOUT ME/goobmeister "Jack (MVP-Networking)." wrote: Yep, it is confusing. Practically, Wi-Fi means "802.11 family network device > It is just getting more confusing. ............ > As an Example to State that "wi-fi is merely another method for distributing > a high-speed internet (broadband) connection", is incorrect. There are few > methods to distribute the Internet through Wireless and some of them use > 2.4GHz hardware, but it has nothing to do with 802.11Wireless certification. certified by a Wi-Fi Alliance authorized lab". There are several kinds of 802.11, some work in the 2.4 Ghz band, and some in 5 Ghz. 802.11 devces may be used for internet access, or for anything else (for example, for LAN, VOIP or P2P data connection). Another wireless options are all types of cellular data and the emerging WiMAX (802.16) which usage is very similar to cellular. Both are referred to as "Wireless WAN" and always require subscription to the service. They can not make LAN or peer-to-peer connection. Other wireless that can be used for networking or internet access (BT, UWB ....) are definitely not related to Wi-Fi. Hope this is clearer now... Regards, --PA THANK YOU!
All of the replies are marvelously helpful and gratefully appreciated. Now I'm more confused than ever! But not in a bad way...what I'm getting is that I'll be able to access WAPs that aren't secured, such as at airports, for no charge, but only be able to access WAPs that ARE secured, such as at coffee houses like Starbucks, through a paid subscription -- T-Mobile for example. I'm also getting (guessing?) that the mobile Centrino technology with the M processor, first introduced by Intel, is what I'll want for my laptop as a minimum so I don't have to play with a wireless card for my PCMCIA slot? Then I really go out on a limb and assume (ugh!) that the new core 2 duo technology, if I can afford that processor, will give me at least what the M processor can? How am I doing so far? THANKS in advance! Goob -- Show quoteHide quoteALL ABOUT ME/goobmeister "goobmeister" wrote: > Hi, > > Before I get into this arena with the purchase of a new wireless-capable > notebook, one very basic question: is wireless and wi-fi the same thing? > > I notice some notebook descriptives saying, "connect to wi-fi hotspots > anywhere!" While ohers say, "connect wirelessly anywhere!" ? > > Is this just semantics? > > Thanks for the help!! And while I'm at it, why do folks subscribe to > accounts such as T-Mobile Hot Spot? Can't a wireless notebook get on the Net > in an unlimited way? If not, WHY not, please?? > > These are very basic questions, I realize, but I might as well start at the > beginning!!?? I've had decent experience with desktop wireless, but never > with notebooka. > > THANK YOU!!!!! > > Goob > -- > ALL ABOUT ME/goobmeister You're doing good so far. As to built-in or by PCMCIA cards (actually
cardbus a newer version of PCMCIA it's hard to impossible to find new PCMCIA Wi-Fi cards and cardbus cards will not operate in older PCMCIA only slots.) either way you'll need to play. Most cardbus cards will cover two slots or block the top slot if use in the bottom slot of stack slots. Generally the cardbus cards will give the fastest connection and also the greatest range. The newest IBM laptops just started shipping with "N" type radios but the current drivers do not permit bonding two channels for maximum throughput. Cardbus N cards have been doing this for months. Also unless your notebook comes with a WAN card you'll not be able to connect to cellular network with a built-in Wi-Fi card. WAN (Cellular) is not the same as Wi-Fi. T-mobile offers two different services a Wi-Fi plan that is available in some airports, restaurants, and coffee houses, and a cellular plan. Getting one does not mean you have the other. There are a number of ways of making any of these connections, with a number of different hardware devices. -- Show quoteHide quoteDavid Hettel Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups. Microsoft Most Valuable Professional Program http://mvp.support.microsoft.com DISCLAIMER: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranty of any kind, either expressed or implied, made in relation to the accuracy, reliability or content of this post. The author shall not be liable for any direct, indirect, incidental or consequential damages arising out of the use of, or inability to use, information or opinions expressed in this post and confers no rights. "goobmeister" <goobmeis***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:D52C0275-826D-4E85-856A-6C623AB63CFF@microsoft.com... > THANK YOU! > > All of the replies are marvelously helpful and gratefully appreciated. > Now > I'm more confused than ever! But not in a bad way...what I'm getting is > that > I'll be able to access WAPs that aren't secured, such as at airports, for > no > charge, but only be able to access WAPs that ARE secured, such as at > coffee > houses like Starbucks, through a paid subscription -- T-Mobile for > example. > > I'm also getting (guessing?) that the mobile Centrino technology with the > M > processor, first introduced by Intel, is what I'll want for my laptop as a > minimum so I don't have to play with a wireless card for my PCMCIA slot? > Then I really go out on a limb and assume (ugh!) that the new core 2 duo > technology, if I can afford that processor, will give me at least what the > M > processor can? > > How am I doing so far? > > THANKS in advance! > > Goob > -- > ALL ABOUT ME/goobmeister > > > "goobmeister" wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> Before I get into this arena with the purchase of a new wireless-capable >> notebook, one very basic question: is wireless and wi-fi the same thing? >> >> I notice some notebook descriptives saying, "connect to wi-fi hotspots >> anywhere!" While ohers say, "connect wirelessly anywhere!" ? >> >> Is this just semantics? >> >> Thanks for the help!! And while I'm at it, why do folks subscribe to >> accounts such as T-Mobile Hot Spot? Can't a wireless notebook get on the >> Net >> in an unlimited way? If not, WHY not, please?? >> >> These are very basic questions, I realize, but I might as well start at >> the >> beginning!!?? I've had decent experience with desktop wireless, but >> never >> with notebooka. >> >> THANK YOU!!!!! >> >> Goob >> -- >> ALL ABOUT ME/goobmeister Hi
From a point of view of Wireless it does not matter so much what you have (Duo Core or not means nothing to Wireless, and Networking). Even old slow Laptop do very wel,l as long as they Have a good 802.11 b/g card intstalled. Jack (MVP-Networking). Show quoteHide quote "goobmeister" <goobmeis***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:D52C0275-826D-4E85-856A-6C623AB63CFF@microsoft.com... > THANK YOU! > > All of the replies are marvelously helpful and gratefully appreciated. > Now > I'm more confused than ever! But not in a bad way...what I'm getting is > that > I'll be able to access WAPs that aren't secured, such as at airports, for > no > charge, but only be able to access WAPs that ARE secured, such as at > coffee > houses like Starbucks, through a paid subscription -- T-Mobile for > example. > > I'm also getting (guessing?) that the mobile Centrino technology with the > M > processor, first introduced by Intel, is what I'll want for my laptop as a > minimum so I don't have to play with a wireless card for my PCMCIA slot? > Then I really go out on a limb and assume (ugh!) that the new core 2 duo > technology, if I can afford that processor, will give me at least what the > M > processor can? > > How am I doing so far? > > THANKS in advance! > > Goob > -- > ALL ABOUT ME/goobmeister > > > "goobmeister" wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> Before I get into this arena with the purchase of a new wireless-capable >> notebook, one very basic question: is wireless and wi-fi the same thing? >> >> I notice some notebook descriptives saying, "connect to wi-fi hotspots >> anywhere!" While ohers say, "connect wirelessly anywhere!" ? >> >> Is this just semantics? >> >> Thanks for the help!! And while I'm at it, why do folks subscribe to >> accounts such as T-Mobile Hot Spot? Can't a wireless notebook get on the >> Net >> in an unlimited way? If not, WHY not, please?? >> >> These are very basic questions, I realize, but I might as well start at >> the >> beginning!!?? I've had decent experience with desktop wireless, but >> never >> with notebooka. >> >> THANK YOU!!!!! >> >> Goob >> -- >> ALL ABOUT ME/goobmeister On Mon, 25 Dec 2006 17:00:01 -0800, goobmeister
<goobmeis***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote: >THANK YOU! correct> >All of the replies are marvelously helpful and gratefully appreciated. Now >I'm more confused than ever! But not in a bad way...what I'm getting is that >I'll be able to access WAPs that aren't secured, such as at airports, for no >charge, > but only be able to access WAPs that ARE secured, such as at coffee partly. starbucks and others like it MAY require a password (which>houses like Starbucks, through a paid subscription -- T-Mobile for example. would be given to you when you buy whatever they're selling) or not but it has nothing to do with tmobile. tmobile (and verizon, sprint and other cellular companies) SELL wireless internet access that uses their cellular phone network. if you're in range of one of their towers then you'd have access. and to acess their wireless systems you need a specific type of card from whatever company you're subscribing to. the generic term 'wi-fi' uses as it's pathway to the net DSL, satellite or cable broadband. to access a 'wi-fi' system all you need is a generic 'wi-fi' card (built-in to your pc or added via USB or PCMCIA/ExpressCard slot). 'wi-fi' and wireless are similar in that you're accessing the net wirelessly but they each use different technologies to get you there. >I'm also getting (guessing?) that the mobile Centrino technology with the M that would be one option. in most 'wi-fi' systems you should have no>processor, first introduced by Intel, is what I'll want for my laptop as a >minimum so I don't have to play with a wireless card for my PCMCIA slot? problem accessing the signal with a built-in wi-fi card. in weak signal areas (campgrounds, rv parks, etc) many folks use USB adaptors or PCMCIA/ExpressCard slot cards to which an external antenna can be attached for increased range. not all built-in 'wi-fi' cards are created equal. if you're buying a dell laptop avoid the dell wi-fi card and spring the extra few bucks for the intel card. >Then I really go out on a limb and assume (ugh!) that the new core 2 duo 73,>technology, if I can afford that processor, will give me at least what the M >processor can? > >How am I doing so far? > >THANKS in advance! > >Goob rich, n9dko Rich this is the second time you've attempt to correct something I've said.
Please don't do it again. T-Mobile does offer Wi-Fi plans. You'll need their plan at Borders, American Airlines Admirals Club, and StarBucks to name just a few. In fact they offer the worlds largest private Wi-Fi network. And I believe you'll find that Starbucks will not "give" you a password, they will however "sell" you a T-mobile account. T-mobile is also into the Wi-Fi business, all you need is a Wi-Fi card and an account. As I have stated most cards are Cardbus cards they are not PCMCIA cards or ExpressCards. PCMCIA cards will fit and work in a Cardbus slot, Cardbus cards do not fit into a PCMCIA slot and will not work in such a slot. An ExpressCard is not compatible with a PCMCIA or Cardbus slot mechanically. You supplied a lot of your beliefs, unfortunately much of your thrust has been wrong. -- Show quoteHide quoteDavid Hettel Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups. Microsoft Most Valuable Professional Program http://mvp.support.microsoft.com DISCLAIMER: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranty of any kind, either expressed or implied, made in relation to the accuracy, reliability or content of this post. The author shall not be liable for any direct, indirect, incidental or consequential damages arising out of the use of, or inability to use, information or opinions expressed in this post and confers no rights. "Rich" <r***@donotsendmeemail.com> wrote in message news:m992p2td4igb8hdv21utu95328u6kaqn6j@4ax.com... > On Mon, 25 Dec 2006 17:00:01 -0800, goobmeister > <goobmeis***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote: > >>THANK YOU! >> >>All of the replies are marvelously helpful and gratefully appreciated. >>Now >>I'm more confused than ever! But not in a bad way...what I'm getting is >>that >>I'll be able to access WAPs that aren't secured, such as at airports, for >>no >>charge, > > correct > >> but only be able to access WAPs that ARE secured, such as at coffee >>houses like Starbucks, through a paid subscription -- T-Mobile for >>example. > > partly. starbucks and others like it MAY require a password (which > would be given to you when you buy whatever they're selling) or not > but it has nothing to do with tmobile. > > tmobile (and verizon, sprint and other cellular companies) SELL > wireless internet access that uses their cellular phone network. if > you're in range of one of their towers then you'd have access. and to > acess their wireless systems you need a specific type of card from > whatever company you're subscribing to. > > the generic term 'wi-fi' uses as it's pathway to the net DSL, > satellite or cable broadband. to access a 'wi-fi' system all you need > is a generic 'wi-fi' card (built-in to your pc or added via USB or > PCMCIA/ExpressCard slot). 'wi-fi' and wireless are similar in that > you're accessing the net wirelessly but they each use different > technologies to get you there. > >>I'm also getting (guessing?) that the mobile Centrino technology with the >>M >>processor, first introduced by Intel, is what I'll want for my laptop as a >>minimum so I don't have to play with a wireless card for my PCMCIA slot? > > that would be one option. in most 'wi-fi' systems you should have no > problem accessing the signal with a built-in wi-fi card. in weak > signal areas (campgrounds, rv parks, etc) many folks use USB adaptors > or PCMCIA/ExpressCard slot cards to which an external antenna can be > attached for increased range. > > not all built-in 'wi-fi' cards are created equal. if you're buying a > dell laptop avoid the dell wi-fi card and spring the extra few bucks > for the intel card. > >>Then I really go out on a limb and assume (ugh!) that the new core 2 duo >>technology, if I can afford that processor, will give me at least what the >>M >>processor can? >> >>How am I doing so far? >> >>THANKS in advance! >> >>Goob > > 73, > rich, n9dko > Thank you again ever so much! The best answers, which I'm definitely getting
here, always seem to raise more questions :() One reference is made to "a good 802.11 b/g card intstalled." Who manufactures such a card? Belkin, Netgear, et al? I currently have a wired cable modem (mfr. Ambit) which I suppose I would have to replace with a wireless router? I have an older D-Link model with a PCI antenna because there once were two desktops communicating wirelessly with the router, including a printer, but I'd like to go with a newer router so I can use the notebook at home wirelessly while my desktop continues to use its wired connection. During my reading of the suggested links, I came across a site named Boingo which charges a fee for their software to, among other things, sniff out hotspots. Any opinions, other suggestions, about that type of technology? Seems my one issue still bugging concerns the following, and I quote: "unless your notebook comes with a WAN card you'll not be able to connect to cellular network with a built-in Wi-Fi card. WAN (Cellular) is not the same as Wi-Fi. T-mobile offers two different services a Wi-Fi plan that is available in some airports, restaurants, and coffee houses, and a cellular plan. Getting one does not mean you have the other. There are a number of ways of making any of these connections, with a number of different hardware devices." Thank you again, in advance, for any assistance : ) Happy Holidays, Goob -- Show quoteHide quoteALL ABOUT ME/goobmeister "goobmeister" wrote: > Hi, > > Before I get into this arena with the purchase of a new wireless-capable > notebook, one very basic question: is wireless and wi-fi the same thing? > > I notice some notebook descriptives saying, "connect to wi-fi hotspots > anywhere!" While ohers say, "connect wirelessly anywhere!" ? > > Is this just semantics? > > Thanks for the help!! And while I'm at it, why do folks subscribe to > accounts such as T-Mobile Hot Spot? Can't a wireless notebook get on the Net > in an unlimited way? If not, WHY not, please?? > > These are very basic questions, I realize, but I might as well start at the > beginning!!?? I've had decent experience with desktop wireless, but never > with notebooka. > > THANK YOU!!!!! > > Goob > -- > ALL ABOUT ME/goobmeister Hi
Wireless 802.11 b/g is what you are going to use at home to connect to the your LAN. If the Network is also connected to the Internet (usually with Modem and Wireless Cable/DSL Router) the 802/11 b/g card provide Wireless connection to the Internet. Most Hot Spot are based on 802.11 b/g since 98% of people who have Wireless Laptops have 802.11 b/g. Some Hot Spot are free, and some are not but almost all use 802.11 b/g. However when some one goes on the road and need to ensure Internet connection independent of Hot Spot, you can get a Cellular Internet Card. A cellular card works with the Cellular phone system and provide directly Internet to the Laptop (sort of Wireless Dialup Internet), it is costly and slow but for some one on the road it migh very valuable. At the moment, you are going in circles for nothing, you need to get 802.11 b/g capable Laptop get one and continue from there. If you would find in the future that you need additional forms of Wireless you would get what ever specifically fits your needs at the time, and would plug it into Laptop as a PCMCIA Card. Leave Boingo alone it is not of real value if you use Windows XP. If later On you need some thing specific, you can always get additional Boingo, or what ever else. Otherwise you are like some one who needs an apartment in New York, and are asking about apartments in LA (after all who knows may be one day you would move to LA). Wireless Hardware - http://www.ezlan.net/Wireless_Hardware.html My New Wireless does not work - http://www.ezlan.net/wireless.html Wireless, Basic Configuration - http://www.ezlan.net/Wireless_Config.html Wireless Security - http://www.ezlan.net/Wireless_Security.html Jack (MVP-Networking). Show quoteHide quote "goobmeister" <goobmeis***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:BAF94193-7A18-4BEC-8D45-23BDD75C597D@microsoft.com... > Thank you again ever so much! The best answers, which I'm definitely > getting > here, always seem to raise more questions :() > > One reference is made to "a good 802.11 b/g card intstalled." Who > manufactures such a card? Belkin, Netgear, et al? > > I currently have a wired cable modem (mfr. Ambit) which I suppose I would > have to replace with a wireless router? I have an older D-Link model with > a > PCI antenna because there once were two desktops communicating wirelessly > with the router, including a printer, but I'd like to go with a newer > router > so I can use the notebook at home wirelessly while my desktop continues to > use its wired connection. > > During my reading of the suggested links, I came across a site named > Boingo > which charges a fee for their software to, among other things, sniff out > hotspots. Any opinions, other suggestions, about that type of technology? > > Seems my one issue still bugging concerns the following, and I quote: > > "unless your notebook comes with a WAN card you'll not be able to connect > to > cellular network with a built-in Wi-Fi card. WAN (Cellular) is not the > same > as Wi-Fi. T-mobile offers two different services a Wi-Fi plan that is > available in some airports, restaurants, and coffee houses, and a cellular > plan. Getting one does not mean you have the other. There are a number of > ways of making any of these connections, with a number of different > hardware > devices." > > Thank you again, in advance, for any assistance : ) > > Happy Holidays, > > Goob > -- > ALL ABOUT ME/goobmeister > > > "goobmeister" wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> Before I get into this arena with the purchase of a new wireless-capable >> notebook, one very basic question: is wireless and wi-fi the same thing? >> >> I notice some notebook descriptives saying, "connect to wi-fi hotspots >> anywhere!" While ohers say, "connect wirelessly anywhere!" ? >> >> Is this just semantics? >> >> Thanks for the help!! And while I'm at it, why do folks subscribe to >> accounts such as T-Mobile Hot Spot? Can't a wireless notebook get on the >> Net >> in an unlimited way? If not, WHY not, please?? >> >> These are very basic questions, I realize, but I might as well start at >> the >> beginning!!?? I've had decent experience with desktop wireless, but >> never >> with notebooka. >> >> THANK YOU!!!!! >> >> Goob >> -- >> ALL ABOUT ME/goobmeister Thank you for all the hard work and your time to help me, which you have
greatly : ) It did feel like I was going in circles, so now I can concentrate on purchasing the laptop. The analogy to NYC and LA is humorously ironic considering that I live very near LA (and once lived in Manhattan's Upper East Side)!! Goob -- Show quoteHide quoteALL ABOUT ME/goobmeister "goobmeister" wrote: > Hi, > > Before I get into this arena with the purchase of a new wireless-capable > notebook, one very basic question: is wireless and wi-fi the same thing? > > I notice some notebook descriptives saying, "connect to wi-fi hotspots > anywhere!" While ohers say, "connect wirelessly anywhere!" ? > > Is this just semantics? > > Thanks for the help!! And while I'm at it, why do folks subscribe to > accounts such as T-Mobile Hot Spot? Can't a wireless notebook get on the Net > in an unlimited way? If not, WHY not, please?? > > These are very basic questions, I realize, but I might as well start at the > beginning!!?? I've had decent experience with desktop wireless, but never > with notebooka. > > THANK YOU!!!!! > > Goob > -- > ALL ABOUT ME/goobmeister Hi
LOL, I guess that next time I should choose cities in Tibet. The Upper East Side is still good to me. Jack (MVP-Networking). Show quoteHide quote "goobmeister" <goobmeis***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:6ECC677F-1C1F-48D6-B010-6B0E23F8ECB6@microsoft.com... > Thank you for all the hard work and your time to help me, which you have > greatly : ) It did feel like I was going in circles, so now I can > concentrate on purchasing the laptop. The analogy to NYC and LA is > humorously ironic considering that I live very near LA (and once lived in > Manhattan's Upper East Side)!! > > Goob > -- > ALL ABOUT ME/goobmeister > > > "goobmeister" wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> Before I get into this arena with the purchase of a new wireless-capable >> notebook, one very basic question: is wireless and wi-fi the same thing? >> >> I notice some notebook descriptives saying, "connect to wi-fi hotspots >> anywhere!" While ohers say, "connect wirelessly anywhere!" ? >> >> Is this just semantics? >> >> Thanks for the help!! And while I'm at it, why do folks subscribe to >> accounts such as T-Mobile Hot Spot? Can't a wireless notebook get on the >> Net >> in an unlimited way? If not, WHY not, please?? >> >> These are very basic questions, I realize, but I might as well start at >> the >> beginning!!?? I've had decent experience with desktop wireless, but >> never >> with notebooka. >> >> THANK YOU!!!!! >> >> Goob >> -- >> ALL ABOUT ME/goobmeister I have Verizon Broadband service (Now aval. in express card)
It is allready in Los Angeles. I believe Verizon wireless spent billions (35) and it is up and running, National high-speed 3G Evolution-Data Optimized (EV-DO) network. Download complex files and view email attachments with average download speeds of 400-700 kbps capable of reaching up to 2.0 Mbps http://b2b.vzw.com/broadband/serviceoverview.html Cellular broadband is going to go BIG!!!!!!!!!!!! For your info I live near LosAngeles California I own: A new ASUS Notebook, with Intel core 2 duo T7400, (2x2.16GHz) 4MB 667FSB processer. Memory -2GB (2 x 1GB) 667 MHz DDR2., ATI mobility Radon X1600 256MB Graphics card, 802.11a/b/g/n Pro wireless. I've used the service all over town, even going 60mph on the freeway I stay connected. IM HOOKED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Show quoteHide quote "goobmeister" wrote: > Hi, > > Before I get into this arena with the purchase of a new wireless-capable > notebook, one very basic question: is wireless and wi-fi the same thing? > > I notice some notebook descriptives saying, "connect to wi-fi hotspots > anywhere!" While ohers say, "connect wirelessly anywhere!" ? > > Is this just semantics? > > Thanks for the help!! And while I'm at it, why do folks subscribe to > accounts such as T-Mobile Hot Spot? Can't a wireless notebook get on the Net > in an unlimited way? If not, WHY not, please?? > > These are very basic questions, I realize, but I might as well start at the > beginning!!?? I've had decent experience with desktop wireless, but never > with notebooka. > > THANK YOU!!!!! > > Goob > -- > ALL ABOUT ME/goobmeister Hello All,
Special thanks to Jack Wireless Networking MVP and The Count. I FINALLY purchased my notebook after spending weeks comparing models: a 64-bit Sony VAIO® VGN-C240E/B notebook with Vista Home Premium at MicroCenter in Costa Mesa/Irvine CA, and have pretty much the identical configuration as The Count. Before I take my notebook out of the box and start using it, what would be some helpful precautions, e. g., virus setup, setting up a Verizon Wireless broadband account with an express card, etc?? All advice is appreciated greatly!! Also, this notebook has integrated video and I would have had to cough up an extra $400 for a dedicated nVidia vid card. I'm hoping that my 2 gigs of RAM will help overcome any shared RAM sacrifices? Concerning the so-called "express card" I wish to purchase at Verizon: I was told a friend had sent her notebook back to DELL so they could install a "chip" in it to give her such broadband access. Is that different from a card that I purchase from a local Verizon dealer? THANKS in advance for any/all help all you out there can give me! I'm off on my journey! Goob -- Show quoteHide quoteALL ABOUT ME/goobmeister "the count" wrote: > I have Verizon Broadband service (Now aval. in express card) > It is allready in Los Angeles. I believe Verizon wireless spent billions > (35) and it is up and running, National high-speed 3G Evolution-Data > Optimized (EV-DO) network. Download complex files and view email attachments > with average download speeds of 400-700 kbps capable of reaching up to 2.0 > Mbps > > http://b2b.vzw.com/broadband/serviceoverview.html > > > Cellular broadband is going to go BIG!!!!!!!!!!!! > > For your info I live near LosAngeles California I own: A new ASUS > Notebook, with Intel core 2 duo T7400, (2x2.16GHz) 4MB 667FSB processer. > Memory -2GB (2 x 1GB) 667 MHz DDR2., ATI mobility Radon X1600 256MB Graphics > card, 802.11a/b/g/n Pro wireless. > > I've used the service all over town, even going 60mph on the freeway I stay > connected. > > IM HOOKED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! > > > > "goobmeister" wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > Before I get into this arena with the purchase of a new wireless-capable > > notebook, one very basic question: is wireless and wi-fi the same thing? > > > > I notice some notebook descriptives saying, "connect to wi-fi hotspots > > anywhere!" While ohers say, "connect wirelessly anywhere!" ? > > > > Is this just semantics? > > > > Thanks for the help!! And while I'm at it, why do folks subscribe to > > accounts such as T-Mobile Hot Spot? Can't a wireless notebook get on the Net > > in an unlimited way? If not, WHY not, please?? > > > > These are very basic questions, I realize, but I might as well start at the > > beginning!!?? I've had decent experience with desktop wireless, but never > > with notebooka. > > > > THANK YOU!!!!! > > > > Goob > > -- > > ALL ABOUT ME/goobmeister Let's see in answer to your question about the express card, yes. Most
likely she has a PCI-express slot built into her computer, this would be inside her notebook, and is a different kind of slot than an express slot. Also you should be aware that there are at least two kinds of express slots, a narrow one and a wide one. And they are not backward compatible with a PCMCIA slot or a Cardbus slot, directly. Just my humble opinion, but if you want Vista, I would strongly recommend that you consider purchasing the nVidia card. Integrated graphics don't in my opinion cut it with vista. Most likely your lack of a graphics card will set your vista performance limit. Vista needs lots of graphics memory -- Show quoteHide quoteDavid Hettel Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups. Microsoft Most Valuable Professional Program http://mvp.support.microsoft.com DISCLAIMER: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranty of any kind, either expressed or implied, made in relation to the accuracy, reliability or content of this post. The author shall not be liable for any direct, indirect, incidental or consequential damages arising out of the use of, or inability to use, information or opinions expressed in this post and confers no rights. "goobmeister" <goobmeis***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:6AA49050-9B9A-4D1F-A461-9BD6A5089F7B@microsoft.com... > Hello All, > > Special thanks to Jack Wireless Networking MVP and The Count. > > I FINALLY purchased my notebook after spending weeks comparing models: a > 64-bit Sony VAIO® VGN-C240E/B notebook with Vista Home Premium at > MicroCenter > in Costa Mesa/Irvine CA, and have pretty much the identical configuration > as > The Count. > > Before I take my notebook out of the box and start using it, what would be > some helpful precautions, e. g., virus setup, setting up a Verizon > Wireless > broadband account with an express card, etc?? All advice is appreciated > greatly!! > > Also, this notebook has integrated video and I would have had to cough up > an > extra $400 for a dedicated nVidia vid card. I'm hoping that my 2 gigs of > RAM > will help overcome any shared RAM sacrifices? > > Concerning the so-called "express card" I wish to purchase at Verizon: I > was told a friend had sent her notebook back to DELL so they could install > a > "chip" in it to give her such broadband access. Is that different from a > card that I purchase from a local Verizon dealer? > > THANKS in advance for any/all help all you out there can give me! I'm off > on my journey! > > Goob > -- > ALL ABOUT ME/goobmeister > > > "the count" wrote: > >> I have Verizon Broadband service (Now aval. in express card) >> It is allready in Los Angeles. I believe Verizon wireless spent billions >> (35) and it is up and running, National high-speed 3G Evolution-Data >> Optimized (EV-DO) network. Download complex files and view email >> attachments >> with average download speeds of 400-700 kbps capable of reaching up to >> 2.0 >> Mbps >> >> http://b2b.vzw.com/broadband/serviceoverview.html >> >> >> Cellular broadband is going to go BIG!!!!!!!!!!!! >> >> For your info I live near LosAngeles California I own: A new ASUS >> Notebook, with Intel core 2 duo T7400, (2x2.16GHz) 4MB 667FSB processer. >> Memory -2GB (2 x 1GB) 667 MHz DDR2., ATI mobility Radon X1600 256MB >> Graphics >> card, 802.11a/b/g/n Pro wireless. >> >> I've used the service all over town, even going 60mph on the freeway I >> stay >> connected. >> >> IM HOOKED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! >> >> >> >> "goobmeister" wrote: >> >> > Hi, >> > >> > Before I get into this arena with the purchase of a new >> > wireless-capable >> > notebook, one very basic question: is wireless and wi-fi the same >> > thing? >> > >> > I notice some notebook descriptives saying, "connect to wi-fi hotspots >> > anywhere!" While ohers say, "connect wirelessly anywhere!" ? >> > >> > Is this just semantics? >> > >> > Thanks for the help!! And while I'm at it, why do folks subscribe to >> > accounts such as T-Mobile Hot Spot? Can't a wireless notebook get on >> > the Net >> > in an unlimited way? If not, WHY not, please?? >> > >> > These are very basic questions, I realize, but I might as well start at >> > the >> > beginning!!?? I've had decent experience with desktop wireless, but >> > never >> > with notebooka. >> > >> > THANK YOU!!!!! >> > >> > Goob >> > -- >> > ALL ABOUT ME/goobmeister THANK YOU!
I may yet purchase the more expensive unit with the dedicated vid card. BTW, there are 2 express slots on the model I purchased -- both a narrow and a wide. The more expensive model is set up for Cingular -- prob the built-in PCI model you mention -- and has WIN XP Pro w/SP2...not that that would be a bad thing. I wonder if I'd be able to run a Verizon express card on the more expensive model since it's been set up for Cingular already? Goob -- Show quoteHide quoteALL ABOUT ME/goobmeister "David Hettel" wrote: > Let's see in answer to your question about the express card, yes. Most > likely she has a PCI-express slot built into her computer, this would be > inside her notebook, and is a different kind of slot than an express slot. > Also you should be aware that there are at least two kinds of express slots, > a narrow one and a wide one. And they are not backward compatible with a > PCMCIA slot or a Cardbus slot, directly. > > Just my humble opinion, but if you want Vista, I would strongly recommend > that you consider purchasing the nVidia card. Integrated graphics don't in > my opinion cut it with vista. Most likely your lack of a graphics card will > set your vista performance limit. Vista needs lots of graphics memory > > -- > David Hettel > > Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group for everyone > to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions addressed directly to me in > E-mail or news groups. > > Microsoft Most Valuable Professional Program > http://mvp.support.microsoft.com > > DISCLAIMER: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranty of any kind, > either expressed or implied, made in relation to the accuracy, reliability > or content of this post. The author shall not be liable for any direct, > indirect, incidental or consequential damages arising out of the use of, or > inability to use, information or opinions expressed in this post and confers > no rights. > > > > "goobmeister" <goobmeis***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > news:6AA49050-9B9A-4D1F-A461-9BD6A5089F7B@microsoft.com... > > Hello All, > > > > Special thanks to Jack Wireless Networking MVP and The Count. > > > > I FINALLY purchased my notebook after spending weeks comparing models: a > > 64-bit Sony VAIO® VGN-C240E/B notebook with Vista Home Premium at > > MicroCenter > > in Costa Mesa/Irvine CA, and have pretty much the identical configuration > > as > > The Count. > > > > Before I take my notebook out of the box and start using it, what would be > > some helpful precautions, e. g., virus setup, setting up a Verizon > > Wireless > > broadband account with an express card, etc?? All advice is appreciated > > greatly!! > > > > Also, this notebook has integrated video and I would have had to cough up > > an > > extra $400 for a dedicated nVidia vid card. I'm hoping that my 2 gigs of > > RAM > > will help overcome any shared RAM sacrifices? > > > > Concerning the so-called "express card" I wish to purchase at Verizon: I > > was told a friend had sent her notebook back to DELL so they could install > > a > > "chip" in it to give her such broadband access. Is that different from a > > card that I purchase from a local Verizon dealer? > > > > THANKS in advance for any/all help all you out there can give me! I'm off > > on my journey! > > > > Goob > > -- > > ALL ABOUT ME/goobmeister > > > > > > "the count" wrote: > > > >> I have Verizon Broadband service (Now aval. in express card) > >> It is allready in Los Angeles. I believe Verizon wireless spent billions > >> (35) and it is up and running, National high-speed 3G Evolution-Data > >> Optimized (EV-DO) network. Download complex files and view email > >> attachments > >> with average download speeds of 400-700 kbps capable of reaching up to > >> 2.0 > >> Mbps > >> > >> http://b2b.vzw.com/broadband/serviceoverview.html > >> > >> > >> Cellular broadband is going to go BIG!!!!!!!!!!!! > >> > >> For your info I live near LosAngeles California I own: A new ASUS > >> Notebook, with Intel core 2 duo T7400, (2x2.16GHz) 4MB 667FSB processer. > >> Memory -2GB (2 x 1GB) 667 MHz DDR2., ATI mobility Radon X1600 256MB > >> Graphics > >> card, 802.11a/b/g/n Pro wireless. > >> > >> I've used the service all over town, even going 60mph on the freeway I > >> stay > >> connected. > >> > >> IM HOOKED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! > >> > >> > >> > >> "goobmeister" wrote: > >> > >> > Hi, > >> > > >> > Before I get into this arena with the purchase of a new > >> > wireless-capable > >> > notebook, one very basic question: is wireless and wi-fi the same > >> > thing? > >> > > >> > I notice some notebook descriptives saying, "connect to wi-fi hotspots > >> > anywhere!" While ohers say, "connect wirelessly anywhere!" ? > >> > > >> > Is this just semantics? > >> > > >> > Thanks for the help!! And while I'm at it, why do folks subscribe to > >> > accounts such as T-Mobile Hot Spot? Can't a wireless notebook get on > >> > the Net > >> > in an unlimited way? If not, WHY not, please?? > >> > > >> > These are very basic questions, I realize, but I might as well start at > >> > the > >> > beginning!!?? I've had decent experience with desktop wireless, but > >> > never > >> > with notebooka. > >> > > >> > THANK YOU!!!!! > >> > > >> > Goob > >> > -- > >> > ALL ABOUT ME/goobmeister > > Looks like you could get the
http://www.verizonwireless.com/b2c/store/controller?item=phoneFirst&action=viewPhoneDetail&selectedPhoneId=2407 V640 ExpressCard Note that it supports XP and does not appear to support Vista. You might want to check on that and wait until it is supported. CDMA 1xEV-DO, 1xRTT, IS 95 (800/1900 MHz) ExpressCard Technology Supports USB 2.0 and PCI Express applications New Form Factor–smaller and lighter than traditional PC cards High Speed Data Transfer (up to 2.0 Mbps) VZAccess Manager software for easy connection management 2-way SMS Messaging Flip-up Antenna LED Service Status Indicator External Antenna Connector System Requirements Card Slot:ExpressCard 34 Processor: 166 MHz Disk Drive: CD ROM Hard Disk Space: 14MB RAM: 32MB Internet Browser Software OS Support: Windows®2000/XP; MAC OS 10.3.2 or higher Dimensions: 4.4" x 1.3" x .19" Weight: 1.4 oz./39g -- Show quoteHide quoteDavid Hettel Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups. Microsoft Most Valuable Professional Program http://mvp.support.microsoft.com DISCLAIMER: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranty of any kind, either expressed or implied, made in relation to the accuracy, reliability or content of this post. The author shall not be liable for any direct, indirect, incidental or consequential damages arising out of the use of, or inability to use, information or opinions expressed in this post and confers no rights. "goobmeister" <goobmeis***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:D042EF80-A9C4-47A7-8478-57F18A3BA0EA@microsoft.com... > THANK YOU! > > I may yet purchase the more expensive unit with the dedicated vid card. > BTW, there are 2 express slots on the model I purchased -- both a narrow > and > a wide. The more expensive model is set up for Cingular -- prob the > built-in > PCI model you mention -- and has WIN XP Pro w/SP2...not that that would be > a > bad thing. I wonder if I'd be able to run a Verizon express card on the > more > expensive model since it's been set up for Cingular already? > > Goob > -- > ALL ABOUT ME/goobmeister > > > "David Hettel" wrote: > >> Let's see in answer to your question about the express card, yes. Most >> likely she has a PCI-express slot built into her computer, this would be >> inside her notebook, and is a different kind of slot than an express >> slot. >> Also you should be aware that there are at least two kinds of express >> slots, >> a narrow one and a wide one. And they are not backward compatible with a >> PCMCIA slot or a Cardbus slot, directly. >> >> Just my humble opinion, but if you want Vista, I would strongly recommend >> that you consider purchasing the nVidia card. Integrated graphics don't >> in >> my opinion cut it with vista. Most likely your lack of a graphics card >> will >> set your vista performance limit. Vista needs lots of graphics memory >> >> -- >> David Hettel >> >> Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group for >> everyone >> to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions addressed directly to me >> in >> E-mail or news groups. >> >> Microsoft Most Valuable Professional Program >> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com >> >> DISCLAIMER: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranty of any >> kind, >> either expressed or implied, made in relation to the accuracy, >> reliability >> or content of this post. The author shall not be liable for any direct, >> indirect, incidental or consequential damages arising out of the use of, >> or >> inability to use, information or opinions expressed in this post and >> confers >> no rights. >> >> >> >> "goobmeister" <goobmeis***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message >> news:6AA49050-9B9A-4D1F-A461-9BD6A5089F7B@microsoft.com... >> > Hello All, >> > >> > Special thanks to Jack Wireless Networking MVP and The Count. >> > >> > I FINALLY purchased my notebook after spending weeks comparing models: >> > a >> > 64-bit Sony VAIO® VGN-C240E/B notebook with Vista Home Premium at >> > MicroCenter >> > in Costa Mesa/Irvine CA, and have pretty much the identical >> > configuration >> > as >> > The Count. >> > >> > Before I take my notebook out of the box and start using it, what would >> > be >> > some helpful precautions, e. g., virus setup, setting up a Verizon >> > Wireless >> > broadband account with an express card, etc?? All advice is >> > appreciated >> > greatly!! >> > >> > Also, this notebook has integrated video and I would have had to cough >> > up >> > an >> > extra $400 for a dedicated nVidia vid card. I'm hoping that my 2 gigs >> > of >> > RAM >> > will help overcome any shared RAM sacrifices? >> > >> > Concerning the so-called "express card" I wish to purchase at Verizon: >> > I >> > was told a friend had sent her notebook back to DELL so they could >> > install >> > a >> > "chip" in it to give her such broadband access. Is that different from >> > a >> > card that I purchase from a local Verizon dealer? >> > >> > THANKS in advance for any/all help all you out there can give me! I'm >> > off >> > on my journey! >> > >> > Goob >> > -- >> > ALL ABOUT ME/goobmeister >> > >> > >> > "the count" wrote: >> > >> >> I have Verizon Broadband service (Now aval. in express card) >> >> It is allready in Los Angeles. I believe Verizon wireless spent >> >> billions >> >> (35) and it is up and running, National high-speed 3G Evolution-Data >> >> Optimized (EV-DO) network. Download complex files and view email >> >> attachments >> >> with average download speeds of 400-700 kbps capable of reaching up to >> >> 2.0 >> >> Mbps >> >> >> >> http://b2b.vzw.com/broadband/serviceoverview.html >> >> >> >> >> >> Cellular broadband is going to go BIG!!!!!!!!!!!! >> >> >> >> For your info I live near LosAngeles California I own: A new ASUS >> >> Notebook, with Intel core 2 duo T7400, (2x2.16GHz) 4MB 667FSB >> >> processer. >> >> Memory -2GB (2 x 1GB) 667 MHz DDR2., ATI mobility Radon X1600 256MB >> >> Graphics >> >> card, 802.11a/b/g/n Pro wireless. >> >> >> >> I've used the service all over town, even going 60mph on the freeway I >> >> stay >> >> connected. >> >> >> >> IM HOOKED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> "goobmeister" wrote: >> >> >> >> > Hi, >> >> > >> >> > Before I get into this arena with the purchase of a new >> >> > wireless-capable >> >> > notebook, one very basic question: is wireless and wi-fi the same >> >> > thing? >> >> > >> >> > I notice some notebook descriptives saying, "connect to wi-fi >> >> > hotspots >> >> > anywhere!" While ohers say, "connect wirelessly anywhere!" ? >> >> > >> >> > Is this just semantics? >> >> > >> >> > Thanks for the help!! And while I'm at it, why do folks subscribe >> >> > to >> >> > accounts such as T-Mobile Hot Spot? Can't a wireless notebook get >> >> > on >> >> > the Net >> >> > in an unlimited way? If not, WHY not, please?? >> >> > >> >> > These are very basic questions, I realize, but I might as well start >> >> > at >> >> > the >> >> > beginning!!?? I've had decent experience with desktop wireless, but >> >> > never >> >> > with notebooka. >> >> > >> >> > THANK YOU!!!!! >> >> > >> >> > Goob >> >> > -- >> >> > ALL ABOUT ME/goobmeister >> >> Thank You David...
Yes, especially since Circuit City has a special going re the Verizon C640 ExpressCard -- $50.00 main-in rebate as long as you purchase before some mid-Feb date. My question: would an embedded PCI-type card installed at the factory necessarily provide a faster connection, or is the ExpressCard just another way of connecting at the understandably slower speed? I'll need to exchange my new, still-in-the-box Sony since a VerizonWireless support tech just informed me that only Dell, HP, Toshiba, Lenovo (IBM), and Panasonic are supported by Verizon, or do I have that backwards? Goob -- Show quoteHide quoteALL ABOUT ME/goobmeister "David Hettel" wrote: > Looks like you could get the > http://www.verizonwireless.com/b2c/store/controller?item=phoneFirst&action=viewPhoneDetail&selectedPhoneId=2407 > V640 ExpressCard > Note that it supports XP and does not appear to support Vista. You might > want to check on that and wait until it is supported. > > CDMA 1xEV-DO, 1xRTT, IS 95 (800/1900 MHz) > ExpressCard Technology > Supports USB 2.0 and PCI Express applications > New Form Factor–smaller and lighter than traditional PC cards > High Speed Data Transfer (up to 2.0 Mbps) > VZAccess Manager software for easy connection management > 2-way SMS Messaging > Flip-up Antenna > LED Service Status Indicator > External Antenna Connector > > System Requirements > Card Slot:ExpressCard 34 > Processor: 166 MHz > Disk Drive: CD ROM > Hard Disk Space: 14MB > RAM: 32MB > Internet Browser Software > > OS Support: > Windows®2000/XP; MAC OS 10.3.2 or higher > > Dimensions: > 4.4" x 1.3" x .19" > Weight: 1.4 oz./39g > > -- > David Hettel > > Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group for everyone > to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions addressed directly to me in > E-mail or news groups. > > Microsoft Most Valuable Professional Program > http://mvp.support.microsoft.com > > DISCLAIMER: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranty of any kind, > either expressed or implied, made in relation to the accuracy, reliability > or content of this post. The author shall not be liable for any direct, > indirect, incidental or consequential damages arising out of the use of, or > inability to use, information or opinions expressed in this post and confers > no rights. > > > > "goobmeister" <goobmeis***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > news:D042EF80-A9C4-47A7-8478-57F18A3BA0EA@microsoft.com... > > THANK YOU! > > > > I may yet purchase the more expensive unit with the dedicated vid card. > > BTW, there are 2 express slots on the model I purchased -- both a narrow > > and > > a wide. The more expensive model is set up for Cingular -- prob the > > built-in > > PCI model you mention -- and has WIN XP Pro w/SP2...not that that would be > > a > > bad thing. I wonder if I'd be able to run a Verizon express card on the > > more > > expensive model since it's been set up for Cingular already? > > > > Goob > > -- > > ALL ABOUT ME/goobmeister > > > > > > "David Hettel" wrote: > > > >> Let's see in answer to your question about the express card, yes. Most > >> likely she has a PCI-express slot built into her computer, this would be > >> inside her notebook, and is a different kind of slot than an express > >> slot. > >> Also you should be aware that there are at least two kinds of express > >> slots, > >> a narrow one and a wide one. And they are not backward compatible with a > >> PCMCIA slot or a Cardbus slot, directly. > >> > >> Just my humble opinion, but if you want Vista, I would strongly recommend > >> that you consider purchasing the nVidia card. Integrated graphics don't > >> in > >> my opinion cut it with vista. Most likely your lack of a graphics card > >> will > >> set your vista performance limit. Vista needs lots of graphics memory > >> > >> -- > >> David Hettel > >> > >> Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group for > >> everyone > >> to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions addressed directly to me > >> in > >> E-mail or news groups. > >> > >> Microsoft Most Valuable Professional Program > >> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com > >> > >> DISCLAIMER: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranty of any > >> kind, > >> either expressed or implied, made in relation to the accuracy, > >> reliability > >> or content of this post. The author shall not be liable for any direct, > >> indirect, incidental or consequential damages arising out of the use of, > >> or > >> inability to use, information or opinions expressed in this post and > >> confers > >> no rights. > >> > >> > >> > >> "goobmeister" <goobmeis***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > >> news:6AA49050-9B9A-4D1F-A461-9BD6A5089F7B@microsoft.com... > >> > Hello All, > >> > > >> > Special thanks to Jack Wireless Networking MVP and The Count. > >> > > >> > I FINALLY purchased my notebook after spending weeks comparing models: > >> > a > >> > 64-bit Sony VAIO® VGN-C240E/B notebook with Vista Home Premium at > >> > MicroCenter > >> > in Costa Mesa/Irvine CA, and have pretty much the identical > >> > configuration > >> > as > >> > The Count. > >> > > >> > Before I take my notebook out of the box and start using it, what would > >> > be > >> > some helpful precautions, e. g., virus setup, setting up a Verizon > >> > Wireless > >> > broadband account with an express card, etc?? All advice is > >> > appreciated > >> > greatly!! > >> > > >> > Also, this notebook has integrated video and I would have had to cough > >> > up > >> > an > >> > extra $400 for a dedicated nVidia vid card. I'm hoping that my 2 gigs > >> > of > >> > RAM > >> > will help overcome any shared RAM sacrifices? > >> > > >> > Concerning the so-called "express card" I wish to purchase at Verizon: > >> > I > >> > was told a friend had sent her notebook back to DELL so they could > >> > install > >> > a > >> > "chip" in it to give her such broadband access. Is that different from > >> > a > >> > card that I purchase from a local Verizon dealer? > >> > > >> > THANKS in advance for any/all help all you out there can give me! I'm > >> > off > >> > on my journey! > >> > > >> > Goob > >> > -- > >> > ALL ABOUT ME/goobmeister > >> > > >> > > >> > "the count" wrote: > >> > > >> >> I have Verizon Broadband service (Now aval. in express card) > >> >> It is allready in Los Angeles. I believe Verizon wireless spent > >> >> billions > >> >> (35) and it is up and running, National high-speed 3G Evolution-Data > >> >> Optimized (EV-DO) network. Download complex files and view email > >> >> attachments > >> >> with average download speeds of 400-700 kbps capable of reaching up to > >> >> 2.0 > >> >> Mbps > >> >> > >> >> http://b2b.vzw.com/broadband/serviceoverview.html > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> Cellular broadband is going to go BIG!!!!!!!!!!!! > >> >> > >> >> For your info I live near LosAngeles California I own: A new ASUS > >> >> Notebook, with Intel core 2 duo T7400, (2x2.16GHz) 4MB 667FSB > >> >> processer. > >> >> Memory -2GB (2 x 1GB) 667 MHz DDR2., ATI mobility Radon X1600 256MB > >> >> Graphics > >> >> card, 802.11a/b/g/n Pro wireless. > >> >> > >> >> I've used the service all over town, even going 60mph on the freeway I > >> >> stay > >> >> connected. > >> >> > >> >> IM HOOKED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> "goobmeister" wrote: > >> >> > >> >> > Hi, > >> >> > > >> >> > Before I get into this arena with the purchase of a new > >> >> > wireless-capable > >> >> > notebook, one very basic question: is wireless and wi-fi the same > >> >> > thing? > >> >> > > >> >> > I notice some notebook descriptives saying, "connect to wi-fi > >> >> > hotspots > >> >> > anywhere!" While ohers say, "connect wirelessly anywhere!" ? > >> >> > > >> >> > Is this just semantics? > >> >> > > >> >> > Thanks for the help!! And while I'm at it, why do folks subscribe > >> >> > to > >> >> > accounts such as T-Mobile Hot Spot? Can't a wireless notebook get > >> >> > on > >> >> > the Net > >> >> > in an unlimited way? If not, WHY not, please?? > >> >> > > >> >> > These are very basic questions, I realize, but I might as well start > >> >> > at > >> >> > the > >> >> > beginning!!?? I've had decent experience with desktop wireless, but > >> >> > never > >> >> > with notebooka. > >> >> > > >> >> > THANK YOU!!!!! > >> >> > > >> >> > Goob > >> >> > -- > >> >> > ALL ABOUT ME/goobmeister > >> > >> > > 
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