> I'm using Windows Vista SP1 on a new laptop now for a month. While I'm
> rather satisfied with Vista I'm very frustrated about WLAN connectivity
> problems. Every morning I switch on my laptop it takes about 15 minutes
> until I'm finally online. I have to switch on and off the wireless card a
> couple of times, click on "Diagnose and repair" a few times, and if it
> doesn't work reboot some more. After 10 to 15 minutes the wireless
> connection is finally established and rock stable for the rest of the day.
> On the next morning the frustration starts again ...
>
> My wireless card is a Broadcom 4322 AG (driver up-to-date). The router I
> use is a FRITZ!Box 7170 (firmware up-to-date). I use DHCP. If I use an
> Ethernet cable to connect to the router there are no problems at all and
> I'm immediately online. If I use WLAN Windows Vista finds the wireless
> network pretty fast but can't identify it. I have then only local access
> and an APIPA IP address 169.254.195.158 assigned. I click then on
> "Diagnose and repair" a dozen times to request a new IP address and hope
> Windows Vista can finally identify the network correctly. If it doesn't
> work switching on/off the wireless card and some reboots sometimes help.
>
> I've read about and tried the various recommendations including setting
> registry keys like DhcpConnEnableBcastFlagToggle and
> DhcpConnForceBroadcastFlag, changing the MTU from 1500 to 1492, disabling
> IP6, shutting down any antivirus software etc. - needless to say that it
> all didn't help. It's also needless to say that my old Windows XP laptop
> and any other non-Vista devices connect in a few seconds successfully.
>
> Given the amount of cries for help regarding Vista WLAN problems on the
> Internet I'm afraid that probably noone can help me in this newsgroup
> either. What would be really great though if Microsoft stepped up to
> acknowledge that there is a serious problem and takes steps to fix it. Of
> course I don't know if it's really Microsoft's fault. But it would help
> already if Vista tells me if it's the driver or router which causes
> problems so I know whom to complain about.
>
> Boris

> I'm using Windows Vista SP1 on a new laptop now for a month. While I'm
> rather satisfied with Vista I'm very frustrated about WLAN connectivity
> problems. Every morning I switch on my laptop it takes about 15 minutes
> until I'm finally online. I have to switch on and off the wireless card a
> couple of times, click on "Diagnose and repair" a few times, and if it
> doesn't work reboot some more. After 10 to 15 minutes the wireless
> connection is finally established and rock stable for the rest of the day.
> On the next morning the frustration starts again ...
>
> My wireless card is a Broadcom 4322 AG (driver up-to-date). The router I
> use is a FRITZ!Box 7170 (firmware up-to-date). I use DHCP. If I use an
> Ethernet cable to connect to the router there are no problems at all and
> I'm immediately online. If I use WLAN Windows Vista finds the wireless
> network pretty fast but can't identify it. I have then only local access
> and an APIPA IP address 169.254.195.158 assigned. I click then on
> "Diagnose and repair" a dozen times to request a new IP address and hope
> Windows Vista can finally identify the network correctly. If it doesn't
> work switching on/off the wireless card and some reboots sometimes help.
>
> I've read about and tried the various recommendations including setting
> registry keys like DhcpConnEnableBcastFlagToggle and
> DhcpConnForceBroadcastFlag, changing the MTU from 1500 to 1492, disabling
> IP6, shutting down any antivirus software etc. - needless to say that it
> all didn't help. It's also needless to say that my old Windows XP laptop
> and any other non-Vista devices connect in a few seconds successfully.
>
> Given the amount of cries for help regarding Vista WLAN problems on the
> Internet I'm afraid that probably noone can help me in this newsgroup
> either. What would be really great though if Microsoft stepped up to
> acknowledge that there is a serious problem and takes steps to fix it. Of
> course I don't know if it's really Microsoft's fault. But it would help
> already if Vista tells me if it's the driver or router which causes
> problems so I know whom to complain about.
>
> Boris

> [...]

> On Thu, 19 Feb 2009 17:11:43 +0100, Jack (MVP-Networking).
> <j***@discussiongroup.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi
>> 169.254.195.158  means that the Wireless card is not really connoting to
>> the Wireless Router.
>> It is a default IP that is assigned by Windows when it does not find a
>> DHCP server.
>
> Yes, it's an APIPA IP address.
>
>> Some of the remedies that you try are Not related to the problem and
>> might make it worse.
>
> I would be glad if there was a tutorial which explains step by step how to
> debug and fix this problem. As it doesn't seem to exist I had to search
> for and try the many recommendations which I found on the Internet.
>
>> Wireless is very tricky since it depends on the environment too.
>
> I have seen several Windows XP laptops, an Apple laptop and a Nintendo DS
> using the very same router without any problems for years. Why should it
> be trickier for Vista?
>
>> As a first step put every thing back to default, If you want to use
>> Widows as the Wireless manager make sure that the original Wireless
>> Utility does not load
>> at Startup.
>
> I don't have a wireless utility installed and use the Vista built-in
> functions.
>
>> Check the Wireless configuration and temporarily switch off the Wireless
>> security in the Wireless Router and the computer, and try to adjust to
>> different transmitting channels in the Router (1 and 11 are usually the
>> best).
>
> I see. I've tried WEP and WPA so far but will give an unsecured network a
> try.
>
>> If it does not work take the laptop to a public place (like Internet
>> Cafe) and see if it works there. If it does work elsewhere then your
>> problem might be in the Router.
>
> I had to connect to another wireless router four weeks ago which worked
> fine. At that time I wasn't aware though how serious my connectivity
> problems become and didn't look into it.
>
>> Otherwise take into consideration that there are Millions of Laptop with
>> Vista that work well out of the box so general blames about the OS and
>> its manufacturer is Not really the solution.
>
> I tried for one month to fix this problem myself. And I'm sure you are
> very well aware that there are millions of people who are not convinced
> about Vista precisely because of issues noone ever faced with XP.
>
>> Obviously there is trouble with your system if you can not find it on
>> your own seek professional help (The need to switch on and off the
>> Wireless card might indicate hardware problem).
>
> I doubt it's a hardware problem as the wireless card works perfectly all
> day once it has identified the network and got an IP address assigned from
> the DHCP server. It only takes way too long to get this address.
>
> Boris
>
>> [...]

> [...]

> On Thu, 19 Feb 2009 20:08:14 +0100, Jack (MVP-Networking).
> <j***@discussiongroup.com> wrote:
>
>> [...]I am not saying that the utility is necessarily the cause of your
>> wireless system, but I do know that philosophical debates (I gave them
>> up at the end of Graduate School) ;) - ;) are not going to help no
>> matter what.
>
> That's true. Unfortunately I don't know anymore either what to try. I
> guess I have to wait and install Vista Service Pack 2 and new drivers for
> my wireless card when they become available - and hope. :-/
>
> Boris
>
>> [...]

> [...]

> On Thu, 19 Feb 2009 22:43:20 +0100, John <a> wrote:
>
>> It sounds like getting an IP from DHCP is the main problem here. What if
>> you
>> give Vista box a static IP, subnet mask etc? Does it connect to your WLAN
>> right away?
>
> A static IP address doesn't help unfortunately. I see that the static IP
> address, the subnet mask, the address of the default gateway etc. are all
> set correctly. And while the SSID is also correct there are packets sent
> but none received. When I click then on "Diagnose and repair" there is no
> repair option anymore (just a few recommendations). As I need to request a
> new dynamic IP address from the DHCP server a few times - so far that's
> the only option which after a couple of attempts suddenly works - I can't
> do anything anymore when I use a static IP address.
>
> I don't know what Vista is doing when it tries to connect to a wireless
> network. Is there any negotiating done? Does it try to detect the network
> capabilities? I wonder as even though I always have problems to connect to
> the network it also always works after 10 to 15 minutes (where I typically
> click on "Diagnose and repair" a dozen times; suddenly Vista gets the
> dynamic IP address and the laptop is online without any problems for the
> rest of the day).
>
> Boris
>
>> [...]

> "Boris Schaeling" <bo***@highscore.de> wrote in message
> news:op.upl5gax7hcamje@bose...
>> On Thu, 19 Feb 2009 20:08:14 +0100, Jack (MVP-Networking).
>> <j***@discussiongroup.com> wrote:
>>
>>> [...]I am not saying that the utility is necessarily the cause of your
>>> wireless system, but I do know that philosophical debates (I gave them
>>> up at the end of Graduate School) ;) - ;) are not going to help no
>>> matter what.
>>
>> That's true. Unfortunately I don't know anymore either what to try. I
>> guess I have to wait and install Vista Service Pack 2 and new drivers for
>> my wireless card when they become available - and hope. :-/
>>
>> Boris
>>
>>> [...]
>
>