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setting up a home networkI have two computers, they both hook up to a router to go to the internet,
one is wired the other is wireless. how can I get them to see each other on the network so I can share files and the printer? They have the same "workgroup" but they do not see each other. What do I need to do? "mark" <m***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message disable ALL Firewalls and security software's on both comps.news:2A94521E-332E-4F8E-B3F8-E49B5BE7C95A@microsoft.com... >I have two computers, they both hook up to a router to go to the internet, > one is wired the other is wireless. how can I get them to see each other > on > the network so I can share files and the printer? They have the same > "workgroup" but they do not see each other. What do I need to do? > Use the Windows Network Wizard on both comps to set each's Network settings. I do like to have a ping at this stage. Ping not pee. That being open Windows Command Prompt and at the prompt type ping 192.168.1.1 or 192.168.1.2 or 192.168.1.3..........you will need to know the other comps IP address for this. When you find the correct one you should get 4 pass replies. Do this from both comps. Make the files you want to be shared.....shared ie right click the file/folder and go to Sharing and Security then tick the Share this folder on the network box. Now check that you can see the other comps files. You may have to wait a few minutes for the networks to find each other or you may have to restart both comps to enable network settings. But beware cos the Firewalls and security software may reset making networking again impossible. If it does, disable them again. Now if you can Network you will need to enable the Firewall and Security Software and if that then blocks the Network you will need to delve into those software's settings and change the Permitted or Allowed Networks settings... Simple what............... "Tom E" <T*@btinternet.com> wrote in message Rubbish. I've NEVER had to do that....news:6uednQiiUZbapizUnZ2dnUVZ8j-WnZ2d@bt.com... > > disable ALL Firewalls and security software's on both comps. -- Asking a question? Please tell us the version of the application you are asking about, your OS, Service Pack level and the FULL contents of any error message(s) "Gordon" <gordonbpar***@yahoo.com> wrote in message Then it is your security software that is 'rubbish'. Unless you news:uVcexGonJHA.5124@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... > "Tom E" <T*@btinternet.com> wrote in message > news:6uednQiiUZbapizUnZ2dnUVZ8j-WnZ2d@bt.com... >> >> disable ALL Firewalls and security software's on both comps. > > Rubbish. I've NEVER had to do that.... > snip specifically set security software (firewalls) to allow 'networking' then incoming and outgoing communications are blocked. Tom E's advice is perfectly sound.
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"Edward W. Thompson" <thomed***@btopenworld.com> wrote in message thank you Ed.....I did get a little peed off with his statement. I have news:uevrrwunJHA.5832@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... > > "Gordon" <gordonbpar***@yahoo.com> wrote in message > news:uVcexGonJHA.5124@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >> "Tom E" <T*@btinternet.com> wrote in message >> news:6uednQiiUZbapizUnZ2dnUVZ8j-WnZ2d@bt.com... >>> >>> disable ALL Firewalls and security software's on both comps. >> >> Rubbish. I've NEVER had to do that.... >> > snip > > Then it is your security software that is 'rubbish'. Unless you > specifically set security software (firewalls) to allow 'networking' then > incoming and outgoing communications are blocked. Tom E's advice is > perfectly sound. > > always had to adjust Windows Firewall, Norton or Kaspersky in one way or another to permit sharing.
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"Tom E" <T*@btinternet.com> wrote in message Well I have NOT. EVER. Windows Firewall is AUTOMATICALLY configured for LAN news:uu-dnXVHF_3LvC_UnZ2dnUVZ8q2WnZ2d@bt.com... > > "Edward W. Thompson" <thomed***@btopenworld.com> wrote in message > news:uevrrwunJHA.5832@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... >> >> "Gordon" <gordonbpar***@yahoo.com> wrote in message >> news:uVcexGonJHA.5124@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >>> "Tom E" <T*@btinternet.com> wrote in message >>> news:6uednQiiUZbapizUnZ2dnUVZ8j-WnZ2d@bt.com... >>>> >>>> disable ALL Firewalls and security software's on both comps. >>> >>> Rubbish. I've NEVER had to do that.... >>> >> snip >> Then it is your security software that is 'rubbish'. Unless you >> specifically set security software (firewalls) to allow 'networking' then >> incoming and outgoing communications are blocked. Tom E's advice is >> perfectly sound. >> >> > > thank you Ed.....I did get a little peed off with his statement. I have > always had to adjust Windows Firewall, Norton or Kaspersky in one way or > another to permit sharing. > access if you just run the New Network wizard. If you run third party firewall apps (and IMHO as a recently retired Systems Accountant you don't need to if you run behind a NATS router) then yes you do need to. Your choice. -- Asking a question? Please tell us the version of the application you are asking about, your OS, Service Pack level and the FULL contents of any error message(s)
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"Edward W. Thompson" <thomed***@btopenworld.com> wrote in message You don't need to edit the firewall settings AT ALL. The Windows Firewall is news:uevrrwunJHA.5832@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... > > "Gordon" <gordonbpar***@yahoo.com> wrote in message > news:uVcexGonJHA.5124@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >> "Tom E" <T*@btinternet.com> wrote in message >> news:6uednQiiUZbapizUnZ2dnUVZ8j-WnZ2d@bt.com... >>> >>> disable ALL Firewalls and security software's on both comps. >> >> Rubbish. I've NEVER had to do that.... >> > snip > > Then it is your security software that is 'rubbish'. Unless you > specifically set security software (firewalls) to allow 'networking' then > incoming and outgoing communications are blocked. Tom E's advice is > perfectly sound. > automatically configured to allow LAN connections. And my security is NOT rubbish, I've never been hacked in my life. Using the built-in Windows firewall behind a NATS router is perfectly adequate security. You obviously are either completely paranoid or don't know what you are talking about, or both. -- Asking a question? Please tell us the version of the application you are asking about, your OS, Service Pack level and the FULL contents of any error message(s) "mark" <m***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message Run the New Network utility on both machines.news:2A94521E-332E-4F8E-B3F8-E49B5BE7C95A@microsoft.com... >I have two computers, they both hook up to a router to go to the internet, > one is wired the other is wireless. how can I get them to see each other > on > the network so I can share files and the printer? They have the same > "workgroup" but they do not see each other. What do I need to do? You may need to re-boot. -- Asking a question? Please tell us the version of the application you are asking about, your OS, Service Pack level and the FULL contents of any error message(s) "mark" <m***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message 1. Ignore Gordon, he is full of NATS P.news:2A94521E-332E-4F8E-B3F8-E49B5BE7C95A@microsoft.com... >I have two computers, they both hook up to a router to go to the internet, > one is wired the other is wireless. how can I get them to see each other > on > the network so I can share files and the printer? They have the same > "workgroup" but they do not see each other. What do I need to do? > 2. http://support.microsoft.com:80/?kbid=318030 3. to assist IP address and pinging http://compnetworking.about.com:80/cs/windowsnetworkin1/ht/findaddrwinxp.htm "Tom E" <T*@btinternet.com> wrote in message Got your foil hat on today?news:uNadndZRVb1pzS_UnZ2dnUVZ8gKWnZ2d@bt.com... > > "mark" <m***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > news:2A94521E-332E-4F8E-B3F8-E49B5BE7C95A@microsoft.com... >>I have two computers, they both hook up to a router to go to the internet, >> one is wired the other is wireless. how can I get them to see each other >> on >> the network so I can share files and the printer? They have the same >> "workgroup" but they do not see each other. What do I need to do? >> > > 1. Ignore Gordon, he is full of NATS P. Hoist by your own petard. That KB article does NOT say "disable the firewall". And in fact the New Network wizard does what that KB says using a GUI. -- Asking a question? Please tell us the version of the application you are asking about, your OS, Service Pack level and the FULL contents of any error message(s)
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"Gordon" <gordonbpar***@yahoo.com> wrote in message back to your smoke box...chu chu..........the poster has ferked off so nowt news:uKOWtbLoJHA.1292@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... > "Tom E" <T*@btinternet.com> wrote in message > news:uNadndZRVb1pzS_UnZ2dnUVZ8gKWnZ2d@bt.com... >> >> "mark" <m***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message >> news:2A94521E-332E-4F8E-B3F8-E49B5BE7C95A@microsoft.com... >>>I have two computers, they both hook up to a router to go to the >>>internet, >>> one is wired the other is wireless. how can I get them to see each other >>> on >>> the network so I can share files and the printer? They have the same >>> "workgroup" but they do not see each other. What do I need to do? >>> >> >> 1. Ignore Gordon, he is full of NATS P. > > Got your foil hat on today? > >> 2. http://support.microsoft.com:80/?kbid=318030 > > Hoist by your own petard. That KB article does NOT say "disable the > firewall". > And in fact the New Network wizard does what that KB says using a GUI. > > -- > Asking a question? > Please tell us the version of the application you are asking about, > your OS, Service Pack level > and the FULL contents of any error message(s) > more to say Hi
If the two computers can use the Internet through the Router then you need to configure File and Printer Sharing and you would have a LAN. Make sure that the Software Firewall on each computer allows free local traffic. If you use 3rd party Firewall On, Vista/XP Native Firewall should be Off, and the active Firewall has to adjusted to your Network IP numbers on what is some time called the Trusted Zone (consult your 3rd Party Firewall instructions). Even if you switch the Firewalls Off, make sure that the Trusted Zone and exceptions are configured correctly. http://www.ezlan.net/faq.html#trusted Make sure that what you are trying to share in Vista is indeed is sharable. Some folders for security reason would not share. Vista File and Printer Sharing- http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb727037.aspx Windows XP File Sharing - http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;304040 Printer Sharing XP - http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/using/networking/expert/honeycutt_july2.mspx Windows Native Firewall setting for Sharing XP - http://support.microsoft.com/kb/875357 Windows XP patch for Sharing with Vista - http://support.microsoft.com/kb/922120 Jack (MVP-Networking). Show quoteHide quote "mark" <m***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:2A94521E-332E-4F8E-B3F8-E49B5BE7C95A@microsoft.com... >I have two computers, they both hook up to a router to go to the internet, > one is wired the other is wireless. how can I get them to see each other > on > the network so I can share files and the printer? They have the same > "workgroup" but they do not see each other. What do I need to do?
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"Jack-MVP" <j***@discussgroups.com> wrote in message stand by here comes Gordon....chuff, chuff, chuff. chuff.................news:exUQilPoJHA.5832@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... > Hi > If the two computers can use the Internet through the Router then you need > to configure File and Printer Sharing and you would have a LAN. > Make sure that the Software Firewall on each computer allows free local > traffic. If you use 3rd party Firewall On, Vista/XP Native Firewall should > be Off, and the active Firewall has to adjusted to your Network IP numbers > on what is some time called the Trusted Zone (consult your 3rd Party > Firewall instructions). > Even if you switch the Firewalls Off, make sure that the Trusted Zone and > exceptions are configured correctly. > http://www.ezlan.net/faq.html#trusted > Make sure that what you are trying to share in Vista is indeed is > sharable. Some folders for security reason would not share. > Vista File and Printer Sharing- > http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb727037.aspx > Windows XP File Sharing - > http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;304040 > Printer Sharing XP - > http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/using/networking/expert/honeycutt_july2.mspx > Windows Native Firewall setting for Sharing XP - > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/875357 > Windows XP patch for Sharing with Vista - > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/922120 > Jack (MVP-Networking). > > "mark" <m***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > news:2A94521E-332E-4F8E-B3F8-E49B5BE7C95A@microsoft.com... >>I have two computers, they both hook up to a router to go to the internet, >> one is wired the other is wireless. how can I get them to see each other >> on >> the network so I can share files and the printer? They have the same >> "workgroup" but they do not see each other. What do I need to do? > >  
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