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Wired and wireless internet together?to my desktop PC. This PC is NOT wireless enabled and I have no requirement to make it so. A label on the modem says I should use the ethernet cable "if your Computer supports it" but that never worked for me so I stuck with USB and that all seemed to be OK. PC is about 4 years old I think. Dell Dimension C521. Now: I have bought a wireless enabled laptop, so I got a wireless router from my ISP. This is not a combined modem/router; it's a separate unit that plugs into the existing modem via a supplied ethernet cable. I set it up as described, ran the installation CD on my laptop and everything worked fine. Strong signal, fast connection, everything A-OK. So far, so good. However: I still want to connect to the internet using my old PC as well. I'm not that concerned if I can't make the computers speak to each other, but I need both to be able to connect to the internet. If I leave the USB cable connected from the modem to the old PC, then the internet light on the router glows orange rather than green and I cannot connect using the laptop. If I disconnect it again, the orange light goes green and then I CAN connect using the laptop, but of course now I have lost the connection from the old PC. I need to be able to use BOTH. Maybe not simultaneously (though I would have thought that was possible) but I certainly don't want to be constantly disconnecting and reconnecting cables on my modem and/or router. I have tried leaving out the USB cable and using my ethernet cable (the original one with my modem) to connect the router directly to the old PC, but that has had no effect. But I read somewhere that maybe my ethernet port is not enabled and that I would have to change that (there's no light or anything that I can see on it, but it IS the right port on my computer because it's the only one the ethernet cable will plug into.) Summary: I want to use wireless via my laptop and WIRED via my old PC at the same time. There must be a way to do this but I can't make it work. My ISP's helpdesk guy seemed unable even to comprehend the problem. Help!! ryco said this on 5/11/2009 5:58 PM:
Show quoteHide quote > Background: I have Cable broadband, through a cable modem connected via USB I am assuming the modem will only supply one connection, USB or > to my desktop PC. This PC is NOT wireless enabled and I have no requirement > to make it so. A label on the modem says I should use the ethernet cable "if > your Computer supports it" but that never worked for me so I stuck with USB > and that all seemed to be OK. PC is about 4 years old I think. Dell > Dimension C521. > > Now: I have bought a wireless enabled laptop, so I got a wireless router > from my ISP. This is not a combined modem/router; it's a separate unit that > plugs into the existing modem via a supplied ethernet cable. I set it up as > described, ran the installation CD on my laptop and everything worked fine. > Strong signal, fast connection, everything A-OK. So far, so good. > > However: I still want to connect to the internet using my old PC as well. > I'm not that concerned if I can't make the computers speak to each other, but > I need both to be able to connect to the internet. If I leave the USB cable > connected from the modem to the old PC, then the internet light on the router > glows orange rather than green and I cannot connect using the laptop. If I > disconnect it again, the orange light goes green and then I CAN connect using > the laptop, but of course now I have lost the connection from the old PC. I > need to be able to use BOTH. Maybe not simultaneously (though I would have > thought that was possible) but I certainly don't want to be constantly > disconnecting and reconnecting cables on my modem and/or router. > > I have tried leaving out the USB cable and using my ethernet cable (the > original one with my modem) to connect the router directly to the old PC, but > that has had no effect. But I read somewhere that maybe my ethernet port is > not enabled and that I would have to change that (there's no light or > anything that I can see on it, but it IS the right port on my computer > because it's the only one the ethernet cable will plug into.) > > Summary: I want to use wireless via my laptop and WIRED via my old PC at the > same time. There must be a way to do this but I can't make it work. My > ISP's helpdesk guy seemed unable even to comprehend the problem. > > Help!! > > > > Ethernet. It been 2 years since I had that arrangement and it probably differs from vendor to vendor anyway. The router is the unit that performs the function you want. It makes multiple connections possible, in your case wireless and wired. You should plug the PC into the router directly. And it requires a straight through cable. If the colors of the 8 wires in the plastic connector are visible, both ends should be the same color order. Does not matter what colors, just the same order left to right in the 8 pins. You might need a magnifying glass. If they flipped a couple of colors, then you probably have a crossover cable. This is a special function cable and might be used to direct connect to the modem, but not a PC->router. PS, once both PC's are in the router, you will be able to think about sharing files and view network PCs. Hi
To use two computers with the same Internet connection you need the two computer to be past the Routing. If you Old computer have Ethernet too switch from the USB to the Ethernet and plug it to the Router. Otherwise you can buy a USB to Ethernet device and use it in order to plug the old computer to the Router. Example, http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16812203024 Jack (MS, MVP-Networking) Show quoteHide quote "Big_Al" <Bi***@md.com> wrote in message news:%23e74xfp0JHA.1432@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... > ryco said this on 5/11/2009 5:58 PM: >> Background: I have Cable broadband, through a cable modem connected via >> USB to my desktop PC. This PC is NOT wireless enabled and I have no >> requirement to make it so. A label on the modem says I should use the >> ethernet cable "if your Computer supports it" but that never worked for >> me so I stuck with USB and that all seemed to be OK. PC is about 4 years >> old I think. Dell Dimension C521. Now: I have bought a wireless enabled >> laptop, so I got a wireless router from my ISP. This is not a combined >> modem/router; it's a separate unit that plugs into the existing modem via >> a supplied ethernet cable. I set it up as described, ran the >> installation CD on my laptop and everything worked fine. Strong signal, >> fast connection, everything A-OK. So far, so good. >> >> However: I still want to connect to the internet using my old PC as well. >> I'm not that concerned if I can't make the computers speak to each other, >> but I need both to be able to connect to the internet. If I leave the >> USB cable connected from the modem to the old PC, then the internet light >> on the router glows orange rather than green and I cannot connect using >> the laptop. If I disconnect it again, the orange light goes green and >> then I CAN connect using the laptop, but of course now I have lost the >> connection from the old PC. I need to be able to use BOTH. Maybe not >> simultaneously (though I would have thought that was possible) but I >> certainly don't want to be constantly disconnecting and reconnecting >> cables on my modem and/or router. >> >> I have tried leaving out the USB cable and using my ethernet cable (the >> original one with my modem) to connect the router directly to the old PC, >> but that has had no effect. But I read somewhere that maybe my ethernet >> port is not enabled and that I would have to change that (there's no >> light or anything that I can see on it, but it IS the right port on my >> computer because it's the only one the ethernet cable will plug into.) >> >> Summary: I want to use wireless via my laptop and WIRED via my old PC at >> the same time. There must be a way to do this but I can't make it work. >> My ISP's helpdesk guy seemed unable even to comprehend the problem. >> >> Help!! >> >> >> >> > I am assuming the modem will only supply one connection, USB or Ethernet. > It been 2 years since I had that arrangement and it probably differs from > vendor to vendor anyway. The router is the unit that performs the > function you want. It makes multiple connections possible, in your case > wireless and wired. You should plug the PC into the router directly. > And it requires a straight through cable. If the colors of the 8 wires in > the plastic connector are visible, both ends should be the same color > order. Does not matter what colors, just the same order left to right in > the 8 pins. You might need a magnifying glass. If they flipped a couple > of colors, then you probably have a crossover cable. This is a special > function cable and might be used to direct connect to the modem, but not a > PC->router. > > PS, once both PC's are in the router, you will be able to think about > sharing files and view network PCs. "Big_Al" <Bi***@md.com> wrote in message I would think it's highly unlikely that the OP has a cross-over cable....you news:#e74xfp0JHA.1432@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... > And it requires a straight through cable. need to specifically ask for one when you purchase cables.... -- Asking a question? Please tell us the version of the application you are asking about, your OS, Service Pack level and the FULL contents of any error message(s) Gordon said this on 5/12/2009 3:16 AM:
> Me too, but I offer it as fact that there is such a thing and a simple > "Big_Al" <Bi***@md.com> wrote in message > news:#e74xfp0JHA.1432@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... > >> And it requires a straight through cable. > > I would think it's highly unlikely that the OP has a cross-over > cable....you need to specifically ask for one when you purchase cables.... > way to tell them apart. Not knowing anyones level of expertise, its better to say than not say. This is a real simple thing and no one has "caught it" yet. It is probably
due to the extremely loose use of terminology that plagues the industry so that no one really knows what anyone is saying by the words they use anymore. You have no Firewall Device. These are commonly called "routers" in the retail stores although in reality they are not really "routers",..what they really are is a cheap low-buck NAT Firewall Device,...but the stores call them "routers" so that is what you are looking for. You cannot do what you are wanting with a Cable/DSL Modem. As far as Wired -vs- Wireless,...the Wireless is not a "network",...the Wireless componenet is just a "patch cable replacement". The whole thing (big picture), the wired and the wireless together is the "network",...all of it combined. -- Show quoteHide quotePhillip Windell www.wandtv.com The views expressed, are my own and not those of my employer, or Microsoft, or anyone else associated with me, including my cats. ----------------------------------------------------- "ryco" <r***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:28B45D7D-6201-48C7-ADA0-B68956FCBB8B@microsoft.com... > Background: I have Cable broadband, through a cable modem connected via > USB > to my desktop PC. This PC is NOT wireless enabled and I have no > requirement > to make it so. A label on the modem says I should use the ethernet cable > "if > your Computer supports it" but that never worked for me so I stuck with > USB > and that all seemed to be OK. PC is about 4 years old I think. Dell > Dimension C521. > > Now: I have bought a wireless enabled laptop, so I got a wireless router > from my ISP. This is not a combined modem/router; it's a separate unit > that > plugs into the existing modem via a supplied ethernet cable. I set it up > as > described, ran the installation CD on my laptop and everything worked > fine. > Strong signal, fast connection, everything A-OK. So far, so good. > > However: I still want to connect to the internet using my old PC as well. > I'm not that concerned if I can't make the computers speak to each other, > but > I need both to be able to connect to the internet. If I leave the USB > cable > connected from the modem to the old PC, then the internet light on the > router > glows orange rather than green and I cannot connect using the laptop. If > I > disconnect it again, the orange light goes green and then I CAN connect > using > the laptop, but of course now I have lost the connection from the old PC. > I > need to be able to use BOTH. Maybe not simultaneously (though I would > have > thought that was possible) but I certainly don't want to be constantly > disconnecting and reconnecting cables on my modem and/or router. > > I have tried leaving out the USB cable and using my ethernet cable (the > original one with my modem) to connect the router directly to the old PC, > but > that has had no effect. But I read somewhere that maybe my ethernet port > is > not enabled and that I would have to change that (there's no light or > anything that I can see on it, but it IS the right port on my computer > because it's the only one the ethernet cable will plug into.) > > Summary: I want to use wireless via my laptop and WIRED via my old PC at > the > same time. There must be a way to do this but I can't make it work. My > ISP's helpdesk guy seemed unable even to comprehend the problem. > > Help!! > > > > Thanks everyone for helpful suggestions so far..
Big Al: My ethernet cable has translucent blue connectors so it's difficult to be certain about the colours of the wires inside, but they LOOK the same at both ends. If it's of any use, the cable has the following printed on it: TYPE CM 24AWG 75(degree symbol)C TIA/EIA-568-B.2 CAT.5 Patch Cable UTP NET-X None of that means anything to me except I guess the cable is rated up to 75Celsius. I have already tried connecting this cable between my PC and router, to no effect. See 2nd last para of my original post. Any idea how I would enable the ethernet port in case that's an issue? Jack: "If you Old computer have Ethernet too switch from the USB to the Ethernet and plug it to the Router." I think you're suggesting the same thing, so I'm still stuck but I will look into your suggestion about that USB to ethernet device. Thanks. Phillip: I'm afraid I'm in over my head with most of what you said. I'm not techie enough to follow it. The PC has firewall SOFTWARE, but I guess that's not the same as a firewall DEVICE. Just occurred to me: is it worth switching off the firewall software and attempting this again? But ..."You cannot do what you are wanting with a Cable/DSL Modem." ....seems pretty emphatic. You're certian about that? In which case what do I need to do? Do I need to make this PC wireless enabled? If so, is one of those plug-in USB things the best (i.e. easiest for an amateur!!) way to proceed? "ryco" <r***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message Correct,...two entirely different things.news:4DAF39A0-5980-4983-B69F-10CD36C8902C@microsoft.com... > Phillip: I'm afraid I'm in over my head with most of what you said. I'm > not techie enough to follow it. The PC has firewall SOFTWARE, but I guess > that's not the same as a firewall DEVICE. Sorry, I didn't notice that you got the wireless "router" from the ISP when I posted the first time, I need to read a little slower,...more on that device below. > Just occurred to me: is it worth It is pretty much irrelevant. Yes, it can cause you problems,...but I don't > switching off the firewall software and attempting this again? think it will apply to this context. > But ..."You cannot do what you are wanting with a Cable/DSL Modem." Emphatically, yes :-)> ...seems pretty emphatic. You're certian about that? But you have the wireless router from the ISP,...that should work,...you just have to "phyiscally" assemble the network with the devices in the correct pattern. > In which case what do I need to do? The wireless router that you got from the ISP *is* a firewall device,..use it. It must go between the "modem" and the PC's. Forget USB cable,...in this situation USB has no place in this story. The "modem" will have to use the Ethernet Cable instead of the USB,..and that cable will plug into the WAN Port on the "router". Then the wired PCs will plug into the LAN Ports on the "router" (there are typically 4 LAN ports,...the 5th is the WAN port). The wireless capable PCs will connect via the antennas on the "router" instead of via cable. From what I can see from your first post it looks like you did most of it correctly,...maybe you did not plug the wired PCs into the correct ports on the "router". [Internet] | <modem> | <wireless router>----{wireless signal}---wireless PC1 | | | PC2 PC3 PC4In my diagram the PCs 2-4 are wired PC1 is the wireless one If you know that it is cabled up correctly and still doesn't work you may need to get the ISP to help,..particularly since the device came from them. Some ISPs can get into the "router" and configure it for you as long as your cabling is correct. -- Phillip Windell www.wandtv.com The views expressed, are my own and not those of my employer, or Microsoft, or anyone else associated with me, including my cats. ----------------------------------------------------- VERY comprehensive response and an excellent diagram - thank you. I'm pretty
sure I have done what you described, except I have only PCs 1 and 2 from your diagram. The first port on my router is unnumbered. It's coloured yellow and it's where the yellow ethernet cable from my ISP connects back to the cable modem. So that's the WAN port, right? Next I have four ports numbered 1 to 4 and I plugged my OTHER ethernet cable into port 1. I plugged the other end of this into the ethernet port on my PC. It's the only port that fits, so I can't have got that wrong. From this, I see two possibilities: either the cable is faulty, or the port is disabled/dead/whatever. This latter is a possibility I came across somewhere else. Do you know anything about how I can check the status of that port, or how I could 'enable' it if necessary? I looked in the Network Connections folder but didn't find anything useful there. Its shows my local area connection as follows: LAN or high-speed internet | Connected, firewalled | USB cable modem 351000 (At the moment I have disconnected the router and am using my old USB connection) I think you've confirmed what I *NEED* to do. The question is: why won't it work? Show quoteHide quote "Phillip Windell" wrote: > "ryco" <r***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > news:4DAF39A0-5980-4983-B69F-10CD36C8902C@microsoft.com... > > Phillip: I'm afraid I'm in over my head with most of what you said. I'm > > not techie enough to follow it. The PC has firewall SOFTWARE, but I guess > > that's not the same as a firewall DEVICE. > > Correct,...two entirely different things. > Sorry, I didn't notice that you got the wireless "router" from the ISP when > I posted the first time, I need to read a little slower,...more on that > device below. > > > Just occurred to me: is it worth > > switching off the firewall software and attempting this again? > > It is pretty much irrelevant. Yes, it can cause you problems,...but I don't > think it will apply to this context. > > > > But ..."You cannot do what you are wanting with a Cable/DSL Modem." > > ...seems pretty emphatic. You're certian about that? > > Emphatically, yes :-) > But you have the wireless router from the ISP,...that should work,...you > just have to "phyiscally" assemble the network with the devices in the > correct pattern. > > > In which case what do I need to do? > > The wireless router that you got from the ISP *is* a firewall device,..use > it. > > It must go between the "modem" and the PC's. Forget USB cable,...in this > situation USB has no place in this story. The "modem" will have to use the > Ethernet Cable instead of the USB,..and that cable will plug into the WAN > Port on the "router". Then the wired PCs will plug into the LAN Ports on > the "router" (there are typically 4 LAN ports,...the 5th is the WAN port). > The wireless capable PCs will connect via the antennas on the "router" > instead of via cable. > > From what I can see from your first post it looks like you did most of it > correctly,...maybe you did not plug the wired PCs into the correct ports on > the "router". > > > [Internet] > | > <modem> > | > <wireless router>----{wireless signal}---wireless PC1 > | | | > PC2 PC3 PC4 > > In my diagram the PCs 2-4 are wired > PC1 is the wireless one > > If you know that it is cabled up correctly and still doesn't work you may > need to get the ISP to help,..particularly since the device came from them. > Some ISPs can get into the "router" and configure it for you as long as your > cabling is correct. > > -- > Phillip Windell > www.wandtv.com > > The views expressed, are my own and not those of my employer, or Microsoft, > or anyone else associated with me, including my cats. > ----------------------------------------------------- > > > Hi
You seems to be on the right track, http://www.ezlan.net/network/router.jpg Jack (MS, MVP-Networking) Show quoteHide quote "ryco" <r***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:1A650F70-6837-41C7-BCC7-EB644C6AB7C3@microsoft.com... > VERY comprehensive response and an excellent diagram - thank you. I'm > pretty > sure I have done what you described, except I have only PCs 1 and 2 from > your > diagram. > > The first port on my router is unnumbered. It's coloured yellow and it's > where the yellow ethernet cable from my ISP connects back to the cable > modem. > So that's the WAN port, right? Next I have four ports numbered 1 to 4 and > I > plugged my OTHER ethernet cable into port 1. I plugged the other end of > this > into the ethernet port on my PC. It's the only port that fits, so I can't > have got that wrong. > > From this, I see two possibilities: either the cable is faulty, or the > port > is disabled/dead/whatever. This latter is a possibility I came across > somewhere else. Do you know anything about how I can check the status of > that port, or how I could 'enable' it if necessary? I looked in the > Network > Connections folder but didn't find anything useful there. Its shows my > local > area connection as follows: > LAN or high-speed internet | Connected, firewalled | USB cable modem > 351000 > (At the moment I have disconnected the router and am using my old USB > connection) > > I think you've confirmed what I *NEED* to do. The question is: why won't > it > work? > > "Phillip Windell" wrote: > >> "ryco" <r***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message >> news:4DAF39A0-5980-4983-B69F-10CD36C8902C@microsoft.com... >> > Phillip: I'm afraid I'm in over my head with most of what you said. >> > I'm >> > not techie enough to follow it. The PC has firewall SOFTWARE, but I >> > guess >> > that's not the same as a firewall DEVICE. >> >> Correct,...two entirely different things. >> Sorry, I didn't notice that you got the wireless "router" from the ISP >> when >> I posted the first time, I need to read a little slower,...more on that >> device below. >> >> > Just occurred to me: is it worth >> > switching off the firewall software and attempting this again? >> >> It is pretty much irrelevant. Yes, it can cause you problems,...but I >> don't >> think it will apply to this context. >> >> >> > But ..."You cannot do what you are wanting with a Cable/DSL Modem." >> > ...seems pretty emphatic. You're certian about that? >> >> Emphatically, yes :-) >> But you have the wireless router from the ISP,...that should work,...you >> just have to "phyiscally" assemble the network with the devices in the >> correct pattern. >> >> > In which case what do I need to do? >> >> The wireless router that you got from the ISP *is* a firewall >> device,..use >> it. >> >> It must go between the "modem" and the PC's. Forget USB cable,...in this >> situation USB has no place in this story. The "modem" will have to use >> the >> Ethernet Cable instead of the USB,..and that cable will plug into the WAN >> Port on the "router". Then the wired PCs will plug into the LAN Ports >> on >> the "router" (there are typically 4 LAN ports,...the 5th is the WAN >> port). >> The wireless capable PCs will connect via the antennas on the "router" >> instead of via cable. >> >> From what I can see from your first post it looks like you did most of it >> correctly,...maybe you did not plug the wired PCs into the correct ports >> on >> the "router". >> >> >> [Internet] >> | >> <modem> >> | >> <wireless router>----{wireless signal}---wireless PC1 >> | | | >> PC2 PC3 PC4 >> >> In my diagram the PCs 2-4 are wired >> PC1 is the wireless one >> >> If you know that it is cabled up correctly and still doesn't work you may >> need to get the ISP to help,..particularly since the device came from >> them. >> Some ISPs can get into the "router" and configure it for you as long as >> your >> cabling is correct. >> >> -- >> Phillip Windell >> www.wandtv.com >> >> The views expressed, are my own and not those of my employer, or >> Microsoft, >> or anyone else associated with me, including my cats. >> ----------------------------------------------------- >> >> >> "ryco" <r***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message Correctnews:1A650F70-6837-41C7-BCC7-EB644C6AB7C3@microsoft.com... > VERY comprehensive response and an excellent diagram - thank you. I'm > pretty > sure I have done what you described, except I have only PCs 1 and 2 from > your > diagram. > > The first port on my router is unnumbered. It's coloured yellow and it's > where the yellow ethernet cable from my ISP connects back to the cable > modem. > So that's the WAN port, right? > Next I have four ports numbered 1 to 4 and I Correct> plugged my OTHER ethernet cable into port 1. I plugged the other end of > this > into the ethernet port on my PC. It's the only port that fits, so I can't > have got that wrong. > From this, I see two possibilities: either the cable is faulty, or the Try a new cable. Make sure the one you are using isn't a cross-over > port > is disabled/dead/whatever. This latter is a possibility I came across > somewhere else. Do you know anything about how I can check the status of > that port, or how I could 'enable' it if necessary? I looked in the > Network > Connections folder but didn't find anything useful there. Its shows my > local > area connection as follows: cable,...although some devices would compensate for that. Beyond that call the ISP. The box came from them,...they most likely can get into the box if you leave it hooked up,...they can check the configuration on the box. There is nothing I can do for you there,...I can not touch it, see it, smell it, etc. -- Phillip Windell www.wandtv.com The views expressed, are my own and not those of my employer, or Microsoft, or anyone else associated with me, including my cats. ----------------------------------------------------- PROBLEM SOLVED!
Turns out it was my ethernet controller all along. I borrowed a different cable from work and when that had no effect I was convinced the only other possibility was a problem with the PC (because the responses/diagrams from Phillip and Jack indicated I wasn't making any basic errors in connections) I eventually figured out how to get to System Properties > Device Manager and found the error staring me in the face. No idea WHY this ethernet controller wasn't working, but it must have been like that all along, which would explain why only the USB cable would work with the modem, prior to this whole wireless saga. Anyway, I went to the Dell website, downloaded the required drivers, rebooted and hey presto everything worked. I think I've learned more about networking in the past four or five days than I would have thought possible. Thank you to everyone who assisted me with this. I really do appreciate it. Pat. Show quoteHide quote "Phillip Windell" wrote: > "ryco" <r***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > news:1A650F70-6837-41C7-BCC7-EB644C6AB7C3@microsoft.com... > > VERY comprehensive response and an excellent diagram - thank you. I'm > > pretty > > sure I have done what you described, except I have only PCs 1 and 2 from > > your > > diagram. > > > > The first port on my router is unnumbered. It's coloured yellow and it's > > where the yellow ethernet cable from my ISP connects back to the cable > > modem. > > So that's the WAN port, right? > > Correct > > > Next I have four ports numbered 1 to 4 and I > > plugged my OTHER ethernet cable into port 1. I plugged the other end of > > this > > into the ethernet port on my PC. It's the only port that fits, so I can't > > have got that wrong. > > Correct > > > From this, I see two possibilities: either the cable is faulty, or the > > port > > is disabled/dead/whatever. This latter is a possibility I came across > > somewhere else. Do you know anything about how I can check the status of > > that port, or how I could 'enable' it if necessary? I looked in the > > Network > > Connections folder but didn't find anything useful there. Its shows my > > local > > area connection as follows: > > Try a new cable. Make sure the one you are using isn't a cross-over > cable,...although some devices would compensate for that. > > Beyond that call the ISP. The box came from them,...they most likely can > get into the box if you leave it hooked up,...they can check the > configuration on the box. There is nothing I can do for you there,...I can > not touch it, see it, smell it, etc. > > > -- > Phillip Windell > www.wandtv.com > > The views expressed, are my own and not those of my employer, or Microsoft, > or anyone else associated with me, including my cats. > ----------------------------------------------------- > > > Very good!
Glad you hear you got it working. -- Show quoteHide quotePhillip Windell The views expressed, are my own and not those of my employer, or Microsoft, or anyone else associated with me, including my cats. ----------------------------------------------------- "ryco" <r***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:A9917D36-F8FE-4C69-BC41-CBFC042B4B76@microsoft.com... > PROBLEM SOLVED! > > Turns out it was my ethernet controller all along. I borrowed a different > cable from work and when that had no effect I was convinced the only other > possibility was a problem with the PC (because the responses/diagrams from > Phillip and Jack indicated I wasn't making any basic errors in > connections) > > I eventually figured out how to get to System Properties > Device Manager > and found the error staring me in the face. No idea WHY this ethernet > controller wasn't working, but it must have been like that all along, > which > would explain why only the USB cable would work with the modem, prior to > this > whole wireless saga. > > Anyway, I went to the Dell website, downloaded the required drivers, > rebooted and hey presto everything worked. > > I think I've learned more about networking in the past four or five days > than I would have thought possible. Thank you to everyone who assisted me > with this. I really do appreciate it. > > Pat. > > > "Phillip Windell" wrote: > >> "ryco" <r***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message >> news:1A650F70-6837-41C7-BCC7-EB644C6AB7C3@microsoft.com... >> > VERY comprehensive response and an excellent diagram - thank you. I'm >> > pretty >> > sure I have done what you described, except I have only PCs 1 and 2 >> > from >> > your >> > diagram. >> > >> > The first port on my router is unnumbered. It's coloured yellow and >> > it's >> > where the yellow ethernet cable from my ISP connects back to the cable >> > modem. >> > So that's the WAN port, right? >> >> Correct >> >> > Next I have four ports numbered 1 to 4 and I >> > plugged my OTHER ethernet cable into port 1. I plugged the other end >> > of >> > this >> > into the ethernet port on my PC. It's the only port that fits, so I >> > can't >> > have got that wrong. >> >> Correct >> >> > From this, I see two possibilities: either the cable is faulty, or the >> > port >> > is disabled/dead/whatever. This latter is a possibility I came across >> > somewhere else. Do you know anything about how I can check the status >> > of >> > that port, or how I could 'enable' it if necessary? I looked in the >> > Network >> > Connections folder but didn't find anything useful there. Its shows my >> > local >> > area connection as follows: >> >> Try a new cable. Make sure the one you are using isn't a cross-over >> cable,...although some devices would compensate for that. >> >> Beyond that call the ISP. The box came from them,...they most likely can >> get into the box if you leave it hooked up,...they can check the >> configuration on the box. There is nothing I can do for you there,...I >> can >> not touch it, see it, smell it, etc. >> >> >> -- >> Phillip Windell >> www.wandtv.com >> >> The views expressed, are my own and not those of my employer, or >> Microsoft, >> or anyone else associated with me, including my cats. >> ----------------------------------------------------- >> >> >>  
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