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Re: Need a way to see employeed surfing habits"the wharf rat" <w***@panix.com> wrote in message This isn't the likely scenario. Here we probably have 25 happily-working news:gud6k5$3t0$1@reader1.panix.com... > In article <4f1k0514641vn5b554b0a7t895tf0i4***@4ax.com>, > IMHO you've (all) got this sort of backwards. Nobody does stuff > like this just because they want to snoop, or because they want you to > KNOW > you're being watched. The only time anyone goes through all this trouble > is because they feel that it's what they need to do to ensure information > security. That's a management decision and a management responsibilty, > and as an employee it's both rude and counterproductive to sit there and > mutter about fascists. You knew what the deal was when you signed up, > right? > employees who will arrive at work one day to have their boss announce that from that day onwards they will be spied upon. I would doubt very much if a single one of them were told at their recruitment interviews 'Oh, and by the way exactly one year into your employment we'll start spying on your surfing habits. I hope you agree? If so, sign here.' No, Mr Boss will come out of his secluded little office one day and announce to all and sundry that that is just the way it is and that if they don't like it then the door is thatta way <----- with perhaps a few strategically positioned newspapers around the office headlining the world's financial crisis to help Mr Joe / Miss Jill "heavily in credit card debt" Worker to make their decisions. > It's like going to a nudist camp (excuse me I mean a clothes free I think it's more like turning up at a standard holiday camp and the camp > resort :-). You KNOW there's going to be naked people and you KNOW you're > going to have to undress so wouldn't it be pretty silly to voluntarily > sign > up and then complain that naked guys are looking at your legs? > leader suddenly announcing that the camp rules have changed; that in the interests of greater transparency and to ensure that attendees can have nothing to hide, from now on no clothes will be permitted - all except for the camp leader who somehow still manages to remains fully clothed. In article <#paA6yA1JHA.3***@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl>,
Email_Addr***@SomewhereOrOther.com says... > This isn't the likely scenario. Here we probably have 25 happily-working You are able to leave, if you don't agree.> employees who will arrive at work one day to have their boss announce that > from that day onwards they will be spied upon. I would doubt very much if a > single one of them were told at their recruitment interviews > > 'Oh, and by the way exactly one year into your employment we'll start > spying on your surfing habits. I hope you agree? If so, sign here.' > > No, Mr Boss will come out of his secluded little office one day and announce > to all and sundry that that is just the way it is and that if they don't > like it then the door is thatta way > In the USA, you have no right to privacy when using Company Phones or Networks, so, even without a written policy they can monitor all connections. If you've got nothing to hide then you've got no problems. If you want to work for a company that does everything the way you want it, allows all the abuse of company resources, costs the company money for your personal freedom, then start your own company and watch it fail. -- - Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum. - Calling an illegal alien an "undocumented worker" is like calling a drug dealer an "unlicensed pharmacist" spam999free@rrohio.com (remove 999 for proper email address) On Wed, 13 May 2009 17:11:55 -0400, Leythos <spam999free@rrohio.com>
wrote: >If you want to work for a company that does everything the way you want The combined experience of the most successful companies in the world>it, allows all the abuse of company resources, costs the company money >for your personal freedom, then start your own company and watch it >fail. directly contradicts your uneducated assumption about people and how to get maximum productivity from them. In article <iusm05lht7vr5h2ehrd96paidbo3e62***@4ax.com>,
nomailple***@example.com says... > And what companies would that be?> On Wed, 13 May 2009 17:11:55 -0400, Leythos <spam999free@rrohio.com> > wrote: > > >If you want to work for a company that does everything the way you want > >it, allows all the abuse of company resources, costs the company money > >for your personal freedom, then start your own company and watch it > >fail. > > The combined experience of the most successful companies in the world > directly contradicts your uneducated assumption about people and how > to get maximum productivity from them. I have yet to find a large company that doesn't implement some policy or filtering to curb abuses by employees. -- - Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum. - Calling an illegal alien an "undocumented worker" is like calling a drug dealer an "unlicensed pharmacist" spam999free@rrohio.com (remove 999 for proper email address)  |
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