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Author
15 May 2009 1:06 PM
Tony
I have two teenage children that think its ok to connect to other
routers in the community once I turn ours off.. Meaning they are
staying up late surfing Myspace and FaceBook and chatting when they
are supposed to be in bed!.. lol   I am wondering if there is a way I
can limit their access to just my router so when it shuts down they
can not longer connect to others.

P.S.  Ya gotta love teenagers!

Thanks,,

Tony

Author
15 May 2009 5:41 PM
Bob Lin (MS-MVP)
I think using a static IP address will do it. Make sure they don't have
administrator rights. good luck!

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"Tony" <tony***@gmail.com> wrote in message
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>I have two teenage children that think its ok to connect to other
> routers in the community once I turn ours off.. Meaning they are
> staying up late surfing Myspace and FaceBook and chatting when they
> are supposed to be in bed!.. lol   I am wondering if there is a way I
> can limit their access to just my router so when it shuts down they
> can not longer connect to others.
>
> P.S.  Ya gotta love teenagers!
>
> Thanks,,
>
> Tony
Author
17 May 2009 1:15 PM
Dave
'maybe'... most home networks probably use the default ip range so if there
were unsecured networks around they may still be able to use them as long as
they don't have an ip conflict with another machine already on the network.
if you pick an odd range for your own internal network and maybe change the
router gateway address for good measure that would slow them down a bit
more... unless they have a cooperative friend who sets theirs up the same
way.  a better measure would be to have the machines in a family room, not
in their bedrooms... that would provide you with better parental supervision
of what they surf also!


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"Bob Lin (MS-MVP)" <nore***@chicagotech.net> wrote in message
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>I think using a static IP address will do it. Make sure they don't have
>administrator rights. good luck!
>
> --
> Bob Lin, MS-MVP, MCSE & CNE
> Networking, Internet, Routing, VPN Troubleshooting on
> http://www.ChicagoTech.net
> How to Setup Windows, Network, VPN & Remote Access on
> http://www.HowToNetworking.com
>
>
> "Tony" <tony***@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:37ff4f27-619a-499c-b18c-8c297dcacdb7@e23g2000vbe.googlegroups.com...
>>I have two teenage children that think its ok to connect to other
>> routers in the community once I turn ours off.. Meaning they are
>> staying up late surfing Myspace and FaceBook and chatting when they
>> are supposed to be in bed!.. lol   I am wondering if there is a way I
>> can limit their access to just my router so when it shuts down they
>> can not longer connect to others.
>>
>> P.S.  Ya gotta love teenagers!
>>
>> Thanks,,
>>
>> Tony
>
Author
17 May 2009 1:09 PM
Lanwench [MVP - Exchange]
Tony <tony***@gmail.com> wrote:
> I have two teenage children that think its ok to connect to other
> routers in the community once I turn ours off.. Meaning they are
> staying up late surfing Myspace and FaceBook and chatting when they
> are supposed to be in bed!.. lol   I am wondering if there is a way I
> can limit their access to just my router so when it shuts down they
> can not longer connect to others.
>
> P.S.  Ya gotta love teenagers!
>
> Thanks,,
>
> Tony

Not that I know of, and as a wise man said, "There are seldom good
technological solutions to behavioral problems." Take the computers away if
they aren't adhering to the house rules. A computer is not a birthright, nor
is internet access. Keep the computers in the living room or any other
shared/communal space in the house.
Author
18 May 2009 6:23 PM
Azure
What OS are they using on their computers?  Vista?
If so take a look here:
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windows-vista/features/parental-controls.aspx

Vista has parenting controls which allows the parent to set times the
computer can be used.  It's password protected too.


Tony wrote:
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> I have two teenage children that think its ok to connect to other
> routers in the community once I turn ours off.. Meaning they are
> staying up late surfing Myspace and FaceBook and chatting when they
> are supposed to be in bed!.. lol   I am wondering if there is a way I
> can limit their access to just my router so when it shuts down they
> can not longer connect to others.
>
> P.S.  Ya gotta love teenagers!
>
> Thanks,,
>
> Tony
Author
18 May 2009 7:08 PM
Big_Al
Tony said this on 5/15/2009 9:06 AM:
> I have two teenage children that think its ok to connect to other
> routers in the community once I turn ours off.. Meaning they are
> staying up late surfing Myspace and FaceBook and chatting when they
> are supposed to be in bed!.. lol   I am wondering if there is a way I
> can limit their access to just my router so when it shuts down they
> can not longer connect to others.
>
> P.S.  Ya gotta love teenagers!
>
> Thanks,,
>
> Tony
Depending on your relationship with others in the area, you might get
them to turn on wep security on their routers.  Hell, you might do it
for them.  And it might be explained as a risk to them more than a aid
to you.
Author
18 May 2009 7:59 PM
Pavel A.
Tony wrote:
> I have two teenage children that think its ok to connect to other
> routers in the community once I turn ours off.. Meaning they are
> staying up late surfing Myspace and FaceBook and chatting when they
> are supposed to be in bed!.. lol   I am wondering if there is a way I
> can limit their access to just my router so when it shuts down they
> can not longer connect to others.


Well perhaps this is another selling point to wired network,
such as power line (a.k.a. HomePNA).
Then you are in full control. Turn the switch off, done.
But smart kids can get USB wi-fi dongles ... :)


-- pa
Author
19 May 2009 1:55 PM
Tony
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On May 18, 3:59 pm, "Pavel A." <pave***@NOfastmailNO.fm> wrote:
> Tony wrote:
> > I have two teenage children that think its ok to connect to other
> > routers in the community once I turn ours off.. Meaning they are
> > staying up late surfing Myspace and FaceBook and chatting when they
> > are supposed to be in bed!.. lol   I am wondering if there is a way I
> > can limit their access to just my router so when it shuts down they
> > can not longer connect to others.
>
> Well perhaps this is another selling point to wired network,
> such as power line (a.k.a. HomePNA).
> Then you are in full control. Turn the switch off, done.
> But smart kids can get USB wi-fi dongles ... :)
>
> -- pa

thanks to all for your suggestions,, and yes I agree they should be
responsible enough to do the right thing,, thats whats so
frustrating,,,,
I
Author
19 May 2009 2:34 PM
Jack-MVP
Hi
There are different tricks to lock down usage of other Access Points.
However the functionality of these tricks dependent on the knowledge of the
users.
I.e., a knowledgeable user can find ways to go around the "Blocks".
In case of teenagers it can turn even worse.  If they do not know what to do
to free their system, they probably would turn to  "geeks" friends for
advise, and then they can end up (might be unbeknown to them) getting
involved in illegal activities.
Jack (MS, MVP-Networking)


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"Tony" <tony***@gmail.com> wrote in message
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On May 18, 3:59 pm, "Pavel A." <pave***@NOfastmailNO.fm> wrote:
> Tony wrote:
> > I have two teenage children that think its ok to connect to other
> > routers in the community once I turn ours off.. Meaning they are
> > staying up late surfing Myspace and FaceBook and chatting when they
> > are supposed to be in bed!.. lol I am wondering if there is a way I
> > can limit their access to just my router so when it shuts down they
> > can not longer connect to others.
>
> Well perhaps this is another selling point to wired network,
> such as power line (a.k.a. HomePNA).
> Then you are in full control. Turn the switch off, done.
> But smart kids can get USB wi-fi dongles ... :)
>
> -- pa

thanks to all for your suggestions,, and yes I agree they should be
responsible enough to do the right thing,, thats whats so
frustrating,,,,
I
Author
20 May 2009 12:49 AM
Lanwench [MVP - Exchange]
Tony <tony***@gmail.com> wrote:
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> On May 18, 3:59 pm, "Pavel A." <pave***@NOfastmailNO.fm> wrote:
>> Tony wrote:
>>> I have two teenage children that think its ok to connect to other
>>> routers in the community once I turn ours off.. Meaning they are
>>> staying up late surfing Myspace and FaceBook and chatting when they
>>> are supposed to be in bed!.. lol I am wondering if there is a way I
>>> can limit their access to just my router so when it shuts down they
>>> can not longer connect to others.
>>
>> Well perhaps this is another selling point to wired network,
>> such as power line (a.k.a. HomePNA).
>> Then you are in full control. Turn the switch off, done.
>> But smart kids can get USB wi-fi dongles ... :)
>>
>> -- pa
>
> thanks to all for your suggestions,, and yes I agree they should be
> responsible enough to do the right thing,, thats whats so
> frustrating,,,,
> I

What would  you do if they were driving your car without your permission?

This is not a technological problem.
Author
20 May 2009 2:18 PM
Tony
On May 19, 8:49 pm, "Lanwench [MVP - Exchange]"
<lanwe***@heybuddy.donotsendme.unsolicitedmailatyahoo.com> wrote:
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> Tony <tony***@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On May 18, 3:59 pm, "Pavel A." <pave***@NOfastmailNO.fm> wrote:
> >> Tony wrote:
> >>> I have two teenage children that think its ok to connect to other
> >>> routers in the community once I turn ours off.. Meaning they are
> >>> staying up late surfing Myspace and FaceBook and chatting when they
> >>> are supposed to be in bed!.. lol I am wondering if there is a way I
> >>> can limit their access to just my router so when it shuts down they
> >>> can not longer connect to others.
>
> >> Well perhaps this is another selling point to wired network,
> >> such as power line (a.k.a. HomePNA).
> >> Then you are in full control. Turn the switch off, done.
> >> But smart kids can get USB wi-fi dongles ... :)
>
> >> -- pa
>
> > thanks to all for your suggestions,, and yes I agree they should be
> > responsible enough to do the right thing,, thats whats so
> > frustrating,,,,
> > I
>
> What would  you do if they were driving your car without your permission?
>
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Lanwench,
I do not fear them killing themselves sitting in their bed as opposed
to driving without permission.

But I see your level of sarcasm and raise to a level of my own.

T
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20 May 2009 2:50 PM
Lanwench [MVP - Exchange]
Tony <tony***@gmail.com> wrote:
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> On May 19, 8:49 pm, "Lanwench [MVP - Exchange]"
> <lanwe***@heybuddy.donotsendme.unsolicitedmailatyahoo.com> wrote:
>> Tony <tony***@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On May 18, 3:59 pm, "Pavel A." <pave***@NOfastmailNO.fm> wrote:
>>>> Tony wrote:
>>>>> I have two teenage children that think its ok to connect to other
>>>>> routers in the community once I turn ours off.. Meaning they are
>>>>> staying up late surfing Myspace and FaceBook and chatting when
>>>>> they are supposed to be in bed!.. lol I am wondering if there is
>>>>> a way I can limit their access to just my router so when it shuts
>>>>> down they can not longer connect to others.
>>
>>>> Well perhaps this is another selling point to wired network,
>>>> such as power line (a.k.a. HomePNA).
>>>> Then you are in full control. Turn the switch off, done.
>>>> But smart kids can get USB wi-fi dongles ... :)
>>
>>>> -- pa
>>
>>> thanks to all for your suggestions,, and yes I agree they should be
>>> responsible enough to do the right thing,, thats whats so
>>> frustrating,,,,
>>> I
>>
>> What would you do if they were driving your car without your
>> permission?
>>
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> Lanwench,
> I do not fear them killing themselves sitting in their bed as opposed
> to driving without permission.
>
> But I see your level of sarcasm and raise to a level of my own.
>
> T

Rules is rules and your analogy is flawed. I'm sure a parent would be less
mad if their 16-year-old stayed up using Facebook, IM'ing, and surfing for
____ all night than if the same 16-year-old took the parental car without
permission and drove (safely and legally) to the mall. However, that doesn't
mean it's something you want them doing - or you wouldn't have posted in the
first place. Don't expect technology to handle this sort of thing. Your kids
will always be able to outsmart you in this arena....that's what kids do.
This is a losing battle unless you take the <item> away when they don't
follow the rules.
Author
19 May 2009 3:24 PM
Peter Foldes
Tony

There are many ways of doing this. But and a big BUT is that if I take my kids as an
example then they will be around this lockout as fast as I put it in place. If I
consider my kids as average teenagers then they all (teens and smaller kids )are
able to do it also.It is a waste of time and nothing is more effective for this
issue then being a parent

--
Peter

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"Tony" <tony***@gmail.com> wrote in message
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>I have two teenage children that think its ok to connect to other
> routers in the community once I turn ours off.. Meaning they are
> staying up late surfing Myspace and FaceBook and chatting when they
> are supposed to be in bed!.. lol   I am wondering if there is a way I
> can limit their access to just my router so when it shuts down they
> can not longer connect to others.
>
> P.S.  Ya gotta love teenagers!
>
> Thanks,,
>
> Tony
Author
20 May 2009 12:50 AM
Lanwench [MVP - Exchange]
Peter Foldes <ok***@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Tony
>
> There are many ways of doing this. But and a big BUT is that if I
> take my kids as an example then they will be around this lockout as
> fast as I put it in place. If I consider my kids as average teenagers
> then they all (teens and smaller kids )are able to do it also.It is a
> waste of time and nothing is more effective for this issue then being
> a parent

Yes. The way to handle it is to remove the computer from said teenager's
hands.
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> "Tony" <tony***@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:37ff4f27-619a-499c-b18c-8c297dcacdb7@e23g2000vbe.googlegroups.com...
>> I have two teenage children that think its ok to connect to other
>> routers in the community once I turn ours off.. Meaning they are
>> staying up late surfing Myspace and FaceBook and chatting when they
>> are supposed to be in bed!.. lol   I am wondering if there is a way I
>> can limit their access to just my router so when it shuts down they
>> can not longer connect to others.
>>
>> P.S.  Ya gotta love teenagers!
>>
>> Thanks,,
>>
>> Tony