"Ripper" <ripper@nospam.net> wrote in message
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>I have 2 desktops, 1 Vista Biz, 1 XP Pro and 3 laptops, 2 Vista Home
>Premium, 1 XP Pro. All have latest service packs and updates. All connected
>(laptops wirelessly) all working and seeing each other (for months) - until
>today at about 3 pm. All of sudden the two XP machines can't find MSHOME.
>
> "MSHOME is not accessible. You might not have permissions to use this
> network resource. Contact the admin of this server to find out if you have
> access permissions. The network path was not found."
>
> The XP laptop has 2 mapped drives to directories on the XP desktop and 1
> to the Vista Biz machine. One of the mapped drives continued to work even
> after I got the error message, but now it doesn't work. All machines have
> ZoneAlarm Free; I shut it down on the two XP machines with no change.
> Rebooted everything several times. I can log into the router from the
> suspect machines and all machines can ping each other, but that pesky
> MSHOME just won't show on the 2 XP machines. I'm scanning both with AVG
> presently but it's just finding cookies. I'm not sure what to check for
> because I know I have the connection and all the machines can access the
> internet too. I reran the network setup wizard again on the suspect
> machines with no change. Please help!
>
> Rip
>

> Hi
> Keep running the Network wizard when there is malfunction does not
> make things no better.
> Maybe this can Help, Make sure that the Software Firewall on each
> computer allows free local traffic. If you use 3rd party Firewall On,
> Vista/XP Native Firewall should be Off, and the active Firewall has
> to adjusted to your Network IP numbers on what is some time called
> the Trusted Zone (consult your 3rd Party Firewall instructions.
> General example, http://www.ezlan.net/faq#trusted
> Vista File and Printer Sharing-
> http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb727037.aspx
> Windows XP File Sharing -
> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;304040
> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;304040
> Printer Sharing XP -
> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/using/networking/expert/honeycutt_july2.mspx
> Windows Native Firewall setting for Sharing XP -
> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/875357
> Windows XP patch for Sharing with Vista (Not need for XP-SP3)  -
> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/922120
> Note: Every thing need to be checked, thinking that because it worked
> before, or and because One did not do any thing means that there is No
> reason to check all the settings is a misleading approach.
> Jack (MVP-Networking).
>
>
> "Ripper" <ripper@nospam.net> wrote in message
> news:uG5Bf6x4JHA.5048@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> I have 2 desktops, 1 Vista Biz, 1 XP Pro and 3 laptops, 2 Vista Home
>> Premium, 1 XP Pro. All have latest service packs and updates. All
>> connected (laptops wirelessly) all working and seeing each other
>> (for months) - until today at about 3 pm. All of sudden the two XP
>> machines can't find MSHOME. "MSHOME is not accessible. You might not have
>> permissions to use this
>> network resource. Contact the admin of this server to find out if
>> you have access permissions. The network path was not found."
>>
>> The XP laptop has 2 mapped drives to directories on the XP desktop
>> and 1 to the Vista Biz machine. One of the mapped drives continued
>> to work even after I got the error message, but now it doesn't work.
>> All machines have ZoneAlarm Free; I shut it down on the two XP
>> machines with no change. Rebooted everything several times. I can
>> log into the router from the suspect machines and all machines can
>> ping each other, but that pesky MSHOME just won't show on the 2 XP
>> machines. I'm scanning both with AVG presently but it's just finding
>> cookies. I'm not sure what to check for because I know I have the
>> connection and all the machines can access the internet too. I reran
>> the network setup wizard again on the suspect machines with no
>> change. Please help! Rip

"Pete Zahut" <dont@bother> wrote in message
news:85mdnYM4WMKpsLTXnZ2dnUVZ8qCdnZ2d@bt.com...
> Jack,
>
> I have exactly the same problem as the OP (or very similar, anyway) and
> have turned *all* firewalls off for testing purposes without success, so
> I'd say it's not firewall related in my case.
>
> I have one desktop and two laptops (let's call them Homer, Bart and Lisa),
> all running XP Pro SP3, all wired ethernet connections and all updated.
> All can access the internet through the router and all of them can (or
> could) see each other/transfer files etc., on the workgroup WORKGROUP.
>
> Now, for whatever reason, Homer (the desktop) cannot be seen by the other
> two, nor can it see them. More puzzling, when I look in My Network Places
> on Homer and click on View Workgroup Computers, it doesn't even list
> itself in there, which it normally should do. I'm actually
> posting/browsing from Homer now, proving that I've got access to the
> outside world but I can't get to my LAN from here.
>
> Any further ideas?
>
> TIA,
>
> Pete
>
> Jack-MVP wrote:
>> Hi
>> Keep running the Network wizard when there is malfunction does not
>> make things no better.
>> Maybe this can Help, Make sure that the Software Firewall on each
>> computer allows free local traffic. If you use 3rd party Firewall On,
>> Vista/XP Native Firewall should be Off, and the active Firewall has
>> to adjusted to your Network IP numbers on what is some time called
>> the Trusted Zone (consult your 3rd Party Firewall instructions.
>> General example, http://www.ezlan.net/faq#trusted
>> Vista File and Printer Sharing-
>> http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb727037.aspx
>> Windows XP File Sharing -
>> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;304040
>> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;304040
>> Printer Sharing XP -
>> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/using/networking/expert/honeycutt_july2.mspx
>> Windows Native Firewall setting for Sharing XP -
>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/875357
>> Windows XP patch for Sharing with Vista (Not need for XP-SP3)  -
>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/922120
>> Note: Every thing need to be checked, thinking that because it worked
>> before, or and because One did not do any thing means that there is No
>> reason to check all the settings is a misleading approach.
>> Jack (MVP-Networking).
>>
>>
>> "Ripper" <ripper@nospam.net> wrote in message
>> news:uG5Bf6x4JHA.5048@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>> I have 2 desktops, 1 Vista Biz, 1 XP Pro and 3 laptops, 2 Vista Home
>>> Premium, 1 XP Pro. All have latest service packs and updates. All
>>> connected (laptops wirelessly) all working and seeing each other
>>> (for months) - until today at about 3 pm. All of sudden the two XP
>>> machines can't find MSHOME. "MSHOME is not accessible. You might not
>>> have permissions to use this
>>> network resource. Contact the admin of this server to find out if
>>> you have access permissions. The network path was not found."
>>>
>>> The XP laptop has 2 mapped drives to directories on the XP desktop
>>> and 1 to the Vista Biz machine. One of the mapped drives continued
>>> to work even after I got the error message, but now it doesn't work.
>>> All machines have ZoneAlarm Free; I shut it down on the two XP
>>> machines with no change. Rebooted everything several times. I can
>>> log into the router from the suspect machines and all machines can
>>> ping each other, but that pesky MSHOME just won't show on the 2 XP
>>> machines. I'm scanning both with AVG presently but it's just finding
>>> cookies. I'm not sure what to check for because I know I have the
>>> connection and all the machines can access the internet too. I reran
>>> the network setup wizard again on the suspect machines with no
>>> change. Please help! Rip
>
>

> NetworkPlaces does not "prove" nor does it "disprove" networkability.
>
> You can connect to any machine from a command prompt or the "Run"
> line by doing
> \\homer
> or
> \\bart
> or
> \\lisa
> (the workgroup name does *not* even have to match)
>
> NetworkPlaces is just a "display" of the contents of the workgroup's
> Master Browse List.  Like Highlander,...there can be only one,...and
> the machine that possesses it must be running.  The machine that gets
> used for this is "decided" among the machines by having a "Browser
> Election" and the winner is the one that holds the Browse List.  If
> you keep turing your machines on and off this will always be in
> turmoil.  If "winner" machine is not running or gets blocked by
> running a firewall on it then all the machines can get into an
> "argument" over who is the real Master Browser and therefore "argue"
> about which browse List is the *real* browse list.  This obviously
> causes inconsistant "views" in NetworkPlaces from different machines.
> Microsoft have been trying for years to eliminate the whole use of
> NetworkPlaces due to problems like this,...but unfortunately they
> have not been able to *ween* people off of it.  I have been working
> where I am for 10 years (since NT40 domains) and my system of about
> 100 machines has never in ten years consistantly showed all the
> machine in NetworkPlaces, and on top of that has not consistantly
> showed the same machine everytime.  We just simply don't use it.
>
> On each of your machines place a Shortcut for the other two machine
> into the Desktop Folder within the All Users Profile and they will
> show no matter who logges into the machine.  To create a shortcut
> open Windows Explorer and type \\machinename in the Address Bar. When
> it loads drag and drop the icon in the Address Bar to a conveinent
> place. Once you have collected Shortcuts for each machine then copy
> them where the need to be.
> Here is some information on the whole Network Browsing mechanism:
>
> 191611 - Symptoms of Multihomed Browsers
> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;191611
> (Even a simple PC with a VPN connection to somewhere else is
> considered MulitHomed)
>
> 188305 - Troubleshooting the Microsoft Computer Browser Service
> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;188305
>
>
>
> "Pete Zahut" <dont@bother> wrote in message
> news:85mdnYM4WMKpsLTXnZ2dnUVZ8qCdnZ2d@bt.com...
>> Jack,
>>
>> I have exactly the same problem as the OP (or very similar, anyway)
>> and have turned *all* firewalls off for testing purposes without
>> success, so I'd say it's not firewall related in my case.
>>
>> I have one desktop and two laptops (let's call them Homer, Bart and
>> Lisa), all running XP Pro SP3, all wired ethernet connections and
>> all updated. All can access the internet through the router and all
>> of them can (or could) see each other/transfer files etc., on the
>> workgroup WORKGROUP. Now, for whatever reason, Homer (the desktop) cannot
>> be seen by the
>> other two, nor can it see them. More puzzling, when I look in My
>> Network Places on Homer and click on View Workgroup Computers, it
>> doesn't even list itself in there, which it normally should do. I'm
>> actually posting/browsing from Homer now, proving that I've got
>> access to the outside world but I can't get to my LAN from here.
>>
>> Any further ideas?
>>
>> TIA,
>>
>> Pete
>>
>> Jack-MVP wrote:
>>> Hi
>>> Keep running the Network wizard when there is malfunction does not
>>> make things no better.
>>> Maybe this can Help, Make sure that the Software Firewall on each
>>> computer allows free local traffic. If you use 3rd party Firewall
>>> On, Vista/XP Native Firewall should be Off, and the active Firewall
>>> has to adjusted to your Network IP numbers on what is some time
>>> called the Trusted Zone (consult your 3rd Party Firewall
>>> instructions. General example, http://www.ezlan.net/faq#trusted
>>> Vista File and Printer Sharing-
>>> http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb727037.aspx
>>> Windows XP File Sharing -
>>> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;304040
>>> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;304040
>>> Printer Sharing XP -
>>> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/using/networking/expert/honeycutt_july2.mspx
>>> Windows Native Firewall setting for Sharing XP -
>>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/875357
>>> Windows XP patch for Sharing with Vista (Not need for XP-SP3)  -
>>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/922120
>>> Note: Every thing need to be checked, thinking that because it
>>> worked before, or and because One did not do any thing means that
>>> there is No reason to check all the settings is a misleading
>>> approach. Jack (MVP-Networking).
>>>
>>>
>>> "Ripper" <ripper@nospam.net> wrote in message
>>> news:uG5Bf6x4JHA.5048@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>>> I have 2 desktops, 1 Vista Biz, 1 XP Pro and 3 laptops, 2 Vista
>>>> Home Premium, 1 XP Pro. All have latest service packs and updates.
>>>> All connected (laptops wirelessly) all working and seeing each
>>>> other (for months) - until today at about 3 pm. All of sudden the
>>>> two XP machines can't find MSHOME. "MSHOME is not accessible. You
>>>> might not have permissions to use this
>>>> network resource. Contact the admin of this server to find out if
>>>> you have access permissions. The network path was not found."
>>>>
>>>> The XP laptop has 2 mapped drives to directories on the XP desktop
>>>> and 1 to the Vista Biz machine. One of the mapped drives continued
>>>> to work even after I got the error message, but now it doesn't
>>>> work. All machines have ZoneAlarm Free; I shut it down on the two
>>>> XP machines with no change. Rebooted everything several times. I
>>>> can log into the router from the suspect machines and all machines
>>>> can ping each other, but that pesky MSHOME just won't show on the
>>>> 2 XP machines. I'm scanning both with AVG presently but it's just
>>>> finding cookies. I'm not sure what to check for because I know I
>>>> have the connection and all the machines can access the internet
>>>> too. I reran the network setup wizard again on the suspect
>>>> machines with no change. Please help! Rip