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Networking Issues - Cannot See Machines Within Workgroup

Author
13 May 2005 5:56 PM
kingpin68
I have 2 desktops networked/shared via a Linksys BEFSR41 router.  I also have
an IBM Thinkpad on a WRT54G, which is 'piggy-backed' off the BEFSR41,
basically acting as a wireless access point.  From either of the desktops, I
can see the laptop in the workgroup, however from the laptop I can see no
machines in the workgroup.  The laptop can hit the internet, email, etc. but
cannot view the other machines to share files/printers.

Thanks

Author
15 May 2005 6:26 PM
GTS
This is the usual result when routers are chained this way.   To use the
wireless router as an Access Point you need to

1.  Set the WRT54G to a static IP address on the same subnet but outside the
DHCP range of the  BEFSR41.
2.  Disable DHCP on the WRT54G.
3.  Do not use the uplink port of the WRT54G, i.e. connect the BEFSR41 and
the 2 PCs to LAN ports only.

See http://www.ezlan.net/router_AP.html for a little more detail if needed.
--

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"kingpin68" <kingpi***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:F60C8065-E536-4DA7-81F3-7446FAF1831D@microsoft.com...
>I have 2 desktops networked/shared via a Linksys BEFSR41 router.  I also
>have
> an IBM Thinkpad on a WRT54G, which is 'piggy-backed' off the BEFSR41,
> basically acting as a wireless access point.  From either of the desktops,
> I
> can see the laptop in the workgroup, however from the laptop I can see no
> machines in the workgroup.  The laptop can hit the internet, email, etc.
> but
> cannot view the other machines to share files/printers.
>
> Thanks
Author
16 May 2005 12:52 PM
kingpin68
I have the WRT54G set to 192.168.1.250, with DHCP swtiched off.

I have all 3 devices set to static IP addresses, would this have any effect?

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"GTS" wrote:

> This is the usual result when routers are chained this way.   To use the
> wireless router as an Access Point you need to
>
> 1.  Set the WRT54G to a static IP address on the same subnet but outside the
> DHCP range of the  BEFSR41.
> 2.  Disable DHCP on the WRT54G.
> 3.  Do not use the uplink port of the WRT54G, i.e. connect the BEFSR41 and
> the 2 PCs to LAN ports only.
>
> See http://www.ezlan.net/router_AP.html for a little more detail if needed.
> --
>
> "kingpin68" <kingpi***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:F60C8065-E536-4DA7-81F3-7446FAF1831D@microsoft.com...
> >I have 2 desktops networked/shared via a Linksys BEFSR41 router.  I also
> >have
> > an IBM Thinkpad on a WRT54G, which is 'piggy-backed' off the BEFSR41,
> > basically acting as a wireless access point.  From either of the desktops,
> > I
> > can see the laptop in the workgroup, however from the laptop I can see no
> > machines in the workgroup.  The laptop can hit the internet, email, etc.
> > but
> > cannot view the other machines to share files/printers.
> >
> > Thanks
>
>
>
Author
16 May 2005 3:30 PM
GTS
That should be OK if they're all in the same subnet.  From the laptop can
you ping the desktops?  If so, can you view them if you run   //desktopname?
--

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"kingpin68" <kingpi***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:AE94A8E1-7415-422D-9149-DB353A39520F@microsoft.com...
>I have the WRT54G set to 192.168.1.250, with DHCP swtiched off.
>
> I have all 3 devices set to static IP addresses, would this have any
> effect?
>
> "GTS" wrote:
>
>> This is the usual result when routers are chained this way.   To use the
>> wireless router as an Access Point you need to
>>
>> 1.  Set the WRT54G to a static IP address on the same subnet but outside
>> the
>> DHCP range of the  BEFSR41.
>> 2.  Disable DHCP on the WRT54G.
>> 3.  Do not use the uplink port of the WRT54G, i.e. connect the BEFSR41
>> and
>> the 2 PCs to LAN ports only.
>>
>> See http://www.ezlan.net/router_AP.html for a little more detail if
>> needed.
>> --
>>
>> "kingpin68" <kingpi***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:F60C8065-E536-4DA7-81F3-7446FAF1831D@microsoft.com...
>> >I have 2 desktops networked/shared via a Linksys BEFSR41 router.  I also
>> >have
>> > an IBM Thinkpad on a WRT54G, which is 'piggy-backed' off the BEFSR41,
>> > basically acting as a wireless access point.  From either of the
>> > desktops,
>> > I
>> > can see the laptop in the workgroup, however from the laptop I can see
>> > no
>> > machines in the workgroup.  The laptop can hit the internet, email,
>> > etc.
>> > but
>> > cannot view the other machines to share files/printers.
>> >
>> > Thanks
>>
>>
>>
Author
16 May 2005 7:08 PM
kingpin68
All three machines are in the same subnet and I can ping the desktops via the
laptop.  I'm not familiar with the command you suggested I try, sorry.

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"GTS" wrote:

> That should be OK if they're all in the same subnet.  From the laptop can
> you ping the desktops?  If so, can you view them if you run   //desktopname?
> --
>
> "kingpin68" <kingpi***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:AE94A8E1-7415-422D-9149-DB353A39520F@microsoft.com...
> >I have the WRT54G set to 192.168.1.250, with DHCP swtiched off.
> >
> > I have all 3 devices set to static IP addresses, would this have any
> > effect?
> >
> > "GTS" wrote:
> >
> >> This is the usual result when routers are chained this way.   To use the
> >> wireless router as an Access Point you need to
> >>
> >> 1.  Set the WRT54G to a static IP address on the same subnet but outside
> >> the
> >> DHCP range of the  BEFSR41.
> >> 2.  Disable DHCP on the WRT54G.
> >> 3.  Do not use the uplink port of the WRT54G, i.e. connect the BEFSR41
> >> and
> >> the 2 PCs to LAN ports only.
> >>
> >> See http://www.ezlan.net/router_AP.html for a little more detail if
> >> needed.
> >> --
> >>
> >> "kingpin68" <kingpi***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> news:F60C8065-E536-4DA7-81F3-7446FAF1831D@microsoft.com...
> >> >I have 2 desktops networked/shared via a Linksys BEFSR41 router.  I also
> >> >have
> >> > an IBM Thinkpad on a WRT54G, which is 'piggy-backed' off the BEFSR41,
> >> > basically acting as a wireless access point.  From either of the
> >> > desktops,
> >> > I
> >> > can see the laptop in the workgroup, however from the laptop I can see
> >> > no
> >> > machines in the workgroup.  The laptop can hit the internet, email,
> >> > etc.
> >> > but
> >> > cannot view the other machines to share files/printers.
> >> >
> >> > Thanks
> >>
> >>
> >>
>
>
>
Author
16 May 2005 8:31 PM
GTS
The fact that you can ping them is good.  re. the other item 0

Click Start then Run.  In the Open box type \\netname    That's 2
backslashes and the network name of the other computer.  It will either open
an explorer view of the shares on the computer or will  report an error code
which will be helpful.
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"kingpin68" <kingpi***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:FFA93E6C-FE47-4BF4-9AD1-E551E6656DD9@microsoft.com...
> All three machines are in the same subnet and I can ping the desktops via
> the
> laptop.  I'm not familiar with the command you suggested I try, sorry.
>
> "GTS" wrote:
>
>> That should be OK if they're all in the same subnet.  From the laptop can
>> you ping the desktops?  If so, can you view them if you run
>> //desktopname?
>> --
>>
>> "kingpin68" <kingpi***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:AE94A8E1-7415-422D-9149-DB353A39520F@microsoft.com...
>> >I have the WRT54G set to 192.168.1.250, with DHCP swtiched off.
>> >
>> > I have all 3 devices set to static IP addresses, would this have any
>> > effect?
>> >
>> > "GTS" wrote:
>> >
>> >> This is the usual result when routers are chained this way.   To use
>> >> the
>> >> wireless router as an Access Point you need to
>> >>
>> >> 1.  Set the WRT54G to a static IP address on the same subnet but
>> >> outside
>> >> the
>> >> DHCP range of the  BEFSR41.
>> >> 2.  Disable DHCP on the WRT54G.
>> >> 3.  Do not use the uplink port of the WRT54G, i.e. connect the BEFSR41
>> >> and
>> >> the 2 PCs to LAN ports only.
>> >>
>> >> See http://www.ezlan.net/router_AP.html for a little more detail if
>> >> needed.
>> >> --
>> >>
>> >> "kingpin68" <kingpi***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> >> news:F60C8065-E536-4DA7-81F3-7446FAF1831D@microsoft.com...
>> >> >I have 2 desktops networked/shared via a Linksys BEFSR41 router.  I
>> >> >also
>> >> >have
>> >> > an IBM Thinkpad on a WRT54G, which is 'piggy-backed' off the
>> >> > BEFSR41,
>> >> > basically acting as a wireless access point.  From either of the
>> >> > desktops,
>> >> > I
>> >> > can see the laptop in the workgroup, however from the laptop I can
>> >> > see
>> >> > no
>> >> > machines in the workgroup.  The laptop can hit the internet, email,
>> >> > etc.
>> >> > but
>> >> > cannot view the other machines to share files/printers.
>> >> >
>> >> > Thanks
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>>
>>
>>
Author
16 May 2005 9:38 PM
kingpin68
I receive the following:

\\penguins1

The network path was not found.

I receive that from the laptop to the two desktops and vice versa.

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"GTS" wrote:

> The fact that you can ping them is good.  re. the other item 0
>
> Click Start then Run.  In the Open box type \\netname    That's 2
> backslashes and the network name of the other computer.  It will either open
> an explorer view of the shares on the computer or will  report an error code
> which will be helpful.
> --
>
> "kingpin68" <kingpi***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:FFA93E6C-FE47-4BF4-9AD1-E551E6656DD9@microsoft.com...
> > All three machines are in the same subnet and I can ping the desktops via
> > the
> > laptop.  I'm not familiar with the command you suggested I try, sorry.
> >
> > "GTS" wrote:
> >
> >> That should be OK if they're all in the same subnet.  From the laptop can
> >> you ping the desktops?  If so, can you view them if you run
> >> //desktopname?
> >> --
> >>
> >> "kingpin68" <kingpi***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> news:AE94A8E1-7415-422D-9149-DB353A39520F@microsoft.com...
> >> >I have the WRT54G set to 192.168.1.250, with DHCP swtiched off.
> >> >
> >> > I have all 3 devices set to static IP addresses, would this have any
> >> > effect?
> >> >
> >> > "GTS" wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> This is the usual result when routers are chained this way.   To use
> >> >> the
> >> >> wireless router as an Access Point you need to
> >> >>
> >> >> 1.  Set the WRT54G to a static IP address on the same subnet but
> >> >> outside
> >> >> the
> >> >> DHCP range of the  BEFSR41.
> >> >> 2.  Disable DHCP on the WRT54G.
> >> >> 3.  Do not use the uplink port of the WRT54G, i.e. connect the BEFSR41
> >> >> and
> >> >> the 2 PCs to LAN ports only.
> >> >>
> >> >> See http://www.ezlan.net/router_AP.html for a little more detail if
> >> >> needed.
> >> >> --
> >> >>
> >> >> "kingpin68" <kingpi***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> >> news:F60C8065-E536-4DA7-81F3-7446FAF1831D@microsoft.com...
> >> >> >I have 2 desktops networked/shared via a Linksys BEFSR41 router.  I
> >> >> >also
> >> >> >have
> >> >> > an IBM Thinkpad on a WRT54G, which is 'piggy-backed' off the
> >> >> > BEFSR41,
> >> >> > basically acting as a wireless access point.  From either of the
> >> >> > desktops,
> >> >> > I
> >> >> > can see the laptop in the workgroup, however from the laptop I can
> >> >> > see
> >> >> > no
> >> >> > machines in the workgroup.  The laptop can hit the internet, email,
> >> >> > etc.
> >> >> > but
> >> >> > cannot view the other machines to share files/printers.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Thanks
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
>
>
>
Author
16 May 2005 10:30 PM
GTS
If you try the same thing using the IP address instead of the computer name
what happens?
Also, is there any firewall running on the laptop?
--

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"kingpin68" <kingpi***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:AF840F94-1B93-4A07-81C8-09D031CA5C1A@microsoft.com...
>I receive the following:
>
> \\penguins1
>
> The network path was not found.
>
> I receive that from the laptop to the two desktops and vice versa.
>
> "GTS" wrote:
>
>> The fact that you can ping them is good.  re. the other item 0
>>
>> Click Start then Run.  In the Open box type \\netname    That's 2
>> backslashes and the network name of the other computer.  It will either
>> open
>> an explorer view of the shares on the computer or will  report an error
>> code
>> which will be helpful.
>> --
>>
>> "kingpin68" <kingpi***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:FFA93E6C-FE47-4BF4-9AD1-E551E6656DD9@microsoft.com...
>> > All three machines are in the same subnet and I can ping the desktops
>> > via
>> > the
>> > laptop.  I'm not familiar with the command you suggested I try, sorry.
>> >
>> > "GTS" wrote:
>> >
>> >> That should be OK if they're all in the same subnet.  From the laptop
>> >> can
>> >> you ping the desktops?  If so, can you view them if you run
>> >> //desktopname?
>> >> --
>> >>
>> >> "kingpin68" <kingpi***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> >> news:AE94A8E1-7415-422D-9149-DB353A39520F@microsoft.com...
>> >> >I have the WRT54G set to 192.168.1.250, with DHCP swtiched off.
>> >> >
>> >> > I have all 3 devices set to static IP addresses, would this have any
>> >> > effect?
>> >> >
>> >> > "GTS" wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> This is the usual result when routers are chained this way.   To
>> >> >> use
>> >> >> the
>> >> >> wireless router as an Access Point you need to
>> >> >>
>> >> >> 1.  Set the WRT54G to a static IP address on the same subnet but
>> >> >> outside
>> >> >> the
>> >> >> DHCP range of the  BEFSR41.
>> >> >> 2.  Disable DHCP on the WRT54G.
>> >> >> 3.  Do not use the uplink port of the WRT54G, i.e. connect the
>> >> >> BEFSR41
>> >> >> and
>> >> >> the 2 PCs to LAN ports only.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> See http://www.ezlan.net/router_AP.html for a little more detail if
>> >> >> needed.
>> >> >> --
>> >> >>
>> >> >> "kingpin68" <kingpi***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> >> >> news:F60C8065-E536-4DA7-81F3-7446FAF1831D@microsoft.com...
>> >> >> >I have 2 desktops networked/shared via a Linksys BEFSR41 router.
>> >> >> >I
>> >> >> >also
>> >> >> >have
>> >> >> > an IBM Thinkpad on a WRT54G, which is 'piggy-backed' off the
>> >> >> > BEFSR41,
>> >> >> > basically acting as a wireless access point.  From either of the
>> >> >> > desktops,
>> >> >> > I
>> >> >> > can see the laptop in the workgroup, however from the laptop I
>> >> >> > can
>> >> >> > see
>> >> >> > no
>> >> >> > machines in the workgroup.  The laptop can hit the internet,
>> >> >> > email,
>> >> >> > etc.
>> >> >> > but
>> >> >> > cannot view the other machines to share files/printers.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Thanks
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>>
>>
>>
Author
16 May 2005 10:40 PM
kingpin68
Using the IP nets the same results. 

Yes, I do have Zone Labs running on the laptop, shutting it down and I can
now view the other machines and map a printer.  What on the firewall do I
need to remove, etc?

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"GTS" wrote:

> If you try the same thing using the IP address instead of the computer name
> what happens?
> Also, is there any firewall running on the laptop?
> --
>
> "kingpin68" <kingpi***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:AF840F94-1B93-4A07-81C8-09D031CA5C1A@microsoft.com...
> >I receive the following:
> >
> > \\penguins1
> >
> > The network path was not found.
> >
> > I receive that from the laptop to the two desktops and vice versa.
> >
> > "GTS" wrote:
> >
> >> The fact that you can ping them is good.  re. the other item 0
> >>
> >> Click Start then Run.  In the Open box type \\netname    That's 2
> >> backslashes and the network name of the other computer.  It will either
> >> open
> >> an explorer view of the shares on the computer or will  report an error
> >> code
> >> which will be helpful.
> >> --
> >>
> >> "kingpin68" <kingpi***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> news:FFA93E6C-FE47-4BF4-9AD1-E551E6656DD9@microsoft.com...
> >> > All three machines are in the same subnet and I can ping the desktops
> >> > via
> >> > the
> >> > laptop.  I'm not familiar with the command you suggested I try, sorry.
> >> >
> >> > "GTS" wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> That should be OK if they're all in the same subnet.  From the laptop
> >> >> can
> >> >> you ping the desktops?  If so, can you view them if you run
> >> >> //desktopname?
> >> >> --
> >> >>
> >> >> "kingpin68" <kingpi***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> >> news:AE94A8E1-7415-422D-9149-DB353A39520F@microsoft.com...
> >> >> >I have the WRT54G set to 192.168.1.250, with DHCP swtiched off.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > I have all 3 devices set to static IP addresses, would this have any
> >> >> > effect?
> >> >> >
> >> >> > "GTS" wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> This is the usual result when routers are chained this way.   To
> >> >> >> use
> >> >> >> the
> >> >> >> wireless router as an Access Point you need to
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> 1.  Set the WRT54G to a static IP address on the same subnet but
> >> >> >> outside
> >> >> >> the
> >> >> >> DHCP range of the  BEFSR41.
> >> >> >> 2.  Disable DHCP on the WRT54G.
> >> >> >> 3.  Do not use the uplink port of the WRT54G, i.e. connect the
> >> >> >> BEFSR41
> >> >> >> and
> >> >> >> the 2 PCs to LAN ports only.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> See http://www.ezlan.net/router_AP.html for a little more detail if
> >> >> >> needed.
> >> >> >> --
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> "kingpin68" <kingpi***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> >> >> news:F60C8065-E536-4DA7-81F3-7446FAF1831D@microsoft.com...
> >> >> >> >I have 2 desktops networked/shared via a Linksys BEFSR41 router.
> >> >> >> >I
> >> >> >> >also
> >> >> >> >have
> >> >> >> > an IBM Thinkpad on a WRT54G, which is 'piggy-backed' off the
> >> >> >> > BEFSR41,
> >> >> >> > basically acting as a wireless access point.  From either of the
> >> >> >> > desktops,
> >> >> >> > I
> >> >> >> > can see the laptop in the workgroup, however from the laptop I
> >> >> >> > can
> >> >> >> > see
> >> >> >> > no
> >> >> >> > machines in the workgroup.  The laptop can hit the internet,
> >> >> >> > email,
> >> >> >> > etc.
> >> >> >> > but
> >> >> >> > cannot view the other machines to share files/printers.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > Thanks
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
>
>
>
Author
17 May 2005 2:24 PM
GTS
Wish I'd thought to ask that sooner :)   You can add the IP addresses of the
2 desktops to the trusted zone in Zone Alarm.
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"kingpin68" <kingpi***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:710C27F1-437D-4742-BAE2-97EFF675B96E@microsoft.com...
> Using the IP nets the same results.
>
> Yes, I do have Zone Labs running on the laptop, shutting it down and I can
> now view the other machines and map a printer.  What on the firewall do I
> need to remove, etc?
>
> "GTS" wrote:
>
>> If you try the same thing using the IP address instead of the computer
>> name
>> what happens?
>> Also, is there any firewall running on the laptop?
>> --
>>
>> "kingpin68" <kingpi***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:AF840F94-1B93-4A07-81C8-09D031CA5C1A@microsoft.com...
>> >I receive the following:
>> >
>> > \\penguins1
>> >
>> > The network path was not found.
>> >
>> > I receive that from the laptop to the two desktops and vice versa.
>> >
>> > "GTS" wrote:
>> >
>> >> The fact that you can ping them is good.  re. the other item 0
>> >>
>> >> Click Start then Run.  In the Open box type \\netname    That's 2
>> >> backslashes and the network name of the other computer.  It will
>> >> either
>> >> open
>> >> an explorer view of the shares on the computer or will  report an
>> >> error
>> >> code
>> >> which will be helpful.
>> >> --
>> >>
>> >> "kingpin68" <kingpi***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> >> news:FFA93E6C-FE47-4BF4-9AD1-E551E6656DD9@microsoft.com...
>> >> > All three machines are in the same subnet and I can ping the
>> >> > desktops
>> >> > via
>> >> > the
>> >> > laptop.  I'm not familiar with the command you suggested I try,
>> >> > sorry.
>> >> >
>> >> > "GTS" wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> That should be OK if they're all in the same subnet.  From the
>> >> >> laptop
>> >> >> can
>> >> >> you ping the desktops?  If so, can you view them if you run
>> >> >> //desktopname?
>> >> >> --
>> >> >>
>> >> >> "kingpin68" <kingpi***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> >> >> news:AE94A8E1-7415-422D-9149-DB353A39520F@microsoft.com...
>> >> >> >I have the WRT54G set to 192.168.1.250, with DHCP swtiched off.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > I have all 3 devices set to static IP addresses, would this have
>> >> >> > any
>> >> >> > effect?
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > "GTS" wrote:
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> This is the usual result when routers are chained this way.   To
>> >> >> >> use
>> >> >> >> the
>> >> >> >> wireless router as an Access Point you need to
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> 1.  Set the WRT54G to a static IP address on the same subnet but
>> >> >> >> outside
>> >> >> >> the
>> >> >> >> DHCP range of the  BEFSR41.
>> >> >> >> 2.  Disable DHCP on the WRT54G.
>> >> >> >> 3.  Do not use the uplink port of the WRT54G, i.e. connect the
>> >> >> >> BEFSR41
>> >> >> >> and
>> >> >> >> the 2 PCs to LAN ports only.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> See http://www.ezlan.net/router_AP.html for a little more detail
>> >> >> >> if
>> >> >> >> needed.
>> >> >> >> --
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> "kingpin68" <kingpi***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
>> >> >> >> message
>> >> >> >> news:F60C8065-E536-4DA7-81F3-7446FAF1831D@microsoft.com...
>> >> >> >> >I have 2 desktops networked/shared via a Linksys BEFSR41
>> >> >> >> >router.
>> >> >> >> >I
>> >> >> >> >also
>> >> >> >> >have
>> >> >> >> > an IBM Thinkpad on a WRT54G, which is 'piggy-backed' off the
>> >> >> >> > BEFSR41,
>> >> >> >> > basically acting as a wireless access point.  From either of
>> >> >> >> > the
>> >> >> >> > desktops,
>> >> >> >> > I
>> >> >> >> > can see the laptop in the workgroup, however from the laptop I
>> >> >> >> > can
>> >> >> >> > see
>> >> >> >> > no
>> >> >> >> > machines in the workgroup.  The laptop can hit the internet,
>> >> >> >> > email,
>> >> >> >> > etc.
>> >> >> >> > but
>> >> >> >> > cannot view the other machines to share files/printers.
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > Thanks
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>>
>>
>>
Author
18 May 2005 12:06 AM
kingpin68
Yep that did the trick.  Just one of those obvious things you forget to look
at.  *sigh*

Thank you much.

Show quoteHide quote
"GTS" wrote:

> Wish I'd thought to ask that sooner :)   You can add the IP addresses of the
> 2 desktops to the trusted zone in Zone Alarm.
> --
>
> "kingpin68" <kingpi***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:710C27F1-437D-4742-BAE2-97EFF675B96E@microsoft.com...
> > Using the IP nets the same results.
> >
> > Yes, I do have Zone Labs running on the laptop, shutting it down and I can
> > now view the other machines and map a printer.  What on the firewall do I
> > need to remove, etc?
> >
> > "GTS" wrote:
> >
> >> If you try the same thing using the IP address instead of the computer
> >> name
> >> what happens?
> >> Also, is there any firewall running on the laptop?
> >> --
> >>
> >> "kingpin68" <kingpi***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> news:AF840F94-1B93-4A07-81C8-09D031CA5C1A@microsoft.com...
> >> >I receive the following:
> >> >
> >> > \\penguins1
> >> >
> >> > The network path was not found.
> >> >
> >> > I receive that from the laptop to the two desktops and vice versa.
> >> >
> >> > "GTS" wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> The fact that you can ping them is good.  re. the other item 0
> >> >>
> >> >> Click Start then Run.  In the Open box type \\netname    That's 2
> >> >> backslashes and the network name of the other computer.  It will
> >> >> either
> >> >> open
> >> >> an explorer view of the shares on the computer or will  report an
> >> >> error
> >> >> code
> >> >> which will be helpful.
> >> >> --
> >> >>
> >> >> "kingpin68" <kingpi***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> >> news:FFA93E6C-FE47-4BF4-9AD1-E551E6656DD9@microsoft.com...
> >> >> > All three machines are in the same subnet and I can ping the
> >> >> > desktops
> >> >> > via
> >> >> > the
> >> >> > laptop.  I'm not familiar with the command you suggested I try,
> >> >> > sorry.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > "GTS" wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> That should be OK if they're all in the same subnet.  From the
> >> >> >> laptop
> >> >> >> can
> >> >> >> you ping the desktops?  If so, can you view them if you run
> >> >> >> //desktopname?
> >> >> >> --
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> "kingpin68" <kingpi***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> >> >> news:AE94A8E1-7415-422D-9149-DB353A39520F@microsoft.com...
> >> >> >> >I have the WRT54G set to 192.168.1.250, with DHCP swtiched off.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > I have all 3 devices set to static IP addresses, would this have
> >> >> >> > any
> >> >> >> > effect?
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > "GTS" wrote:
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> This is the usual result when routers are chained this way.   To
> >> >> >> >> use
> >> >> >> >> the
> >> >> >> >> wireless router as an Access Point you need to
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> 1.  Set the WRT54G to a static IP address on the same subnet but
> >> >> >> >> outside
> >> >> >> >> the
> >> >> >> >> DHCP range of the  BEFSR41.
> >> >> >> >> 2.  Disable DHCP on the WRT54G.
> >> >> >> >> 3.  Do not use the uplink port of the WRT54G, i.e. connect the
> >> >> >> >> BEFSR41
> >> >> >> >> and
> >> >> >> >> the 2 PCs to LAN ports only.
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> See http://www.ezlan.net/router_AP.html for a little more detail
> >> >> >> >> if
> >> >> >> >> needed.
> >> >> >> >> --
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> "kingpin68" <kingpi***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
> >> >> >> >> message
> >> >> >> >> news:F60C8065-E536-4DA7-81F3-7446FAF1831D@microsoft.com...
> >> >> >> >> >I have 2 desktops networked/shared via a Linksys BEFSR41
> >> >> >> >> >router.
> >> >> >> >> >I
> >> >> >> >> >also
> >> >> >> >> >have
> >> >> >> >> > an IBM Thinkpad on a WRT54G, which is 'piggy-backed' off the
> >> >> >> >> > BEFSR41,
> >> >> >> >> > basically acting as a wireless access point.  From either of
> >> >> >> >> > the
> >> >> >> >> > desktops,
> >> >> >> >> > I
> >> >> >> >> > can see the laptop in the workgroup, however from the laptop I
> >> >> >> >> > can
> >> >> >> >> > see
> >> >> >> >> > no
> >> >> >> >> > machines in the workgroup.  The laptop can hit the internet,
> >> >> >> >> > email,
> >> >> >> >> > etc.
> >> >> >> >> > but
> >> >> >> >> > cannot view the other machines to share files/printers.
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> > Thanks
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
>
>
>
Author
18 May 2005 2:47 AM
GTS
You're welcome.
--

Show quoteHide quote
"kingpin68" <kingpi***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:C8450B97-4164-4CCD-ADFA-7116E7EC352D@microsoft.com...
> Yep that did the trick.  Just one of those obvious things you forget to
> look
> at.  *sigh*
>
> Thank you much.
>
> "GTS" wrote:
>
>> Wish I'd thought to ask that sooner :)   You can add the IP addresses of
>> the
>> 2 desktops to the trusted zone in Zone Alarm.
>> --
>>
>> "kingpin68" <kingpi***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:710C27F1-437D-4742-BAE2-97EFF675B96E@microsoft.com...
>> > Using the IP nets the same results.
>> >
>> > Yes, I do have Zone Labs running on the laptop, shutting it down and I
>> > can
>> > now view the other machines and map a printer.  What on the firewall do
>> > I
>> > need to remove, etc?
>> >
>> > "GTS" wrote:
>> >
>> >> If you try the same thing using the IP address instead of the computer
>> >> name
>> >> what happens?
>> >> Also, is there any firewall running on the laptop?
>> >> --
>> >>
>> >> "kingpin68" <kingpi***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> >> news:AF840F94-1B93-4A07-81C8-09D031CA5C1A@microsoft.com...
>> >> >I receive the following:
>> >> >
>> >> > \\penguins1
>> >> >
>> >> > The network path was not found.
>> >> >
>> >> > I receive that from the laptop to the two desktops and vice versa.
>> >> >
>> >> > "GTS" wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> The fact that you can ping them is good.  re. the other item 0
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Click Start then Run.  In the Open box type \\netname    That's 2
>> >> >> backslashes and the network name of the other computer.  It will
>> >> >> either
>> >> >> open
>> >> >> an explorer view of the shares on the computer or will  report an
>> >> >> error
>> >> >> code
>> >> >> which will be helpful.
>> >> >> --
>> >> >>
>> >> >> "kingpin68" <kingpi***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> >> >> news:FFA93E6C-FE47-4BF4-9AD1-E551E6656DD9@microsoft.com...
>> >> >> > All three machines are in the same subnet and I can ping the
>> >> >> > desktops
>> >> >> > via
>> >> >> > the
>> >> >> > laptop.  I'm not familiar with the command you suggested I try,
>> >> >> > sorry.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > "GTS" wrote:
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> That should be OK if they're all in the same subnet.  From the
>> >> >> >> laptop
>> >> >> >> can
>> >> >> >> you ping the desktops?  If so, can you view them if you run
>> >> >> >> //desktopname?
>> >> >> >> --
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> "kingpin68" <kingpi***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
>> >> >> >> message
>> >> >> >> news:AE94A8E1-7415-422D-9149-DB353A39520F@microsoft.com...
>> >> >> >> >I have the WRT54G set to 192.168.1.250, with DHCP swtiched off.
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > I have all 3 devices set to static IP addresses, would this
>> >> >> >> > have
>> >> >> >> > any
>> >> >> >> > effect?
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > "GTS" wrote:
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> This is the usual result when routers are chained this way.
>> >> >> >> >> To
>> >> >> >> >> use
>> >> >> >> >> the
>> >> >> >> >> wireless router as an Access Point you need to
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> 1.  Set the WRT54G to a static IP address on the same subnet
>> >> >> >> >> but
>> >> >> >> >> outside
>> >> >> >> >> the
>> >> >> >> >> DHCP range of the  BEFSR41.
>> >> >> >> >> 2.  Disable DHCP on the WRT54G.
>> >> >> >> >> 3.  Do not use the uplink port of the WRT54G, i.e. connect
>> >> >> >> >> the
>> >> >> >> >> BEFSR41
>> >> >> >> >> and
>> >> >> >> >> the 2 PCs to LAN ports only.
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> See http://www.ezlan.net/router_AP.html for a little more
>> >> >> >> >> detail
>> >> >> >> >> if
>> >> >> >> >> needed.
>> >> >> >> >> --
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> "kingpin68" <kingpi***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
>> >> >> >> >> message
>> >> >> >> >> news:F60C8065-E536-4DA7-81F3-7446FAF1831D@microsoft.com...
>> >> >> >> >> >I have 2 desktops networked/shared via a Linksys BEFSR41
>> >> >> >> >> >router.
>> >> >> >> >> >I
>> >> >> >> >> >also
>> >> >> >> >> >have
>> >> >> >> >> > an IBM Thinkpad on a WRT54G, which is 'piggy-backed' off
>> >> >> >> >> > the
>> >> >> >> >> > BEFSR41,
>> >> >> >> >> > basically acting as a wireless access point.  From either
>> >> >> >> >> > of
>> >> >> >> >> > the
>> >> >> >> >> > desktops,
>> >> >> >> >> > I
>> >> >> >> >> > can see the laptop in the workgroup, however from the
>> >> >> >> >> > laptop I
>> >> >> >> >> > can
>> >> >> >> >> > see
>> >> >> >> >> > no
>> >> >> >> >> > machines in the workgroup.  The laptop can hit the
>> >> >> >> >> > internet,
>> >> >> >> >> > email,
>> >> >> >> >> > etc.
>> >> >> >> >> > but
>> >> >> >> >> > cannot view the other machines to share files/printers.
>> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> > Thanks
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>>
>>
>>
Author
18 Oct 2008 2:07 AM
Phil
I am writing this letter to ALL Wireless Router manufacturers.
I have a Linksys Wireless Router Model:BEFW11S4.  It is 7 years (yes, count
them, all of seven little years) old.  I have visited the Linksys website
numerous times trying to set up the WEP/WPA security on that wireless router
(as all responsible wireless router owners should!).  I found that there are
no links to any wireless router setting websites that are congruent with the
screen shots from Linksys' own self help technical support site.  I have had
to call Linksys several times to resolve this issue only to be placed on hold
for lengthy times (sometimes my call was dropped and I had to start over ....
how sad for such a large company to have such poorly trained phone
receptionists!),  then be transferred (see previous comment about the phone
receptionists) to a supposed supervisor, only to finally be transferred to
someone who tells me that the warranty has expired and wants me to pay $40.00
for the technical support to do the right thing that I want and need to do. 
First, the device works fine (as evidenced by this e-mail that you have
just received)!
Second, why should I have to pay for doing the right thing?
Third, if I am going to be EXTORTED into buying a new wireless router so
that I can do the right thing and set up an encryption key for a secure
network, what on Gods' Green Earth makes anyone think that I would CHOOSE to
buy another Linksys product when ALL that I have ever received from them is a
functional wireless router (yes, even after seven whole years) and the
crappiest Customer Service/Technical Support I have ever had the displeasure
to encounter! 
I shall copy this letter and try to find as many Chat Rooms as possible in
order to spread the word of ALL that I have gone through with the Chain of
Command at the Linksys phone center, well above and beyond what any
reasonable person should expect to go through, and still have NO RELIEF
concerning my singular issue with their product and its capabilities that I
SHOULD be able to enjoy as the owner of said product!  What has happend to
"The Customer Is Always Right" Customer Service mantra (I can't say "In
America" because the call was handled in India)?  Is the Customer, the ones
that makes the company what it is through the purchase of products, so
worthless to the company that they can just be treated with abject contempt
and scorn?  Is the Customer to thus be trampled underfoot? Are we paying to
be so abused?  I, for one (yes, one, the beginning of all), shall NOT be
treated in such manner, and CERTAINLY shall NOT PAY to be treated as such!
  In this world of expanding technologies, it shall be those with the
GREATEST Customer Appeal that shall continue to be found worthwile in the
publics' eyes (and pocketbooks) and shall grow to meet the demands of a
growing world - ESPECIALLY in the Electronics Department!
It is now my strongest desire that the Linksys Corporation suffers
irreparable damage and goes out of business for their Crappy Customer
Service! I can only hope that I reach enough people around the world to bring
this desire true!

Show quoteHide quote
"GTS" wrote:

> You're welcome.
> --
>
> "kingpin68" <kingpi***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:C8450B97-4164-4CCD-ADFA-7116E7EC352D@microsoft.com...
> > Yep that did the trick.  Just one of those obvious things you forget to
> > look
> > at.  *sigh*
> >
> > Thank you much.
> >
> > "GTS" wrote:
> >
> >> Wish I'd thought to ask that sooner :)   You can add the IP addresses of
> >> the
> >> 2 desktops to the trusted zone in Zone Alarm.
> >> --
> >>
> >> "kingpin68" <kingpi***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> news:710C27F1-437D-4742-BAE2-97EFF675B96E@microsoft.com...
> >> > Using the IP nets the same results.
> >> >
> >> > Yes, I do have Zone Labs running on the laptop, shutting it down and I
> >> > can
> >> > now view the other machines and map a printer.  What on the firewall do
> >> > I
> >> > need to remove, etc?
> >> >
> >> > "GTS" wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> If you try the same thing using the IP address instead of the computer
> >> >> name
> >> >> what happens?
> >> >> Also, is there any firewall running on the laptop?
> >> >> --
> >> >>
> >> >> "kingpin68" <kingpi***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> >> news:AF840F94-1B93-4A07-81C8-09D031CA5C1A@microsoft.com...
> >> >> >I receive the following:
> >> >> >
> >> >> > \\penguins1
> >> >> >
> >> >> > The network path was not found.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > I receive that from the laptop to the two desktops and vice versa.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > "GTS" wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> The fact that you can ping them is good.  re. the other item 0
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Click Start then Run.  In the Open box type \\netname    That's 2
> >> >> >> backslashes and the network name of the other computer.  It will
> >> >> >> either
> >> >> >> open
> >> >> >> an explorer view of the shares on the computer or will  report an
> >> >> >> error
> >> >> >> code
> >> >> >> which will be helpful.
> >> >> >> --
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> "kingpin68" <kingpi***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> >> >> news:FFA93E6C-FE47-4BF4-9AD1-E551E6656DD9@microsoft.com...
> >> >> >> > All three machines are in the same subnet and I can ping the
> >> >> >> > desktops
> >> >> >> > via
> >> >> >> > the
> >> >> >> > laptop.  I'm not familiar with the command you suggested I try,
> >> >> >> > sorry.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > "GTS" wrote:
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> That should be OK if they're all in the same subnet.  From the
> >> >> >> >> laptop
> >> >> >> >> can
> >> >> >> >> you ping the desktops?  If so, can you view them if you run
> >> >> >> >> //desktopname?
> >> >> >> >> --
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> "kingpin68" <kingpi***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
> >> >> >> >> message
> >> >> >> >> news:AE94A8E1-7415-422D-9149-DB353A39520F@microsoft.com...
> >> >> >> >> >I have the WRT54G set to 192.168.1.250, with DHCP swtiched off.
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> > I have all 3 devices set to static IP addresses, would this
> >> >> >> >> > have
> >> >> >> >> > any
> >> >> >> >> > effect?
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> > "GTS" wrote:
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> This is the usual result when routers are chained this way.
> >> >> >> >> >> To
> >> >> >> >> >> use
> >> >> >> >> >> the
> >> >> >> >> >> wireless router as an Access Point you need to
> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> 1.  Set the WRT54G to a static IP address on the same subnet
> >> >> >> >> >> but
> >> >> >> >> >> outside
> >> >> >> >> >> the
> >> >> >> >> >> DHCP range of the  BEFSR41.
> >> >> >> >> >> 2.  Disable DHCP on the WRT54G.
> >> >> >> >> >> 3.  Do not use the uplink port of the WRT54G, i.e. connect
> >> >> >> >> >> the
> >> >> >> >> >> BEFSR41
> >> >> >> >> >> and
> >> >> >> >> >> the 2 PCs to LAN ports only.
> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> See http://www.ezlan.net/router_AP.html for a little more
> >> >> >> >> >> detail
> >> >> >> >> >> if
> >> >> >> >> >> needed.
> >> >> >> >> >> --
> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> "kingpin68" <kingpi***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
> >> >> >> >> >> message
> >> >> >> >> >> news:F60C8065-E536-4DA7-81F3-7446FAF1831D@microsoft.com...
> >> >> >> >> >> >I have 2 desktops networked/shared via a Linksys BEFSR41
> >> >> >> >> >> >router.
> >> >> >> >> >> >I
> >> >> >> >> >> >also
> >> >> >> >> >> >have
> >> >> >> >> >> > an IBM Thinkpad on a WRT54G, which is 'piggy-backed' off
> >> >> >> >> >> > the
> >> >> >> >> >> > BEFSR41,
> >> >> >> >> >> > basically acting as a wireless access point.  From either
> >> >> >> >> >> > of
> >> >> >> >> >> > the
> >> >> >> >> >> > desktops,
> >> >> >> >> >> > I
> >> >> >> >> >> > can see the laptop in the workgroup, however from the
> >> >> >> >> >> > laptop I
> >> >> >> >> >> > can
> >> >> >> >> >> > see
> >> >> >> >> >> > no
> >> >> >> >> >> > machines in the workgroup.  The laptop can hit the
> >> >> >> >> >> > internet,
> >> >> >> >> >> > email,
> >> >> >> >> >> > etc.
> >> >> >> >> >> > but
> >> >> >> >> >> > cannot view the other machines to share files/printers.
> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> > Thanks
> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
>
>
>
Author
18 Oct 2008 2:06 AM
Phil
I am writing this letter to ALL Wireless Router manufacturers.
I have a Linksys Wireless Router Model:BEFW11S4.  It is 7 years (yes, count
them, all of seven little years) old.  I have visited the Linksys website
numerous times trying to set up the WEP/WPA security on that wireless router
(as all responsible wireless router owners should!).  I found that there are
no links to any wireless router setting websites that are congruent with the
screen shots from Linksys' own self help technical support site.  I have had
to call Linksys several times to resolve this issue only to be placed on hold
for lengthy times (sometimes my call was dropped and I had to start over ....
how sad for such a large company to have such poorly trained phone
receptionists!),  then be transferred (see previous comment about the phone
receptionists) to a supposed supervisor, only to finally be transferred to
someone who tells me that the warranty has expired and wants me to pay $40.00
for the technical support to do the right thing that I want and need to do. 
First, the device works fine (as evidenced by this e-mail that you have
just received)!
Second, why should I have to pay for doing the right thing?
Third, if I am going to be EXTORTED into buying a new wireless router so
that I can do the right thing and set up an encryption key for a secure
network, what on Gods' Green Earth makes anyone think that I would CHOOSE to
buy another Linksys product when ALL that I have ever received from them is a
functional wireless router (yes, even after seven whole years) and the
crappiest Customer Service/Technical Support I have ever had the displeasure
to encounter! 
I shall copy this letter and try to find as many Chat Rooms as possible in
order to spread the word of ALL that I have gone through with the Chain of
Command at the Linksys phone center, well above and beyond what any
reasonable person should expect to go through, and still have NO RELIEF
concerning my singular issue with their product and its capabilities that I
SHOULD be able to enjoy as the owner of said product!  What has happend to
"The Customer Is Always Right" Customer Service mantra (I can't say "In
America" because the call was handled in India)?  Is the Customer, the ones
that makes the company what it is through the purchase of products, so
worthless to the company that they can just be treated with abject contempt
and scorn?  Is the Customer to thus be trampled underfoot? Are we paying to
be so abused?  I, for one (yes, one, the beginning of all), shall NOT be
treated in such manner, and CERTAINLY shall NOT PAY to be treated as such!
  In this world of expanding technologies, it shall be those with the
GREATEST Customer Appeal that shall continue to be found worthwile in the
publics' eyes (and pocketbooks) and shall grow to meet the demands of a
growing world - ESPECIALLY in the Electronics Department!
It is now my strongest desire that the Linksys Corporation suffers
irreparable damage and goes out of business for their Crappy Customer
Service! I can only hope that I reach enough people around the world to bring
this desire true!

Show quoteHide quote
"kingpin68" wrote:

> I have 2 desktops networked/shared via a Linksys BEFSR41 router.  I also have
> an IBM Thinkpad on a WRT54G, which is 'piggy-backed' off the BEFSR41,
> basically acting as a wireless access point.  From either of the desktops, I
> can see the laptop in the workgroup, however from the laptop I can see no
> machines in the workgroup.  The laptop can hit the internet, email, etc. but
> cannot view the other machines to share files/printers.
>
> Thanks