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Can I block specific networks from being detectedHello,
I live in a townhome and I can "sense" 4 or 5 wireless networks. Since I can only run on Channel 6 due to netgear 108's settings, my network seems to be interfered by a nearby one. Is there a way that I can make windows ONLY detect my network. Thanks, Alan Bump
Show quoteHide quote "trippwwf" wrote: > Hello, > > I live in a townhome and I can "sense" 4 or 5 wireless networks. Since I > can only run on Channel 6 due to netgear 108's settings, my network seems to > be interfered by a nearby one. > > Is there a way that I can make windows ONLY detect my network. > > Thanks, > > Alan Windows wireless zero configuration will only connect to a network in your
preferred list. If your wireless adapter is within range of a number of wireless networks, there really isn't much that you can do to prevent them from using channel 6. However, just becuase your wireless adapter can see another network, it does not mean that that network is operating on the same channel or even causing interference. A surprising number of wireless devices can coexist on the same channel without issue. The 802.11 wireless protocol has measures to ensure a quality experience when multiple devices are within radio range. Cordless phones do not make use of this protocol though and this leads us to... The greatest and most common sources of interference on the 802.11b and 802.11g spectrum are 2.4ghz cordless phones and counter-top microwave ovens. Unfortunately, it may prove difficult to convince your neighbors to remove those appliances or dictate their usage patterns. What makes you believe there is interferance on your network? Did you change the network name/SSID on the access point from the manufacturers default? If not, please do so. -- Show quoteHide quoteJerry Peterson Windows Network Services - Wireless This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights. "trippwwf" <tripp***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:7AC3C41C-E9A6-4826-9340-63B4F709A95F@microsoft.com... > Bump > > "trippwwf" wrote: > >> Hello, >> >> I live in a townhome and I can "sense" 4 or 5 wireless networks. Since I >> can only run on Channel 6 due to netgear 108's settings, my network seems >> to >> be interfered by a nearby one. >> >> Is there a way that I can make windows ONLY detect my network. >> >> Thanks, >> >> Alan Hello,
Thanks for the help. I am a network administrator so all the defaults have been changed. (I cant say the same for my neighbors though) I am pretty sure it is their networks causing problems because as soon as I change the setting to say anything but "Autodetect 108" and then change the channel to anything but 6, my signal on this computer goes from very low to very high. This consistently happens as soon as the channel is changed. Unfortunatly, on Netgears 108 wireless router, you can only use channel 6 when you have it set to "Auto 108". If all devices in my house were 108, then I would use that and then change the channel. Unfortunatly, they arent, so I must use the auto 108. Have any other possible solutions? Thanks, Alan Show quoteHide quote "Jerry Peterson[MSFT]" wrote: > Windows wireless zero configuration will only connect to a network in your > preferred list. If your wireless adapter is within range of a number of > wireless networks, there really isn't much that you can do to prevent them > from using channel 6. However, just becuase your wireless adapter can see > another network, it does not mean that that network is operating on the same > channel or even causing interference. A surprising number of wireless > devices can coexist on the same channel without issue. The 802.11 wireless > protocol has measures to ensure a quality experience when multiple devices > are within radio range. Cordless phones do not make use of this protocol > though and this leads us to... > > The greatest and most common sources of interference on the 802.11b and > 802.11g spectrum are 2.4ghz cordless phones and counter-top microwave ovens. > Unfortunately, it may prove difficult to convince your neighbors to remove > those appliances or dictate their usage patterns. > > What makes you believe there is interferance on your network? > > Did you change the network name/SSID on the access point from the > manufacturers default? If not, please do so. > > -- > Jerry Peterson > Windows Network Services - Wireless > > This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights. > "trippwwf" <tripp***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > news:7AC3C41C-E9A6-4826-9340-63B4F709A95F@microsoft.com... > > Bump > > > > "trippwwf" wrote: > > > >> Hello, > >> > >> I live in a townhome and I can "sense" 4 or 5 wireless networks. Since I > >> can only run on Channel 6 due to netgear 108's settings, my network seems > >> to > >> be interfered by a nearby one. > >> > >> Is there a way that I can make windows ONLY detect my network. > >> > >> Thanks, > >> > >> Alan > > > What is happening that makes you believe there is interferrence? Does the
connection suddenly drop, or are downloads taking 10 minutes for one megabyte? Characterizing the problem will help me understand the scope. The other question in the back of my mind is specific to Netgear's proprietary 108 functionality. The 802.11g specification allows for transmission rates of up to 54mbs. To reach 108mbs, they would need to perform some trickery which is not standards compliant. Devices that do not support their proprietary standard could seriously impact your expected throughput. Simply adding a non-Netgear device could bump you back to 11mbs speeds in less than a heartbeat. Do you have any non-Netgear devices participating in the wireless network? Do you have any Netgear devices or drivers in use that are not "108" capable? Are you using any form of wireless security to prevent other tenants from using your network? -- Show quoteHide quoteJerry Peterson Windows Network Services - Wireless This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights. "trippwwf" <tripp***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:8BC0A8CC-4C68-4911-B1A4-522287BAFEC0@microsoft.com... > Hello, > > Thanks for the help. I am a network administrator so all the defaults > have > been changed. (I cant say the same for my neighbors though) > > I am pretty sure it is their networks causing problems because as soon as > I > change the setting to say anything but "Autodetect 108" and then change > the > channel to anything but 6, my signal on this computer goes from very low > to > very high. This consistently happens as soon as the channel is changed. > > Unfortunatly, on Netgears 108 wireless router, you can only use channel 6 > when you have it set to "Auto 108". If all devices in my house were 108, > then I would use that and then change the channel. Unfortunatly, they > arent, > so I must use the auto 108. > > Have any other possible solutions? > > Thanks, > > Alan > "Jerry Peterson[MSFT]" wrote: > >> Windows wireless zero configuration will only connect to a network in >> your >> preferred list. If your wireless adapter is within range of a number of >> wireless networks, there really isn't much that you can do to prevent >> them >> from using channel 6. However, just becuase your wireless adapter can >> see >> another network, it does not mean that that network is operating on the >> same >> channel or even causing interference. A surprising number of wireless >> devices can coexist on the same channel without issue. The 802.11 >> wireless >> protocol has measures to ensure a quality experience when multiple >> devices >> are within radio range. Cordless phones do not make use of this protocol >> though and this leads us to... >> >> The greatest and most common sources of interference on the 802.11b and >> 802.11g spectrum are 2.4ghz cordless phones and counter-top microwave >> ovens. >> Unfortunately, it may prove difficult to convince your neighbors to >> remove >> those appliances or dictate their usage patterns. >> >> What makes you believe there is interferance on your network? >> >> Did you change the network name/SSID on the access point from the >> manufacturers default? If not, please do so. >> >> -- >> Jerry Peterson >> Windows Network Services - Wireless >> >> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no >> rights. >> "trippwwf" <tripp***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message >> news:7AC3C41C-E9A6-4826-9340-63B4F709A95F@microsoft.com... >> > Bump >> > >> > "trippwwf" wrote: >> > >> >> Hello, >> >> >> >> I live in a townhome and I can "sense" 4 or 5 wireless networks. >> >> Since I >> >> can only run on Channel 6 due to netgear 108's settings, my network >> >> seems >> >> to >> >> be interfered by a nearby one. >> >> >> >> Is there a way that I can make windows ONLY detect my network. >> >> >> >> Thanks, >> >> >> >> Alan >> >> >> Hello again,
All devices are Netgear 108 compliant, except for a laptop that is rarely on / used. All netgear devices also have the latest firmware and drivers installed. Downloads arent too slow. I just cant get it to connect at anything above a low signal strength. There are no other forms of security on the network besides the SSID being turned off and the network being keyed with a crazy long password. Using the netstat -a cmd i see no rouge devices connected. The same goes for using Netgears "Attached Devices" screen. Thanks, Alan Show quoteHide quote "Jerry Peterson[MSFT]" wrote: > What is happening that makes you believe there is interferrence? Does the > connection suddenly drop, or are downloads taking 10 minutes for one > megabyte? Characterizing the problem will help me understand the scope. > > The other question in the back of my mind is specific to Netgear's > proprietary 108 functionality. The 802.11g specification allows for > transmission rates of up to 54mbs. To reach 108mbs, they would need to > perform some trickery which is not standards compliant. Devices that do not > support their proprietary standard could seriously impact your expected > throughput. Simply adding a non-Netgear device could bump you back to 11mbs > speeds in less than a heartbeat. Do you have any non-Netgear devices > participating in the wireless network? Do you have any Netgear devices or > drivers in use that are not "108" capable? Are you using any form of > wireless security to prevent other tenants from using your network? > > -- > Jerry Peterson > Windows Network Services - Wireless > > This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights. > "trippwwf" <tripp***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > news:8BC0A8CC-4C68-4911-B1A4-522287BAFEC0@microsoft.com... > > Hello, > > > > Thanks for the help. I am a network administrator so all the defaults > > have > > been changed. (I cant say the same for my neighbors though) > > > > I am pretty sure it is their networks causing problems because as soon as > > I > > change the setting to say anything but "Autodetect 108" and then change > > the > > channel to anything but 6, my signal on this computer goes from very low > > to > > very high. This consistently happens as soon as the channel is changed. > > > > Unfortunatly, on Netgears 108 wireless router, you can only use channel 6 > > when you have it set to "Auto 108". If all devices in my house were 108, > > then I would use that and then change the channel. Unfortunatly, they > > arent, > > so I must use the auto 108. > > > > Have any other possible solutions? > > > > Thanks, > > > > Alan > > "Jerry Peterson[MSFT]" wrote: > > > >> Windows wireless zero configuration will only connect to a network in > >> your > >> preferred list. If your wireless adapter is within range of a number of > >> wireless networks, there really isn't much that you can do to prevent > >> them > >> from using channel 6. However, just becuase your wireless adapter can > >> see > >> another network, it does not mean that that network is operating on the > >> same > >> channel or even causing interference. A surprising number of wireless > >> devices can coexist on the same channel without issue. The 802.11 > >> wireless > >> protocol has measures to ensure a quality experience when multiple > >> devices > >> are within radio range. Cordless phones do not make use of this protocol > >> though and this leads us to... > >> > >> The greatest and most common sources of interference on the 802.11b and > >> 802.11g spectrum are 2.4ghz cordless phones and counter-top microwave > >> ovens. > >> Unfortunately, it may prove difficult to convince your neighbors to > >> remove > >> those appliances or dictate their usage patterns. > >> > >> What makes you believe there is interferance on your network? > >> > >> Did you change the network name/SSID on the access point from the > >> manufacturers default? If not, please do so. > >> > >> -- > >> Jerry Peterson > >> Windows Network Services - Wireless > >> > >> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no > >> rights. > >> "trippwwf" <tripp***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > >> news:7AC3C41C-E9A6-4826-9340-63B4F709A95F@microsoft.com... > >> > Bump > >> > > >> > "trippwwf" wrote: > >> > > >> >> Hello, > >> >> > >> >> I live in a townhome and I can "sense" 4 or 5 wireless networks. > >> >> Since I > >> >> can only run on Channel 6 due to netgear 108's settings, my network > >> >> seems > >> >> to > >> >> be interfered by a nearby one. > >> >> > >> >> Is there a way that I can make windows ONLY detect my network. > >> >> > >> >> Thanks, > >> >> > >> >> Alan > >> > >> > >> > > > Another possiblity is radio range. The 802.11g protocol has a provision to
increase signal reliability. As signal strength drops, the devices will negotiate a slower connection speed. At the edge of radio range, your connection speed will typically be 1-2mbs. You can test to see if this is the behavior by moving a wireless client to within a few feet of the access point and noting the connection speed. -- Show quoteHide quoteJerry Peterson Windows Network Services - Wireless This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights. "trippwwf" <tripp***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:12D77C33-9542-4C67-A0D4-9B5EF956C437@microsoft.com... > Hello again, > > All devices are Netgear 108 compliant, except for a laptop that is rarely > on > / used. All netgear devices also have the latest firmware and drivers > installed. Downloads arent too slow. I just cant get it to connect at > anything above a low signal strength. There are no other forms of > security > on the network besides the SSID being turned off and the network being > keyed > with a crazy long password. Using the netstat -a cmd i see no rouge > devices > connected. The same goes for using Netgears "Attached Devices" screen. > > Thanks, > > Alan > > "Jerry Peterson[MSFT]" wrote: > >> What is happening that makes you believe there is interferrence? Does >> the >> connection suddenly drop, or are downloads taking 10 minutes for one >> megabyte? Characterizing the problem will help me understand the scope. >> >> The other question in the back of my mind is specific to Netgear's >> proprietary 108 functionality. The 802.11g specification allows for >> transmission rates of up to 54mbs. To reach 108mbs, they would need to >> perform some trickery which is not standards compliant. Devices that do >> not >> support their proprietary standard could seriously impact your expected >> throughput. Simply adding a non-Netgear device could bump you back to >> 11mbs >> speeds in less than a heartbeat. Do you have any non-Netgear devices >> participating in the wireless network? Do you have any Netgear devices >> or >> drivers in use that are not "108" capable? Are you using any form of >> wireless security to prevent other tenants from using your network? >> >> -- >> Jerry Peterson >> Windows Network Services - Wireless >> >> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no >> rights. >> "trippwwf" <tripp***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message >> news:8BC0A8CC-4C68-4911-B1A4-522287BAFEC0@microsoft.com... >> > Hello, >> > >> > Thanks for the help. I am a network administrator so all the defaults >> > have >> > been changed. (I cant say the same for my neighbors though) >> > >> > I am pretty sure it is their networks causing problems because as soon >> > as >> > I >> > change the setting to say anything but "Autodetect 108" and then change >> > the >> > channel to anything but 6, my signal on this computer goes from very >> > low >> > to >> > very high. This consistently happens as soon as the channel is >> > changed. >> > >> > Unfortunatly, on Netgears 108 wireless router, you can only use channel >> > 6 >> > when you have it set to "Auto 108". If all devices in my house were >> > 108, >> > then I would use that and then change the channel. Unfortunatly, they >> > arent, >> > so I must use the auto 108. >> > >> > Have any other possible solutions? >> > >> > Thanks, >> > >> > Alan >> > "Jerry Peterson[MSFT]" wrote: >> > >> >> Windows wireless zero configuration will only connect to a network in >> >> your >> >> preferred list. If your wireless adapter is within range of a number >> >> of >> >> wireless networks, there really isn't much that you can do to prevent >> >> them >> >> from using channel 6. However, just becuase your wireless adapter can >> >> see >> >> another network, it does not mean that that network is operating on >> >> the >> >> same >> >> channel or even causing interference. A surprising number of wireless >> >> devices can coexist on the same channel without issue. The 802.11 >> >> wireless >> >> protocol has measures to ensure a quality experience when multiple >> >> devices >> >> are within radio range. Cordless phones do not make use of this >> >> protocol >> >> though and this leads us to... >> >> >> >> The greatest and most common sources of interference on the 802.11b >> >> and >> >> 802.11g spectrum are 2.4ghz cordless phones and counter-top microwave >> >> ovens. >> >> Unfortunately, it may prove difficult to convince your neighbors to >> >> remove >> >> those appliances or dictate their usage patterns. >> >> >> >> What makes you believe there is interferance on your network? >> >> >> >> Did you change the network name/SSID on the access point from the >> >> manufacturers default? If not, please do so. >> >> >> >> -- >> >> Jerry Peterson >> >> Windows Network Services - Wireless >> >> >> >> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no >> >> rights. >> >> "trippwwf" <tripp***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message >> >> news:7AC3C41C-E9A6-4826-9340-63B4F709A95F@microsoft.com... >> >> > Bump >> >> > >> >> > "trippwwf" wrote: >> >> > >> >> >> Hello, >> >> >> >> >> >> I live in a townhome and I can "sense" 4 or 5 wireless networks. >> >> >> Since I >> >> >> can only run on Channel 6 due to netgear 108's settings, my network >> >> >> seems >> >> >> to >> >> >> be interfered by a nearby one. >> >> >> >> >> >> Is there a way that I can make windows ONLY detect my network. >> >> >> >> >> >> Thanks, >> >> >> >> >> >> Alan >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
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